In 1952, Noah S. “Soggy” Sweat, Jr., a member of the Mississippi House of Representatives, was asked about his position on whiskey. Here’s how he answered: If you mean whiskey, the devil’s brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame, despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it with every fiber of my being. However, if by whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the elixir of life, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning; if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to forget life’s great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow; if you mean that drink the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of it. This is my position, and as always, I refuse to compromise on matters of principle.
Dry heat, I was wondering why someone like myself of modest means post a real picture of myself in my profile ? When someone like yourself says there correct and preaches his so called beliefs to us has to post a cartoon picture ? Why do you hide your identity ? Are you afraid ? Are you ashamed ? Are you more comfortable in the dark were no one can see you ? Maybe you had a tragic childhood ? Maybe you know your not popular to the masses ? Your words have NO meaning for a coward that hides from everyone.....
If you really believe this crap you preach then show yourself and stop hiding like a coward ! I am sure now you will reply with this and that and all your twisted words to justify not showing yourself BUT were not that stupid Sir.... time to come out of the closet so to speak dry heat ! Are you a man or a coward little boy ?
That's good you except a hidden mans words and likes what he says ! I can respect that ! but who is this person and why does he post his thoughts to us and hide his identity ? step forward drymeat and lets see who you are ! dry meat enjoys twisting our words to meet his needs. BUT again who is he ? is he one of the other posters here with a fake profile ? is he a he ? ah the internet can hide so many things and fool so many people ! i just ask for dry meat to come forward so lets see if he hides still ? have a great day lagrimas85 :-)
lagrimas85 said:
Sorry,Tomcat but to me what DH says makes alot of sense. He talks just like my grandfather used to.
Dry heat, I was wondering why someone like myself of modest means post a real picture of myself in my profile ? When someone like yourself says there correct and preaches his so called beliefs to us has to post a cartoon picture ? Why do you hide your identity ? Are you afraid ? Are you ashamed ? Are you more comfortable in the dark were no one can see you ? Maybe you had a tragic childhood ? Maybe you know your not popular to the masses ? Your words have NO meaning for a coward that hides from everyone.....
If you really believe this crap you preach then show yourself and stop hiding like a coward ! I am sure now you will reply with this and that and all your twisted words to justify not showing yourself BUT were not that stupid Sir.... time to come out of the closet so to speak dry heat ! Are you a man or a coward little boy ?
Yes, you got me- I am afraid that you are a 6'6" 250 pound MMA fighter. Honestly, I don't care who you are- never did. As much fun as this forum is, I know some allow their emotions to run wild when frustrations sets in. Since I have other project in penasco that I have some involvement in, I certainly don't want some nut job to affect a project or others involved in them because he/she did not like what I said on an online forum. So yes, Mr tough guy to help you feel better tonight- just answer yes to your questions about me.
I am not here to preach, I don't care to convert anyone in what I have said. I really states 3 main things on this thread. 1. owners cannot rent outside of the rental operator 2. the resort will always have an exclusive rental operator (no different than any other resort) 3. a new operator will take over the existing one hopefuly this year. It is certainly not my job to enforce the covenants and restrictions.
It seems to me that you have much deeper issues. My guess is you are needing to collect ever penny you can on your unit in order to hang on to it- regardless of the means. Stating what I said above is obviously going against your desperation. I am sorry for your struggles, however resorting to desperate measures or actions is never good business. Like I said before, maybe it's best to walk away from the debt and enjoy life. Some things are not worth hanging on to if they bring us heartache, especially material things. Wish you the best- coward little boy (another nickname to add this week).
I am sure your Filipina mail order bride business is doing well and maybe that should be your focus. I personally think it should include tours of massage businesses in the phillippines- that is an instant income increase.
LOL I am right you will hide and twist mine and others words... deeper issues ??? yeah like knowing who I debate with ??? OK dry meat twist away and try to convince others your justified in hiding who you are. I am not stupid or am I desparate ! I never threatened you so why do you speak of fighters ? my emotions are just fine but my bullshit detector has you red lined ! I am not even tough or have ever claimed to be LOL ok twist twist twist my words when you want to avoid a direct question !!!!! If someone ask you a simple question you avoid it and answer with some screew ball reply.....that's simple to see ! me a threat hahahahahaha nice try as you avoid yet another simple question !
dry heat said:
Yes Tom, you got me- I am afraid that you are a 6'6" 250 pound MMA fighter. Honestly, I don't care who you are- never did. As much fun as this forum is, I know some allow their emotions to run wild when frustrations sets in. Since I have other project in penasco that I have some involvement in, I certainly don't want some nut job to affect a project or others involved in them because he/she did not like what I said on an online forum. So yes, Mr tough guy to help you feel better tonight- just answer yes to your questions about me.
I am not here to preach, I don't care to convert anyone in what I have said. I really states 3 main things on this thread. 1. owners cannot rent outside of the rental operator 2. the resort will always have an exclusive rental operator (no different than any other resort) 3. a new operator will take over the existing one hopefuly this year. It is certainly not my job to enforce the covenants and restrictions.
It seems to me that you have much deeper issues. My guess is you are needing to collect ever penny you can on your unit in order to hang on to it- regardless of the means. Stating what I said above is obviously going against your desperation. I am sorry for your struggles, however resorting to desperate measures or actions is never good business. Like I said before, maybe it's best to walk away from the debt and enjoy life. Some things are not worth hanging on to if they bring us heartache, especially material things. Wish you the best- coward little boy (another nickname to add this week).
