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Looks like lock down will continue for awhile

Started by RP Life · Apr 26, 2020 · 1,380 replies
RP Life
Puerto Peñasco reaches 13 Covid-19 cases
As of last Saturday (June 13th), Puerto Peñasco reached a total of 13 confirmed Covid-19 cases. This comes as Sonora itself was categorized for a second week in a row at the “red” maximum health risk level on the nation’s “risk alert stoplight.”

Sonora Health Secretary Enrique Clausen Iberri insisted the challenge now is for Sonora to change from red to orange on the federal health alert, which will only be possible with the commitment of the community, State government, health sector, and City administrations.

Puerto Peñasco has reported 13 confirmed cases of coronavirus since April 22nd, with one death, 11 recoveries and 1 active case, while nearby Sonoyta has had 27 confirmed cases, and two deaths. From March 16th – June 15th, Sonora has reported 5062 cases and 432 deaths.

https://rockypoint360.com/puerto-penasco-reaches-13-covid-19-cases/
RP Life
Governors in Mexico propose making tourism an essential activity
The proposal to deem tourism an essential activity in Mexico was presented at last week’s virtual meeting of the Executive Tourism Commission of the National Governors Conference (CANAGO), along with various members of the Federal cabinet, including Interior Secretary Olga Sánchez Cordero, Health Secretary Jorge Alcocer Varela, as well as Tourism Secretary Miguel Torruco Marqués.

The governors, including Sonora Governor Claudia Pavlovich and Mexico City mayor Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo, made several proposals that led to three agreements:

First – pick up the conversation again with results of the weekly “stoplight” health alert; Second – seek alternatives for each State in order to simultaneously stratify the epidemiology and dependence of the state’s economy on tourism; and Third – instrument protocols under the joint guidance of Sectur (Ministry of Tourism) and IMSS (Social Security Institute).

Mexican Tourism Secretary Torruco Marqués expressed that nationally tourism is one of the hardest hit areas due to the coronavirus, as it represents 8.7% of Mexico’s GDP and the creation of eleven million direct and indirect jobs. He specified that last year Mexico received 45 million international tourists, which is a 9% increase over 2018, and economic revenue of over 24 billion dollars. He added that tourism had the highest positive commercial balance, at 14.7 billion dollars, while tourist spending in the country topped 142 billion dollars.

Within this context, Torruco Marqués requested that Health Secretary Jorge Alcocer Varela and Deputy Secretary Hugo López-Gatell, the latter who has been the country’s front man during this health emergency, to reconsider tourism as an essential activity both for the good of the economy, as well as for the good of so many jobs currently at risk.

He added the tourism industry is one that must be cared for, protected, and above all reevaluated in order to move forward through the problems caused by the global pandemic.

Olga Sánchez Cordero, Secretary of the Interior, agreed tourism should resume, though adapt to a series of changes to ensure it is done as safely as possible. She maintained her commitment and openness to dialog with the governors and mayor of Mexico City, in designing strategies to recover tourism activities during Mexico’s “New Normal”, while urging all to continue to work together to reactivate different parts of the Mexican economy on which millions of family depend.

https://rockypoint360.com/governors-in-mexico-propose-making-tourism-an-essential-activity/
Queen of Kings
Blah, blah, blah. Same crap different day. I will believe it when I see it.
brokenwave
We've all seen so much smoke and mirrors that will we even recognize something true?
Mexico Joe
brokenwave said:

We've all seen so much smoke and mirrors that will we even recognize something true?


Still trying to figure out no kayaks or boats??? But you can congregate in the LP pool??? This has turned into a CIRCUS sponsored by ENCANTAME TOWERS. I wonder if the cartel following the strict guidelines???
Queen of Kings
Mexico Joe said:

I wonder if the cartel following the strict guidelines???

Yes, word on the street is they have turned in all their illegal guns and are maintaining the 1.5m social distancing guidelines.
Mexico Joe
Queen of Kings said:

Yes, word on the street is they have turned in all their illegal guns and are maintaining the 1.5m social distancing guidelines.


1.5m = 4.5 feet

They're walking all over the rules. Shocker.
Hobie Vern
I bet they're wearing their masks!!
RP Life
update on Rocky Point 360

This was changed on 6/15/20

The previous limit on only 2 people per car will no longer be in effect. However, EVERYONE in the car must have a mask readily available as they are still required in Public Spaces (Update on June 15th by Mayor: families in car together don’t each have to wear a mask – but you need one when you get out in any public space)

https://rockypoint360.com/puerto-penasco-opens-its-doors-to-tourism/
Roberto
We like to know about business relationships,especially when messages have a repetitive element. While we appreciate your passing along things you feel are important from press releases, meeting etc. and such, what is your relationship with Enacantame Towers. Are they the only business that has anything to do with the city's actions over the virus? Can you tell us what their relationship, if any, with the city is? The forum has has a past relationship with Encantame Towers. To be open it is probably not a very good one. Ya'll had a goofball on here acting real stupid. You can read the old posts.
RP Life
Like I said before I do not know any of these people personally. Not the mayor, Encantame Towers, Rocky Point 360, Rocky Point Times or anyone else that has authority in Penasco. If I did I would not be wasting my time on here to get 2nd hand information. I was only trying to help to pass updated information to those that are trying to follow the current rules and do not want to get fined. So if you are not interested in what I post Block Me.
RP Life
https://rockypoint360.com/puerto-penasco-progresses-to-phase-iv/

Puerto Peñasco progresses to Phase IV

Proposed upcoming dates: July 1 – Entry to residents permitted. Main objective is for full-time residents who were unable to return to Puerto Peñasco prior to lockdown guidelines (proof of residence, photo identification). July 15 – Visitors (family/friends), as well as part-time home owners.
Roberto
RP Life said:

Like I said before I do not know any of these people personally. Not the mayor, Encantame Towers, Rocky Point 360, Rocky Point Times or anyone else that has authority in Penasco. If I did I would not be wasting my time on here to get 2nd hand information. I was only trying to help to pass updated information to those that are trying to follow the current rules and do not want to get fined. So if you are not interested in what I post Block Me.


