Fish issue

[mel150]

Hi, guys and gals, I thought I'd ask the experts about this- I have two questions about fish in the area.

1. Does anyone know if there are halibut or swordfish to be had (to buy, I mean)? Doesn't need to be now, just wondering if there's a season for my two favorite fish.
2. I've had some problems cooking sea bass the last three times. I'm buying from one of the guys down in the port, and he always sells me great flounder, but the three times I've bought sea bass I had one that was so chewy we had to throw it away, and two that upon contact with a hot pan just disintegrated into fish mush. In having a quick taste of it before we threw it away, the fish tasted fresh, just inedible because of texture. Anybody have any idea why, or have the same experience?

Thanks! Although I'm not a fisher-person myself, I have friends coming who are, so I keep up with this forum. Great advice and stories.

 

[Kenny]

The "chewy" Sea Bass was probably a big old Black. The other fish? I don't know what it could be.

Kenny

Hey SALLY, go ask HAPPY about that mushy fish. It sounds like it would be right up his alley.. :lol:

Kenny

 

[bahiatrader]

I don't know about the chewy or the mushy sea bass. One problem being there are a few different species that can be sold as sea bass. I have criteria when I buy fish from a market, which I seldom do, but I love to eat fish. I get the butcher to let me poke it with something to check the texture, after I smell it. If it smells the least bit "fishy", that means it has begun to decay, or has been in contact with or close to decaying fish. Fresh fish has very little odor, and what it does have is a light, not unpleasant odor to me. The linguado or halibut caught out of Rocky Point is actually a flounder, but it's darn good eating anyway. The texture of Pacific Halibut is actually a little firmer, but maybe that's because all the Pacific Halibut I've brought home is larger and probably older than the linguado I've had from the Sea of Cortez. I was once told that "imitation" crab is actually hake or cod that has been soaked in crab entrails (guts is what he actually said). A commercial fisherman in the Pacific Nothwest told me that. It don't taste bad anyway. I won't eat that if it has a fishy smell either.

 

[HAPPY]

Hey Kenny, ___ YOU @#$%ER HAPPY says that you know what you can do with your mushy fish, ___ PUT IT UP YOUR, ___ ALLEY, ___ :lol: :lol: :lol: ___ AYE CABRON, ___ :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[mel150]

Ok, I am a fish-poker from now on, lol. Linguado, huh? I'll have to see if I can find it. What's a "Big Ol' Black"?

 

[Kenny]

Ok, I am a fish-poker from now on, lol. Linguado, huh? I'll have to see if I can find it. What's a "Big Ol' Black"?

Black Sea Bass.. This time of year some very large 100lb -200 plus fish are caught and the most commom word used for the eating of those big older fish is tough, chewy etc.


Oh boy! look at that, I caught a HAPPY..LOL Way to easy, do you think he will become endangered? He does seem to come and go, doesn't he.. :lol:

 

[dmcauley]

[attachment=0]black 250-300 lbs.jpg

This is a black sea bass we caught on Suarts boat this weekend

 

[HAPPY]

~~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: ~~~

 

[HAPPY]

~~~ THAT SURE LOOKS LIKE THE FISH I SAW THEM TAKING OUT OF THE NETS FROM THAT SHRIMP BOAT YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUND, ~~~ & I SAW THEM LOADING IT ONTO A WHITE PRO CAT, ~~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: ~~~ HERE ~~~ :fish: Y :fish: Y :fish: Y, ~~~

 

[HAPPY]

~~~ Hey Kenny, quit running for cover, ~~~ the ~~~ WHOLE WORLD, ~~~ Saw me put the HOOK to you & run it up your ~~~ ALLEY ~~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: , like a 100 times before, ~~~ you better go back to ~~~ FAIRY BEACH ~~~ where you can run around without your, ~~~ PANTIES, ~~~ with the rest of your fairy pals, ~~~ you know like in the pic. ~~~ that you showed to the WHOLE WORLD, ~~~ the one that you turned ~~~ AROUND, ~~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: , ~~~ ACHI, ACHI, ACHI, ~~~ You better quit messing with ~~~ HAPPY ~~~ you no competition, ~~~

HERE ~~~ :fish: Y :fish: Y :fish: Y,

 

[Kenny]

To late amigo..You may slither like a snake and squirm like a worm, but you were hooked :shock: and hooked GOOD!

