playaperro
El Pirata
Could it be the Border Militia has invaded this forum, Can you tell who they
are?
are?
Border Militia
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rockyptjoe
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Kenny
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the Shadow Wolves
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0234460320070202 Who knows... they had a special on TV last night about this group, and these boy's are the real deal. Drugs playa, they are after drugs.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0234460320070202 Who knows... they had a special on TV last night about this group, and these boy's are the real deal. Drugs playa, they are after drugs.
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La Huerita
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Nice link, Kenny, thanks. Sometimes the old ways are still best... 
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cactusamigo
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Getting Back To The Initial Subject:
The fact of life is that the drug cartels have the money, and money is power. The police are told at every level to either accept payment, or be executed. The choice is to either live a good life, or be dead. That is what the current border Aduana issue is all about.
Be VERY carefull about abiding by the speed limit when driving through Sonoyta. The local police are very serious about enforcing traffic laws. Should you be unfortunate to be stopped for violating traffic laws, insist on paying your fine at police headquarters. Paying or bribing the officer on the spot only makes it worse for other tourists.
The fact of life is that the drug cartels have the money, and money is power. The police are told at every level to either accept payment, or be executed. The choice is to either live a good life, or be dead. That is what the current border Aduana issue is all about.
Be VERY carefull about abiding by the speed limit when driving through Sonoyta. The local police are very serious about enforcing traffic laws. Should you be unfortunate to be stopped for violating traffic laws, insist on paying your fine at police headquarters. Paying or bribing the officer on the spot only makes it worse for other tourists.
That is easy to say but highly impractical and dangerous in the current climate of death and corrupt law enforcement, which clearly goes all the way to the top. Who would risk being a martyr to help clean up petty corrupt police officers in Mexico?.Getting Back To The Initial Subject:
Be VERY carefull about abiding by the speed limit when driving through Sonoyta. The local police are very serious about enforcing traffic laws. Should you be unfortunate to be stopped for violating traffic laws, insist on paying your fine at police headquarters. Paying or bribing the officer on the spot only makes it worse for other tourists.
rockyptjoe
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I'm very careful driving thru Sonoyta...to the point that I'm afraid one of those Mexican cowboys is going to pull out a gun, you know, the gun that Mexicans are not allowed to own, and shoot me for driving so slow! But if I'm going to be stopped....I will pay the mordida....and that is what it is...a bribe....rather then spend an hour going over to the police station, hope that there is a magistrate available, and pay 3-4 times the amount of the mordida in a fine. I'm not going to fix the corruption in Mexico by making a statement....Getting Back To The Initial Subject:
The fact of life is that the drug cartels have the money, and money is power. The police are told at every level to either accept payment, or be executed. The choice is to either live a good life, or be dead. That is what the current border Aduana issue is all about.
Be VERY carefull about abiding by the speed limit when driving through Sonoyta. The local police are very serious about enforcing traffic laws. Should you be unfortunate to be stopped for violating traffic laws, insist on paying your fine at police headquarters. Paying or bribing the officer on the spot only makes it worse for other tourists.
Mordida....bribes....whatever you want to call it....is not uncommon in much of the world....it may be against American principles....but I'm not in the USA! I'm in Mexico! And before someone goes off on me....bribery exists in the US too...greasing the palms, loans to relatives, a stay in someone's mountain cabin, a game of golf on a course that you would never be able to access....you name it...it goes on...just never filters down to the common folk like it does in Mexico!
Rockyptjoe,
I agree with you. I usually carry a $20 in my shirt pocket when driving through Sonoyta. I have only needed to use it once, but that made the ordeal last about 1 minute, instead of taking it to the police station. I was stopped for speeding, and probably was, but as you said, we are in Mexico, not the US. It's the way it's done.
I agree with you. I usually carry a $20 in my shirt pocket when driving through Sonoyta. I have only needed to use it once, but that made the ordeal last about 1 minute, instead of taking it to the police station. I was stopped for speeding, and probably was, but as you said, we are in Mexico, not the US. It's the way it's done.
got cault by Sonoyta speed trap
About three weeks ago we got stop by one of those speed traps in Sonoyta were the Police stands in the middle of the street when you enter Sonoyta from Rocky Point. My husband was really speeding. The Police Officer was very upset and asks him if we saw the speeding signs and gave us a lecture on Km/h vs Mph in broken English. He also ask him if he every got a speeding ticket in Mexico. My husband told him no and we usually don’t speed when driving though Sonoyta. He did not ask for a bribe or to pay the ticket on the spot. He did tell us that we have to pay the ticket at the Police Station but, it was closed on Sunday and he was going to give this first ticket for free. If he catch us speeding again we will have to pay the ticket at the Police Station for $40 dollars. From my experience, it sounds like the Policy is getting the message not to ask for bribes or to pay the ticket on the spot. They are also learning English. I think the days of giving them $20 to get out of a ticket maybe over.
About three weeks ago we got stop by one of those speed traps in Sonoyta were the Police stands in the middle of the street when you enter Sonoyta from Rocky Point. My husband was really speeding. The Police Officer was very upset and asks him if we saw the speeding signs and gave us a lecture on Km/h vs Mph in broken English. He also ask him if he every got a speeding ticket in Mexico. My husband told him no and we usually don’t speed when driving though Sonoyta. He did not ask for a bribe or to pay the ticket on the spot. He did tell us that we have to pay the ticket at the Police Station but, it was closed on Sunday and he was going to give this first ticket for free. If he catch us speeding again we will have to pay the ticket at the Police Station for $40 dollars. From my experience, it sounds like the Policy is getting the message not to ask for bribes or to pay the ticket on the spot. They are also learning English. I think the days of giving them $20 to get out of a ticket maybe over.
Kenny
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I'm like Joe... I piss of both the local Mexicans, and the ugly Americans in Sonoyta by going just a tad over. I never take the "short cut", and I've never been stopped. But after getting out of town on the open road, doing the speed limit is dangerous in my opinion, and again, never been stopped.
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rockyptjoe
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Have you ever tried going the speed limit on the road to Penasco....it's 90 kph (54 mph). You take your life in your hands from both the gringos and the Mexicans driving that stretch at that speed!
Famous last words.:razz:
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mexmac
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A week after the treasurer in Sonoyta took off with the towns money, I was pulled over 3 times before getting out of the city. Once the officers found out that I live in Mexico and that I wasn't going to pay them on the street, they let me go. The cops play on fear but once they find out that you are not going to play the game, they usually let you go. Side note......be nice and respectful....it goes a long way.
Kenny
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Man I'm starting to feel left out here. How in the hell can you get stopped three times in Sonoyta is quite beyond me. Could it be it's because I drive a Chili pepper red Jeep, and they think I'm just a moving ristras?... I know that in PP they think I'm just helping out a local by towing his cab
and that's why they don't bother me there.Kenny
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It is probably physically safe but not financially so, if the federales are parked under their favorite trees along the way.