Dry Heave, are you going to make good on your word of $145/night FRI-SUN when I need a condo? You could set a good example with your actions and not your words. Turn me into a believer HEAT! I love LP, i just hate being treated like a minority!
Dry Heave, are you going to make good on your word of $145/night FRI-SUN when I need a condo? You could set a good example with your actions and not your words. Turn me into a believer HEAT! I love LP, i just hate being treated like a minority!
Definately, you will find countless units on site such as VRBO that offer an owner approved rate of $145 (lowest approved owner rate for a 1 bedroom ocean view unit). The only additional amount you will pay is the 5.5% mexico lodgings tax and associated fee's (total weekend rate per night is $152.97). no wristband fee's, no check cleaning fee, daily maid service, full hotel service (ie. move you to another unit if you have a problem, etc.).
example 1: http://www.vrbo.com/167469
example 2: http://www.vrbo.com/185471
Weekday rate would be $115 per night. I think you will find these prices are lower than those offered at othere resorts along sandy beach, plus (of course my biased opinion) the resort is a better product.
Do you think these prices are too high for the market?
Hopefuly with a new rental operator and association operator, the overal product will improve.
LOL I am right you will hide and twist mine and others words... deeper issues ??? yeah like knowing who I debate with ??? OK dry meat twist away and try to convince others your justified in hiding who you are. I am not stupid or am I desparate ! I never threatened you so why do you speak of fighters ? my emotions are just fine but my bullshit detector has you red lined ! I am not even tough or have ever claimed to be LOL ok twist twist twist my words when you want to avoid a direct question !!!!! If someone ask you a simple question you avoid it and answer with some screew ball reply.....that's simple to see ! me a threat hahahahahaha nice try as you avoid yet another simple question !
Look, if you don't like how something is done in real estate you have a few options (sell, foreclose, change the bylaws). I dont' work for the resort, so I don't have to answer to you (you are not my employer). I don't care who you are nor have I ever paid attention to your picture. I was actually more interested in "happy ending" massage services in the philipines and was wondering if your "personal tours" included this, or is the tour service more to find me a filipino wife? Sorry I digress again... I don't care to tell you who I am because I have nothing to due with your rental frustrations, plus I am more concerned about some fruit loop getting pissed and starting problems for my ventures in penasco. Since you clearly want to rent your unit on your own and want to collect all the rental income, I suggest you start a grass roots campaign and contact all your owners and work to change the bylaws. I only stated that, it appeared based on your strong feelings and frustrations, that you desperately needed to rent your unit on your own without paying anything to a rental operator. It just seemed to me that something else was influencing your passionate frustration. By the way, thank you for making it clear that you are not stupid, not desperate and your emotions are fine. I am happy for you.
Now you tell me which scenario is better, purchase a condo say for 200,000 cash and now it is worth 75,000, thus giving you a 125,000 loss, OR, purchasing the same condo for 200,000 with a down payment of 60,000 and giving the condo back to the developer thus losing your 60,000, OR hanging onto the condo that you rarely are able to rent, thus no return on your 200,000 and if you decide to sell and cut your loss, lose 125,000.
Me, I'm choosing the $60,000 loss. Just sayin
Not a jab on anybody but I am just saying..
I have a nice 1 bedroom for sale at the Sonoran Spa I would even take 10k down and I don't mind if you only keep it a few years I will be happy to take it back when you are thru playing in the sun and the beach...
So how are things at the Sonorans? I hear the HOAs are all solvent and no one stole your money there. Oh what's $3 mil among friends eh? Just be patient here. As long as we got an ace negotiator like Dryheave, why worry? Really, the Secret Squirrels got pissy and turned against everyone because only 30% blocked their units on their recommendation. Good reason to get mad at the rest, guys. That's more than a little like WWG getting pissy about people not paying them for rentals so they steal the money from those that did.No, I still can't rent my own unit.Yet. But you are always going to be a tool Dryheave. I suspect you may be short in stature. Is it true your shoes can be seen in your driver's license photo?
Again, just more drivel coming from the heat... Truth is the only thing that's real about you to us is your glowing personality. The rest is unsubstantiated and like a Walt Disney fairytale; just a wish upon a star as far as we know.
Kenny;
I'm in the Lear halfway across. Yes, I realize you had it reserved for Tuesday but our interests in Lybia are taking a pounding and someone needs to intervene. The value of the rest of the portfolio has dropped by some 35%, since most of it is in the Middle East. I warned about that 5 years ago you might recall. Can't complain too much as we are still up over 600% in that time.
Have you staff contact my staff to work out the details of the merger we spoke about late last week. Tio M. won't be able to help us this time so you're the expert on this and it's in you hands.
We need a new security company as well, these guys are just not working out. Had an incursion in my perimeter last week in NYC, not a pretty sight.
On the yacht deal, Tatoosh is on the market at $176 but that's too rich for me right now. I know you like Columbus 177 at $34 but I'm still stuck on Alibi. Sacanu designs the best and the interior by Luca Dini is to die for.
When is the next meeting? The Russias are getting jumpy again so maybe Moscow.
Nobody has it good dear kenny. You are right I have no friends, unfortunately I don't have a network of seniors to play shuffle board with like you do. As one of our mature in age seniors, I don't want to cause you any stress or frustrations, so whatever you say is right. I know how dear this forum is to you and how seriously you you take it, my lying fantasies are just causing you stress- so I am sorry. I wish you nothing but the best and hope you are able to stretch that fixed income so that you can enjoy life. I will just continue to make things up and continue in my dreams.
