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bahiatrader
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Those are truly beautiful and well done photos. A lot of them could have come from my old neck of the woods. During salmon runs, osprey (fish hawk) and eagles were plentiful. I am reminded of seeing a bald eagle one time when I was fishing on the Rogue River in Oregon. It had it's talons hooked into a salmon that was too big to lift out of the water. As it floated by me, it would flap it's wings and struggle to lift the fish out of the water for a while and rest. It was still struggling with the salmon when it floated out of sight around the bend in the river below me. I've often wondered what the final outcome was.
Miguel Lasa has some beautiful photos on his site.
Miguel Lasa has some beautiful photos on his site.
Wood Spinner
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Unless the Eagle had the fortune to get to the shore it drowned. The Eagles claws are such that they catch but can not release a pray.
Wood Spinner
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I sure wish I knew where they were fishing!
Kenny
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I spent from 74-85 up in the Pacific Northwest and never saw a Eagle take any fish unless it was struggling near the surface. On the other hand, because of it's long legs and rotating rear talon the Osprey is a "true" fisherman.. Sorry, but I just can't let that old wifes tale about drowning bald eagle because they can't open their talon's alone any longer ...
"Once an eagle spots a fish swimming or floating near the surface of the water, it approaches its prey in a shallow glide and snatches the fish out of the water with a quick swipe of its talons. Eagles can open and close their talons at will. If an eagle is dragged into the water by a fish too large for the eagle to lift, it is because the eagle refuses to release it. In some cases this is due to hunger. An eagle might drown during the encounter with the fish or if it's unable to swim far enough to reach shore. The eagle can not fly again until it's out of the water, so it uses its large wings to swim. The eagle is a strong swimmer, but if the water is very cold, it may be overcome by hypothermia" http://www.baldeagleinfo.com/eagle/eagle3.html
"Once an eagle spots a fish swimming or floating near the surface of the water, it approaches its prey in a shallow glide and snatches the fish out of the water with a quick swipe of its talons. Eagles can open and close their talons at will. If an eagle is dragged into the water by a fish too large for the eagle to lift, it is because the eagle refuses to release it. In some cases this is due to hunger. An eagle might drown during the encounter with the fish or if it's unable to swim far enough to reach shore. The eagle can not fly again until it's out of the water, so it uses its large wings to swim. The eagle is a strong swimmer, but if the water is very cold, it may be overcome by hypothermia" http://www.baldeagleinfo.com/eagle/eagle3.html
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bahiatrader
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Thanks Kenny. Good info. I have a little experience with iggles. I've participated in a couple studies and helped with US Govt. bald eagle counts. I've released a few eagles from bobcat and coyote leg-hold traps. They do like carrion. One time I put my jacket over an eagle to calm it while I released it from a trap. It got it's head stuck in the sleeve, and I had to chase it across a couple hundred yards of lava flows before I got my jacket back.
I figured that eagle could have released the salmon, but I think he was pretty determined. I knew a Basque sheepherder who killed every eagle he saw because he saw them as a threat to his lambs. I didn't think that was right, but I never witnessed any interaction between eagles and lambs. I know a coyote has to be taught to kill sheep. A coyote that has never seen a sheep is afraid of it, possibly because the sheep is bigger. I have witnessed that. Birds of prey are beautiful even if they do eat rotten stuff.
I figured that eagle could have released the salmon, but I think he was pretty determined. I knew a Basque sheepherder who killed every eagle he saw because he saw them as a threat to his lambs. I didn't think that was right, but I never witnessed any interaction between eagles and lambs. I know a coyote has to be taught to kill sheep. A coyote that has never seen a sheep is afraid of it, possibly because the sheep is bigger. I have witnessed that. Birds of prey are beautiful even if they do eat rotten stuff.