Hey guy chill out. I already told you I appreciate your effort here. Was a question.. Search encantame here and see why I was curious . We have a lot of games here have a laugh.

Read it over and you will realize I asked about Encantame, that was pretty much it. I am still curious why he is the only business I see invited to meetings. I think it's a fair question given all the problems here.
mexicoruss
Roberto said:

Hey guy chill out. I already told you I appreciate your effort here. Was a question.. Search encantame here and see why I was curious . We have a lot of games here have a laugh.

Read it over and you will realize I asked about Encantame, that was pretty much it. I am still curious why he is the only business I see invited to meetings. I think it's a fair question given all the problems here.

what makes you think that Encantame is the only business invited to the meetings?
Last edited: Jun 18, 2020 at 5:38 PM
Kenny
mexicoruss said:

what makes you think that Encantame is the business invited to the meetings?

Don't be coy. Is there anything that you would like to share with us along those lines Russ?
mexicoruss
Roberto said:

Hey guy chill out. I already told you I appreciate your effort here. Was a question.. Search encantame here and see why I was curious . We have a lot of games here have a laugh.

Read it over and you will realize I asked about Encantame, that was pretty much it. I am still curious why he is the only business I see invited to meetings. I think it's a fair question given all the problems here.

what makes you think that Encantame is the business invited to the meetings?
Kenny said:

Don't be coy. Is there anything that you would like to share with us along those lines Russ?

i meant to say only business there are a good number represented.
MIRAMAR
I don't understand why Penasco opened up to visitors, but people who own homes cannot go to their residences: "For at least the next two weeks, no one will be allowed to enter the city to stay at a private residence, including property owners, unless they had special permission to leave for medical reasons."

But if you have a rental for a condo:

"Beaches are still closed, as are bars and nightclubs and the city's boardwalk. But Munro says tourists can enjoy pools, golfing, restaurants, ATV rentals and other attractions. Health and sanitation rules will be in place for all activities, he said."
Mexico Joe
MIRAMAR said:

I don't understand why Penasco opened up to visitors, but people who own homes cannot go to their residences: "For at least the next two weeks, no one will be allowed to enter the city to stay at a private residence, including property owners, unless they had special permission to leave for medical reasons."

But if you have a rental for a condo:

"Beaches are still closed, as are bars and nightclubs and the city's boardwalk. But Munro says tourists can enjoy pools, golfing, restaurants, ATV rentals and other attractions. Health and sanitation rules will be in place for all activities, he said."


It's Mexico. We knew this would be a shit show.
ernesto
I guess that's what we like about it? We used to joke about it being "just dirty enough"
Idyllwild
20 minutes ago I observed a police action against a group of vehicles bypassing security off road near the highway from Golfo. Some people might be quarantining in jail tonight.
Roberto
Any shots fired ??
Mexico Joe
Idyllwild said:

20 minutes ago I observed a police action against a group of vehicles bypassing security off road near the highway from Golfo. Some people might be quarantining in jail tonight.


Not after they make a call to someone they know...
Idyllwild
No shots were fired. I am aware of a few well connected people who are renting houses out that are not on the approved list. So the integrity of this process is less than complete.
Idyllwild
I also have a reliable report that the strategy of renting a room for one night to re-enter and move to your home has been shut down.
brokenwave
That depends on where you're at, I'm hearing going to your Cholla house isn't a problem if it's there for the switcheroo.
Also hearing that maybe next week opening up for owners, what requirements ? at this time. I was told to be patient
because getting in could be easier next week by from someone who deals with the city regularly.
Mexico Joe
Idyllwild said:

I also have a reliable report that the strategy of renting a room for one night to re-enter and move to your home has been shut down.


Pretty ironic in a country where corruption is so pervasive that you will get arrested for going to your own house. Who's snitching on you? Your neighbors? Basically drug dealing and open killings are ok but petty offenses Mexico is the KING of ball busting.
Buffalo Marty
This comment was posted under the video of Kiko's ABC15 interview. I figured I would re-post here since it seems like a legit 1st person account of entering RP this week:

Buzzworm 6 hours ago
Arrived in Penasco June 17. Usual quick search of vehicle by Mexican customs at the border. Did not even ask for documents. At checkpoint outside RP, wait was about 15 minutes. Staff there was courteous and professional. We were asked by ID, copy of rental confirmation and asked to walk through decontamination tunnel. We apparently were scanned for temperature problems without even leaving the car. In town, everyone was nice and many of the folks we see on a regular basis seemed pleased we are there. Many restaurants are open but in dire need of patrons. We're trying to leave 25-30 percent tips. Beaches remain closed except for the top levels near the resorts, but you can walk short distances between resorts. Pools, Jacs all open. Masks are required but you do not have to keep it over your face inside restaurants. Sea breeze coupled with lower temps than Southwest U.S. are still pleasant this late into June.
Queen of Kings
Good to know you are allowed to move your mask to shovel food into your mouth. Nice touch Mexico.....
playaperro
Facebook posts show plenty of sicarios aligned with the Salazar's at Puerto lobos taking trucks, don't venture out that way, pretty much all that region from caborca to Nogales. Like they say pretty much easier getting into the USA illegally than trying to get into Penasco legally.
RP Life
This was listed on La Reyna Del Mar Radio Facebook 6/20/20

Reveal 1 new case of Coronavirus Covid-19 in Puerto Peñasco; add 14 in total

The Ministry of Health in the state reported that this Friday a new case of Coronavirus Covid-19 was confirmed in Puerto Peñasco, with which 14 infected people are counted.
Enrique Clausen Iberri, Health Secretary, reported that in neighboring Sonoyta, a new case was also recorded, for a total of 32 patients and 2 deaths.

