All ideas welcome...

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rplarry

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crimebuster said:
You are correct. This family went to the Las Conchas HOA board and shared their fears of Charles doing this to them after finding out he did this to another family in 2009. The HOA said they were sorry but didn't want to get involved. All the while the Las Conchas Board was unaware their own head of Security had co-conspired with Charles Carlis' premeditated plan to hire a lock smith, arrange for a moving truck a little over one year ago, and physically take possession of their home. The head of security had the balls to stand in the front yard and watch the thief and trespassing take place according to a number of eye witnesses.

By the way here is the home..... section 13, lot 10
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Really hard to believe this could happen, but sounds like it is happening by the evidence brought by crimebuster. Here is the actually listing. Funny that it states, "Priced to sell, won't last long." Yeah, I wonder why:

Rocky Point Real Estate Las Conchas Mexico Beachfront Real Estate Luxury Homes Rocky Point Puerto Penasco Mexico
 
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Terry C

Guest
Seems to me you would need your bank trust and any other paperwork to list it.
1. to see if the trust fees are current.
2. to see if the city tax is current.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Guest
I just get the feeling that there's something missing here.Whats the name of the people who allegedly had their house stolen, and was it paid for? If not, who were they in debt to?
 
GV Jack

GV Jack

Snorin God
This really pains me, but I totally agree with you Kenny.
(Man I've had easier root canals. It hurts more when I agree with Jerry, but you'll have to do.)

There is more here than meets the eye.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Guest
GV Jack said:
This really pains me, but I totally agree with you Kenny.
(Man I've had easier root canals. It hurts more when I agree with Jerry, but you'll have to do.)

There is more here than meets the eye.
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Go bang your head against the wall a few times, and it'll go away.
 
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crimebuster

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rplarry said:
Really hard to believe this could happen, but sounds like it is happening by the evidence brought by crimebuster. Here is the actually listing. Funny that it states, "Priced to sell, won't last long." Yeah, I wonder why:

Rocky Point Real Estate Las Conchas Mexico Beachfront Real Estate Luxury Homes Rocky Point Puerto Penasco Mexico
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The listing on the home is with Las Conchas Realty, a newly formed company owned by Glen Martinez. Once a home is on the MLS the listing appears via any real estate companies mls site. The family that legally owns this home purchased it from Charles Carlis in July, 2000. The sale was put together by a purchase contract. Mr Carlis wasn't interested in them paying cash for the home, he would only sell it owner financed at 10% interest. The family paid him in cash over a half million dollars for the home. In the spring of 2010 the family discoveried Mr. Carlis never intended to complete the contract with them. FYI he did this to another family who owns Sec. 13, Lot 18 in 2009.

Yep, at $195,000 it sure is a bargain....when you stop to think the legal owner of the property has faithfully lived the purchase contract for over 10 years, knowing now that Mr. Carlis never intended to complete the contract. He has collected in cash over $800,000 from two families, runs them off between 2009 and 10' has both homeowners properties listed with Glen Martinez. All the while Glen Martinez is fully aware of Charles criminal activity. He is also aware both familes have five lawyers representing them with criminal charges of theft and trespassing filed...along with civil suits.

What a scam.....and of course he will only attempt to sell their homes owner financed because he is a thief.
 
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crimebuster

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Terry C said:
Seems to me you would need your bank trust and any other paperwork to list it.
1. to see if the trust fees are current.
2. to see if the city tax is current.
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He is not giving full disclosure in the listings that both these homes have valid purchase contracts entered in to with Mr. Carlis a number of years ago. Mr. Carlis is just creating along with Mr. Glen Martinez additional victims.
 
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crimebuster

Guest
Kenny said:
I just get the feeling that there's something missing here.Whats the name of the people who allegedly had their house stolen, and was it paid for? If not, who were they in debt to?
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What's missing here is both these parties cannot complete their purchase contracts because Charles Carlis will not let them. Like any financial scheme he could no longer financed his life style. So, Mr. Carlis needs to create more victims.
 
GV Jack

GV Jack

Snorin God
You said, " with criminal charges of theft and trespassing filed"

Is it safe to assume that good old Charlie is hiding out in the U.S? If not, why hasn't the law gone after him?
If so, obviously he doesn't want to come to Mexico for fear of being arrested. So here's my question.
What is to keep the plantiffs from getting a locksmith. retaking the property and telling Mr. Martinez to take a hike.
From other discussions on this forum, I seem to get the feeling that in Mexico, possession IS 9/10ths of the law.

I'm not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and if this deal is as fraudulant as you make it,
why would Martinez knowingly take part in it? Wouldn't that make him a party to the conspiracy? Does he have a history of
sordid deal making?

Do the owners have a written contract with Uncle Charlie and if so, do they have proof they have paid what was owed?
Is there any history of late or skipped payments. So many questions, so little time.

Finally, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is your interest in all this? Are you one of the aggrieved parties or just a good
Samaritan.
 
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rockyptjoe

rockyptjoe

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Not being up on various types of real estate transactions....what is a "purchase contract"? And how does it work vis-a-vis Bank Trusts in Mexico?
 
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crimebuster

Guest
You said; "So here's my question.
What is to keep the plantiffs from getting a locksmith. retaking the property and telling Mr. Martinez to take a hike.
From other discussions on this forum, I seem to get the feeling that in Mexico, possession IS 9/10ths of the law."

The plantiffs did hire a locksmith last spring after they were given a heads-up by neighbors who observed Charles Carlis and the head of Las Conchas security standing in the front yard observing all the homeowners belongings, vehicle, furniture, clothing being removed from their home.

The plaintiffs along with several of their lawyers went to the home with a locksmith and took their home back. Charles Carlis hired another locksmith and took the home...again....breaking and entering. He then moved in to their home and has been there ever since then.

The plaintiffs and their team of lawyers told Glen Martinez to take a hike last fall when he listed the property he defied the lawyers and the plaintiffs, as he is demonstrating now. Obviously, it's all about money.

You asked why hasn't the law taken action? Good Question !!!The plaintiffs and their lawyers have been working with the courts since the spring of 2010.
 
Roberto

Roberto

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rockyptjoe said:
Not being up on various types of real estate transactions....what is a "purchase contract"? And how does it work vis-a-vis Bank Trusts in Mexico?
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That simply a private agreement between two parties, in this case an agreement to buy/sell a home. It is independent from and unrelated to a Bank Trust. In the case of a private contract the Bank Trust stays in the name of the seller until the contract is satisfied. After the contract is satisfied the Notario will collect information and process the application for a transfer or new Trust.
 
Stuart

Stuart

Aye carumba!!!
Staff member
Damn. Quite the scam and a very sordid little tale. I don't personally know any, but I have heard that there are "people that know people" that can take care of a problem like this for you. For a price, of course. If it were me, I think I'd be asking around...
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az-dan

az-dan

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Kenny

Kenny

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I can see that LK&CC are on the forum in the "Who's online" pop up, but I guess their not ready to respond to this thread yet... I'm thinking their taking the fifth.
 
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lagrimas85

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Is this the property, that had a balloon payment due on it, that the buyer could not make, but found another buyer to take out his position and the seller wouldn't permit it or it happened after the due date of the balloon payment? Jusk asking, I remember hearing a year or 2 ago about something like this in Las Conchas.
 
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