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Puerto Penasco Home Port

Started by El Gato · Jan 7, 2014 · 848 replies
Terry C
HILL BOY, just copy the picture you have open and paste in on here.
Pinky
It has been all over the radio (in Spanish) that the drivers MAY get paid next week. If you ask the workers directly, they confirm they have not been paid and that it is the reason for lack of progress on the home port.
mis2810
Trucks parked all day today. What happened to the millions of pesos that were approved? Any guess as to whose pocket are they in??????
Roberto
I asked for some of those pesos but did not get any:(:(:(:(
playaperro
I saw Lagrimas walking into banamex yesterday with a big smile on his face!
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
I saw Lagrimas walking into banamex yesterday with a big smile on his face!

I had a smile walking in,
playaperro said:
I saw Lagrimas walking into banamex yesterday with a big smile on his face!
ben21
Monthly cruise ship norovirus outbreak:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/us/california-cruise-ship-norovirus/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
dry heat
ben21 said:

Thanks for the Puerto Penasco Home Port update
jerry
dry heat said:
Thanks for the Puerto Penasco Home Port update

Well when the ships start saling passengers might want to have this info available when the PV real estate scammers meet them at the dock http://www.insidethegate.com/gatehouse/2014/03/mexico-timeshare-fraud-news-march-29-2014/
ben21
dry heat said:
Thanks for the Puerto Penasco Home Port update


Ah, I forgot negativity isn't allowed when it comes to discussing the jetty. It's kind of weird to me because the renderings for this project are actually a bigger pipe dream than Boomerfest, which apparently is ok to be negative about.
jerry
In January I took this picture in Tasmania of a jetty ( or whatever the hell it is) to point out the lack of a protection pier going out to the North on our Homeport.When a northerner comes at full moon on a high tide I will be surprised if we do not have a problem.

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dry heat
ben21 said:
Ah, I forgot negativity isn't allowed when it comes to discussing the jetty. It's kind of weird to me because the renderings for this project are actually a bigger pipe dream than Boomerfest, which apparently is ok to be negative about.

I totally see how a virus that took place on a cruise ship from Los Angeles has everything to due with discussing the jetty in Puerto Penasco. Again, thanks for the update on "Puerto Penasco Home Port"
HILL BOY
Who the hell cares about a virus on a cruise ship at this point except for the people who are infected and I'm sorry for that. We are talking about a Jetty Home port in RP on Sandy Beach some love some hate it. Let it run its course we can't stop it I don't like it but still don't want it to fail. I do think it will be five years down the road if ever completed but in the meantime it will put money in pockets of the people of RP and give them hope for a better future.
jerry
HILL BOY said:
Who the hell cares about a virus on a cruise ship at this point except for the people who are infected and I'm sorry for that. We are talking about a Jetty Home port in RP on Sandy Beach some love some hate it. Let it run its course we can't stop it I don't like it but still don't want it to fail. I do think it will be five years down the road if ever completed but in the meantime it will put money in pockets of the people of RP and give them hope for a better future.

I hope they have to settle for smaller ships but one thing the Homeport does have going for it is the number of potential stops in a fairly small area.Hillboy,did you notice none of the cheerleaders even commented on the article exposing the construction companiys past shady dealings?
HILL BOY
jerry said:
I hope they have to settle for smaller ships but one thing the Homeport does have going for it is the number of potential stops in a fairly small area.Hillboy,did you notice none of the cheerleaders even commented on the article exposing the construction companiys past shady dealings?


They have their heads in the sand. I have a lot of experience with shady contractors and you can smell them a long way away and sorry this smells. Truck drivers not being paid no permits no blasting caps the guy who signs checks is not around!!! But on the bright side I did hear that they have been paid and work is started again again again. Happy Happy.
Derek
Hi again! I just wanted to say I have a lot of friends who travel or live in RP. I go often and can't believe the positive comments that everyone is now making about the town. I think it's always been a great place and hasn't changed much as far as crime etc. goes but the media made its dent on all of mexico. I'm just glad most of the US media is finally giving us a break.
ben21
HILL BOY said:
Who the hell cares about a virus on a cruise ship.


I brought it up because these are happening more often than ever and people are starting to have a very poor perception of the cruise industry. Doesn't exactly seem like a great time to build a cruise terminal, regardless of location.