Again I have no idea what the hell you're talking about from that little fantasy word of yours. If you call a full time job at the college, and overseeing million $$+ property a fixed income then so be it. If your looking forward to playing shuffle board with friends in the future, I'd suggest you seek some therapy, because as you are today no one would ever play with you.
Roberto, How many times have you told you not to post any of our personal business on this forum.:hairout:
Cuanto dinero se robarron los ladrones. Este geuy el seco calenton que chigado's se cree. No veron el chieste que puse anoche come se aweto el guey seco..Ya no
se va creer tan chingon pase verver para atras..Playa pm me if u need this translated because it will get lost...
Just me but I find everyone worth a shit brings something to the table.If it's just bread it gets pretty boring pretty fast!
Hell, being the son of a small time crook/card player I saved a few big shot friends thousands of dollars in the old days at Tahoe they were losing each year playing poker with "friends' just by showing them a few versions of old dad's trademark " Mechanic's Grip" . Sometimes nothing is a mighty cool hand!
Kenny said:
Again I have no idea what the hell you're talking about from that little fantasy word of yours. If you call a full time job at the college, and overseeing million $$+ property a fixed income then so be it. If your looking forward to playing shuffle board with friends in the future, I'd suggest you seek some therapy, because as you are today no one would ever play with you.
Roberto, How many times have you told you not to post any of our personal business on this forum.:hairout:
Claro que si. Hemos tenido inversiones en Penasco. Pero lo peor es de Las Palomas. He construido casas en Penasco ,pero nunca he visto ladrones como ellos en Las Palomas.
Well Well Mr Big shot. Now that you have made it clear you oversee million $$+ property I am really impressed. Is this a case of the kettle calling the pot black?
Could I use one of your quotes in reply to your overseeing million $$+ property? I think you should have added 5 more $$$$$ to make it sound even more impressive and believable. As a suggestion you may want to include such things as you are an employee who works for a corporation that has revenue's of so many millions. Forget my suggestion, I like your defensive reply better.
Kenny said:
I think your bragging is just so much pucky, and hogwash. The "my staff" statement was a true gem, and of course made you look oh so good, and oh so important.
I would replace "my staff" comment with your "overseeing million $$+ property". To me that is way more impressive, I am just a gumshoe compared to your monopoly oversight. I would need a staff meeting to help me figure out how you manage millions in property, work full time at a college and manage to run a career as a rocky point forum junkie.
Well Well Mr Big shot. Now that you have made it clear you oversee million $$+ property I am really impressed. Is this a case of the kettle calling the pot black?
Could I use one of your quotes in reply to your overseeing million $$+ property? I think you should have added 5 more $$$$$ to make it sound even more impressive and believable. As a suggestion you may want to include such things as you are an employee who works for a corporation that has revenue's of so many millions. Forget my suggestion, I like your defensive reply better.
I would replace "my staff" comment with your "overseeing million $$+ property". To me that is way more impressive, I am just a gumshoe compared to your monopoly oversight. I would need a staff meeting to help me figure out how you manage millions in property, work full time at a college and manage to run a career as a rocky point forum junkie.
You forgot about all the stuff that Roberto and I have in the fire, that should have been good for at least a paragraph.
One big difference there hot shot... There are many people on this forum who know me personally and face to face, and know exactly what I do for a living.
You forgot about all the stuff that Roberto and I have in the fire, that should have been good for at least a paragraph.
One big difference there hot shot... There are many people on this forum who know me personally and face to face, and know exactly what I do for a living.
The oversight of millions in property or working at a college? Hey, I think you are a superstar. I too would tell others about it while fishing in penasco or during long story nights. Funny thing is, I don't think I have ever said what I do for a living, however I assume you have made an assumption based on various comments I have made over the years. Either way, I guess you are more interested or think some words are impressive. Maybe it's a big deal to some.
This forum is a riot to read. There are serious questions being asked, people are looking for answers, expressing their different ideas and giving their opinions. When someone doesn’t agree there are some that resort to cutting them down and it reminds me of when I was in grade school many years ago. Remember when 2 kids would be going at it and saying the funniest stupid stuff about each other and when they would finally shut up and look around all of the kids were looking at them and laughing? Well that us laughing at you, you guys are really funny. I have always enjoyed people (kids) who find the need to cut others down who they differ with just to make them feel better about themselves. Please keep it up I can’t wait each day to read who has resorted to their play ground antics again. But again this is just my opinion.
Unfortunately some don't like the way things are or the update regarding the resort (intent of of this thread). I posted countless times the latest updates regarding the resort (new rental operator, new HOA administrator, negotiations regarding debt owed) and answered questions regarding the rental rules of the resort (current bylaws, what is needed to change bylaws, reasons why a resort has only 1 operator, examples of resorts that have only 1 operator). Some don't like the answers and start to get emotional about it and say such things as "who do you think you are" "I can do as I please" "owners group representing owners has their own agenda" and on and on. Eventually anger sets in and frustration and then a little group gets together and wants to start spreading rumors and insults to help their disagreement with the way things are and wanting to hold an owner accountable for their problems. In the end, I cop to playing along with the playground games only for the purpose of entertainment after listening to countless complaints, rumors and insults. In any case, if it the games continue so be it. If the conversation steers more toward the topic then even better!