Meanwhile, the portal of the Federal Health Secretariat presents in its statistics 14 confirmed cases in Puerto Peñasco, of which 12 would be recovered, one is active and one died; in total there would be 7 male and 7 female patients; all with a history of chronic degenerative diseases. To date, there are 30 tests with negative results for Covid-19 and there is a record of 24 suspects.
playaperro
RP Life said:

This was listed on La Reyna Del Mar Radio Facebook 6/20/20

Reveal 1 new case of Coronavirus Covid-19 in Puerto Peñasco; add 14 in total

The Ministry of Health in the state reported that this Friday a new case of Coronavirus Covid-19 was confirmed in Puerto Peñasco, with which 14 infected people are counted.
Enrique Clausen Iberri, Health Secretary, reported that in neighboring Sonoyta, a new case was also recorded, for a total of 32 patients and 2 deaths.

Meanwhile, the portal of the Federal Health Secretariat presents in its statistics 14 confirmed cases in Puerto Peñasco, of which 12 would be recovered, one is active and one died; in total there would be 7 male and 7 female patients; all with a history of chronic degenerative diseases. To date, there are 30 tests with negative results for Covid-19 and there is a record of 24 suspects.

Hey Life what about the Salazar's with 100 trucks in lobos this morning it's on ariete carborca Facebook or do you not put out that kind of info, you seem to know more than you copy and paste.
RP Life
playaperro said:

Hey Life what about the Salazar's with 100 trucks in lobos this morning it's on ariete Carborca Facebook or do you not put out that kind of info, you seem to know more than you copy and paste.

I really just try to put info pertaining to Rocky Point, but I saw what you are talking about. IN MY OPINION this is cartel activity either coming with drugs or trying to take over a drug route and they got the OK from the top that they can make a move. The Northern states of Mexico that connects with the US border are what the cartels fight over.
Mexico Joe
playaperro said:

Hey Life what about the Salazar's with 100 trucks in lobos this morning it's on ariete carborca Facebook or do you not put out that kind of info, you seem to know more than you copy and paste.



Real interested now DOG. Can you PM me? I was just trying to convince the GF to take our kayaks down to LOBOS some time late summer, early fall. I'm not connected to any of the facebook news. What's happening down that way?! I saw a few things recently on BDN in Caborca and Y GRIEGA.
Mexico Joe
playaperro said:

Facebook posts show plenty of sicarios aligned with the Salazar's at Puerto lobos taking trucks, don't venture out that way, pretty much all that region from caborca to Nogales. Like they say pretty much easier getting into the USA illegally than trying to get into Penasco legally.


Taking trucks? Like stealing trucks?
Mexico Joe
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Just went to the FB page you referenced. Jesus christ. The block is HOT in Lobos!!!
Roberto
Mexico Joe said:

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Just went to the FB page you referenced. Jesus christ. The block is HOT in Lobos!!!

can you send me a link. Cannot get through. Sounds very familiar.I still have the pics rom back then.
audsley
Try this. Things just got spicier with video of bodies along the road between Caborca and Sonoyta. But I wonder why I can't pick up this story anywhere else. Some of the action evidently started late last night. You would think...

https://www.facebook.com/ariete.caborca/?ref=page_internal
audsley
El Imparcial has it, but doesn't have a translation option. They aren't acting like it's a huge deal. Haven't been able to find any more about Lobos.
RP Life
Not sure if you all are seeing this.
Check out the Interactive Map update to locate COVID-19. Risk Zones. Remember that cases have not been officially released, but it can help prevent infections, as suspected individuals were applied fast test and are isolated.

fallecimiento - Death
recuperado - Recovered
sospechoso - Suspect
extra oficial - extra official
zona de contacto frecuente - frequent contact area
activo - Active

Covid-19 Map.jpg
www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/pe%C3%B1asco_covid-19/RrcqooJs6i
brokenwave
Wow, CV-19 cases in Penasco was at 14 cases two days ago, from the yellow and other spots it looks to be ramping up, perhaps doubling???
I'm hoping it doesn't, but with Mexico, AZ and other border states surging I don't see how Penasco can keep it controlled as well as they have.

Opening up to tourism will allow 2-3K plus more people to mingle with the Penasco locals which will cause new cases to increase.
I was sure hoping for the next phase to open it up more and allow homeowners back. By July 4th, we should know if opening was a mistake.
Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. :confused: But still keeping my fingers crossed.

I Know the locals need it to open, I sent some $$ via Western Union today for a local friend to help pay some of his expenses
since he chips in for 10 family members.
Queen of Kings
Starve to death from lack of food and money or possibly get sick for a few days. Which one would I prefer?
mexicoruss
Queen of Kings said:

Starve to death from lack of food and money or possibly get sick for a few days. Which one would I prefer?

