It's going to get done. Yes, some will get scewed... However it will get done. Its the federal, state and local baby that has too much attention.
The screwing of others happens everywhere. In the US we are just better at conceiling it and making it sound like a win for everyone.
Ringing endorsement there Mr. Cynic. You would expect a lawyer to stand up for the rule of law.I am more hopeful for the future of the Mexican people myself.
So all this makes you happy? Now you want to compare this to our corrupt government. And all you have to say is somebody is going to get screwed it will get built!!!
Its nothing new to see the wealthy take advantage of the less financially fortunate. Of course it's horrible. But it's been going on for a long time on this side of the world.... Just ask the native Americans. The letter of the law is often a moving target with subjective interpretation in many cases. Don't forget that all it takes is an innocent mistake for someone to get screwed (ex. someone in charge makes an error on a contract that affects the workers at the bottom of the ladder)... Happens all the time and yes it is horrible. It's the way the law has worked for centuries (or at least been abused in a variety of ways).
I've lived and worked in Nogales for over ten years now and I'm very amused by and sense of indignity/shock/outrage/disbelief over any kind of 'irregularities' that might be going on in a public works project in Mexico. Ask ANY Mexican about what really happens when the gov't builds a bridge or a road or whatever. Its commonplace on EVERY project that happens. The whole cruise ship/ breakwater/ jetty might be a terrible idea, but the fact thats its execution is riddled with corruption/delays/confusion should not be shocking to anyone with a familiarity with Mexico.
Its nothing new to see the wealthy take advantage of the less financially fortunate. Of course it's horrible. But it's been going on for a long time on this side of the world.... Just ask the native Americans. The letter of the law is often a moving target with subjective interpretation in many cases. Don't forget that all it takes is an innocent mistake for someone to get screwed (ex. someone in charge makes an error on a contract that affects the workers at the bottom of the ladder)... Happens all the time and yes it is horrible. It's the way the law has worked for centuries (or at least been abused in a variety of ways).
A grade school teacher was asking students what their parents did for a living. "Tim, you be first," she said. "What does your mother do all day?"
Tim stood up and proudly said, "She's a doctor."
"That's wonderful. How about you, Amie?"
Amie shyly stood up, scuffed her feet and said, "My father is a mailman."
"Thank you, Amie," said the teacher. "What about your father, Billy?" Billy proudly stood up and announced, "My daddy plays piano in a whorehouse."
The teacher was aghast and promptly changed the subject to geography. Later that day she went to Billy's house and rang the bell. Billy's father answered the door. The teacher explained what his son had said and demanded an explanation.
Billy's father said, "I'm actually an attorney. How can I explain a thing like that to a seven-year-old?
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"Until the very end" come domperos Puerto Penasco, Sonora to demand the payment for 4 months demand for his work on the construction of the Home Port, by Granvision (GRAVI), construction property "entrepreneur" Luis Cano.
Puerto Penasco, Sonora -. "Until the very end" domperos reach Puerto Penasco, Sonora to demand payment for 4 months demand for his work on the construction of the Home Port, by Granvision (GRAVI), property construction "entrepreneur" Luis Cano, still remembered in the BCS left unfinished development in La Paz Mogote.
The work of Home Port, by the Sonoran Alfredo Vergara who in turn responds to the promoter paceño Paraiso del Mar development, is indebted to the neck with construction workers, especially with domperos, who say bankruptcy.
Mr. Anselmo Estrada, dompero said, "we asked is we pay what we must, and once this happens we do not know if we can keep working, do not want the work of the Home Port is gone, and if this happens, do not want to throw blame us because we are the most affected and least guilty because we are completely bankrupt, we already four months without receiving any payment for our work. "
Mr. Anselmo Estrada, dompero said, "we asked is we pay what we must, and once this happens we do not know if we can keep working, do not want the work of the Home Port is gone, and if this happens, do not want to throw blame us because we are the most affected and least guilty because we are completely bankrupt, we already four months without receiving any payment for our work. "
He also said, "Most of us have credit cards to the top, we had to pawn some personal belongings, we are practically at the street;we have to be about a 35,000 meters together. So far they have not told us anything we do not know if they are going to pay, but we will continue until we solve this problem, because, well, we have to go, in the city there are no jobs, so which will continue our protest, "he said.