I base that on your "various comments" over the years.
I don't think I have ever said what I do for a living, however I assume you have made an assumption based on various comments I have made over the years.
I've assumed nothing, and you're just a keyboard that's full of hot air as far as I can tell. I base that on your "various comments" over the years.:-P
az-dan, I'm glad you get a kick out of reading some of this stuff... So do I.:mrgreen:
dry heat....unfortunately....whether it was intentional or not....you come across as a "pompous ass" in many of your posts....and thereby rile up some of the other regulars on here.....
Some are "pot stirrers"....like me....
BTW....is there a "new rental operator, new HOA administrator"???....or is this a figment of your imagination....or hope that this will occur sometime in the future.....that is, on Mexican "time"????:stir::stir:
I've assumed nothing, and you're just a keyboard that's full of hot air as far as I can tell. I base that on your "various comments" over the years.:-P
az-dan, I'm glad you get a kick out of reading some of this stuff... So do I.:mrgreen:
Fun, I can play too- Kenny you are just a grumpy old senior that feels the need to stretch the truth (ex. oversees million $++ properties). Let's see work's at a college and for fun also oversees millions in property- sure I am sure you left out a lot of details. Either way, I don't care just found it funny that you had to say something about your profession or stretch the truth to sound more important. I hope your employer gave the ok to addictively post on a rocky point forum. Probably does not matter since you have the overseeing of millions to fall back on.
Dan, I will do my best to continue the entertainment just like Kenny who thinks he is above it, yet plays right along. when the conversation turns to the topic I would be more than happy to change gears- until then I look forward to our continuous playground banter. I just hope Kenny does not get fired for speding too much time on the internet. Ok Kenny your turn, I know you are boiling to say something else.
I'm at home, never use the bosse's computer for fun. Speaking of fun, I just love the way you bend over for me.:woo:
"Ok Kenny your turn",say's the Heat.
I'll say it again... Unlike with you, there are many people on this forum who know exactly what I do for a living, and I'm sure their having a good laugh right about now.
I'm at home, never use the bosse's computer for fun. Speaking of fun, I just love the way you bend over for me.:woo:I'll say it again... Unlike with you, there are many people on this forum who know exactly what I do for a living, and I'm sure their having a good laugh right about now.
HAPPY, this ain't working, this is how ya do it!
Sure Kenny, whatever you say. I totally believe that you oversee millions in property and that you work for a college at the same time, I am sure that the millions you oversee are yours and not others. I am sure it is nothing like a secretary for an investment brokerage saying she oversee's billions. I have no doubts that "many people on this forum" will vouche for your claims of your oversight business and know the exact details of your million +++ operation.
I am glad your boss allows you to work from home. I hope you spend the time working and not thinking about another man bending over for you- I don't want you to lose your employee perk of working from home.
Are you really calling out to your mentally challenged friend? I hope you are not taking advise from him when it comes to the millions you are in charge of.
I can keep on dancing unless you would rather talk about the thread topic.
Back to the topic. Anyone here caught Las Palomas renting their condo when it was blocked or sneaking people in without acknowledging same to the owner? I have. There is now a site that reports lights on in condos at night to curb this tactic.
Also , summertime is coming so lock your AC compessor cabinets or there will be stuff missing.
I notice they are locking the doors to access those. Kelpinc's services help.
My God Heat! :roll: You have taken my simple statement and fantasized about it, and changed it until it sounds just like the crap you've been spouting on here for years. (except when you left when the bottom fell out) Try the real world in short dose's Heat, and you just might make it back from la la land.
I recently had Kelpinc instal the eTemp temperature controls in my 2 bedroom unit. It helps with restricting guests from lowering the a/c down to 69 degrees in the summer time (door sensors also help).
Back to the topic. Anyone here caught Las Palomas renting their condo when it was blocked or sneaking people in without acknowledging same to the owner? I have. There is now a site that reports lights on in condos at night to curb this tactic.
Also , summertime is coming so lock your AC compessor cabinets or there will be stuff missing.
I notice they are locking the doors to access those. Kelpinc's services help.
Question for all you owners....does the HOA or anyone else perform any kind of audit of the rental company to verify which units have been rented...has that ever been done? Results????
My God Heat! :roll: You have taken my simple statement and fantasized about it, and changed it until it sounds just like the crap you've been spouting on here for years. (except when you left when the bottom fell out) Try the real world in short dose's Heat, and you just might make it back from la la land.
I'm done.
I just want to live in your million +++ oversight operation, that is the la la land I want to live in. I want your world of playing on the home computer and have a boss that supports my play time. My employees would love your job (great, here I go again with my fantasies).
Question for all you owners....does the HOA or anyone else perform any kind of audit of the rental company to verify which units have been rented...has that ever been done? Results????
good question, problem is the rental company can only rent units who have a contract with them (the contract is between the owner and the rental company- not the HOA). The HOA does not have anything in their bylaws that give them permission to audit the rental operators business. If another resort was able to have the HOA audit the rental operator's business, I would love to hear about it and find out how they went about it or the reason they used. So, to answer your question directly- I have not heard of the rental company being audited by the HOA for their financials or performance with owners.
I just want to live in your million +++ oversight operation, that is the la la land I want to live in. I want your world of playing on the home computer and have a boss that supports my play time. My employees would love your job (great, here I go again with my fantasies).
