playaperro
El Pirata
This has been discussed many times about the many ways to enter the property and they have been boobby trapped, riza...
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Rocky Point Crime: Are we there yet?
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lagrimas85
AKA Carnac
Mucha Riza, JaJaJa I should be saying OOOOOOPPAAAAAAAA as your Uncle Billy dances and breaks plates. That was my very first post 4 days ago about the residents of Las Conchas.
playaperro
El Pirata
hey you think the poor bastards are eating in jail...someone take take them a gyro...oh the place is closed!
lagrimas85
AKA Carnac
ooooooppaaaaaaaaaaaa Beware of Trojan Horse's OOOOOOOOOOOPPAAAAA
moore_rb
Stay Thirsty My Friends
Great point. Let's all get real here:
Guards and gates can not (and will not) prevent crime. What guards and gates do is increase inconvenience, making external criminals more likely to go expend their efforts elsewhere, where it is easier to get in and out of; but guards can not prevent interaction (even criminal interaction) amongst the "residents" of a community, any more than having more cops can reduce crime in Rocky Point (or anywere else) as a whole...
Assigning any blame or responsibility for crime to the guards (or cops) is silly.
The lessons of human history (5000 years worth) teach us that there are 2 effective ways to reduce crime in a community:
1) Promote free will, economic freedom, education, and judicial balance among a population that maintains the personal right to arm and defend itself (like the early American colonies did)
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2) Oppress the population under the constant threat of excessive violence and/or death by an active "government" as the consequence of criminal behavior.
It is not mere coincidence that the territories conquered by Ghenghis Khan had some of the lowest recorded crime rates in history once they were under the control of the warlords.
There was no crime because everyone lived every minute in fear of being beheaded for making a wrong move. Zen and YinYang are extremely efficient in stripping empathy out of the equation when it comes time to decide whose timer gets to keep ticking, and whose timer is expired...
As a human society, we are closing in on the moment that we (as an entire species) will have to CHOOSE which system we prefer to exist within.
I will choose free will, and I will live with the possibility of crime as a necessary cost of my freedom.
playaperro
El Pirata
Think present day Robert, look who is running the country, the president or Chapo, i'm more into Mex history Pancho Villa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
lagrimas85
AKA Carnac
You are welcome, Perry....Mason that is, did you figure out yet how there are 100 ways into Las Conchas without going thru the gates? Me, I would arrive by boat.
lagrimas85
AKA Carnac
Mega Millions Official Home Dang it Roberto, I put the envelope to my head and had the numbers for you, but I got busy pruning my trees and forgot to call you. Thanks Carnac Dont ask for them this week, I am going to be busy, plugging up entries into Las Conchas. That probably will take more than a week. OOOOOppAAAAAAA
JGattheSea
PIF Puerto Peñasco
send help!!!!!!!! no wait just send beer and food ... I'm staying a few more days! the bodies should be washing up on sandy beach anyday now cuz Rick from Fox says so ....waiting waiting waiting.... oh hell maybe its in old port guess I have to go to Flavios or somewhere since Boo Bar is closed till next month ....LOL
PitiquitoRosy
Guest
Wahoo, I'm curious to know where you got that there were two gangs fighting for turf in Rocky Point. Nothing credible that I've read or heard indicates that. In fact, I don't believe it. I gave you guys straight answers, and others on this forum who have some knowledge also said nothing to that effect. The only mention of that was the former DEA guy, Colson...who knows nothing and is simply guessing. He also, by the way, indicated that it might've been a purging of the ranks from within. Then you go on to name groups who've not been associated with this incident.
And by the way, cops killing bad guys is usually not described as a massacre.
Roberto
Guest
Of course your stories are similar. But they are just your stories. The point that you seem to ignore is that YOU DO NOT KNOW what happend. You are prone to wild speculation and thoughtless remarks. The facts are not all in yet, but you are confident that you know. Oye, Carnac is this guy in training with you? Sorry but that was an inflammatory, mindless and dumb comment that serves no purpose.
lagrimas85
AKA Carnac
No Roberto, Carnac doesn't miss.......
PitiquitoRosy
Guest
Wow...you're all over the map with this post. I never disputed that those involved were associated with a cartel. I said you named groups that had nothing to do with it, or with Penasco. The players were well-known. You want to take that connection and tie it to Chicago and to your statistics (mingled with your own math) on drug smuggling? Go for it. I'm staying on-topic. As posted in my statement on another thread, a renegade band was veering way off the path and committed several crimes that were unacceptable to those within and outside their group. They were dealt with. Some would like you to think that the victims of the crimes somehow brought this on themselves, but to allow that to go uncorrected would be to further victimize them.
By the way..."grupos delictivos" can refer to two factions from within the same organizaton. Look it up in Oxford's
PitiquitoRosy
Guest
So you go into Edit, modify the names of the cartels you're spouting and you think it'll make a difference? Still wrong, Dude.
PitiquitoRosy
Guest
Wahoo, I'm directing this to you, but it isn't written for you. I'd doubt you'd get it, so please step out of the way now.
To everyone else: I posted earlier about those who want us to believe they know more than they do. This is EXAMPLE A. Grabbing for the dictionary in an effort to justify using inflammatory words that will help him compare Rocky Point to Chicago during Prohibition? Police kill bad guys, losing one of their own in the process and he first calls it a massacre and now a murder?
Okay, Wahoo...this part is for you: You should worry more about what your ranting 'tells others about you'. Don't look now, but your ego and your agenda are showing.
Roberto
Guest
Well, you still don't get it. Sorry about that. I"d rather get it accurate than half as#e. What's the problem with that? How does it help matters to jump on something with inflammatory analogies and incomplete information? Admitting you know nothing then summarizing, elaborating and repeating a lot of stuff others have said isn't helpful, is it? Acting on incomplete and inaccurate information is just as bad as acting on no information, maybe worse. People want to know mostly for the purpose of predicting, anticipating, future events. The violence that occurred was in the past. I am sitting here in Penasco and it's a typical quiet Sunday, nothing obvious going on in the present. Does this past violence predict more in the future? That's the concern I think. Relax, Carnac is working on it, so is Rosie.
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aprilsuzanne55
BeachGirl
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Oh, come on - you can't do that to us! LOL
aprilsuzanne55
BeachGirl
Sorry! I have been in town for a week and I was going to comment on some of the "inside information" I have heard regarding the home invasion and in town shooting, but then I decided it is just rumors and although I trust the locals here that told me what they know, it does not mean it is true, so I am declining to spread any more rumors.
We are having a great time in PP this week, the weather and the beach are beautiful, everyone is friendly and the town feels safe as always to me.