On the other hand, said "everything you have told us Alfredo Vergara is a lie, he project owner is believed, because he said he is bringing people out, arguing that is helping, we know that he is giving them jobs here where we are starving, he is helping people who bring cars in 2014 to a place where our cars have over 20 years of useful life, we maintain as we can, but how is it that people have a chance economic this working? ".
No longer willing to believe more lies and your employer Alfredo Vergara Luis Cano, domperos, as Mr Luis Escobedo ask only that "those responsible for the work to hurry to get our problem, because we have almost four months without payment, we need the work, and if you follow the construction of the Home Port, ask fair rates ", knowing that, it appears that the" Developer "and laid their hands on the juicy advance but not allocated to pay employees or suppliers.
Finally, the construction worker said "these days and if we do not resolve, we will continue our sit-in until we solve the problem;also, if it becomes necessary, we will go to the streets to press Peñasco to get paid. "
"All of us are heavily indebted, for example, I owe to local trade, I have diesel, spare parts, tires ... have not taken the livelihood of our homes, and we are almost out of work, so we will continue on fighting" emphasized the worker who sees his economic stability and their livelihood is lost in a black hole Luis Cano opened, as it did when it began to build his "paradise" in the South Californian capital.
Jerry they do not care who gets hurt remember they said it will get built or not let them do their job. Well their is no job for the truckers now.
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Hillboy, it blows my mind that the boosters of this project just say "oh well that is how the game is played in Mexico" when the fact of the matter is a group of bad actors are running this thing.It is pure rascim to put all Mexicans in the "crook"category.Look at the principals past history and if you give a damn about the Sea of Cortez you would want them replaced.The mangrove distruction at the La Paz project is sickening.
Pound your chest, pound your chest, pound your chest........at the end of the day it will be built, or it will not be built. Anything you have to say about it will not change the out come so continue to beat your chest your opinions do NOT matter. There is obviously some problems in upper management, that is not a problem exclusive to Peñasco or Mexico. It is a problem worldwide. It is NOT your problem. You are simply an observer. You, thinking you have the answers is laughable, regardless of who you are ( unless you have a financial stake in this).
It is supposed to be a home port with cruises originating from RP.
Check back in a couple of years, we should know where this project stands and a possible completion date. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
I saw a bunch of workers sitting around at 12pm with food in their hand. They proceeded to put it in their mouth for some time. I don't know what is going on but no work was taken place during this 1 hour period.
I saw a bunch of workers sitting around at 12pm with food in their hand. They proceeded to put it in their mouth for some time. I don't know what is going on but no work was taken place during this 1 hour period.
After the trucks dump rock, they go somewhere for a long time and I am not sure what they are doing but they eventually came back and dumped rock again.....so strange! It's like one moment it's under construction, but the next moment not....then it is again...I am so confused.
Glad truckers are getting paid again.One of our forum members with judgements against him for not paying sub contractors in the states should learn from this lesson and pay up.
After the trucks dump rock, they go somewhere for a long time and I am not sure what they are doing but they eventually came back and dumped rock again.....so strange! It's like one moment it's under construction, but the next moment not....then it is again...I am so confused.
Can someone please tell me that WE CALLED THIS ?! Where is Mike Head in the Sand? Eric? Haven't heard from them lately.
Can someone please tell me that WE CALLED THIS ?! Where is Mike Head in the Sand? Eric? Haven't heard from them lately.
Joe, hopefully these are our Puerto Penasco local truckers back to work and not outsiders.If they are strikebreakers would be very sad....always hated scabs myself
Big rocks are missing......... how does one fix that?