I'm sure you would.. LOL.... I know guy's, but it's the Heat.:mrgreen:
My dear Kenny,
Amazing how quick you are to post pictures of yourself with no one asking or caring. Why would you post a picture of your daughter online? I assume the complex is one of the milllions in property you oversee- very nice. However, I am worried that you would post a picture of your weener if someone said it was 4 inches. I could just hear you "Oh I will show him I don't, let me take a picture". You are a joke and a good mark to mess with. Since you are posting pictures on a public forum and inviting comments I will start with one suggestion- you may want to whiten your teeth, years of smoking has yellowed them.
good question, problem is the rental company can only rent units who have a contract with them (the contract is between the owner and the rental company- not the HOA). The HOA does not have anything in their bylaws that give them permission to audit the rental operators business. If another resort was able to have the HOA audit the rental operator's business, I would love to hear about it and find out how they went about it or the reason they used. So, to answer your question directly- I have not heard of the rental company being audited by the HOA for their financials or performance with owners.
So...let me get this straight.....the rental company has no controls over it.....they only have a contract with the individual owners that allow them to rent their units, but not with the HOA. So what right does the rental company have to try to charge individual owners if they decide to rent on their own....that is, the owners who do not have a contract with the rental company? Or am I losing something here.....who is the "for profit side" of Las Palomas???? What prevents the rental company from being ousted? They have defaulted on their contracts with the individual owners by not paying them for the rental of their units.
My dear Kenny,
Amazing how quick you are to post pictures of yourself with no one asking or caring. Why would you post a picture of your daughter online? I assume the complex is one of the milllions in property you oversee- very nice. However, I am worried that you would post a picture of your weener if someone said it was 4 inches. I could just hear you "Oh I will show him I don't, let me take a picture". You are a joke and a good mark to mess with. Since you are posting pictures on a public forum and inviting comments I will start with one suggestion- you may want to whiten your teeth, years of smoking has yellowed them.
So...let me get this straight.....the rental company has no controls over it.....they only have a contract with the individual owners that allow them to rent their units, but not with the HOA. So what right does the rental company have to try to charge individual owners if they decide to rent on their own....that is, the owners who do not have a contract with the rental company? Or am I losing something here.....who is the "for profit side" of Las Palomas???? What prevents the rental company from being ousted? They have defaulted on their contracts with the individual owners by not paying them for the rental of their units.
The HOA only allows all rental to go through one operator, the chosen operator has a contract as the exclusive rental agency at the resort (no different than other resorts). Since the owners are having issues with the performance of the Operator, the owners need to remove the operator by following sonoran law and following HOA bylaws when it comes to removing and replacing the existing operator with another. So yes, the existing operator can be removed or ousted by the owners who have a contract with them (not by the HOA). the HOA can only enforce one rental company, the cancellation or removal of the rental company must be done by the owners who have a contract with the operator. the owners are currently in this stage (removing the operator and replacing with another).
The HOA only allows all rental to go through one operator, the chosen operator has a contract as the exclusive rental agency at the resort (no different than other resorts). Since the owners are having issues with the performance of the Operator, the owners need to remove the operator by following sonoran law and following HOA bylaws when it comes to removing and replacing the existing operator with another. So yes, the existing operator can be removed or ousted by the owners who have a contract with them (not by the HOA). the HOA can only enforce one rental company, the cancellation or removal of the rental company must be done by the owners who have a contract with the operator. the owners are currently in this stage (removing the operator and replacing with another).
So...the rental company has a contract with the resort....isn't that the HOA???? Or is "the resort" some other entity? Are you also saying that the owners who do not have a contract with the rental company also have no say as to who is or is not the exclusive rental agent? That is what you're implying.
So...the rental company has a contract with the resort....isn't that the HOA???? Or is "the resort" some other entity? Are you also saying that the owners who do not have a contract with the rental company also have no say as to who is or is not the exclusive rental agent? That is what you're implying.
The rental operator has an exclusive contract with the HOA.
The only owners that can remove the rental company are those that have a contract with the rental company (owners who do not have a contact with the operator cannot vote to remove them).
The HOA though has strict guidelines for the services and requirements of what the chosen rental operator must bring to Las Palomas in order to meet the HOA's standards (ex. AAA 4 diamond rated level for a hotel).
So, I've reviewed all the docs again. I still don't see where I agreed to only 6 days per month for my family and friends to use MY dwelling. Got any input Dry?
So, I've reviewed all the docs again. I still don't see where I agreed to only 6 days per month for my family and friends to use MY dwelling. Got any input Dry?
Checked all those same docs and there is no guest of owner $5 daily fee. The CC&R's do mention a renter HOA fee, but no mention of a guest of owner fee.
The SC gets away with implementing these types of policies because they depend on owners ignorance or the fact that they are just checked out.
Seems to me the Secret Squirrels had a bit of a discussion concerning their "right " to restrict all others to 6 days per month of friends and relatives staying at YOUR home.They agreed that it needed a vote but implemented it anyway.Can those of you that read this and don't own there believe the audacity of these guys? Are they from Joisey or what?You from Joisey Dryheave?
Ernesto and Curiousgeorge,
I am sure the SC's main priority is the transfer of HOA control and the replacement of a rental operator. I am exhausted answering your questions. I believe the restrictions were not sent by the SC. My suggestion is to approach the entity that sent you the correspondence. If you are still upset about the results, I suggest you start a grass roots campaign to accomplish your wishes. You guys are just wasting time barking online, if you want something done it will require action.
