Police activity on Sandy Beach Road
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Roberto
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Well that's not quite the way I see it anyway. It's more like you grow up and work if you can, no car, get married, have a couple of children and can't take care of them cause there is no work. Kids are hungry, need shoes, out trying to wash cars all day. There is NO public assistance. Friend of a friend says you can make $1,000, just walk and carry a pack. Kids are hungry, need shoes.....love your wife dearly but she suffers with no money, CFE wants a payment....what would you do? People from the US cannot seem to understand the crushing poverty here in Mexico. "There are NO jobs" in the states usually means no jobs that pay well but Walmart or McDonalds is almost always hiring, a person can find SOMETHING. Here, No jobs means just that, none, nunca, nada, nada.
If my kids were cryng because they are hungry, I'd be packin and walkin, what would you do?
InkaRoads
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Roberto, I do agree with you, it is very different to be a tourist and come and go nth times a month or year to enjoy the place you are visiting even if it is the same place, it is very different to live and see the life as it unravels in front of you in a daily basis and understand what it is to be living in a third world country.
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Snicker!
Absolutely. Gonna be a big bad gangsta in the 'hood. The most idiotic thing in the world is when well-to-do white kids from the 'burbs try to act all gangsta. If they had any idea of just how stupid they look with the saggin' pants, sports jersey, and hat on sideways, talkin' like their best homeys are all from the hood and flashing gang signs. My teenage nephew stopped by this summer with the in-laws dressed and acting like this. I immediately picked his happy young ass up, gangsta clothes and all, and into the pool he went. He hasn't been back since; I can't understand why.
moore_rb
Stay Thirsty My Friends
Winner winner, chicken dinner!
Thank You Kenny. Without going too far off the rails- I've been there. Having been fortuante enough to live the "privileged" gringo lifestyle, and also having spent years in a home where the former "breadwinner" was dying of cancer while the former "Homemaker" worked as a clerk at a used car lot just to keep pasta and ketchup in the house.
and Roberto's point about desperation is also very well taken...
All of these conditions (people at the brink of desperation driven there by poverty, and kids growing up wanting to emulate "criminals") is all simply a mater of perspective.
Legality (and technicality) is the only factor that determines that someone is a criminal. If the drugs were not illegal in the north, then the cartels would not have nearly the monopoly on production that they do (because Mexico AND the US are both over-flowing with qualified farmers just looking for something to grow and harvest).
so, remove the law against dope, and every ethical person who is impoverished in Mexico (those who are doing their best to abide by the laws) could suddenly go back to work growing, manufacturing, and shipping with no fear of legal retribution.
Roberto's example of the deperate father being bribed into carrying the backpack would fly out the window, because:
1) The cartel guys could carry thier OWN backpacks, since the shipping and logistics would be allowed out and into the open
2) The desparate father could get a LEGITMATE job growing product (or whatever)
this, in turn, increases the global supply of dope, thereby reducing prices in the free market. As prices fall, addicts will (naturally) consume more and probably drop dead sooner, leaving a market flush in available supply countered by increasingly diminished demand over time...
and the "problem" eventually solves itself.
The drug trade is a perfect example of how legitimate commerce yields benefit to humanity- only it is bastardized by those who seek to impose their morality over others, and by those who wish to maintain control of those things which are uncontrollable (like human nature)....
And no, I've never done drugs, nor would I ever choose to (except maybe when I'm old and bored
), but I'd be the first to invest in the stock of a legitimate street narcotic company once the laws were changed...
playaperro
El Pirata
A A anyone?
cholla
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Hey Mr. bad JuJu, welcome to the Kenny and Jerry show. Its liberals with a twist of holier than thou. You will remember from your school days, you know, there is always one kid in classs that knows better than everyone else. You had em there, we got em here. See you this weekend in Penasco.:woo:
Kenny
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And always a conservative without a mind of his own, with little tidbits like these.
Your a real sweetheart John, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate your attentiveness, and pot stirring. :-D
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dmcauley
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Maybe you guys want to give me crap also but this guy is saying nothing that should invoke any anger from this forum.