Kenny, AKA BIGFISH!

 

[bahiatrader]

Another way to tell if fish are fresh or not: If you look at their eye and it is clear and shiny it's fresh. If it starts to look hazy or sinks in, it has begun to deteriorate.

 

[Wood Spinner]

Another is that if you do buy at the market do as has been said but also buy a fish and have it fileted. That way you are sure you get what you want. I believe that some of the fileted fish in the baskets is not as designated. It could be stingrey or shark.

 

[mel150]

Yep, I think that's the ultimate answer. When I see a fish being filleted, I'll know it's a flounder or snapper and I'll buy it. Otherwise I'm going to have to buy me a boat and start fishing myself!

 

[bahiatrader]

Hey, stingray isn't all that bad. My wife and I had one for a shore brunch one time when we were snorkeling down by San Carlos. It was the only thing I managed to spear that morning so we had it with lime/dill sauce, salt, and pepper. I'd do it again. I was told once that some unscrupulous fish processors cut chunks of stingray with a cookie cutter and sold them as scallops. Just a rumor.
Shark is OK too. I've eaten hammerhead and what wes identified as black tip shark. Both of them were better in my estimation than tilapia or carp. Before all the hell was let loose about truth in advertising in the '60s, much of the swordfish sold in stores and restaurants was actually shark. Not a rumor.
Yes, I've eaten carp. I knew a family that went on a carp hunting trip every year. They'd can it in quart and pint mason jars. It was suvival food that was edible with enough of the right spices. The kids never told anyone at school they were eating carp sandwiches for lunch. They both grew up to be pretty good adults. I tried some tilapia when they first started farming them at Puerto Peñasco. There are other fish I would prefer to eat. I don't think I'll ever try to learn how to catch tilapia.

 

[El Feo]

Yes, I've eaten carp. I knew a family that went on a carp hunting trip every year. They'd can it in quart and pint mason jars. It was suvival food that was edible with enough of the right spices. The kids never told anyone at school they were eating carp sandwiches for lunch. They both grew up to be pretty good adults. I tried some tilapia when they first started farming them at Puerto Peñasco. There are other fish I would prefer to eat. I don't think I'll ever try to learn how to catch tilapia.

Here's my grandfather's recipe for preparing carp:
Remove insides, leave on head and tail.
Rub inside with salt and pepper to taste.
Fill cavity with chopped mushrooms and onions.
Coat outside of carp, over scales with a Barbeque sauce.
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F
Place Carp on a wooden board soaked overnight in salt water.
Cook in the oven for 35 minutes.
Remove from oven, throw away the carp and eat the board.
:chef: :chef: :chef: :chef: :chef: :chef: :chef:

 

[bahiatrader]

Carp is not native to the US. It was originally imported as a food fish. I guess some people have different tastes. I've heard the recipe for carp on a board too. I think the board would be kind of chewy, but it might be a good source of fiber. Those who are advancing in years, usually become more concerned about fiber. :lol:

 

[Kenny]

There was a group of Russians, some of whom I worked with, that got permission from Washington State fish and game Dept to net Carp in lake Vancouver. That's just across the Columbia river from Portland Oregon. They exported the canned Carp to the European market and did very well. Lets see, that was about 1984 I believe. The Carp caught in the clear, cold, and clean rivers of Oregon and Washington tasted just fine and they fought hard as well.

Kenny

 

[HAPPY]

~~~ NOW WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT THE ~~~ @#$%ING RUSSIANS WERE DOING WITH CARP IN 1984, ~~~ :lol: :lol: :lol: , ACHI, ACHI, ACHI, ~~~
~~~ HEY YOU, :lol: :lol: :lol: ~~~ AT YOU, ~~~
~~~ DON'T BE "HAPPY" ~~~ WORRY, ~~~ ACHI, ACHI, ACHI, ~~~

 

[bahiatrader]

Sometimes when I'm fishing the Colorado River near Laughlin, and the bite is over or I get bored, I'll anchor the boat right in front of a casino that has carp around the docks. I'll throw a few little pieces of bread out to get them interested. Then I'll throw a white fly at them. An eight or 10 lb. carp will give you a hell of a battle on a fly rod. The water there is cold and clear so they ought to be good eating. I guess I'll never know...