Las Palomas update?
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curiousgeorge
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This is a far more reasonable position, however it is just not entirely consistent with the message coming out of the TC group. Recently, someone even suggested that the SC will be limiting the number of guests days that all owners can have, including those that do not rent. Next thing you know, the SC might propose that owners cannot bring their coolers to the pool.
If the SC can remain focused on the big issues, most importantly recouping the HOA fees for the resort, maybe the owners can remain (mostly) unified....
dry heat
Pigeon coup coordinator
1. WWG does not have to pay anyone, they can do as they please without the support of a single owner. either remove them by majority vote or attempt to negotiate a settlement. If you are so hungry for action, I suggest you get your ass up and get a hold of 75% of your fellow owners and vote them out. I wish you the best of luck, I am sure you don't think a conspiracy exists that would involve WWG secretly paying 75% of your fellow neighbors.
2. Bylaws of the HOA will never allow more than 1 rental agency. for the time being the operator is paying owners their rental income (since feb. 1st). hopefully sometime this year we will have a new operator. hopefully we will also have a negotiated settlement that will pay owners past rental income owed and pay the HOA for past dues owed.
3. we also have heard about owners "bribing" the operator (unfortunately I have seen this in many places). the owners who did this where eventually found out about and the employee was warned.
4. an owner can reap the benefits of finding their own renter by having increased rental nights and even keeping 100% of the rental for any amount over the minimum rental rate (ex. many ground floor units charge more than the lowest rate and keep 100% of these funds). Yes, I know past income is still owed. At least the operator is paying current income moving forward. I am sure they also have lower expenses after removing over 70 employees from their staff.
Nothing is perfect. all we can do is attempt to fix the problem with the least damage to our investment. you have successful business men and women among the 15 or so SC members that probably have more in the game than most- thus they want the problem fixed just as much as any other owner.
The Secret Squirrels cannot LEGALLY limit the number of non paying guests anyone can have without the same vote necessary to change anything else.
Calm down Drywhatever,have a cocktail.
dry heat
Pigeon coup coordinator
The SC cannot limit the non paying guests an owner can have in their unit. However those that use their unit for rentals have a contract with the Operator that may give the operator permission to limit the "guest of owner" reservations. The only concern the HOA has or can control is if owners outside of the rental pool are renting their units, if so- a variety of restrictions or sanctions can be assessed. guest of owners will now have to check in and out with the lobby and must have a confirmation letter when they check in. owners must now present an owner id when they check in and out and must check in and out in person with the front desk. owners who don't have a rental contract with the operator and are found to be violating the rental bylaws of the HOA will be caught (a variety of ways are in place to find such owners).
thank you ernesto for your concern about me, I will certainly have a cocktail. I like your cute reference to secret squirrels- sounds very secretive and mysterious. DryHeat is just a reference to the dry heat in the Phoenix AZ area. however you can call me dry meat or dry whatever, both are fine with me- as long as it brings you happiness.
Mexico Joe
Cholla Bay 4 Life
Listen DICK, once again an irrational response. The four Resorts you list are top $ resorts and no that wouldnt go down there so I agree with you. However thats exactly why I didnt use those in my example you penis. You're way out of touch with reality if you believe that EMBASSY SUITES IS COMPARABLE TO MOTEL 6. The Embassy Suites at PV charges well over $200/night during peak season, as IN RIGHT NOW! I hardly call that A MOTEL 6. Embassy Suites is owned by Hilton and has HUNDREDS of TOP NOTCH RESORTS around THE WORLD. When you rebuke me, next time dont compare APPLES and ORANGES, RP to HAWAII or whatever other reasoning you can come up with that is irrational. 1000% correct that those 4 resorts wouldnt let you do that, "PROLLY" because they have the likes of movie stars and Presidents as guests. So why even bring that up? First of all, I have a pool at my house. Second, I know personally for a fact that you can do this at the Resorts I mentioned because I have personally done it. Thirdly, you dont have to worry about "JOE" taking your seat because luckily for you there's nobody there and plenty of seats to go around. This brings me back to another related BAD BUSINESS CHOICE AT LAS PALOMAS. They originally had plans to make the LP LINKS COURSE PRIVATE, lets see how that worked out, OOOOO WAIT IT DIDNT. Ive been playing golf my whole life and worked in the golf industry solomente since I was 16. THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HOLY HELL THAT A COURSE IN RP COULD GO PRIVATE, you know why? Theres not enough BUSINESS. Same goes for LP in general, when you have to lay off 200 employees because you cant pay them maybe its time to start letting people use the facility. What if a guest wanted to use the facility and was willing to pay a guest fee for a ONE DAY WRISTBAND? Once again the only reason I bring this up is because sometimes you have to roll with the punches, times are bad, IMPROVISE, ADAPT, DARWIN E CHING mother FUCKER. How is trying to spend MONEY and talking about BUSINESS PRACTICE THIS WHOLE THREAD related to SOCIALISM?! Wouldn't that be CAPITALISM?! You must be a MICHELLE BACHMANN FAN RIGHT?! LOL, now thats 1000% guaranteed! Lastly, I dont think Im entitled to anything, nor do I feel a sense of entitlement of the LP POOL, Im just in awe of the businesses in RP that DONT LIKE MAKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AZ ROB
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I would love to see proof of this or is this just someone talking without any proof?