In an interview held much earlier with Javier Tapia Camou, State Coordinator for the Tourism Promotion Commission, he indicated there will be arduous work on the project in order to recover time lost due to, first, awaiting explosive permits to get rock from Cerro Prieto, as well as reorganization of work in order to pull out the larger rocks required by the project. Goals still remain to complete the project by late 2015.
I picture the poor drivers with crowbars and Hooka diving setups from Harbor Freight giving it a try.They must have spotted something and went to plan b.....bigger rocks from Herradurra where they have the equipment to load them....the superintendent at the mine is good guy that stays at santo tomas on occasion...
From what I read the truckers had been blocking the trucks from the horseshoe mine for over 30 days, I guess they pissed off the syndicate and they needed to put these big boulders in place so the project could move forward.
Sucking up to the powers that be in that crooked little port must get exhausting.They knew the arrest was illegal but still did it to hammer the transportation workers.....seems like you are on the wrong side being a trucker of sorts.
Sucking up to the powers that be in that crooked little port must get exhausting.They knew the arrest was illegal but still did it to hammer the transportation workers.....seems like you are on the wrong side being a trucker of sorts.
Amazing Jerry, A Puerto of approx 55 thousand people...a huge investment project, (Government involved project) about a thousand moving pieces , and here you are sitting on the sideline, no stake in the game, no reason to complain, and yet you do, simply hoping for a fail for some reason......I don't get it.
Sucking up to the powers ----- whatever dude. I do a strong business here with locals and foreigners alike. I don't suck up.....I follow the rules, pay my taxes, deposit and withdraw from Mexican Banks, I don't put myself above those that make the rules, I don't try to find a way to do it "my way" I follow them and if they change I follow them..I am a guest here, Yes I am a permanent resident, but I am a guest.
The port moves forward, it will be finished......or it won't....but at the end of the day, it has nothing to do with you or your opinions.
Russ all we want to hear is that you feel for the little guy that is getting screwed you defend everything else and some of it I commend you for that. But come on defend the little guy if you are not afraid. You are a great ambassador for mexico I think that is good But you have a lot at sake in the game.
Russ all we want to hear is that you feel for the little guy that is getting screwed you defend everything else and some of it I commend you for that. But come on defend the little guy if you are not afraid. You are a great ambassador for mexico I think that is good But you have a lot at sake in the game.
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Number one, I don't like sake......
Number 2, I do not have in front of me any clear news of what is going on out there. I am all for the little guy, the medium guy and the big guy.
I want to see the port completed. My only financial stake in it is the completion of it.
I do not care nor am I asked to care about the day to day goings on out there.
One mans strike and protest is another mans opportunity.
I am sure wrong is being committed on both sides of this conflict.
I don't know who is right, or who is wrong.
If the little guy is being maligned by the big guy it may go down in history as one of the least examples of it.
This world is hideous with corruption and the little guy always gets it....is it right? No of course not, will we change it with this project in Peñasco? No of course not.
At the end of the day when you have an opinion on this project , how you would do it better, how you would protect the little guys, how you would complete it so that it was fair to everyone (including yourself) you are just beating your chest.
OK some time can't spell dog. All I said was that you never champion the little guy. We all as homeowners have a stake in this project but mine is not for financial gain.
I don't know if any of us know what's going on, and I hope workers who deserved to be paid were paid. Deserved is the key word. But I too want to see the port to completion- we hope to take a cruise of the Sea of Cortez!
OK some time can't spell dog. All I said was that you never champion the little guy. We all as homeowners have a stake in this project but mine is not for financial gain.
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So that means I am always for the big guy? I guess you need to know me better, that's ok it's your opinion
It seems to me that in Mexico, if there is a chance to take advantage of a situation, people generally take the advantage. My job is to not let that happen. I finally found a group of great workers that give me honest work. I am still seen as a rich gringo. I do treat them with the respect they deserve and pay a fair wage.
