Penasco Sea Port is "Imminent," Casinos, Duty Free Stores a Must

[GringoZona]

http://www.sonoranresorts.mx/gus-brown-sets-the-record-straight-about-convention-center-and-home-port-during-recent-private-meeting/

“What will it take to make this happen?” Gus asked, jumping on this opportunity. The HAL executive outlined three essential requirements of any cruise line before they could consider a cruise itinerary anywhere. Those items included 1.) A steady supply of the special fuel required by a mega cruise ship, 2.) Government authorization to operate casinos on the Sea of Cortez, since it is not considered international water, and 3.) Government authorization to operate Duty Free stores on board the cruise ships.

Thoughts?

 

[jerry]

the ships stopped going to Mazatlan and Guaymas (well this month they aren't docking) If you know any Alaskans listen to them talk about the waste dumping from ships up there too...wonder if they had the Casinos going on the other Sea of Cortez stops?

 

[Mexico Joe]

the ships stopped going to Mazatlan and Guaymas (well this month they aren't docking) If you know any Alaskans listen to them talk about the waste dumping from ships up there too...wonder if they had the Casinos going on the other Sea of Cortez stops?

Jerry Im pretty sure I read the author say YES. The answer to your question is yes according to the author.

 

[bigfootbill]

As for the
DUTY FREE Store...........the US inspector going South has hindered sales so bad at UETA that they also might close...........
So whe is the USA protecting people driving into Mexico when they ar the one shipping the guns !!!!
Bill

 

[jerry]

i talked with a guy that is tight with someone close to the Browns and a member of the Az-Sonora Commission. The homeport (way bigger deal than a cruise stopping point) is the real deal.....the sound you now hear is me eating crow...again
The Sonoran big wigs are also really stoked by their meeting with that Idiot Trumps inbred offspring ....the good thing is the Mexican bigwigs believe these scam artists intend to do big things in Sonora (not sure if related but huge forsale signs on Costal Highway to the sea property South of Lobos are now gone..word is it sold) the the main condition the Trumps had was the Coastal Highway is finished. A few days ago as we were headed down to Libertad for lunch I counted a ten American rv caravan headed North on the Coastal and a 12 Jeep group headed south....The wierd thing is the pressuretreated posts/barbed wire fence that keeps cattle out also blocks all roads to the sea once you get 5 miles South of Lobos...this is great mountain bike terrain.

 

[bigfootbill]

Carnival Cruise Lines plans to invest more than $150 million to expand port infrastructure at destinations on Mexico’s Pacific and Caribbean coasts, the Tourism Secretariat said.
Carnival representatives and Mexican officials signed an agreement on the Caribbean island of Cozumel at a ceremony attended by President Felipe Calderon and tourism industry officials, the secretariat said.
The company has invested $100 million so far in Mexico and is now planning the development of nine new projects, such as the construction of a cruise terminal in Cozumel and another in Baja California Sur state, Carnival Cruise Lines president and CEO Gerard Cahill said.
The new projects will bolster foreign exchange earnings, create more direct and indirect jobs in the tourism industry, and increase cruise-passenger arrivals in Mexico, Cahill said.
Mexico is “an attractive destination for the development of tourism businesses,” the Carnival executive said.
Tourism industry leaders in the Caribbean resort city of Cancun, meanwhile, called on Calderon to back the campaign to counter the constant travel alerts for Mexico being issued by U.S. authorities.
Members of the Caribbean Business Coordinating Council, or CCEC, have launched the “Stop Warning, Our Tourists Are OK” campaign.
Cancun and the Riviera Maya welcome an average of 50,000 students from across the United States during spring break each year.
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[moore_rb]

I heard last weekend that the sandy beach port project was in jeopardy again - still some conflict over whether they can dredge enough loose sediment out to achieve the required depth necesary for cruise ships before hitting undredgable bedrock.

I also heard that the Mayan was moving forward again with the plan to build a marina in La Pinta estuary... anyone heard this?

 

[garyd]

If you have not done it yet google Costa Maya and see what was done there

 

[Jim]

I heard that it is still a go as planned but construction won't be starting until Spring 2013. No problem, that's only a few months away. I did hear from a very good source, but it's not built until it's built.

 

[GringoZona]

I heard last weekend that the sandy beach port project was in jeopardy again - still some conflict over whether they can dredge enough loose sediment out to achieve the required depth necesary for cruise ships before hitting undredgable bedrock.

I also heard that the Mayan was moving forward again with the plan to build a marina in La Pinta estuary... anyone heard this?

That would be sad if they messed up the estuary. What a disaster that could be.

