New atv/trailer/suv rules at the 21km stop coming soon to Sonoyta?

jerry

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From the SanCarlos Forum but paperwork may be getting tougher for us too in the near future.
"Greetings,

I wanted to pass along our experiences at K21 yesterday regarding the new bonding process. It was a nightmare, to say the least, that lasted 2 1/2 hours. The process getting our 6 month FMM's renewed was short with no problems noted.

We had read the information about the bonds on both boards and thought we were prepared to deal with it. Hindsight tells us that we should have researched the process further. As normal, we bring our two ATV's down to San Carlos on a trailer pulled by a SUV.

We were "passed and forth" between four different agents at K21 none of whom could agree on exactly what documents were required with the new process. This is what we ended up needing (at
Of course our situation is a bit different but a friend had trouble at Sonoyta recently bringing a ATV in his truck...they wanted "original" docs....
least on this particular day) to get our bonding permit:

1.) The ORIGINAL title documents for the SUV, ATV's and the trailer
2.) The ORIGINAL license registration for the SUV, ATV's and the trailer
3.) The ORIGINAL proof of insurance for the SUV, ATV's and the trailer (we buy our insurance online and had to convince the agents we only had copies)
4.) Passport
5.) Drivers license
6.) New FMM

The agents insisted on needing to see the "ORIGINAL's" of the documents. You will also need to provide them copies of the listed documents. You should bring these with you so you don't have to pay 50 cents per copy at K21.

The cost was $450 US. Our SUV is a 2007 and at the top of the range in bonding cost ($400). We're not exactly sure where the additional $50 comes into play perhaps it was the trailer. We checked this morning and our MasterCard account was charged with these costs. You are given a sticker to put in the center of your windshield. The only vehicle noted on the paperwork is our SUV. The paperwork said the SUV must be taken back across the border within 6 months. The ATV's and trailer must also be attached or the entire bond will be forfeited.

We hope this gives you some idea of what you can expect. It was really troubling that the agents had no consistent clue on how the process worked. Secondly, none of the agents spoke English nor do we speak Spanish which made the situation even worse. Signage in English explaining the process would be a big help. We visited with several other travelers with the same problems as ours who had no idea about the new process before they arrived at K21. They were not "happy campers." The new bonding process may be necessary but it is being communicated and managed poorly. We hope others do not encounter the same problems. It was definitely not a "no hassle" zone yesterday.
 
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jerry

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Sorry my comment at the top didn't make it...this post was taken from the San Carlos forum but i have a friend who was crossing at Lukeville and was asked for the origonal papers on his ATV.....They may be getting ready to inforce tougher standards at Luleville too for trailers.boats and offroad stuff.In Az ATV prices have soared and a guy i know that is in the biz told me Mexican guys are buying them up..Money laundering is his guess.
sorry, I am a little confused. Are you sating at the 21 Kilometer post going to to Rocky Point?
 

Stuart

Aye carumba!!!
Staff member
This is south of Nogales at the 21km stop and it's ALWAYS been a pain in the ass. Got a Temporary Import Permit (TIP) for my boat there a couple years back and it was a similar experience as described above. Only had a copy of the title for the trailer and that was a huge hassle. Finally got the inspector to walk out to the trailer and verify the serial number stamped on the tongue was the same as on the copy. And 2 hours is about what it took.

So much for the "Hassle-free" zone.
 

Terry C

Guest
Years ago at Lukeville I brought in an ATV with a copy only of the title. They told me i need the original but, I could get a permit for $20.00. Where do I get that I asked. He put his hand out and said here. He walked away for a minute and another guy came up and i gave him the $ 20.00. He looked the same as the other guy. The other guy got pissed because he didnt get the permit money. They said you can go now.........
 

mexicoruss

Lovin it in RP!
It sounds to me that they are trying to stem the flow of stolen ATVs into the interior of Mexico. I think regarding the insurance policy that a print made from your online purchase is considered original. I have story to tell about paperwork buy will post it in a new post!
 
They are trying to stop stolen atvs coming from the US into Mex because people
are using them to cross weed into the US, that's why atvs market went up in PHX.
 
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