F******ck!!! Total bummer. So many memories, all the way back to the early 90's. God I wish I could go back to then. Heading down in a couple weeks. Been out of state for a few years, sure I'm gonna be shocked a little.
Any news today???? Photos??? I heard a rumor that they were loading rocks and hauling them away from the pier !! Also heard that Russ is stealing rocks for his rock garden at his house. Also heard that the blasting stopped because they discovered gold and want to mine it. Can anyone confirm any of this????
F******ck!!! Total bummer. So many memories, all the way back to the early 90's. God I wish I could go back to then. Heading down in a couple weeks. Been out of state for a few years, sure I'm gonna be shocked a little.
Thanks for the update.
I found out you can't 3 weeks ago, but you can still get on SB via the Reef RV park.
Sadly, it will cost you $20 to rent an RV spot, good for 24 hours. We ended up doing that after my wife was complaining about it.
If you time it right you can get 2 days on the beach for the 24 hr.
time period. So it works out to $10 per visit vs the $8 for the public access it was last year.
Does anyone know if the Mi Playa beach is still a mess?
Any news today???? Photos??? I heard a rumor that they were loading rocks and hauling them away from the pier !! Also heard that Russ is stealing rocks for his rock garden at his house. Also heard that the blasting stopped because they discovered gold and want to mine it. Can anyone confirm any of this????
I believe it all to be true. I heard they are moving the Jetty down near the marina because the water is deeper
Clear as mud but bringing the State Police in really pissed everyone off
"Puerto Peñasco, Sonora.-in an interview local businessman Rubén González Aguayo, spoke about the conflict that exists in the Home Port, where domperos of the town were evicted by the PEI and said "because authorities will not against its leader and if they apply the law, because the domperos move based on what they told their ringleaderwhich must have faced the situation there is its leader.
"I know that there are unions and that within them there is a representative, Mr. Everardo Fimbres Ocaña, he has to defend the causes because it is representative and has to cope with this situation, there are anomalies like that stops the money, apparently the company if it is paying to the Union and poor of the domperos that if they are being attacked in this way"I think rather to which have to apply justice is to the Union representative, somehow he has to face the music"said.
"Is not okay to use money from the efforts of the people to cover other things, is how Governments, when there are labeled moneys are to apply, they apply the law, it is my friend Mr. Fimbres, but if it is acting with malice aforethought and advantage, I think that he must face the consequences" said.
Also, said "I agree that stoppages may exist, with respect also, because works that will bring benefit to our people have to move forward, the allegations must be done outside the compound where is operating, since it is a project that is the future of rock, and must be respected, the domperos must have his plea with its leader"which is Mr. Fimbres".
In the same way, said "as an entrepreneur I can say that I am not agree as the domperos were treated, they deserve respect, regardless if there was a strike, because we must remember that there are families that are of through, they feel hit because if they are two months that do not pay them, they will obviously look to make a pressure".
"I respect very much the carriers, they are friends and it did not appear the proceed was applied against them;" I was two weeks ago talking with them, they told me that they had not paid them, that they were standing guard, comment them that it was worthy to be in place, however, now more evil, based on law is that it seems that things are violating it personally, seems me grotesque as they were evicted from the place, because they are civilized and workers; Apart still put them in jail and have to pay 5 thousand dollars, that is extremely grotesque, I am very sorry that this happens to us to us"he said.
On the other hand, spoke about the statements made by Alfredo Vergara Álvarez, in the sense that "the tender comes bad" and that he doesn't understand because is continuous with a work as well, to which Gonzalez Aguayo, replied "I regret these comments of Mr Vergara, I think the affected is mainly rock, I do not agree that be politicized, do not think that the Governor Guillermo Padrés Elijah is wrong already that project the work, suffered it and it is still working; "If Mr. Vergara has a personal opinion should not speak to the thousand winds, it should fix it at the table of negotiations that occur in the State, because with reviews makes a very gray atmosphere, creates uncertainty, maybe he is doing because he wants other favorable negotiations make only for it".