Its amazing how drymeat avoids answering questions...Now as soon as a few owner pull out there contracts and other papers drymeat doesn't seem to like information sharing and he is tired now.... good go take nap drymeat you must be very tired from running everyone in circles with useless answers that help no one....wow you could run for politics drymeat.... Their famous for talking in circles and never answering the questions ask to them.... someone should post the purchase contract online and lets all pick it apart :-) cross out names and other personal info first ! wow 6,600 views on this thread... someone is bound to see something in the contract of interest :-)
dry heat said:
Ernesto and Curiousgeorge,
I am sure the SC's main priority is the transfer of HOA control and the replacement of a rental operator. I am exhausted answering your questions. I believe the restrictions were not sent by the SC. My suggestion is to approach the entity that sent you the correspondence. If you are still upset about the results, I suggest you start a grass roots campaign to accomplish your wishes. You guys are just wasting time barking online, if you want something done it will require action.
Its amazing how drymeat avoids answering questions...Now as soon as a few owner pull out there contracts and other papers drymeat doesn't seem to like information sharing and he is tired now.... good go take nap drymeat you must be very tired from running everyone in circles with useless answers that help no one....wow you could run for politics drymeat.... Their famous for talking in circles and never answering the questions ask to them.... someone should post the purchase contract online and lets all pick it apart :-) cross out names and other personal info first ! wow 6,600 views on this thread... someone is bound to see something in the contract of interest :-)
I want you guys to have as much fun as I do. So here is a fun project. Find out who the restrictions of use affect. Read the Operator agreement. Read the latest HOA bylaws (don't go off the one you purchased on since addendums and such have been added, changed, removed over the years in the form of general assembly meetings). After your research, contact a mexican contract attorney and follow up on your questions. If you feel you have something to go on, then contact the rest of your fellow owners and present the information with the intend of changing something. It will require a lot of work, but I am fully confident you guys can do it. Based on the passion you show here, I know the two of you will enjoy the work.
Ernesto and Curiousgeorge,
I am sure the SC's main priority is the transfer of HOA control and the replacement of a rental operator. I am exhausted answering your questions. I believe the restrictions were not sent by the SC. My suggestion is to approach the entity that sent you the correspondence. If you are still upset about the results, I suggest you start a grass roots campaign to accomplish your wishes. You guys are just wasting time barking online, if you want something done it will require action.
best of luck.-
FYI:
The "entity" that issued these new mandates, as reported in a mass e-mail from ALP on March 7th, consisted of SC, TC, OLP and ALP representatives, as a result of meetings that occurred throughout the week-end of 3/4, all agreeing to, among other things, restrict owners' rights to the use of their properties, both within and outside of the rental pool. The SC and /or TC reps absolutely not only assisted in facilitating these changes, they INSTIGATED them.
For a 2 bedroom ,about $300 a month. So 800 units with 3/4 paying, they collect $600 per day. That chlorinates alot of pools and cuts alot of grass considering what they pay there.
FYI:
The "entity" that issued these new mandates, as reported in a mass e-mail from ALP on March 7th, consisted of SC, TC, OLP and ALP representatives, as a result of meetings that occurred throughout the week-end of 3/4, all agreeing to, among other things, restrict owners' rights to the use of their properties, both within and outside of the rental pool. The SC and /or TC reps absolutely not only assisted in facilitating these changes, they INSTIGATED them.
Are you sure you are quoting the mass e-mail from ALP correctly. You may want to read what the SC does in your bylaws. I could give you the answer, but I am sure you will believe it more if you read it yourself. You are wasting your time here, if you want action get to it and so something. bitching and crying over your frustration gets you no results. Andale amigo!
For a 2 bedroom ,about $300 a month. So 800 units with 3/4 paying, they collect $600 per day. That chlorinates alot of pools and cuts alot of grass considering what they pay there.
3/4 of the units don't pay $300 per month.
Read your bylaws to find out what the maintenance fee's include.
Seems to me the Secret Squirrels had a bit of a discussion concerning their "right " to restrict all others to 6 days per month of friends and relatives staying at YOUR home.They agreed that it needed a vote but implemented it anyway.Can those of you that read this and don't own there believe the audacity of these guys? Are they from Joisey or what?You from Joisey Dryheave?
ernesto....if someone pulled what the rental company has been doing in Joisey....they would be used for fish bait.....
Awesome, I love your drive and determination to correct what you see wrong. I look forward to your action plan in correcting what you don't like. The "fail" comment is cute since I have no idea what you are referring to, sounds mysterious. Either way, good for you in wanting to get things done and no longer bitching about it online- I am proud of you.
You have a rental company that has not been paying the owners for the rental of their units
You have a rental company that has an exclusive contract thru the HOA to rent out the units
You have a rental company that can only be voted out by members of the HOA that have a contract with the rental company to not pay them their rental fees
You have entities other than the HOA making decisions (mandates) on the operation of the resort
You have a rental company that has agreed to start paying the owners for the use of their units....going forward (but not past owed fees)
You have a rental company that has no oversight as to who's units they have rented out and what payments have been made (audits)
You have a rental company/resort charging fees that they have no authority to charge
dry heat....did I miss anything?
Obviously, no cartel bigwigs own at Las Palomas....or they are part of the rental company.....otherwise, there would be bodies discovered in the desert with their heads sticking out.
