Las Palomas update?

[Dr Howard]

Who said cheeting: I am an owner who HAS played 100% by the rules & have an accounts receivable of almost 10K to thank thos e bastards for. So take the 6 day thing and......................Hector/WWG

 

[dry heat]

Who said cheeting: I am an owner who HAS played 100% by the rules & have an accounts receivable of almost 10K to thank thos e bastards for. So take the 6 day thing and......................Hector/WWG

Sure. And why can't your "poor dad" come again? Is he restricted as a parent of the owner? Hmmm, maybe you should have said your "poor cousin".

 

[curiousgeorge]

Guys I understand the frustration, I know this will make it difficult to cheat the system and continue the cahs flow of unauthorized paying guests. I get it.

Honesty from Drymeat. The ends justify the means. Who cares about infringing on the entire resorts and all owners rights, making or bending rules? Who cares that all of RP is laughing at the owners of LP for playing into WWG's hands? The SC is singleminded in catching a few cheats! It will never be enough for you guys until you have fully turned over the whole resort to the management company and successfully created a hotel.

Any for profit Operator/partner needs checks and balances. Some audits and a healthy dose of skepticism. They do not need the only representatives of the resort conspiring with the operator to limit all owners rights.

You are the problem. Not WWG.

 

[curiousgeorge]

Dry Heat. Keep it coming. Almost 8,000 views to this thread. I am betting quite a few LP owners are reading this and are waking up.

Every post of yours is priceless...thanks!

Please do not stop.

 

[Dr Howard]

Ok........my dad does have a Lanyard......Lets say "Client" "Customer" "Neighbor" Good Friend Etc. Who is the entity that wants to limit who I offer MY home to; when no cash is involved???? Your answer is still like answer an ATTY might offer?

 

[curiousgeorge]

Guys I understand the frustration, I know this will make it difficult to cheat the system and continue the cahs flow of unauthorized paying guests. I get it.

Try and think Big Picture Dryheat. How many extra cheats to you think you are going to catch with this new 6 day rule? Aren't there enough rules already in place to catch the cheats?

Now how many owners, who had no problem with the other rules, are now pissed off? Kind of like not telling owners that they cannot bring coolers to the pool.

Think about it, WWG cannot even answer the phones for new rentals, how can you trust them to accurately manage this process? Will innocent owners now be inconvienced or even worse falsely accused?

Finally, how many owners will now buy at the Sonoran because of rules like this?

 

[ernesto]

Right on!

 

[Dr Howard]

Well now; maybe we can finally get the Owners back in the decision making process......& Dry Heave I said law abiding citizens NOT the cheaters

 

[dry heat]

Hopefully sooner than later we will have a new operator (amazing I keep saying that considering we work under the wing of the current operator, strange). In the meantime I understand that renting under the table will be difficult and prevent some owners from continuing as they please. Not problem and not mine or any owners to enforce. I am sure you guys will be excited for a new rental operator considering how much you dislike the current on, hopefully wish granted soon. In any case I am glad I have helped serve as a therapist for you guys and hope that you will smile tonight and enjoy life. Love and kisses

 

[curiousgeorge]

Hopefully sooner than later we will have a new operator (amazing I keep saying that considering we work under the wing of the current operator, strange). In the meantime I understand that renting under the table will be difficult and prevent some owners from continuing as they please. Not problem and not mine or any owners to enforce. I am sure you guys will be excited for a new rental operator considering how much you dislike the current on, hopefully wish granted soon. In any case I am glad I have helped serve as a therapist for you guys and hope that you will smile tonight and enjoy life. Love and kisses

You are the problem. Not WWG.

 

[jerry]

But don't all these extra renters spend money at the resort...maybe rent a better unit next time etc...the bargains bring in the new blood...

My poor lost soul. read what the TC/SC can do 1st and let us know what it says in the mexican bylaws for these two groups.
My guess is the Operator being cut away from 2m+ in lost rental income over the last 4 years due to owners renting outside of their contact would play a key in the latest enforcement. If you want to think that the problem is owners and not WWG, then I am really working with an idiot. In any case, go ahead and continue with me, I am sure it will get a lot accomplished for you.

 

[curiousgeorge]

My poor lost soul. read what the TC/SC can do 1st and let us know what it says in the mexican bylaws for these two groups.
My guess is the Operator being cut away from 2m+ in lost rental income over the last 4 years due to owners renting outside of their contact would play a key in the latest enforcement. If you want to think that the problem is owners and not WWG, then I am really working with an idiot. In any case, go ahead and continue with me, I am sure it will get a lot accomplished for you.