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-cruise-industry-still-faces-sinking-public-perception-20140408,0,730249.story#axzz2yXgwWHrv

That being said, I do agree that any work is great for the locals (If they're actually being paid). I'm all for growth in RP, if it gets too crowded, we'll always have plenty of beaches down south. This just seems like the wrong way to go about it.
HILL BOY
ben21 said:
I brought it up because these are happening more often than ever and people are starting to have a very poor perception of the cruise industry. Doesn't exactly seem like a great time to build a cruise terminal, regardless of location.

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-cruise-industry-still-faces-sinking-public-perception-20140408,0,730249.story#axzz2yXgwWHrv

That being said, I do agree that any work is great for the locals (If they're actually being paid). I'm all for growth in RP, if it gets too crowded, we'll always have plenty of beaches down south. This just seems like the wrong way to go about it.


Believe me if they are not being paid work will stop as it has in the past they don't have big pockets to pay for fuel. I don't want to go south we will have to see how it all plays out. Ben you are right on on your comment timing is not good for a new cruise terminal.
Derek
What is the right time for progress in Mexico? I personally only risk what I'm willing to lose in Mexico. But thankfully for the people who try there is a chance for them.
Derek
I like the fact we can all speak our mind on this forum. With that said, I think some people need to realize there is always change going on and it will happen wether you like it or not! Look at the bright side:) I'm back.
jerry
http://www.dossierpolitico.com/vernoticias.php?artid=141849&relacion=dossierpolitico&categoria=1

The President is coming...better get this future train wreck moving!
HILL BOY
jerry said:
http://www.dossierpolitico.com/vernoticias.php?artid=141849&relacion=dossierpolitico&categoria=1

The President is coming...better get this future train wreck moving!



I heard the trucks are still not moving and now it is Semana Santa and their will be no work this week.
mermaid
All trucks are moving rocks today. They are even using the new scale.
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playaperro
Thanks for the update, better late than never is a familiar sayin' in Penasco, I saw the new scale, 20 cents a ton....
garyd
playaperro said:
Thanks for the update, better late than never is a familiar sayin' in Penasco, I saw the new scale, 20 cents a ton....

20 centavos or 20 pesos?
playaperro
Veinte Pesos!
StephenHeisler
image

Working today
HILL BOY
StephenHeisler said:
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Working today

StephenHeisler said:
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Working today


Glad to see they are back at it with Semana Santa going on that is a surprise. Has anyone heard any blasting? My friends in Cholla have not heard anything and they should have heard some blasting for them to continue. I know they were out of the big rocks three weeks ago so maybe they are using up the small rocks that were stockpiled @ the quarry. Stephen those are good pics. thanks
HILL BOY
garyd said:
20 centavos or 20 pesos?


Here we go 20 pesos per ton trucks haul 25 ton x 20 pesos = 500 pesos per load /12.5 =$40.00 per load. They have not done the math and they are getting ripped off fuel is costing them aprox. $20.00 per load and how many loads per day? last time we were at the Quarry their was 27 trucks sitting waiting to get loaded so they got 3 loads in this day, they made $120.00 less fuel $60.00. OK I will stop !!!!!
StephenHeisler
image

Work stopped when the party started...
playaperro
hp.jpg Stolen from the homeport F/B page.
artisticdiva
Is it just me or does this look like earth porn?
mis2810
artisticdiva said:
Is it just me or does this look like earth porn?


LOL!!! I just thought the same thing!!!!
Ladyjeeper
Friggin' hilarious!
tequilatodd
That's a great pic Perro. I wonder how far out that is and how much further they will go before they make the turn.
Just beyond the tip of the "land penis" :p......looks like shelf starts to drop off. I wonder how deep the water will get out there.
Ladyjeeper
Ha, I just spit water all over the keypad, Todd!
fasteddy
after they do the turn we could have the "before and after picture"
HILL BOY
artisticdiva said:
Is it just me or does this look like earth porn?


Now you are sick! but as I look at this pick you are right on
HILL BOY
tequilatodd said:
That's a great pic Perro. I wonder how far out that is and how much further they will go before they make the turn.
Just beyond the tip of the "land penis" :p......looks like shelf starts to drop off. I wonder how deep the water will get out there.


I heard 60 foot all the way down to the sperm reef.
HILL BOY
Ladyjeeper said:
Ha, I just spit water all over the keypad, Todd!


Now that is funny shit!
artisticdiva
LMAO! Hill Boy!
mis2810
fasteddy said:
after they do the turn we could have the "before and after picture"


They will call it Puerto Peyronies. Look it up.
HILL BOY
mis2810 said:
They will call it Puerto Peyronies. Look it up.