You have a rental company that has not been paying the owners for the rental of their units
You have a rental company that has an exclusive contract thru the HOA to rent out the units
You have a rental company that can only be voted out by members of the HOA that have a contract with the rental company to not pay them their rental fees
You have entities other than the HOA making decisions (mandates) on the operation of the resort
You have a rental company that has agreed to start paying the owners for the use of their units....going forward (but not past owed fees)
You have a rental company that has no oversight as to who's units they have rented out and what payments have been made (audits)
You have a rental company/resort charging fees that they have no authority to charge
dry heat....did I miss anything?
Obviously, no cartel bigwigs own at Las Palomas....or they are part of the rental company.....otherwise, there would be bodies discovered in the desert with their heads sticking out.
Some right, some wrong, some more complicated than the statement made, some are standard in the industry. Yes, you are missing a lot more when it comes to your recap.
I know the SC had to hire an attorney in mexico city because they could not find one in the penasco area that did not already have some conflict of interest with the developer.
Some right, some wrong, some more complicated than the statement made, some are standard in the industry. Yes, you are missing a lot more when it comes to your recap.
I know the SC had to hire an attorney in mexico city because they could not find one in the penasco area that did not already have some conflict of interest with the developer.
Why don't you correct them or expand on them???? Most of the stuff is what I got from YOUR posts..... And all these acronyms.....I have to deal with acronyms all day at work......
Why don't you correct them or expand on them???? Most of the stuff is what I got from YOUR posts..... And all these acronyms.....I have to deal with acronyms all day at work......
sorry, SC stand for suveillance commitee (made up of individual owners- roughly 15 between both phases). Truthfuly, I don't have the energy to expand on each point and then deliberate for countless posts. I have already wasted waaay too much time on here.
My purpose on this thread was to provide what I know regarding "Las Palomas update". I stated how things are and the plan for the immediate future. For those that disagree with either, I suggest they do something about it rather than vent on an online forum. Most of these issues have already been expanded on tirelessly within the owner group of Las Palomas. I wish owners who want action on their issues or concerns the best of luck in getting it accomplished.
Ernesto and Curiousgeorge,
I am sure the SC's main priority is the transfer of HOA control and the replacement of a rental operator. I am exhausted answering your questions. I believe the restrictions were not sent by the SC.
The restrictions were sent by Hector who represents WWG in cooperation with the TC (tourist committee) members. You can be excused for confusing the SC (surveillance committee) with the TC as the Phase II SC and TC have many interchangeable parts.
dry heat said:
My suggestion is to approach the entity that sent you the correspondence.
Please feel free to speak to Hector about your complaint. He will tell you not to worry if you are not renting under the table. This rule will only be enforced for those abusing the guest of owner system.
dry heat said:
If you are still upset about the results, I suggest you start a grass roots campaign to accomplish your wishes. You guys are just wasting time barking online, if you want something done it will require action.
70% of the rental pool will not even block their units when WWG is not paying them. Not enough people will get upset with this continued infringement of ownership rights.
dry heat said:
best of luck.-
Action is useless while the current TC members are in control.
So...the resort is actually "run" by the TC/SC and someone from WWG? ....and not by the HOA....
I really feel for the owners at Las Palomas (one of my friends owns/lives there full time)....but I think that all of this "airing" of the mess should help those that may be considering buying there......
So...the resort is actually "run" by the TC/SC and someone from WWG? ....and not by the HOA....
I really feel for the owners at Las Palomas (one of my friends owns/lives there full time)....but I think that all of this "airing" of the mess should help those that may be considering buying there......
I just love HOA's.....:rofl::hairout:
Rockyptjoe, don't get me wrong. LP is a great resort, in my biased opinion the best in RP. Hopefully and once the HOA finances get in order, there are many great things to say about LP. However, there are a small number of very active owners that have taken control of the HOA (like many other developments) and they appear to have a single minded pursuit of ensuring no competition with the resort operator. And with every new restrictive rule put in place, they seem unconcerned with the collateral damage and infringement of owners rights. Often, the solutions (limiting guest of owners days) are worse than the original problem (some owners renting on their own).
To someone looking in from the outside, it appears that the HOA (the owners)... have relinquished their rights to a small committee.
They have and many do so quite happily. You have many owners who live far away and feel that they have no control of their investments. They were not prepared to invest in a foreign country. They do not have the time or are not interested to get deeply involved so there are happy to have a small group of owners watching out for their interests. Also, as you can see from these trail of posts, the issues seem complex and many owners do not understand the problems nor the implications.
The SC has done a great job in dealing with the big issue, which is regaining control of the finances from WWG. The resort is in a much more stable financial position going forward, despite all other issues. The biggest concern now is recovering for past debt from WWG which is a complex mess that may involve an exchange of assets.
The fact that the SC and TC continues to harp on these side issues is hard to understand and ultimately has side consequences that hurt the owners.
My dear Kenny,
Amazing how quick you are to post pictures of yourself with no one asking or caring. Why would you post a picture of your daughter online? I assume the complex is one of the milllions in property you oversee- very nice. However, I am worried that you would post a picture of your weener if someone said it was 4 inches. I could just hear you "Oh I will show him I don't, let me take a picture". You are a joke and a good mark to mess with. Since you are posting pictures on a public forum and inviting comments I will start with one suggestion- you may want to whiten your teeth, years of smoking has yellowed them.