I know for me..I don't really care what you prefer. You are not here. You are probably comfortable up there somewhere looking down your nose at people trying to do the right thing. Who cares what you prefer? Nobody here for sure.
Mexico Joe
RP Life said:

Not sure if you all are seeing this.
Check out the Interactive Map update to locate COVID-19. Risk Zones. Remember that cases have not been officially released, but it can help prevent infections, as suspected individuals were applied fast test and are isolated.

fallecimiento - Death
recuperado - Recovered
sospechoso - Suspect
extra oficial - extra official
zona de contacto frecuente - frequent contact area
activo - Active

Covid-19 Map.jpg
www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/pe%C3%B1asco_covid-19/RrcqooJs6i


As soon as I saw this I thought, that looks like more than 14 DOTS. Yellow being suspected...
Roberto
that and where is it coming from?
RP Life
When looking at the interactive map the places that are in the purple triangle (frequent contact area) meaning areas highly likely to contract Covid-19 are as follows:


Area of Bella Sirena, Las Palmas, Sonoran Sea Resorts
Area Las Palomas Resort
Area of Super Ley and Coppel
Area of Banorte Bank on Freemont Blvd
Area of Hospital by Rocky Imports
Area of Hospital by the Oomapas Water company
Area of IMSS Unidad Médica Familiar Número 9 beside the Hospital

Remember the city just allowed residents to re-enter June 1st - 10th from within Mexico and outside of Mexico.
rplarry
RP Life said:

When looking at the interactive map the places that are in the purple triangle (frequent contact area) meaning areas highly likely to contract Covid-19 are as follows:


Area of Bella Sirena, Las Palmas, Sonoran Sea Resorts
Area Las Palomas Resort
Area of Super Ley and Coppel
Area of Banorte Bank on Freemont Blvd
Area of Hospital by Rocky Imports
Area of Hospital by the Oomapas Water company
Area of IMSS Unidad Médica Familiar Número 9 beside the Hospital

Remember the city just allowed residents to re-enter June 1st - 10th from within Mexico and outside of Mexico.


You are better than Columbo ! Such a researcher you are.

What an incredible scientific list of areas that one might encounter the WuFLu ! Your analysis is saving lives.

Pretty funny. The virus is probably all over the place. Wonder if it will show up at an OXOXO next ?

Maybe near Russ' house in the hood ? , as he calls it

The LEGITIMATE problem that worries me is that Rocky Point, not known for germaphobia or high sanitary standards, has now locked down it's entire population from ANY and ALL BUGS. They have shuttered all from not only Covid herd immunity, but also the gazillions of other bugs that float around the fish market, the bathrooms with no soap and no hot water, the restaurants, etc., etc.

Now, the population that has been quarantined is wide open to illnesses that their immune systems were already easily able to fight off and now with all the purrell baths and sanitization and lockdown, residents will be getting sick from stuff that they never would have every had to worry about otherwise.

I'd be much more worried about that, than the WuFlu. Getting sick from stuff that you otherwise would not have gotten sick from could just overwhelm the challenged medical system in RP.

What say you Roberto?, you scientific expert you ? Didn't you say you worked in a lab at one point and now you have expert advice and opinions ?
Idyllwild
rplarry said:

You are better than Columbo ! Such a researcher you are.

What an incredible scientific list of areas that one might encounter the WuFLu ! Your analysis is saving lives.

Pretty funny. The virus is probably all over the place. Wonder if it will show up at an OXOXO next ?

Maybe near Russ' house in the hood ? , as he calls it

The LEGITIMATE problem that worries me is that Rocky Point, not known for germaphobia or high sanitary standards, has now locked down it's entire population from ANY and ALL BUGS. They have shuttered all from not only Covid herd immunity, but also the gazillions of other bugs that float around the fish market, the bathrooms with no soap and no hot water, the restaurants, etc., etc.

Now, the population that has been quarantined is wide open to illnesses that their immune systems were already easily able to fight off and now with all the purrell baths and sanitization and lockdown, residents will be getting sick from stuff that they never would have every had to worry about otherwise.

I'd be much more worried about that, than the WuFlu. Getting sick from stuff that you otherwise would not have gotten sick from could just overwhelm the challenged medical system in RP.

What say you Roberto?, you scientific expert you ? Didn't you say you worked in a lab at one point and now you have expert advice and opinions ?

Some of the people who post here are scientists with decades of experience working in a lab, or even hundreds of peer reviewed publications. Such people tend to bristle at hearing racist slang for things that have perfectly reasonable scientific and common names. Such people also know that if only 1% (or less) of a population has antibodies (which may or may not imply immunity), that population is no where near herd immunity. The US population is millions of deaths from herd immunity in the case of COVID-19.
Queen of Kings
mexicoruss said:

I know for me..I don't really care what you prefer. You are not here. You are probably comfortable up there somewhere looking down your nose at people trying to do the right thing. Who cares what you prefer? Nobody here for sure.

And I could give two shits which you prefer as well. You are just some self-righteous internet stranger that has zero effect on my life. Sorry your lot in life is so bad. Maybe come to America and things will improve? Or are you not allowed?
Queen of Kings
Idyllwild said:

Some of the people who post here are scientists with decades of experience working in a lab, or even hundreds of peer reviewed publications. Such people tend to bristle at hearing racist slang for things that have perfectly reasonable scientific and common names. Such people also know that if only 1% (or less) of a population has antibodies (which may or may not imply immunity), that population is no where near herd immunity. The US population is millions of deaths from herd immunity in the case of COVID-19.