The Company says the union was paid 750000 pesos! Everyone not doing actual physical work seems to be on the take...
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora-suede non-payment from three months ago, specifically last February 5, carriers of stone materials, domperos, they decided to stop the work of the Home Port a month ago and remain in permanent unemployment, however, tempers rose tone once it was notified to them by Alfredo Vergara Álvarez, who is the holder of the contract for the projectthat they had to let trucks with stones taken from the mine La Herradura, which generated angered workers, who even claimed that they will come out onto the streets of the city to express their dissatisfaction.
In this sense, José Luis López, carrier, said "the only demand that we are doing is to pay us worked, we are not asking for a given weight, since Feb. 5 they have not paid us agreed, there are many affected families, because all of us are not leading the sustenance to our houses, they handled us there are problems in the Consortium", that the Government does not release the money, those are freight and complications relating to them, to us that pay us what is fair, because they want to pay a fee that does not get or to pay for fuel, less the driver".
"We are going to fight here until we pay, work here, here we have to come to pay" emphasized.
On the other hand, said "we hear that Mr Vergara said that the Union 750 thousand pesos for the advance for us, was given which is new, we didn't, we were never informed us that this advancement, which is managed by Carlos Guerrero and Everardo had been Fimbres Ocaña, making it particularly, Fimbres we must clarify this situation".
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Any news today???? Photos??? I heard a rumor that they were loading rocks and hauling them away from the pier !! Also heard that Russ is stealing rocks for his rock garden at his house. Also heard that the blasting stopped because they discovered gold and want to mine it. Can anyone confirm any of this????
And the rock garden looks so cool now! Naomi loves it!
I picture the poor drivers with crowbars and Hooka diving setups from Harbor Freight giving it a try.They must have spotted something and went to plan b.....bigger rocks from Herradurra where they have the equipment to load them....the superintendent at the mine is good guy that stays at santo tomas on occasion...
Have you seen the size of these trucks Jerry, hold 5 times the load of the previous trucks, would not be feasible for the small trucks to run out to the mine.
Have you seen the size of these trucks Jerry, hold 5 times the load of the previous trucks, would not be feasible for the small trucks to run out to the mine.
I think obviously there is an underlying screw up that they are trying to deal without it becoming public knowledge.The flack that wrote the rp360 story has an evolving story line he is peddling.....poorly
So the sub-contractor kept both his and the truckers factura and collected on both, the sub did get payed but when the forensic act. ran the numbers they caught it, just what i heard at guau gaua's, Maybe i should stay out of there...
Translation from Defrente editor ... "VARIOUS COMMENTS:.Where seems to be already thundered the bomb was in the construction of the breakwater of Homeport, since for several days, which days, weeks, said work was paralyzed by domperos bringing in material, the fact is that they claimed failure to pay, but there was another background in the subject, such as hauling material from the La Herradura mine by special gondolas, Case led the Friday morning the bomb to be evicted by the police state half a dozen drivers who were there stationed Dompe, same blocking the entrance to the work, being arrested, and while out on bail, no longer a fight with justice for them, in a tangle of squabbling featuring the leader of the CTM Everardo Fimbres, who seems to walk nosy, and they said they had no personality to represent domperos, and a representative of one of the companies contracted name Alfredo Vergara, the fact is that go dancing several million weights and is the economic interest (that novelty!) which caused this mess, the fact is that in this situation jeopardized the project, it was born weak, as there knowledgeable people that theme that ensures the homeport will end up in a marina for yachts and not a cruise departure as announced .
"the fact is that in this situation jeopardized the project, it was born weak, as there knowledgeable people that theme that ensures the homeport will end up in a marina for yachts and not a cruise departure as announced ". .....
Did you ever wake up in the morning and read something that just made you happy?
"the fact is that in this situation jeopardized the project, it was born weak, as there knowledgeable people that theme that ensures the homeport will end up in a marina for yachts and not a cruise departure as announced ". .....