Roberto
Guest
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Better to give me the money because at least one of us will be happy.
Las Palomas's story that they were ripped off by cheaters is yet another illogical argument. So you were ripped off. Your response is to steal the rental income from everyone who played nice with you?
And to top it off, the Secret Squirrels buy into the theory.
Who in their right mind would jump back in bed with these arrogant asses and say "they're paying on all reservations since the beginning of February". Are you f-ing insane?
If you can't see that this defies logic, you deserve to be suckered. But step the f down and quit purporting to represent the rest.
And to top it off, the Secret Squirrels buy into the theory.
Who in their right mind would jump back in bed with these arrogant asses and say "they're paying on all reservations since the beginning of February". Are you f-ing insane?
If you can't see that this defies logic, you deserve to be suckered. But step the f down and quit purporting to represent the rest.
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So you wanna know what is really hurting the resort. WWGs bad business practices, that's what.Sober up Secret Squirrels! Stop trying to manipulate everyone else to your benefit. Could never say this on the official Secret Squirrel website or you would be chastised and sent to bed without dinner. then banned. Grow the F up. Nice that we can have this little dustup with one of them ( Dryheat) without the retribution bullshit. And speaking of Dryheat, see if you can read and process this without your constant need to have the last word. I don't argue with everything you say. It's not about being right.
Do you see you have no allies here?
And the support for your friends is dwindling. Rightfully so. Their motives are painfully obvious. Look at how they dominate Craigslist.Don't they have a rule about constantly reposting to move your listing to the top? Cheaters.
Where are your friends? Making more Kool Aid?
Do you see you have no allies here?
And the support for your friends is dwindling. Rightfully so. Their motives are painfully obvious. Look at how they dominate Craigslist.Don't they have a rule about constantly reposting to move your listing to the top? Cheaters.
Where are your friends? Making more Kool Aid?
dry heat
Pigeon coup coordinator
Ernesto, when you foreclose on your unit I may be interested in buying it from the bank at a discount.
as I have said countless times, the situation is being resolved by having a new rental operator and a new HOA administration company (hopefully this year). In addition to having a settlement agreement on debt owed to owners and the HOA. I still don't understand your rant. what do you want? do you have a different solution? if your concern is owners being able to rent on their own without a rental company, that will never happen. If you have a different concern or solution, please share. what exactly do you want to see happen that has not already been shared? we know wwg had bad business practices and we have agreed that we need a new operator and administrator- no one is arguing with you on that, thus I am confused as to what you want. If you are unhappy about owners that "unblocked" their unit from being rented, well you might want to bring up your issues with your fellow neighbors since only 30% of them blocked the units after the sc recommended it. The point about cheaters affecting the system, that is true. for years the HOA did not enforce the rental rules. no one is defending the operator that kept income from owners, that is the reason why we are looking to replace them. thus I don't know what else you want?
as I have said countless times, the situation is being resolved by having a new rental operator and a new HOA administration company (hopefully this year). In addition to having a settlement agreement on debt owed to owners and the HOA. I still don't understand your rant. what do you want? do you have a different solution? if your concern is owners being able to rent on their own without a rental company, that will never happen. If you have a different concern or solution, please share. what exactly do you want to see happen that has not already been shared? we know wwg had bad business practices and we have agreed that we need a new operator and administrator- no one is arguing with you on that, thus I am confused as to what you want. If you are unhappy about owners that "unblocked" their unit from being rented, well you might want to bring up your issues with your fellow neighbors since only 30% of them blocked the units after the sc recommended it. The point about cheaters affecting the system, that is true. for years the HOA did not enforce the rental rules. no one is defending the operator that kept income from owners, that is the reason why we are looking to replace them. thus I don't know what else you want?
curiousgeorge
Guest
So, you say that will never happen because you know how every owner would vote or because the SC would never allow it for a vote because they arrogantly know what is best for everyone else? WWG cannot vote right now.....so maybe the idea of allowing owners to rent on their own without a rental company should be added to the next HOA meeting. I suspect it may get quite a few votes.
Come on Dry. read what I wrote, or read it again. You're an educated man.And who really cares what the "SC" recommends anymore. Read my last few posts and step down.You walk around all the issues and address only those that benefit you.Read it again . It's clear.
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dry heat
Pigeon coup coordinator
Some bylaws require 75% of the undivided ownership group in order to change. for example: replacing the existing administrator and no longer requiring only one rental agency on premise. This has nothing to do with voting rights, this has to do with % of ownership. The developer owns 20% in phase 1 and 23% in phase 2, this means that in order to change certain bylaws within the covenants it would require over 90% of the rest of the owners (not those present but 90% of the total owners to show up and all agree to pass the motion). Maybe you can see why we have to work with the developer for an amicable solution.
dry heat
Pigeon coup coordinator
My dear tontito, I never said I did not know Ben. I only made a remark as to why you speak about him so much, I think I made a reference to you dating him or him dumping you or something like that- maybe you can find it.
We are restricted by what we can and cannot do (see sonoran law, federal law, bylaws, voting rights, etc.) good thing your emotional unbalanced self is not leading things- you would certainly not get a thing done with saying what you want and how you want it- while neglecting or not paying attention to the process of actually achieving something (more like think with your head and not with your heart).