Yup, everyone on the internet is an expert.....Especially these days when it come to the Chinese virus. Intelligent don't believe a word from the internet 'experts'. I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. You may now address me as an Expert on pretty much all things.
mexicoruss
Queen of Kings said:

And I could give two shits which you prefer as well. You are just some self-righteous internet stranger that has zero effect on my life. Sorry your lot in life is so bad. Maybe come to America and things will improve? Or are you not allowed?

nope..not allowed...
rplarry
Idyllwild said:

Some of the people who post here are scientists with decades of experience working in a lab, or even hundreds of peer reviewed publications. Such people tend to bristle at hearing racist slang for things that have perfectly reasonable scientific and common names. Such people also know that if only 1% (or less) of a population has antibodies (which may or may not imply immunity), that population is no where near herd immunity. The US population is millions of deaths from herd immunity in the case of COVID-19.


First of all, nothing I said was racist. The virus originated in Wuhan and it has attributes of the flu. Hence, WuFlu. Get a grip softy. People like you are so bored that you have to make up things to be offended by, or lob accusations that have zero merit. Go find your safe space and your stuffed unicorn to hug on to make you feel better.

As the bold and courageous lab rat expert that you are, I’m guessing you would agree with my sentiments about the unintended consequences of a lengthy shelter in place lockdown , correct ?
Kenny
I just want to stop in and thank Larry for showing everyone very clearly what I've known about his core for years. It's empty.
rplarry
Kenny said:

I just want to stop in and thank Larry for showing everyone very clearly what I've known about his core for years. It's empty.


Thanks Kenny. I have always held your opinion and commentary in the highest esteem.

Maybe IdylWind will let you borrow his stuffed unicorn as well.
Kenny
I have always seen you as a weak man Larry, and you have never let me down. Love ya man, and pass that, uh, unicorn over to me.
rplarry
Kenny said:

I have always seen you as a weak man Larry, and you have never let me down. Love ya man, and pass that, uh, unicorn over to me.


Unicorn is taken unfortunately.

How about a nice big stuffed Jackalope ?
joester
Good luck Kenny, we're taking a vacation away from all things Mexico for 6 months - have a great summer, be safe, stay healthy.
Queen of Kings
mexicoruss said:

nope..not allowed...

Gotcha, that explains your constant whining about how bad things seem to be where you are at. Did you ever think it just might be you?
Kenny
joester said:

Good luck Kenny, we're taking a vacation away from all things Mexico for 6 months - have a great summer, be safe, stay healthy.

Good for you Joe. You guys have a safe and wonderful time. I'll continue to monitor this global catastrophe and do what I need to do to keep us all safe.
mexicoruss
Queen of Kings said:

Gotcha, that explains your constant whining about how bad things seem to be where you are at. Did you ever think it just might be you?

Talk on jackass ..... talk on
CheddarBob
mexicoruss said:

Talk on jackass ..... talk on

Q of K kinda reminds of one those little annoying ankle biting dogs. Wont give up until they draw blood. Leaving you know choice but to squash it like a bug.
MIRAMAR
I think everyone is getting frustrated at this disease and how they're handling it. It's fine to say you have to wear a mask, but when they say it's ok for condo people to swim in a cramped overcrowded pool, but not in the ocean, or condo people can come down, but not people who own homes there, then we're giveng brains to question. It's like saying you can only walk on one side of the road but not the other--- WHY?
Landshark
MIRAMAR said:

I think everyone is getting frustrated at this disease and how they're handling it. It's fine to say you have to wear a mask, but when they say it's ok for condo people to swim in a cramped overcrowded pool, but not in the ocean, or condo people can come down, but not people who own homes there, then we're giveng brains to question. It's like saying you can only walk on one side of the road but not the other--- WHY?

I assume the town is desperate for money and under pressure from local businesses to open because they too are desperate. They are trying to be responsible and open in stages. The condos are most likely the biggest and quickest income producers and guests enjoy using the pools. Without the pools being open many wouldn’t come since the Feds have the beaches closed. Unfortunately this will cause a COVID spike. I feel bad for the residents that will pay the price, the virus is a nightmare without a solution.
Buffalo Marty
Landshark you are most likely correct; things are bad enough in the USA, imagine in Mexico. There is no unemployment insurance, small business loans, etc; the social safety net is pretty much non-existent. And it is magnified all the more in a tourist town where the economy is not as diversified as other places. There is no significant manufacturing or other industry to fall back on, so the pressure is intense to open the doors and let people flood back in. As shark says, there is no easy solution...
Roberto
I think there are at least 2 things the city has not figured out about how to handle the money making annual fee and spraying requirement for privately owned homes. You realize don't you that the spraying registration is the control element to collect a lot of money and to create several potentially very profitable private businesses, . There is no HOA or rental agency that controls the use of the privately owned and used homes that they can make responsible for registering the property, collecting the fees and enforcing the spraying. Secondly what about all the little paper homes in the colonias where many people live who barely get by. Charge them ???? I guess you could use the OOmapas lists but my understanding is that Federal law prohibits cutting off water delivery to a home. Collecting back taxes is also a very involved process through the federal government in Mexico City courts. Yeah there is an HOA for Los Conchas and they could put up a guard gate and register entries and shut down through the spraying requirement non payment but I think the property is too large to police access and egress and the frequency of coming and going would be a nightmare. even under today's circumstances of the HOA members ignored the city and just started to come the city would be overwhelmed for enforcement. .
brokenwave
Berto, This is the first I've heard about spraying peoples homes (locals).

With a sanitizing requirement for rentals it would allow the city to start collecting taxes and fees from people that have
been avoiding by renting their places on FB, Craigslist, Etc. Enforcement would become easy, not registered = no rental.
People will be forced to comply.
If they are going to require the sanitizing of peoples homes what do you do set it up like garbage PU, every Tues your place gets sprayed?
If this all plays out somebody just created a big $$ generator.
rplarry
brokenwave said:

Berto, This is the first I've heard about spraying peoples homes (locals).