Did you ever wake up in the morning and read something that just made you happy?
the homeport will end up in a marina for yachts and not a cruise departure as announced "
Jerry, Got a good visual & a laugh out of this! A "marina" full of anchored yachts, a chubasco comes in the night & by morning the rock jetty is strewn with yachts! Maybe not such a good idea...
Let us think a cast in place block 3x4x6 ft = 2.66 cy of concrete concrete in the states cost $90.00 per cy so one block will cost $ 240.00 per block just for the concrete. It ain't going to happen
"The U.S. EPA has concluded that a single cruise ship will emit the same amount of sulfur dioxide as 13,100,000 (million) cars and as much soot as over 1,000,000 (million) cars."
and Ferry Air Emissions Debate: U.K. Shipping Companies Deceive the Public Deadly Cruise and Ferry Air Emissions Debate: U.K. Shipping Companies Deceive the Public
Posted on June 19, 2014 by Jim Walker
Bunker Fuel - Nasty Tar Sludge! which explains how bunker fuel - which is
a tar-like substance left as the residue of the refinery process - is the nastiest and most toxic fuel on planet earth. It is unconscionable to burn it.
But bunker fuel is the cornerstone of the shipping industry. Cruise and ferry companies burn it all of the time. Why? Because it is dirt cheap and the shipping industry profit handsomely by using it.
The shipping executives are continuing to try and delay the implementation of the new health regulations. We have been writing about the need for new regulations ever since I started this blog five years ago.
Over the years, the cruise industry has done just about everything possible to avoid regulation and continue to burn high sulfur fuel. In the U.S., the industry sued the Environmental Protection Agency to keep burning dirty fuel. It has initiated scare tactics saying that jobs in the maritime sector will be lost and passengers will face astronomical fares.
heard some stuff from guys at the Az Sonora meeting in Nogales
the boulder size thing is a huge screwup......they are basically papering over it and hoping for the best.Most likely it will work.
the excuses listed for lack of progress are pretty much talking points created by flacks to hide the other real problem..out of control graft by state officials that no longer have a easy access to national checkbook after PRI took power. They see the writing on the wall and are trying to make their nut before getting voted out. Anyone considering any bigger business deals might want to wait till the election....the Mordida will decrease dramatically.
many do not think cruise ships will every have a successful run here but backed the project for the construction dollars.They even hope it fails but not till it is finished.It will then berth small adventure sized ecotourism ships and multiday fishing charters. Sounds good to me!
they have spent 14% of the money and laid a questionable base for the next phase.The Feds are investigating the governors office for 60 million Federal targeted dollars that seem to have vanished..it will be quite the year....
You know those rocks that were blown to smithereens at Black Mtn from the first blast? We were told that they intend to use those small pieces of rock mixed with concrete to make those boulders.
they have spent 14% of the money and laid a questionable base for the next phase.The Feds are investigating the governors office for 60 million Federal targeted dollars that seem to have vanished..it will be quite the year....
The Company says the union was paid 750000 pesos! Everyone not doing actual physical work seems to be on the take...
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora-suede non-payment from three months ago, specifically last February 5, carriers of stone materials, domperos, they decided to stop the work of the Home Port a month ago and remain in permanent unemployment, however, tempers rose tone once it was notified to them by Alfredo Vergara Álvarez, who is the holder of the contract for the projectthat they had to let trucks with stones taken from the mine La Herradura, which generated angered workers, who even claimed that they will come out onto the streets of the city to express their dissatisfaction.
In this sense, José Luis López, carrier, said "the only demand that we are doing is to pay us worked, we are not asking for a given weight, since Feb. 5 they have not paid us agreed, there are many affected families, because all of us are not leading the sustenance to our houses, they handled us there are problems in the Consortium", that the Government does not release the money, those are freight and complications relating to them, to us that pay us what is fair, because they want to pay a fee that does not get or to pay for fuel, less the driver".
"We are going to fight here until we pay, work here, here we have to come to pay" emphasized.
