New Mexico hunters and trappers killing every bear and lion they can

[Kenny]

We had them rooting around outside our office windows when I worked at Scottsdale Fashion Square in the heart of downtown, Scottsdale and Camelback. They ain't skeered of anything!

They don't look for trouble, but they do believe in Florida's "stand your ground" law.... They can't see worth a hoot! Stand still and make like a tree downwind, and they'll walk right by you, stop, and then wonder where that human smell is coming from behind them.

 

[Stuart]

I would name him Javier.

I'd name him "Nervous."

 

[jerry]

I'd name him "Nervous."

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was sadly named Jerry Jr. ... he is the fattest and slowest.DON from the forum made me some beautiful arrows a few years agNE of which I have put a blunted tip on.Jerry the pig has felt that dull thud in his side a few times.....runs like hell.. Happy stays out of range.

 

[Southbeacher]

Hunting (as managed by Fish and Game) serves a valuable purpose -- it helps keep the checks and balances that Nature intended somewhat in place now that so many natural predators have been taken out of the picture. Although I don't hunt, never have, I don't have issue with it as some here do. I do have issues with trophy hunts, in the sense that some guy with lots of money pays a game ranch big bucks to go to their managed property and kill an exotic animal just for the pure sport of it. However, no issue with guys that apply for and get drawn for their hunting permit, go out.

Agree. In view of the unfortunate culling of natural predators, and as long as people put meat on their plates, hunting responsibly can actually be a way more humane alternative than buying your horrifically-factory-grown-and-slaughtered, neatly packaged protein of choice.

 

[dirtsurfer]

Stuart: a good trivia question is to ask which animal kills the most people in the U.S., the answer is deer. But of course, when you shoot & poison the wolf population, kill most of the bears and eradicate the lions & coyotes the natural balance is upset and makes for a strong argument that we need to control the population.

 

[Landshark]

Stuart: a good trivia question is to ask which animal kills the most people in the U.S., the answer is deer. But of course, when you shoot & poison the wolf population, kill most of the bears and eradicate the lions & coyotes the natural balance is upset and makes for a strong argument that we need to control the population.

I would have answered the question "humans." Wait, need to rethink this. We're lower than animals...we kill for fun.

 

[Kenny]

I would have answered the question "humans." Wait, need to rethink this. We're lower than animals...we kill for fun.

Remember when the scientific community was shocked when they first observed Chimpanzees committing what amounts to murder?

 

[Landshark]

http://www.bigsiteofamazingfacts.com/are-monkeys-and-apes-as-evil-as-some-humans-and-do-they-murder-and-commit-crimes-against-their-own-species
Are Monkeys and Apes as Evil as Some Humans and Do They Murder and Commit Crimes Against Their Own Species?

 

[Landshark]

These guys are in Candy Kitchen, NM and are doing great things for wolf awareness. They do educational presentations in the Southwest that are really cool. Went to one in Pinetop last year and was very impressed. Talked a lot about the Mexican Gray Wolf reintroduction program.
http://www.wildspiritwolfsanctuary.org/index.php

 

[Kelney]

 

[jerry]

I ate artificial venison in a Tasmania open air market.....it really sucked

 

[Kelney]

This is no artificial venison here. Got some desert muley going in the dehydrator this morning.

 

[jerry]

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/groups-seek-end-of-crazy-bighorn-reintroduction/article_223a5e60-30a6-5316-8ab7-86d7b2f2f7d0.html

 

[Kenny]

Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:15 AM...The Arizona Republic editorial board was absolutely correct in pointing out that Arizona's wildlife belong to all. The process of coming together to achieve a great act of repatriation is difficult and it can be messy, but bighorn sheep and mountain lions can ultimately coexist in a naturally functioning ecosystem, as they have done for centuries.
The magnificent desert bighorn sheep is an important missing component of the biodiversity of the Santa Catalina Mountains, and the individuals working as a coalition in conservation deserve our respect for trying to restore the bighorn population on behalf of all citizens.
Larry D. Voyles is director of the Arizona Game and Fish Department.
http://www.azcentral.com/opinions/articles/20131226desert-bighorn-sheep-catalina-mountains-game-fish-voyles.html

 

[jerry]

Some of the hunting ranches in Sonora put out trails of food that lure the sheep up on a ridge line where a Jackson Hole Ahole is waiting in ambush to kill what is basically a zoo animal.I sort of have no problem with this amusement park style hunting but then again I am not a sheep.
http://gothunts.com/mexico-desert-bighorn-sheep-hunt/

 

[Landshark]

Too bad the sheep can't put out trails of tacos and ambush the guides. Payback's a bitch.

 

[Kenny]

It's not fish and game that's makes a lot of money off the Sheep as they only give out about 160 tags a year in a draw. Now the outfitters, that's another story.http://www.arizonahunting.net/bighornsheep.htm
If you need a desert bighorn sheep for the Slam and don't want to pay $60,000 for a hunt in Mexico, contact us!

 

[mis2810]

Too bad the sheep can't put out trails of tacos and ambush the guides. Payback's a bitch.

If only!!!! I'll bring the tacos!

 

[jerry]

Karma seems to have worked its magic on the New Mexico dog killer ( a good but long story). And it looks like Audsley may be having some luck with the Tucson Bighorn herd relocation.I saw what we are pretty sure was sheep shat on Edwin road last week..another relocation effort is happening north of Tucson today too....kids from Central America!The protesters blocked a YMCA camp bus in their first protest last week.

http://tucson.com/news/local/bighorns-finding-their-footing-wildlife-officials-say/article_1585eca5-ff60-5f59-8273-e584028deac1.html

EDITED TO DELETE TOTALLY UNNECESSARY POLITICAL BULLCRAP. YOU KNOW BETTER, JERRY!
The Management

 

[Kenny]

“The odds of a sheep herd surviving long term in the Catalina Mountains are not good,” saidRicardo Small, a member of Friends of Wild Animals. “Conditions that led to the demise of the native bighorn sheep back in the 1990s are worse today, not better. The current program is a waste of bighorn sheep lives and the lives of mountain lions.”