Those of us who frequent RP regularly don't have the fear level of occasional visitors to a different country anymore and don't take the cops crap.
RP is getting to be safer every day and the cops don't seem to be robbing the gringoes lately yet we all know this guy isn't spouting propaganda, only experience.
I warn visiting friends of the dangers of walking the streets late and where to avoid but not every one is as savvy as us regulars,
I read an interesting article from a frequent visitor in the RP times today and she declared uniquivically that there are no drug cartels in Penasco. This is good information for all of you folks, yes Russ, who wear blinders and seem to think that Penasco is the same as 20 years ago, but it's not, and it will never again be as safe as it once was. This is progress folks and it started w/ the condos and all the stuff that big money drags in
Who would have thought twenty years ago that calle trece would be the center of porn in one way or the other. I get tired of the hustling pimps selling there wares even when I'm with my wife and grand kids. My nickels worth.
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Kenny
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I made it clear that I'd looked back on his previous post's, and that I came back with the conclusion that it was a legit post, and that he knew Stuart.
That's hardly a attack Dan... As far as my joking about his bad Ju Ju, and not wanting to hang out with him because of it, well to bad if he can't take a little ribbing.
If you noticed he was also being a smart ass with his ending comments about Roberto, so it's not as if he didn't have a agenda.
Once more this guy is a victim, and instead of the perps being all the currupt cops, etc in PP, it's little old me.
There were two things, and besides the condos that made it clear to me things were going down hill. One the kid's started selling chicklets, and two, strip joints on calle 13.
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mexicoruss
Lovin it in RP!
Not sure why or if I got slammed boy, but you may want to reconsider your view of me, just sayin it as I see it as a full timer not a bystander....
dmcauley
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That statement shows that maybe you've got huevos, but sounds like it could be a threat Russ, All I am saying Russ is sometimes you sugarcoat things too much. I know it is your love of Mexico speaking but sheesh,there's some nasty stuff been going down.
Kenny, ded you see all the Rif raf coming off the trains while they were building? Crime went way up. Calle trece is out of control and people hardly walk the streets w/family any more. Even the chicle vendors don't let the kids go there. I am not trying to offend anyone, only defending strangers rights on this forum.
Kenny, ded you see all the Rif raf coming off the trains while they were building? Crime went way up. Calle trece is out of control and people hardly walk the streets w/family any more. Even the chicle vendors don't let the kids go there. I am not trying to offend anyone, only defending strangers rights on this forum.
Kenny
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I went back and read some and skimmed others of our bad Ju Ju's guy's previous threads before I made the statement that it seemed to be a legit post, and he knew Stuart. I surmised he was a big boy (sorry Dan LOL)and after his shot at Roberto, and I thought a little ribbing wouldn't bring him to tears...Like I said, his parting shot at Roberto showed that he was no innocent who was just here to tell his story again.
Ask Chuck especially, but the rest of our friends over in the parks too, how the rif raf that came to town changed their lives.
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Well, I'll post up here with some trepidation.....I have seen so much change since 1966....I was told quite recently that I should write a book, after telling a few of you some of my stories at one of our get-togethers..... When the money came in, it took off....I watched as the Mirador died, bawled like a baby when I was forced to move, watched as crime went up and now, these shootings.....All of you know that I am single and travel alone. I have changed 2 things about that in the last couple of years. I don't drive in Mexico at night any more, (well except this last time) and I was recently browbeaten by a few of you, you know who you are, into getting a Mexican cell phone so if I get stranded between Sonoyta and PP, I can call for help. I am still not afraid but I am mindful of my surroundings and don't go where I don't belong. If I go out at night, I am with other people and never walk anywhere. I am not a full time resident but come often enough to be able to have a feel for it. I still feel safe enough to come but I AM worried a little about what may happen in the future. This paradise has been a part of my life since I was 8 years old! 45 years! (I can't believe it either!) I don't know how I could live without it. But, for now, I feel safe enough to continue doing what I always have. My non Rocky Point loved ones have been giving me grief this last year and I just tell 'em, I'll let you know when it isn't safe anymore. I'll know.......