With a sanitizing requirement for rentals it would allow the city to start collecting taxes and fees from people that have
been avoiding by renting their places on FB, Craigslist, Etc. Enforcement would become easy, not registered = no rental.
People will be forced to comply.
If they are going to require the sanitizing of peoples homes what do you do set it up like garbage PU, every Tues your place gets sprayed?
If this all plays out somebody just created a big $$ generator.


Is it only me, or is anyone else concerned about what they are actually spraying to sanitize the homes ?
Roberto
Yeah it has not been formally mentioned but......it't too tempting not to require the symmetry of an annual domestic spraying so as not to discriminate against the others. (Not to mention the buckets of cash generated. ) and remember it is for YOUR GOOD HEALTH.
What is your guess as to why the homeowners have been held up? Follow the money as they say.
I'm also waiting for the charge per person at the sanitary stop for incoming newbies. They gotta pay their share. Single visit good for up to 1 month, an annual admission or maybe a lifetime visitor's pass. ( does not include sanitary service required paid for by owner) . Need to have the Tourist VIsa at the same time. MORE $$$$.
mexicoruss
It could be...just maybe that the administration is measuring cause and effect as they slowly and incrementally open certain segments of the economy. Let tourist in under the agreed to protocols with the resorts in compliance and the responsibility to make sure their guest abide by the rules. Two weeks after that surge of tourist see what the covid situation looks like. Then let in home owners. In two weeks see what it looks like. Sure some folks are cashing in...but its more than one company doing the spraying. Will they spray every home? Not a chance...this is about letting outsiders in for the first time in 3 months.
Buffalo Marty
brokenwave said:

Berto, This is the first I've heard about spraying peoples homes (locals).

With a sanitizing requirement for rentals it would allow the city to start collecting taxes and fees from people that have
been avoiding by renting their places on FB, Craigslist, Etc. Enforcement would become easy, not registered = no rental.
People will be forced to comply.
If they are going to require the sanitizing of peoples homes what do you do set it up like garbage PU, every Tues your place gets sprayed?
If this all plays out somebody just created a big $$ generator.

I don't think the sanitizing requirement can serve that purpose. By definition anyone who is renting under the table is already ignoring the laws anyway. It is working that way now because they are ONLY letting people in with a formal reservation. But once they stop screening that way (which they have to do eventually) then anyone renting outside the system would still be able to do so.
Roberto
Why do you believe they have to stop screening??
Landshark
https://www.facebook.com/groups/PuertoPenasco/permalink/10158429259704002/
Not in my house!
Kenny
Landshark said:

That video blew me away.
CheddarBob
I think I have a better chance of living using my old 2 stroke 60 Hp Mercury outboard in my house. That is one concerning cloud of disinfectant. Cough Cough.
Queen of Kings
CheddarBob said:

Q of K kinda reminds of one those little annoying ankle biting dogs. Wont give up until they draw blood. Leaving you know choice but to squash it like a bug.

I beg you to squash me like a bug. You internet muscle man you.
Queen of Kings
rplarry said:

Is it only me, or is anyone else concerned about what they are actually spraying to sanitize the homes ?

Yesterday the FDA banned several hand sanitizers Made in Mexico because they contain toxic substances. God only knows what is in the sanitation tunnel 'mix' or the stuff they use to 'clean' your home. I guess what I am saying is, would I trust Mexico to ensure my safety? Not anymore than I would China, and they brought us the Chinese virus.
brokenwave
Queenie seez, "Would I trust Mexico or China to ensure my safety?"
My advise: Not anymore than listening to certain people going on TV to tell you to ingest bleach, hydroxychloroquine and other fun stuff.
ernesto
No one has been in the damn house for 4 months, HTF could there be virus there. Stoopid. It's being spread by uncovered pie holes not furniture.
Buffalo Marty
Roberto said:

Why do you believe they have to stop screening??

Sorry I should have clarified. They CAN continue the health screening for a longer period. But they CANNOT continue screening to only let people in that have official reservations at hotels/condos; at some point they will have to let people in regardless of where they are staying or going.
Roberto
Landshark said:


This is a UTube Joke, right??
Landshark
Roberto said:

This is a UTube Joke, right??

It is a video of the Tequila Factory being sanitized. I appreciate their efforts but downright scary to watch. I can’t imagine this happening in a private residence. This was posted with the video.
“In trying to give you peace of mind, we are having this done on a regular basis. We thank to the local company Ultra for their professional job and affordable prices.”
Queen of Kings
brokenwave said:

Queenie seez, "Would I trust Mexico or China to ensure my safety?"
My advise: Not anymore than listening to certain people going on TV to tell you to ingest bleach, hydroxychloroquine and other fun stuff.

Deflection, again. You don't address the factual information I post, you scream 'look over there!'. Must be tough being a liberal.
CheddarBob
Queen of Kings said:

I beg you to squash me like a bug. You internet muscle man you.

Anytime doggy/bug boy
Roberto
There still is the question what chemicals are they spraying? I think the comment from the Tequila Factory about regular spraying tells us something.
Roberto
Well they could get one of those spraying air planes that service the farms and just spray the whole town. Might give you real peace of mind and body.
Has anyone heard about this spraying for the virus being done elsewhere in the world?
RP Life
rplarry said:

You are better than Columbo ! Such a researcher you are.

What an incredible scientific list of areas that one might encounter the WuFLu ! Your analysis is saving lives.

Pretty funny. The virus is probably all over the place. Wonder if it will show up at an OXOXO next ?