I did not look it up but does it mean a crooked penis
Ladyjeeper
LOLOLOLOLOLOL, Melissa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I spit tea all over my keyboard!
Ladyjeeper
It's no wonder most of us get along so well!!!!! LOL!
HILL BOY
Ladyjeeper said:
It's no wonder most of us get along so well!!!!! LOL!


It should be always about being Happy Happy. If we can This was a good night. Thank you all.
mis2810
HILL BOY said:
I did not look it up but does it mean a crooked penis

That's it. Peyronies Disease. An ex co-worker of mine used to have his assistant pick up his medication for him. We looked up to see what the medicine was for and Holy Peyronies! Last time we snoop!!!! Who wants to know that about a co-worker!!!!!
jerry
image imageThe Cerro Prieto himself that he became famous June 10, 1993 when he visited the then president Carlos Salinas de Gortari republic to declare Biosphere Reserve Pinacate, the same where the president and companions, including Luis Donaldo Colosio, the then Secretary of Sedue, Manlio Fabio Beltrones governors of Sonora and Ernesto Ruffo Appel of Baja California, among other important personalities protection of ecology, that same hill today is being destroyed to remove stone material for the construction of the breakwater which will be the Home Port.

This "Prieto" hill sits in reserve, perhaps not in the core area, but if the buffer was chosen for the construction company to remove stone and gravel to haul it to Sandi Beach where they carried out the construction of the breakwater, however it is not the fault of the builder is the fact that looting the hill, but federal authorities are permitted.
Estero
Hmmmmm o_O

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeninsulardigital.com%2Fextra%2Fgravi-y-el-homeport-de-penasco-investiga-pgr-encargado-de-subcontratos-por-lavado-de-dinero%2F144879&edit-text=
jerry
Estero that is bad news...what is a Beltran enforcer doing in this deal? Any of you real estate FOLKS have any insights?

<mind yer manners, Jerry!>
Last edited: Apr 29, 2014 at 9:26 AM
InkaRoads
jerry said:
Estero that is bad news...what is a Beltran enforcer doing in this deal? Any of you real estate dipshits have any insights?


Well Jerry, am not in real estate and if I give you the insight I'll find myself in the outside, you know, you say potato I say papa!!!
HILL BOY
jerry said:
Estero that is bad news...what is a Beltran enforcer doing in this deal? Any of you real estate FOLKS have any insights?

<mind yer manners, Jerry!>

Jerry you freak me out on how much info you get. Send me your link.
jerry
Well have to retract...same name different crook....not the BL man in Sonoyta
apricot
Latest on the home port: http://www.sonoranresorts.mx/part-iv-economic-impact-of-home-port-on-puerto-penasco/
apricot
Sounds like they blasted the rocks to smithereens....40,000 cubic meters of rock blasted and the rocks from the blast are smaller than the specs for the smallest rocks needed?!? What's up with that?
Landshark
300 tons of explosives!?? 600,000 pounds of explosives!?? A wee bit much don't you think? No surprise there wasn't a rock left big enough to use. Oh well, at least they have a shitload of gravel for the new roads!
ben21
Landshark said:
Oh well, at least they have a shitload of gravel for the new roads!


Speaking of which... I went out there the other day and noticed the road still isn't paved. Is this going to happen anytime soon? It would be very Mexico to have a new cruise terminal with a dirt road leading to it.
AZRob
HILL BOY said:
I heard 60 foot all the way down to the sperm reef.

After a while, it should make a nice sperm bank for fishing.
Landshark
Landshark said:
300 tons of explosives!

Or does the word "ton" refer to energy production of the explosive?
jerry
go to CEDO and ask an expert about the permit.....eye opening in a bad way
HILL BOY
apricot said:
Sounds like they blasted the rocks to smithereens....40,000 cubic meters of rock blasted and the rocks from the blast are smaller than the specs for the smallest rocks needed?!? What's up with that?