Of course that's my daughter, and I've posted a video or two of her dancing on this forum in the past. If you goggle her name the whole page has her on it, so I don't think, unlike you, that she has a problem with me showing her picture on here. You assume wrong again Heat, that picture was taken at The Point Hilton Squaw Peak Resort where she was dancing last June. In fact she just got back from a gig in London.. The property I oversea is here in Prescott behind Thumb Butte, and I work in facilities management at Yavapia College. I've also made a deal with my friends to not be called trailer trash, because I sleep under them, not in em, but in my heart.
Your a real piece of work Heat! I sure hope you don't run away and hide again, I'll miss you.:-D
Of course that's my daughter, and I've posted a video or two of her dancing on this forum in the past. If you goggle her name the whole page has her on it, so I don't think, unlike you, that she has a problem with me showing her picture on here. You assume wrong again Heat, that picture was taken at The Point Hilton Squaw Peak Resort where she was dancing last June. In fact she just got back from a gig in London.. The property I oversea is here in Prescott behind Thumb Butte, and I work in facilities management at Yavapia College. I've also made a deal with my friends to not be called trailer trash, because I sleep under them, not in em, but in my heart.
Your a real piece of work Heat! I sure hope you don't run away and hide again, I'll miss you.:-D
I am always here for you and proud that you represent a highly esteemed community college. One should not be ashamed of trailer living. It seems that many who own trailers use the phrase often, seems strange.
Either way I will try and keep in touch more often.
Oh look, the dummies are at it again. Are the banks that close to foreclosing on your units? Just let them go and move on.
You guys should get together and get an action plan going for what you want to accomplish. Doesn't your family get tired of two men crying and bitching without doing something about it? Nothing is worse than a man who cry's and complains about his lot in life and does not a thing about it. You guys are pathetic. Wasting time on a site and wishing someone else will step up for your cause is sad. Since you guys prefer to do nothing about your issues, you need to get creative at least in your posts and come up with some better putdowns (they are starting to sound the same). all I read is the blah blah blah cry cry cry comments from you guys.
ok stupid dog, why don't you research what WWG does and let others know. Since you are interested I am sure you have no problem finding the answer. Can't figure out if you want cute answers or a real answer. Maybe it's best if you do tell us what they do and you can come up with a creative answer based on your mood.
ok stupid dog, why don't you research what WWG does and let others know. Since you are interested I am sure you have no problem finding the answer. Can't figure out if you want cute answers or a real answer. Maybe it's best if you do tell us what they do and you can come up with a creative answer based on your mood.
Las uñitas....!!!
En la sala de un consultorio veterinario se encuentran dos perros:
Un hermoso pastor alemán y un doberman, igualmente grande y bello....
El pastor le pregunta al doberman:
Por qué estás aquí?
Bueno, a mí me van a sacrificar...
Ah, caray! ¿Y por qué?
Bueno, el caso es que le mordí la manita a la bebita de mi dueño.
Oye, ese no es motivo... ¿no te pueden perdonar?
Lo que pasa es que la bebita tiene tres meses y casi le arranqué la mano.
¡No chingues! ¿Por qué hiciste eso?
No sé, simplemente sentí ganas de hacerlo...
Pero dime, ¿por qué estás tú aquí?
Bueno, lo mío fue también cuestión de ganas....
Me estaba bañando con mi dueño, él se agachó para recoger el jabón y no me aguanté las ganas... me fui por detrás, lo sujeté con mis patas y me lo atoré.
¡¡Aaaaaay, no maaaaaaaames, cabrón!! ¡¡Segurito que a ti también te van a sacrificar!!
Nooop! a mí solo me van a cortar las uñitas.
He's one of the Secret Squirrels., No wonder we got such a pile of shit down there. Bunch of inept social misfits.
why secret squirrels, can it be another cool name? something like "skull and bones" or "the order of the doves" or "the illuminati of penasco".
would you be so kind as to post when your unit forecloses so that others have the opportunity to possibly purchase it at a discount from the bank?
Name one person on this forum you can relate to in a positive way, Heave.Por favor.
Now that's not nice Ernesto. say something sweet. I am sure others can relate to your financial struggles and need to do as you please to keep things going. I empathize with your situation and hope you can find a positive outcome (of course in the up and up).
I assume you are trying to say a funny, so I will play along....
jajajajajajjajajajaj
playaperro said:
Las uñitas....!!!
En la sala de un consultorio veterinario se encuentran dos perros:
Un hermoso pastor alemán y un doberman, igualmente grande y bello....
El pastor le pregunta al doberman:
Por qué estás aquí?
Bueno, a mí me van a sacrificar...
Ah, caray! ¿Y por qué?
Bueno, el caso es que le mordí la manita a la bebita de mi dueño.
Oye, ese no es motivo... ¿no te pueden perdonar?
Lo que pasa es que la bebita tiene tres meses y casi le arranqué la mano.
¡No chingues! ¿Por qué hiciste eso?
No sé, simplemente sentí ganas de hacerlo...
Pero dime, ¿por qué estás tú aquí?
Bueno, lo mío fue también cuestión de ganas....
Me estaba bañando con mi dueño, él se agachó para recoger el jabón y no me aguanté las ganas... me fui por detrás, lo sujeté con mis patas y me lo atoré.
¡¡Aaaaaay, no maaaaaaaames, cabrón!! ¡¡Segurito que a ti también te van a sacrificar!!
Nooop! a mí solo me van a cortar las uñitas.