Kenny
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Those Osprey are good, aren't they Ink? One in each claw, and that same look that I've seen on Ric's face.. :lol: You know, kind of crazed.. :eek3: 
There have been 3 places that I've shared with Osprey. I would always find them there, all coves. One in Washington St, another in New Mexico, and a place about a 1/4 mile past the last house in Cholla Bay, a secluded cove.The one in the cove around the corner from Cholla gets ticked when I show up and cusses me out in Spanish.. :mexico:
Kenny
P.S. Lava flow..Eastern Oregon? Wool for Pendleton Woolen Mills..Love those shirts.. :usa:
There have been 3 places that I've shared with Osprey. I would always find them there, all coves. One in Washington St, another in New Mexico, and a place about a 1/4 mile past the last house in Cholla Bay, a secluded cove.The one in the cove around the corner from Cholla gets ticked when I show up and cusses me out in Spanish.. :mexico:
Kenny
P.S. Lava flow..Eastern Oregon? Wool for Pendleton Woolen Mills..Love those shirts.. :usa:
InkaRoads
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They are amazing, however I am wondering now, they look almost like an eagle, are they related? same specie or breed, sorry for my ignorance but I do not know what you call/designate the different types of birds, I do know that they are birds of prey, do that means they are very religious? :eek3:
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bahiatrader
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An osprey is considered a hawk, by many, and grouped with the falcons because it has pointed wings. I've known it as a fish hawk, and I've heard it was also called an ocean hawk. They're a big hawk, I'm told that larger ones have wingspans approaching six feet. or nearly two meters. I've never seen one that big.
Most of my experience with ospreys which is observation only was on lakes in Central Oregon, and on the Oregon coast. The eagle I spoke of was on the Central Oregon Lava flows. I did teach in Pendleton one year in the 80s where I still have friends. I've been to The Pendleton Roundup which is nearly as famous as the Calgary Stampede among rodeo fans. I have traveled to Pendleton for small mouth bass. My mom used to buy Pendleton wool to make shirts for us on her treadle sewing machine. I was prouder of them than I was of the actual Pendleton shirts I owned. I agree, nice shirts. What does this have to do with Rocky Point except that there are ospreys in both places?
Most of my experience with ospreys which is observation only was on lakes in Central Oregon, and on the Oregon coast. The eagle I spoke of was on the Central Oregon Lava flows. I did teach in Pendleton one year in the 80s where I still have friends. I've been to The Pendleton Roundup which is nearly as famous as the Calgary Stampede among rodeo fans. I have traveled to Pendleton for small mouth bass. My mom used to buy Pendleton wool to make shirts for us on her treadle sewing machine. I was prouder of them than I was of the actual Pendleton shirts I owned. I agree, nice shirts. What does this have to do with Rocky Point except that there are ospreys in both places?
Kenny
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You ask what this all has to do with PP? :roll: I say, at least as much as a radio station.
Prineville reservoir for small mouths and Channel cats, and my Aunt also made me Pendleton shirts back in 63. That's when Surfers made them popular in S Cali.
Yep, round round get around, I got around.. :usa:
Kenny
Prineville reservoir for small mouths and Channel cats, and my Aunt also made me Pendleton shirts back in 63. That's when Surfers made them popular in S Cali.
Yep, round round get around, I got around.. :usa:
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bahiatrader
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I was stationed at Camp Pendleton during the surfer days. Marines weren't very popular among the local population back then. All of the beaches in SoCal were closed for the Alaskan earthquake but the Marine beaches at San Clemente and San Onofre. I got to surf the tsunami from that. What a ride! Surf boards have changed since then too. I have Johann Sebastian Bach softly playing on Pandora as I write. I now have Pandora Radio permanently pasted in my address bar. Thanks Kenny. I owe you for a little pleasantness in my life.
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bahiatrader
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Some of them may have. I sometimes felt like prostitute in a place of worship. One that was trained to kill at the drop of a hat, but... Them days are gone. These are the good old days.
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bahiatrader
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Wow. This is getting a long was ways from ospreys. Wasn't the trestles some kind of a reef or big wave area? We're talking over 40 years ago, man! I was never very good at it. I was lucky to make a ride all the way in. I sure had fun, and I liked looking at the girls. I refused to do that pinkie, thumb thing. I preferred the middle finger or the upraised forearm with a clenched fist. Those are pretty universal sign language not just limited to surfers. My buddy from Oregon came down to see me at Pendleton. He ended up selling his board for gas home and then his car for bus fare. After that money was gone, he joined the Navy, because I told him he wouldn't like the Marines. He ended up being a decorated seal, and he married my cousin when he came home. Now he's Cousin Larry.
I edited this because because I forgot to capitalize Marines. I could go to the theological place of eternal punishment for that. I am enjoying a mix of Beethoven, Bach and Rolling Stones on Pandora right now. Maybe I should see if my wife could find me some acid or 'shrooms at the casino. Do they even do that stuff anymore? Is that far enough off of the subject?
I edited this because because I forgot to capitalize Marines. I could go to the theological place of eternal punishment for that. I am enjoying a mix of Beethoven, Bach and Rolling Stones on Pandora right now. Maybe I should see if my wife could find me some acid or 'shrooms at the casino. Do they even do that stuff anymore? Is that far enough off of the subject?