 

[PitiquitoRosy]

http://www.sonoranresorts.mx/gus-brown-sets-the-record-straight-about-convention-center-and-home-port-during-recent-private-meeting/

“What will it take to make this happen?” Gus asked, jumping on this opportunity. The HAL executive outlined three essential requirements of any cruise line before they could consider a cruise itinerary anywhere. Those items included 1.) A steady supply of the special fuel required by a mega cruise ship, 2.) Government authorization to operate casinos on the Sea of Cortez, since it is not considered international water, and 3.) Government authorization to operate Duty Free stores on board the cruise ships.

Thoughts?

This is Mexico, James...nothing is 'imminent'.

 

[InkaRoads]

I heard that it is still a go as planned but construction won't be starting until Spring 2013. No problem, that's only a few months away. I did hear from a very good source, but it's not built until it's built.

Last Tuesday there was a meeting in Tucson with mostly directors of the OCV depts. from the different towns in Sonora and the word out was that the Home port is a for sure thing and construction should start at the end of 2012 beginning of 2013 with a completition date of 2015, but you know how those things go, it might be a long time before it actually takes place.

Also the director of Nogales, Mexico showed how impressive their effort to slow down violence there was and is, a monumental job these guys being doing, I doubt "Elvira's" will move back to Nogales!!!

 

[Ladyjeeper]

Now that was a good restaurant! The shots of tequila! Oh, the memories....

 

[Stuart]

The seaport will be finished in October. What year is anybody's guess. uff:

 

[Disneynut]

Elvira's. I miss you. My wife and I used to drive from our home in Phoenix to Nogales just for lunch. The good news is that they do have a new location in the U.S. (near Tubac).

As for the home port, I can only hope it turns out the way they say. What is very common in Mexico is for whomever is in power to create a number of projects where they hire their friends and family via large contracts. They push dirt around for a few years only to leave the project once the fund has run dry. Time will tell. It certainly would be great for Rocky Point if it is completed.

 

[jerry]

The Tubac one is nice but expensive

Elvira's. I miss you. My wife and I used to drive from our home in Phoenix to Nogales just for lunch. The good news is that they do have a new location in the U.S. (near Tubac).

As for the home port, I can only hope it turns out the way they say. What is very common in Mexico is for whomever is in power to create a number of projects where they hire their friends and family via large contracts. They push dirt around for a few years only to leave the project once the fund has run dry. Time will tell. It certainly would be great for Rocky Point if it is completed.

 

[MIRAMAR]

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[Wood Spinner]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Why so bad if they do dredge the estuary by the Myan. When I was a
boy in southern California I tried to get my parents to buy the
swamp, back bay at Newport Beach. They told me I was out of my
mind. Now look at it ! It to me is the most logical of
all of the proposed dredge projects for major development. My
problem is that it will cause financially devastating problems in
the city of Puerto Penasco and for that reason I hope it fails.[/FONT]

 

[mexicoruss]

Why so bad if they do dredge the estuary by the Myan. When I was a
boy in southern California I tried to get my parents to buy the
swamp, back bay at Newport Beach. They told me I was out of my
mind. Now look at it ! It to me is the most logical of
all of the proposed dredge projects for major development. My
problem is that it will cause financially devastating problems in
the city of Puerto Penasco and for that reason I hope it fails.

There are six major estuaries in the area around Puerto Peñasco. These estuaries are essential for life in the greater sea of Cortes', almost all living things in the sea of Cortes rely on the health of the estuaries that we still have, and many animals have spent some of their time in the estuaries. They are essential ecosystems. In the sea of Cortes' it may be hard to believe but 50% of all seafood consumed in the entire country of Mexico comes from the sea of Cortes', when you consider how big the gulf of Mexico is that is an amazing fact. If you kill the estuaries for marinas you can count on killing the sea of Cortes'. CEDO website.

 

[Stuart]

Bill, I'd buy into this (dredging La Pinta) except for one thing - they are going to have to dredge a channel for miles through the sand flats to get there. The channel at La Pinta is probably the deepest spot in the area. However, the beach along the Mayan and south along San Jorge is several miles of tidal flats before reaching any water that's more than a few feet deep. At extreme low tide, you can practically walk from San Jorge out to Bird Island. I've walked for miles on these flats fishing them and have taken pangas out of San Jorge where I could see the sandy bottom nearly all the way out to the island.

The draft on any of these cruise ships requires much deeper water. I could see the first time a captain unfamiliar with the area and tides strands one of these monster vessels. There aren't any high-powered tugs in Penasco to pull him free (at least yet, do I sense a business opportunity?). Shrimp boats barely have enough power to push themselves along. If he didn't float free on the next tide, you'd have new beach-front condos!

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