Again you can't fix stupid. Truck strike. Truckers not getting paid. No permit for blasting. No blasting caps. Blew up to much shit. No profit in the work. Hello!!! Maybe they took all their profit up front that is why they are taking a walk. Sorry it is going to take a long time to sort this out. Glad they did not shut the Reef down or the RV Park. Now let them open up Sandy Beach it is still a cash cow for the Browns. O.pen up the new fishing jetty and I will be happy for now.
Terry C
" Maybe they took all their profit up front that is why they are taking a walk. "

In the US it's called up front billing. Bill more than you spent and hope they don't go broke.
garyd
Anything new on the "Home Port"?
dry heat
May 4th article update...
http://rockypoint360.com/work-on-puerto-penasco-home-port-resumes/
Kenny
dry heat said:

No problem...." provided a doubling up of efforts in order to recover lost time."
garyd
dry heat said:

Gracias
Arizona2010
Hey, just a word of caution for those that may be walking by this area especially for those who haven't been back to Rocky Point since work started on the port. Last night, I strolled down Sandy Beach to have dinner at the lovely restaurant next to Wrecked at the Reef as I have in times past. It was dark out, no more construction going on and when I got up where the port area began, there were a bunch of rocks in front of me, so I started walking over them to get to the restaurant. Big mistake. It wasn't until I was already up and over them that one of the security guards present, whom I didn't see before, came running up to me out of nowhere and demanded that I come with him to be escorted out of the area. At least, that is what I thought he was going to do but instead took me up to the front gate of this project and informed me they would call the police to have me ticketed if I didn't pay them cash for trespassing on private property. I ended up paying them in cash so I could go eat dinner next door. But anyone walking down in this area in the evening needs to be careful if they aren't familiar with this new port project because there are absolutely no signs along the beach saying do not enter or private property. There was a roped off area but that was further in from the water and didn't include the rocks I had walked across so if you are too far to the left on the beach and it is dusk/evening, then you may miss the roped off portion of the beach. You can still walk down to go to the restaurant or bar, but you now have to walk around this entire area before you get to the port, so just be careful.
mexicoruss
We just spent the last week there, if you paid someone to walk on the project that is all on on you. Don't be such a victim. If you want your money back tell me how much and I will get it for you
mexicoruss
On edit, that is such a stupid story.........sorry, living here brings the worst out in me.
mexicoruss
On edit again< I shouldn't use the word stupid.,.....I simply don't pay someone cause they tell me to I just dont get that
jerry
Russ, I don't know why(PRI?) but it is getting tougher to hang tough and not pay.....several stories I cannot share sadly..
HILL BOY
jerry said:
Russ, I don't know why(PRI?) but it is getting tougher to hang tough and not pay.....several stories I cannot share sadly..

Jerry I know you want to share so go on with it.
Roberto
mexicoruss said:
Don't be such a victim. If you want your money back tell me how much and I will get it for you


Well if you are that flush I'll give you a list to pay. Hard to do much when you are threatened with physical harm if you report.
Arizona2010
Maybe I should clarify, because it wasn't mentioned in my post but this went on for a good 15 minutes with the two security guards stating to me that the police were going to be called and they would have me ticketed for trespassing. They refused to relent while I was in the fenced in area. I supposed I could have just ran off back out where I had come from towards Wrecked at the Reef or back down Sandy Beach, but I didn't want the police going on some sort of "manhunt" because of what two security guards may have reported to them. All I wanted was to have some dinner and there I was in this fenced area with two guards demanding cash. I held out for as long as I could arguing with them, but after 15 minutes it was clear they weren't budging. It was after I paid them that they opened up the gate to let me leave.
HILL BOY
well if I read between the lines and you are threatened if you report that is not good news


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Kenny
It's not good news however you look at it.
Landshark
Based on this report it appears the security guys are nothing more than common criminals. I wonder who hired them? On second thought, never mind, just answered my own question.
Arizona2010
Nevertheless though, for anyone reading this please do not let what happen to me detract others from visiting and enjoying Puerto Penasco, especially the Mare Blu and Wrecked at the Reef. It is a great place, just be alert, aware of your surroundings, and as informed as possible about your locations of travel. Had I done my "homework" ahead of time, I would have known that this part of the beach became private property and access to where I was going restricted.
HILL BOY
Arizona2010 said:
Nevertheless though, for anyone reading this please do not let what happen to me detract others from visiting and enjoying Puerto Penasco, especially the Mare Blu and Wrecked at the Reef. It is a great place, just be alert, aware of your surroundings, and as informed as possible about your locations of travel. Had I done my "homework" ahead of time, I would have known that this part of the beach became private property and access to where I was going restricted.


