Wierd scene coming into Rocky Point today.

dry heat

dry heat

Pigeon coup coordinator
Joe, what is the probability of an American Tourist being killed in Sandy Beach (ok all of Penasco if that statistic is easier to put together)? How many american tourists have been killed in Penasco over the last 10 or 20 years. Since we are on the topic of probability, is an american at greater risk of dying from an ATV accident, drowning, choking on a taco, or drinking the water at Gua Gua's? Curious how death by cartel violence compares to other deaths based on probability for said American Tourist visiting the beach area. In my opinion, comparing the probability of an American tourist being killed by an act of cartel violence is about the same as the probability of someone being shot at a movie theatre in the US (again, using probability). Unless you are a klan member watching a movie in downtown Detroit.
 
Mexico Joe

Mexico Joe

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dry heat said:
Joe, what is the probability of an American Tourist being killed in Sandy Beach (ok all of Penasco if that statistic is easier to put together)? How many american tourists have been killed in Penasco over the last 10 or 20 years. Since we are on the topic of probability, is an american at greater risk of dying from an ATV accident, drowning, choking on a taco, or drinking the water at Gua Gua's? Curious how death by cartel violence compares to other deaths based on probability for said American Tourist visiting the beach area. In my opinion, comparing the probability of an American tourist being killed by an act of cartel violence is about the same as the probability of someone being shot at a movie theatre in the US (again, using probability). Unless you are a klan member watching a movie in downtown Detroit.
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DRY HEAVE, obviously you're missing the point. What I'm saying is the people that respond with the BS about getting shot in a movie theater or shot in a school or carjacked. You're an idiot if you keep pointing out that these things can happen to you in the US and that RP is much safer than the US because of these aforementioned circumstances. I'm not denying that RP is safe. That's not what I was commenting on. This is a typical cheerleader comment, "Yes RP is safe, look at the US, there are school shootings and movie theater shootings and carjackings, that doesnt happen in RP...". All Im saying is that it is invalid and lame if you respond to how safe RP is with, look at what happens in America on a daily basis.

I was just putting it into perspective that yes these things occur but NO, ITS NOT PROBABLE
 
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Rick S

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that's what I used to say too, Todd.

But helicopter gunships don't open up with mini 50 cal's in populated tourist areas in the U.S.

If you have never heard-seen one of these, it's the craziest $#& you'll ever hear, or see. Guaranteed...

The light in the parking lot right below us was hit.....bullets were flying.
 
Kenny

Kenny

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Rick S said:
But helicopter gunships don't open up with mini 50 cal's in populated tourist areas in the U.S.
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Unless you're Black of course..http://tracesofreality.com/2013/05/14/28-years-ago-the-philadelphia-police-department-bombed-and-burned-a-city-block/
In 1985 the group made national news when police dropped a bomb on the Osage house from a helicopter in an attempt to end an armed impasse. The explosion and ensuing fire killed 11 people, including five children and the group's leader, John Africa. Only two occupants survived—Ramona, an adult and Birdie, a child. In addition, approximately 60 other (non MOVE-affiliated) homes were destroyed as the entire block burned.

OK, leave out the "tourist".
 
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mis2810

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So then they're just saying the US government took him so that they don't look like total shmucks. He's either still alive, or his own guys stole the body. I'll bet he's still alive and they never even got him in the first place.
 
Kenny

Kenny

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mis2810 said:
So then they're just saying the US government took him so that they don't look like total shmucks. He's either still alive, or his own guys stole the body. I'll bet he's still alive and they never even got him in the first place.
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That'a as good a guess as any.
 
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ADR

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surfcaster said:
Hi everyone! I thank all who posted info on this event. As one who just comes 3 or 4 times a year and goes further south most of those trips, this hasn't changed anything for me. I think the media has gone full "Boy who cried wolf" when it comes to Penasco. Most of the past "is it safe" flurries followed incidents that had little or nothing to do with Rocky Point. When something actually happens? One day coverage and back to our local shootings of the day. One of those local shootings a week ago involved one of my offspring as "wounded by gun shot and taken to the hospital." This was at a friend's apartment in a nice complex in Tempe. One young man was killed by the nut bag that shot my loved one. I am coming back to Penasco as soon as I can make it. I would take my adult children and their little tiny ones without hesitation. That being said, what went down on Sandy Beach was pretty crazy and real scary for all those nearby. You guys have kept Stuart really busy and he has not put down his whistle or taken off the striped shirt since the bullets flew. Play nice. Take care and stay safe on both sides of the fence.

Tom the surfcaster
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My son's car got stolen last year, at gunpoint, right in front of our work, which is 7th ave and McDowell, Phx. (Busy area). Helicopters found him on the freeway, since a blue striped mustang is easy to spot. They got the guy in Glendale, running into a stash house, and found a dozen or so illegals.
He was shaken up, but he didnt stop going to work, or parking his car, etc..
Shit happens, you have to live your life for yourself, and not in fear of others, otherwise, why ever leave the house?
 
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Mexico Joe said:
How ignorant are some of you? I can't stand this America is much more dangerous argument anymore! Some of the people on this forum need a lesson on PROBABILITY. Using statistics allows us to calculate PROBABILITY. I'm sick of hearing the, "you still go to the movies right? You still send your kids to school right? " argument from the cheerleaders. Someone mentioned that they will continue to go to Mexico and then stated why it's so dangerous to live in the US because of movie theater shooting, school shooting and even CARJACKING. Ok, ya'll are starting to get carried away. Fear mongering is the new sales pitch to why RP is safe. Let me tell you something about PROBABILITY.

Let's take carjacking as an example. I have been riding in a car for 29 years. Let's assume for the sake of finding a reasonable PROBABILITY that I've ridden in a vehicle once a day for 29 years. 29(365)=10,585 Now let's see the daily percentage (daily chance) of getting carjacked. 1/10585=.0000944733

I also loved the comment about how drug users caused this and if people would just stop using drugs we wouldnt have things like this happen. That is got to be the most IGNORANT comment I have ever read/heard.
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My son was carjacked at gunpoint, as i posted earlier, and I have had 2 cars and one motorcycle stolen, and once had a break in, all in Phoenix. Never had a car stolen in Mexico, never had a break in, in my 19 years of going to Penasco at least 4 times a year, (at least 12 times a year lately) and I do not live in Snottsdale, I live in the hood, or so I am told.
Just sayin'
 
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