Maybe near Russ' house in the hood ? , as he calls it

The LEGITIMATE problem that worries me is that Rocky Point, not known for germaphobia or high sanitary standards, has now locked down it's entire population from ANY and ALL BUGS. They have shuttered all from not only Covid herd immunity, but also the gazillions of other bugs that float around the fish market, the bathrooms with no soap and no hot water, the restaurants, etc., etc.

Now, the population that has been quarantined is wide open to illnesses that their immune systems were already easily able to fight off and now with all the purrell baths and sanitization and lockdown, residents will be getting sick from stuff that they never would have every had to worry about otherwise.

I'd be much more worried about that, than the WuFlu. Getting sick from stuff that you otherwise would not have gotten sick from could just overwhelm the challenged medical system in RP.

What say you Roberto?, you scientific expert you ? Didn't you say you worked in a lab at one point and now you have expert advice and opinions ?


I guess it's not science it's facts

Outbreak of Covid-19 in health workers in Puerto Peñasco transcends

* IMSS personnel are the most affected with at least 10 cases

By: Héctor Aldrete Germ an

It has emerged that a high number of health workers from different medical institutions in Puerto Peñasco, public and private, who have presented symptoms of the Covid-19 coronavirus, of which at least three doctors have had to be transferred to Hermosillo hospitals and Nogales for your attention.
Of these cases, the state of health considered serious, with high suspicion of Covid-19 when presenting symptoms and presenting pneumonia, of Dr. Francisco Javier Carrillo Ruiz, doctor of this port and who holds the position of director of Civil Protection and Local fire department, who was transferred last Monday night, June 22 to a private hospital in Hermosillo.
A more suspicious case of Covid-19, when presenting various symptoms of this disease, and who is waiting for the results of the pcr test, is Dr. Ivan Munguía, current Legislative Medical Officer of Municipal Public Security of this port, himself who for a week has been isolated and in poor health.
In the same way, the transfer to a Nogales hospital of a couple of IMSS doctors, who were also transferred with symptoms of Covid-19, with a reserved state of health.
In addition, at least 10 more cases of personnel from the same health institution with high suspicion of the virus are known to be isolated, awaiting results.
The medical personnel of the health institutions of this town are in the front line of battle in the combat of the Covid-19, exposing themselves to the contagion of the virus, but without letting their guard down in this fight in which they are the most important part in the care and health care of the rock people.

www.facebook.com/groups/PuertoPenasco/?fref=nf
Last edited: Jun 24, 2020 at 3:19 PM
Stuart
Locally, car dealerships and car washes are spraying the insides of vehicles, but nothing like that fog bank in the Tequila Factory. Just a few spritzes of disinfectant with AC running.
Mexico Joe
I have a TWIN ($20 BILL) that says that the fogging company and Manny's are financially connected... hard to take this seriously when Encantame Towers is branded all over the sanitary filter...
rplarry
RP Life said:

I guess is not science its facts

Outbreak of Covid-19 in health workers in Puerto Peñasco transcends

* IMSS personnel are the most affected with at least 10 cases

By: Héctor Aldrete Germ an

It has emerged that a high number of health workers from different medical institutions in Puerto Peñasco, public and private, who have presented symptoms of the Covid-19 coronavirus, of which at least three doctors have had to be transferred to Hermosillo hospitals and Nogales for your attention.
Of these cases, the state of health considered serious, with high suspicion of Covid-19 when presenting symptoms and presenting pneumonia, of Dr. Francisco Javier Carrillo Ruiz, doctor of this port and who holds the position of director of Civil Protection and Local fire department, who was transferred last Monday night, June 22 to a private hospital in Hermosillo.
A more suspicious case of Covid-19, when presenting various symptoms of this disease, and who is waiting for the results of the pcr test, is Dr. Ivan Munguía, current Legislative Medical Officer of Municipal Public Security of this port, himself who for a week has been isolated and in poor health.
In the same way, the transfer to a Nogales hospital of a couple of IMSS doctors, who were also transferred with symptoms of Covid-19, with a reserved state of health.
In addition, at least 10 more cases of personnel from the same health institution with high suspicion of the virus are known to be isolated, awaiting results.
The medical personnel of the health institutions of this town are in the front line of battle in the combat of the Covid-19, exposing themselves to the contagion of the virus, but without letting their guard down in this fight in which they are the most important part in the care and health care of the rock people.

www.facebook.com/groups/PuertoPenasco/?fref=nf


Hey Mr. Copy & Paste, ok, so what is your point ?

Are you able to communicate without copying and pasting 17 pages of information ?
Kenny
rplarry said:

Hey Mr. Copy & Paste, ok, so what is your point ?

Are you able to communicate without copying and pasting 17 pages of information ?


We all get to pick the point, and I pick this one. "In addition, at least 10 more cases of personnel from the same health institution with high suspicion of the virus are known to be isolated, awaiting results. The medical personnel of the health institutions of this town are in the front line of battle in the combat of the Covid-19, exposing themselves to the contagion of the virus, but without letting their guard down in this fight in which they are the most important part in the care and health care of the rock people.
Last edited: Jun 24, 2020 at 1:52 PM
kahunito
I have a hard time getting on Facebook and such, so Thank you for the info RP.
playaperro
They really should let the VRBO renters in the renters pool they are no longer renting under the table VRBO is requiring a tax number to rent in penasco, so they spray your home you can alway disinfect what they are spraying.
Have to ask azbeachboy how he got through the sanitation filter.
I did go through the sanitation tunnel once no big deal.
Mexico Joe
A LETTER TO THE MAYOR

