New Crossing Structure

brokenwave

brokenwave

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From the pic it is on the US side. That cost a ton, if it was on the Mexican side it would be much simpler and cost effective.
 
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wildtoucan

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Oh, yeah, i see that now. I had seen the booth and thought it must be mexico customs doing passports etc. So is basically the stop they had before by usa just "enhanced".
 
Buffalo Marty

Buffalo Marty

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I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
 
jerry

jerry

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Legalize all drugs and all fire arms in the US and Mexico.we are big boys and girls after all..

mds062778 said:
I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
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mis2810

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The informal inspection was annoying enough. Now, it's not only annoying, they've wasted a ton of money. Normally, they ask about the 10k and guns. Last Saturday no questions at all. Just recorded my plate number with the handheld computer.

mds062778 said:
I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
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jerry

jerry

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[when you guys stomp on the burning bag of dog poop on your porch...think of me
UOTE=GV Jack;78732]And those are his good qualities....:jerry2:[/QUOTE]
 
Mexico Joe

Mexico Joe

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mis2810 said:
The informal inspection was annoying enough. Now, it's not only annoying, they've wasted a ton of money. Normally, they ask about the 10k and guns. Last Saturday no questions at all. Just recorded my plate number with the handheld computer.
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Objection, hearsay. Sustained. Can you please give us a dollar figure? Facts only, generalizations aren't good for your health.
 
Roberto

Roberto

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Well the thing I saw was not cheap. Much less than a permanent bricks and mortar structure, but still a lot of money spent on a questionable government activity. I'm sure it was develped for military use and not intended to have a long lifespan. We used a higher end version when developing Indian Casinos in the 80's. Not real classy but slots up and running in 30 days and paid for itself in a couple of months !
 
brokenwave

brokenwave

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The Govt. doesn't know how to do anything cheap. The $$'s just light up in the contractor's eyes when they see a govt. project like this one. Point in case the $600k houses (for each) they built in Ajo recently for the Border Patrol. And the $100-200K used trailers also bought there for the Border Patrol stationed there. Now we should ensure some decent housing as a perk for the job but really. Gosh they could have bought for houses for $60K avg. and spent $150K each to totally refurbish them. My point in the previous postings about Mexico doing something like this is still to the point. Not as nice but does the job, lasts awhile doesn't cost too much and most importantly it's really just a really high tech expensive shade structure. Stepping off my soapbox.
 
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Terry C

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Problem is the drawings were most likely so lax on information they are bid as shown, industry standard. That's when the GC goes for the change orders big time. That's the was it was in industrial and commercial building years ago. The structural engineer and the architect got payed for changing the drawings. Then they got owners rep's that took care of that kinda sorta. They made you set down and show your charges. Does the Govt do this?

I think I found myself a new job... Not!

In this fast paced world there is no time to do it right the first time.
 
Roberto

Roberto

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brokenwave said:
Point in case the $600k houses (for each) they built in Ajo recently for the Border Patrol. And the $100-200K used trailers also bought there for the Border Patrol stationed there. .
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Where did you come up with those amounts? Got a reference? Thanks.
 
brokenwave

brokenwave

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PlayaPerro posted the link, Thx, I was shocked by the $$ and it was on the front page of the AZ Republic a few weeks back. The delegation from AZ was up
asked about it and promised to investigate, nothing yet but they were on Vacation again. Not like many positive things happen when congress is in session anyway. LOL


playaperroEl Pirata
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Where did you come up with those amounts? Got a reference? Thanks.
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/arizona/articles/20130811ajo-border-agent-housing.html
 
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