DryHeat pay attention:

Read the following excerpt from the WWG email announcing the new 6 day rule. Notice that WWG gives full credit to their partnership with the Tourist Committee in creating this new rule. Is WWG lying or are you not taking responsibility along with your fellow owners on the TC?

Both the Tourist Committee and the acting General Manager of WWG met this past weekend to address these ongoing issues and agreed to the following recommendation that will be in effect immediately.

1) GUEST OF OWNER STAYS ARE NOW A MAXIMUM OF 6 PER MONTH: OLP will accept and give service of front desk, keys, phone, cleaning and towels to a maximum of 6 nights per condominium per month, not exceeding 48 nights per year.

 

[jerry]

Curios George,Ernesto,Doc Howard etc.... Hey you guys should come down to Santo Tomas..get a small place built on a large lot for a fair price from honest guys...rent a big place when extra people visit...orange groves,fields of produce,grapes and olive trees...empty beaches and great sport fishing just down the coast...I think your dad can stay in your house as long as you can handle him too!
https://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/LasDunasSantoTomasMexico#

 

[dry heat]

You are the problem. Not WWG.

Ok

 

[dry heat]

But don't all these extra renters spend money at the resort...maybe rent a better unit next time etc...the bargains bring in the new blood...

Yes, however the answer is more complicated. non rental guests may spend at restaurants and pool bars. However, the income that could be coming in to the operator would help the operator produce a better product (ex. open up more restaurants, pay for improvements or updates, contribute more to the HOA in the form of rental impact fees.
I have not heard of a resort that allows individual owners to bypass the rental operator. That would be a logistic nighmare with 400+ unique rental operations setting their own pricing, standards, etc. I see why no other resort allows it, why would Las Palomas start?
The approved pricing owners can give is already lower than the other resorts along sandy beach, so I don't think pricing is a problem.

 

[dry heat]

DryHeat pay attention:

Read the following excerpt from the WWG email announcing the new 6 day rule. Notice that WWG gives full credit to their partnership with the Tourist Committee in creating this new rule. Is WWG lying or are you not taking responsibility along with your fellow owners on the TC?

Both the Tourist Committee and the acting General Manager of WWG met this past weekend to address these ongoing issues and agreed to the following recommendation that will be in effect immediately.

1) GUEST OF OWNER STAYS ARE NOW A MAXIMUM OF 6 PER MONTH: OLP will accept and give service of front desk, keys, phone, cleaning and towels to a maximum of 6 nights per condominium per month, not exceeding 48 nights per year.

Oh curiousgeorge, you need to find out the difference between the surveillance committee and the tourist committee. research, cut and paste exactly what each does and who they represent.
How about if I do the same... George why don't you take responsibility along with your fellow owners on the TC. Do you even know who is on the TC? do you know who is on the SC?
Have I ever said I represent the TC?

So, in the end as long as this is good therapy for you I am glad to play along. Just find it a waste of time for you, but I guess you prefer to type away your concerns. whatever helps heal the pain of not being able to rent on your own.

 

[dry heat]

Curios George,Ernesto,Doc Howard etc.... Hey you guys should come down to Santo Tomas..get a small place built on a large lot for a fair price from honest guys...rent a big place when extra people visit...orange groves,fields of produce,grapes and olive trees...empty beaches and great sport fishing just down the coast...I think your dad can stay in your house as long as you can handle him too!
https://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/LasDunasSantoTomasMexico#

Please, Please, Please. I am looking online to find out which god is more likely to grant wishes.

 

[ernesto]

He's absolutely right,dude.You are the problem.

 

[dry heat]

He's absolutely right,dude.You are the problem.

Awesome! we are making progress. Let it all out, you will feel much better. It's healthy not to keep things in. Next step is closure and moving on away from your problems. After that the healing begins with buying a home with no rules and regulations, a utopia for you to rent as you please, paint your house pink, or park your vehicle on the front yard. Ahhh, we can all dream.

 

[curiousgeorge]

Oh curiousgeorge, you need to find out the difference between the surveillance committee and the tourist committee. research, cut and paste exactly what each does and who they represent.
How about if I do the same... George why don't you take responsibility along with your fellow owners on the TC. Do you even know who is on the TC? do you know who is on the SC?
Have I ever said I represent the TC?

So, in the end as long as this is good therapy for you I am glad to play along. Just find it a waste of time for you, but I guess you prefer to type away your concerns. whatever helps heal the pain of not being able to rent on your own.

You are the master of trying to confuse things. I am VERY clear on all this.

And No you said " If you want to think that the problem is owners and not WWG". If I am not correct, the TC are the owners and they work very closely with the SC, especially the phase II SC. You know, the parts are interchangeable. Some TC members become SC members. Funny how that works.

And oh yes, I know who the SC is. All of the SC.