Still that being said it does not give them the right to extort money.
playaperro
Arizona2010 said:
Nevertheless though, for anyone reading this please do not let what happen to me detract others from visiting and enjoying Puerto Penasco, especially the Mare Blu and Wrecked at the Reef. It is a great place, just be alert, aware of your surroundings, and as informed as possible about your locations of travel. Had I done my "homework" ahead of time, I would have known that this part of the beach became private property and access to where I was going restricted.

just curious, how much did they shake you down for?
El Tiburon
How much did you pay?
Arizona2010
$10 each to both of the security guards.
playaperro
Arizona2010 said:
$10 each to both of the security guards.

And Why do you think this belongs in the homeport thread (now I know why Bill gets so mad he wanted to leave)? You do know we have a bad news thread.
Last edited: May 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM
jerry
El pescado siempre se pudre por la cabeza.
playaperro
jerry said:
El pescado siempre se pudre por la cabeza.

Ese pescado brinko un barricade Y era la culpa de los guardias ke lo chingaron, Mas o menos se porto como un ladron, por que Le pago a los guardias, milagro ke no se lo levaron a piche bote por la noche.
mis2810
I think the pescado Jerry was referring to was the Chief of Police, or even the Mayor?
jerry
mis2810 said:
I think the pescado Jerry was referring to was the Chief of Police, or even the Mayor?

Just seems like everyone has a handout now....hell the military roadblock to catch illegal shrimpers near Santo Tomas was setup in a way a guy could avoid it...almost...then local po po were waiting around a bend....the pesos then flowed
mis2810
A lot has changed since the PRI came back into control. Reading the Sonoyta and Penasco news/Facebook, everyone is fed up with them. But hey, they're the ones who voted them back in 2012. All over Mexico people were impatient with the PAN trying to undo 70 years of PRI control (corruption). So instead of waiting it out, they go back to what that knew = PRI. Now what do they have? I'm not saying that the PAN or PRD are perfect, but not sure why anyone would ever vote PRI.
HILL BOY
playaperro said:
And Why do you think this belongs in the homeport thread (now I know why Bill gets so mad he wanted to leave)? You do know we have a bad news thread.

I guess because it all started at the Home Port?
playaperro
HILL BOY said:
I guess because it all started at the Home Port?

Mitotero!
Last edited: May 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Roberto
mis2810 said:
. All over Mexico people were impatient with the PAN trying to undo 70 years of PRI control (corruption). So instead of waiting it out, they go back to what that knew = PRI. .


So are you suggesting they jumped out of the PAN into the fire???? :eek::eek::eek::eek:
mis2810
Roberto said:
So are you suggesting they jumped out of the PAN into the fire???? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying! LMAO!!!! Leave it to you to think of that . . . . actually it's something GV would say also. Where is GV? He hasn't checked in since his trip down this weekend. Is he in jail?
Terry C
They had banners on the sides of the cars looking for him. " GV runs stop lights and stop signs" Watch your Taco's....
Roberto
mis2810 said:
Where is GV? He hasn't checked in since his trip down this weekend. Is he in jail?


Think he is on his way to Green Valley today. We created a diversion so he could slip out quietly.
GV Jack
Right on, Roberto. Home safely and the Gendarmes never had a chance. I snuck out under the cover of darkness and
made it here in four hours flat. Would have been sooner except for Ross' prostate. Had my usual great time this trip
including dinner with a rumbler with 10" spikes. Dined at Mare Blu last night and must say I preferred the view prior
to the addition of the rock pile. Food and service was excellent. Ask for Omar, used to work at Panne & Vino. Only
complaint was the doggone wind. Only stopped one day and switched to the north which brought in bugs galore.. I
can't wait for my next trip in August.
playaperro
HILL BOY said:
I guess because it all started at the Home Port?


Ustds nomas andan estorbando aqui!
HILL BOY
Work stopped again all trucks sitting anyone know why this time or just same old bull##*
mexicoruss
Geez hillboy do you live out there? Let them do their job. It will either get finished or it won't but really a report every time you see trucks parked?
mis2810
mexicoruss said:
Geez hillboy do you live out there? Let them do their job. It will either get finished or it won't but really a report every time you see trucks parked?


Maybe it's their day off? Did they ever say they were alsways going to work 7 days a week?
Landshark
Kenny said:
No problem...." provided a doubling up of efforts in order to recover lost time."

They say this & then take days off. A gringo interprets this remark as working 24/7 until completion because that's the way we have been raised. A Mexican worker explained their way to me once; "Americans live to work, Mexicans work to live." Made me rethink a lot of things. Mañana amigos, mañana!