KIKO! I don't speak for everyone but I speak. If and when you are ready, take down the sanitary barrier. 1/5 (20%) of people show no signs of Covid 19. The sanitary barrier is now an economic prosperity barrier. It's like turning a hose stream from 100% to 20%. The hose is still running water amigo! IF AND WHEN YOU TAKE THIS WALL DOWN I WILL COME! I will spend AT MINIMUM $500. When I get this second Trump check (socialism) I will SPEND ANOTHER $500!!! This is conditional. Based on your willingness to meet me half way! Let's do this for the greater good! As soon as the FILTER (efficacy rate 80%) is abolished I WILL BE THERE WITH $500 and then again with another $500!
Queen of Kings
Mexico Joe said:

A LETTER TO THE MAYOR

KIKO! I don't speak for everyone but I speak. If and when you are ready, take down the sanitary barrier. 1/5 (20%) of people show no signs of Covid 19. The sanitary barrier is now an economic prosperity barrier. It's like turning a hose stream from 100% to 20%. The hose is still running water amigo! IF AND WHEN YOU TAKE THIS WALL DOWN I WILL COME! I will spend AT MINIMUM $500. When I get this second Trump check (socialism) I will SPEND ANOTHER $500!!! This is conditional. Based on your willingness to meet me half way! Let's do this for the greater good! As soon as the FILTER (efficacy rate 80%) is abolished I WILL BE THERE WITH $500 and then again with another $500!

Agreed. Stop the insanity. Pure nonsense. The locals in RP are suffering and the mayor doesn't seem to care.
Petrose
playaperro said:


Have to ask azbeachboy how he got through the sanitation filter.


Chuck is still kicking? He's got to be hording beads instead of toilet paper.
Mexico Joe
Petrose said:

Chuck is still kicking? He's got to be hording beads instead of toilet paper.


He had to get around the sanitation filter because the FBI is looking for him in the states.... they want to "review" all of those late 90's polaroids...
Seahorse
Queen of Kings said:

Agreed. Stop the insanity. Pure nonsense. The locals in RP are suffering and the mayor doesn't seem to care.

The Mayor does care. He is doing his best to protect his community. After the horn goes off for curfew at 10pm they sanitize the streets. They had limited one person per car and to enter stores. $2600 peso fines for not wearing masks, if you can’t pay jail time. Barricaded the town before Santa Semana to protect the community. The people that live here have been basically quarantined since March other than essentials such as groceries or doctor appts. We had few covid cases. The mayor is opening up in phases. He allowed home owners in first, after that 5 new cases. Now tourists with reservations 10 new cases. This past week has been a shit show with the tourists. Swimming in the ocean, not wearing their masks in public places. I saw an employee ask two people to be 6 feet a part and the man went off on the employee. Do the tourists realize the hoops the city went thru to open up. All businesses, employees had to take classes and get certified. All homes, condos need to be sanitized with a certificate. If new cases continue to spike the Mayor will shut the city down again. They DO NOT have the medical facilities for a large out break. Majority of the locals are following the rules.
playaperro
Seahorse said:

The Mayor does care. He is doing his best to protect his community. After the horn goes off for curfew at 10pm they sanitize the streets. They had limited one person per car and to enter stores. $2600 peso fines for not wearing masks, if you can’t pay jail time. Barricaded the town before Santa Semana to protect the community. The people that live here have been basically quarantined since March other than essentials such as groceries or doctor appts. We had few covid cases. The mayor is opening up in phases. He allowed home owners in first, after that 5 new cases. Now tourists with reservations 10 new cases. This past week has been a shit show with the tourists. Swimming in the ocean, not wearing their masks in public places. I saw an employee ask two people to be 6 feet a part and the man went off on the employee. Do the tourists realize the hoops the city went thru to open up. All businesses, employees had to take classes and get certified. All homes, condos need to be sanitized with a certificate. If new cases continue to spike the Mayor will shut the city down again. They DO NOT have the medical facilities for a large out break. Majority of the locals are following the rules.

Perfect third person point of view but you are wrong on letting home owners in first, they are not allowed in till July 15 just cause we still work in the USA, excuses the permanent resident card holders.
You related or work for mayor?
Mexico Joe
Seahorse said:

The Mayor does care. He is doing his best to protect his community. After the horn goes off for curfew at 10pm they sanitize the streets. They had limited one person per car and to enter stores. $2600 peso fines for not wearing masks, if you can’t pay jail time. Barricaded the town before Santa Semana to protect the community. The people that live here have been basically quarantined since March other than essentials such as groceries or doctor appts. We had few covid cases. The mayor is opening up in phases. He allowed home owners in first, after that 5 new cases. Now tourists with reservations 10 new cases. This past week has been a shit show with the tourists. Swimming in the ocean, not wearing their masks in public places. I saw an employee ask two people to be 6 feet a part and the man went off on the employee. Do the tourists realize the hoops the city went thru to open up. All businesses, employees had to take classes and get certified. All homes, condos need to be sanitized with a certificate. If new cases continue to spike the Mayor will shut the city down again. They DO NOT have the medical facilities for a large out break. Majority of the locals are following the rules.


Big fan of town. Big fan of mayor. Big fan of science. This has turned into an unreasonable experiment in which we went from risk mitigation to all out complete prevention. Complete prevention is impossible. With that as the standard we will fail.
playaperro
Petrose said:

Chuck is still kicking? He's got to be hording beads instead of toilet paper.

Don't do bike week anymore, got a bit to rowdy one occasion.
Seahorse
playaperro said:

Perfect third person point of view but you are wrong on letting home owners in first, they are not allowed in till July 15 just cause we still work in the USA, excuses the permanent resident card holders.
You related or work for mayor?
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