On the other hand, said "we hear that Mr Vergara said that the Union 750 thousand pesos for the advance for us, was given which is new, we didn't, we were never informed us that this advancement, which is managed by Carlos Guerrero and Everardo had been Fimbres Ocaña, making it particularly, Fimbres we must clarify this situation".
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Not so far fetched, Jerry. Ever come into the cruise ship port at Mazatlan? I've been in and out a few times fishing. The breakwater is made of giant, well for lack of a better description, "concrete jacks," shaped like the same jacks kids play with. They are stacked willy-nilly and seem to interlock together to form the breakwater, with an entrance and channel for the cruise ships to enter/depart. Thought it was kind of odd the first time I saw it, but seems to be effective. Had to scrounge for a pic, but they look like this:
Not so far fetched, Jerry. Ever come into the cruise ship port at Mazatlan? I've been in and out a few times fishing. The breakwater is made of giant, well for lack of a better description, "concrete jacks," shaped like the same jacks kids play with. They are stacked willy-nilly and seem to interlock together to form the breakwater, with an entrance and channel for the cruise ships to enter/depart. Thought it was kind of odd the first time I saw it, but seems to be effective. Had to scrounge for a pic, but they look like this:
There has to be a more attractive way to build interlocking blocks for a breakwater. Great idea, just ugly IMO.
Well at least that project appears to have a cruise line funding it. Much better than this "If you build it, they will come" plan going on in RP. I mean, I doubt the major cruise lines are lining up waiting for this jetty to be completed.
Well at least that project appears to have a cruise line funding it. Much better than this "If you build it, they will come" plan going on in RP. I mean, I doubt the major cruise lines are lining up waiting for this jetty to be completed.
Puerto Penasco, Sonora -. Regarding statements by Javier Tapia Camou, Coordinator of the Commission for the Promotion of Tourism in the state (COFETUR), related to the work of the Home Port, where he literally says that "we are working on construction of the main breakwater which already has an advance 100 meters offshore, generating 300 direct jobs and 600 indirect "Mr. Gurrola Rosario Navarro, representative of local carriers, said" until now I have not been reflected direct jobs to that Penasco is announcing Javier Tapia Camou Mr ".
"I do not see one reflected, do not know where those jobs are, if he comes and explains and shows us where those jobs are, until then we will believe, for now I can say that such employment is not mentioning here in Peñasco exist, "he said.
He emphasized "in indirect employment was not mentioned also reflected at all, or workshops, or business, do not exist; They are undermining our survival and our families, we can say that the money allocated for the work that was supposed to make a good economic benefit where is it?, do not see it anywhere. "
Moreover, Gurrola Navarro spoke about the eviction and arrest of domperos by the investigating State Police and said "I saw it coming an action of this kind by the government, I think it all originated in the State Government, because there are resources flowing to this work, however, must have been given because the companions were claiming something right, they were paid what they were owed for work already performed; I have understood that they were partially paid, not as promised, they made additional discounts, money came to him very mop the end. "
"In other action was endorsed by the government, we have information that were primarily Javier Tapia Camou and Governor Guillermo Padres Elias, they used the police to suppress the domperos Peñasco not to continue making a claim that was fair ; also, the local authority defended carriers when must've done "said.
After a few Blah Blah blah paragraphs on cruise business in general the writer just gives up on spinning the quarry issue.They have no answer to the rock problem.
Gary, we watched the World Cup finals at Wrecked. There is nothing going on at the pier. entrance and scale locked up with a watchman sweltering in a booth.
So the days of camping for $5 at the Reef are long gone? There is no access to that area anymore?
It'll certainly be different this time. We haven't been to Rocky Point for a couple years.
You can pay $20 to rent a space at the Reef RV park to have access to Sandy Beach, did that last trip down and used it 2 days since it was covered under the 24 hour
limit of the parking pass.
Gary, we watched the World Cup finals at Wrecked. There is nothing going on at the pier. entrance and scale locked up with a watchman sweltering in a booth.
