Shrimp fishing is back The Mexican government halted shrimp fishing in northern area

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Shrimp fishing is back

The Mexican government halted shrimp fishing in northern areas of the Gulf of California because overfishing became a threat to aquatic species.







Rocky Point Mayor Alejandro Zepeda Munro It was a slow, difficult process, but we learned that by protecting the environment and diminishing short-term ambitions, we were, in fact, preserving our livelihoods in the long-run."

Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:00 pm | Updated: 2:39 pm, Wed Nov 9, 2011.
By Keith Rosenblum, for Inside Tucson Business | 0 comments
PUERTO PEÑASCO, Sonora - The word "simmering" usually applies when cooking something like a seafood soup - and not the fishermen whose livelihood depends on month-long trips into high seas.
Yet, the word describes accurately the conflict that, until recently, had stunted and even paralyzed the fleet of shrimp fishermen based here and lead to street demonstrations, highway seizures and other disobedience.
That hatchet - or better yet, harpoon - has been buried thanks to the efforts of groups known more for their antipathy toward one another than any willingness to converse. The players: a Rocky Point mayor from one party, veteran fishermen from the virulent political opposition, supposedly apolitical Mexican federal ministries and international environmental organizations.
The result: Rocky Point's fleet headed out Oct. 11 for the first time in 15 years to a section of the Alto Golfo and Rio Colorado Delta Biosphere. Up to 64 vessels are being allowed to fish but only 21 at a given moment. This follows a ban imposed by the Mexican government, which sought to both protect the vaquita porpoise and prevent over-harvesting of other species.
"We made ourselves into a team, put aside a batch of other differences - and there are plenty - and went to bat for Peñasco," said Mayor Alejandro Zepeda Munro. "If this group could forge a deal, there's hope for any conflict in the world."
Until the 1970s, fishing was not merely a way of life in Rocky Point but essentially the only way of life. Except for sport fishermen and outdoors types from Arizona, who camped along unnamed beaches, there were no tourists, no full-time Americans, no anything except for the catches and the canning and freezing industries dependent on them.
The economy is more diverse today, but still ebbs according to what comes back in the shrimp vessels. Though Rocky Point is now often defined by its tourism reputation, its mainstay is shrimp whose quality is known throughout Mexico and the United States. Last year, 9,500 tons were harvested. Fishing contributes $45 million annually to the economy while tourism brings in about one third that amount, the mayor said.
"For us, environmental protection in the short-term meant loss of jobs, it was that direct of a connection," said Zepeda.
The mayor traveled regularly to Mexico City with fishermen and others to coordinate strategies with environmental groups such as Natural Resources Council.
"It was a slow, difficult process, but we learned that by protecting the environment and diminishing short-term ambitions, we were, in fact, preserving our livelihoods in the long-run," he said.
Under the arrangement, fishermen are being monitored by the Mexican Navy, the Fisheries ministry and the Procuraduría Federal de Protección al Ambiente (PROFEPA), which is Mexico's equivalent to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
In an interview, Mateo Lopez, president of the fishermen's association, said members had agreed to pay special taxes, carry monitors on board, practice harvesting methods that exclude accidental trapping of secondary species, use technologies approved by PROFEPA and submit to on-site audits.
Peggy Turk Boyer, a founder of Centro Intercultural de Estudios de Desiertos y Océanos (CEDO), a pioneer Rocky Point research institute, said another 90 large shrimp boats, which did not fish last year because they refused to comply with environmental impact study requirements, are going out this year "under very strict guidelines."
CEDO, whose research on the rare vaquita porpoise lead to its protection, has itself carried out an environmental impact study for 825 fishermen on small boats known as "pangas." Those fishermen have adhered to all of the new rules, she said.
 
Does anyone really believe the shrimpers will continue to follow the rules and regulations they have agreed to? And that the Navy and Fisheries Ministry will do anything about it? I guess I'm a cynic when it comes to matters like that!
 
Does anyone really believe the shrimpers will continue to follow the rules and regulations they have agreed to? And that the Navy and Fisheries Ministry will do anything about it? I guess I'm a cynic when it comes to matters like that!
Yep... kinda what I was thinking Joe... just when things looked like they were coming back to life, there goes the neighborhood...

First the gypsy scallop divers were out there running-a-muc havesting the bay scallops as well as the black & pink murex while they were reproducing, (I regularly witnessed male murex with egg casing on their shells being loaded off pangas) now the trawlers with their archaic method of shrimping will scrape the sea floor of all the gorgonians, soft corals and other bottom growth that acted as nesting areas and safe cover for the eggs of many sea creatures...

I can't understand why they just won't leave that one small portion of this huge sea alone as a sanctuary... oh sure, they can regulate the quantity of shrimp being taken out of the sea by limiting the number of boats allowed to fish the area, but they don't see or want to acknowledge the amount of damage they are doing to the sea floor as they drag their nets over it...
 
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I read years ago that the area north of Penasco was too saline for shrimp, since not enough fresh water was running down the Colorado into the sea to dilute it????
 

DeeDee

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I read years ago that the area north of Penasco was too saline for shrimp, since not enough fresh water was running down the Colorado into the sea to dilute it????
I'm confused RPJ, I live on/at the pacific ocean, nothing but salt water, there is major shrimp harvesting done here. what do you mean that it was too saline? am I missing something?
 
DeeDee... the salinity in the Gulf of California a.k.a. Sea of Cortez is much higher than most other seas and oceans... if you ever noticed how easy it is to float in the Sea of Cortez the high salinity is the reason... in the upper gulf where the water is shallow and has a greater evaporation rate the salinity is very high because as the water evaporates it deposits it's salt content in the tidal flats... there are many areas around the upper gulf that are salt flats because of the evaporation, there are places where the sea salt is harvested also known as salt farms, so more salt equals higher salinity...
 

mexicoruss

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DSCN1265.jpgKenny, I think long after we are gone that the way the earth is structured it will rebuild itself despite what man has done, in the meantime you may as well try some sea salt from San Felipe Baja Ca. It is too awesome.
 

InkaRoads

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Does anyone really believe the shrimpers will continue to follow the rules and regulations they have agreed to? And that the Navy and Fisheries Ministry will do anything about it? I guess I'm a cynic when it comes to matters like that!
hopefuly as they say: "In an interview, Mateo Lopez, president of the fishermen's association, said members had agreed to pay special taxes, carry monitors on board, practice harvesting methods that exclude accidental trapping of secondary species, use technologies approved by PROFEPA and submit to on-site audits"

If they have to buy the equipment to pass the audit, might as well use it, and do it right to stay in business, the fishermen have already been fined and jailed for breaking the law before
 

DeeDee

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DeeDee... the salinity in the Gulf of California a.k.a. Sea of Cortez is much higher than most other seas and oceans... if you ever noticed how easy it is to float in the Sea of Cortez the high salinity is the reason... in the upper gulf where the water is shallow and has a greater evaporation rate the salinity is very high because as the water evaporates it deposits it's salt content in the tidal flats... there are many areas around the upper gulf that are salt flats because of the evaporation, there are places where the sea salt is harvested also known as salt farms, so more salt equals higher salinity...
Thanks, that reminds me of the salt flats just out side of Salt Lake City, heading towards WENDOVER. can't wait to drive through Laughlin (in January), canadian casinos suck.
 

AZ ROB

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One can always hope that the outdated maps dont show all the reefs and they tear the nets up on the rocks..
 

InkaRoads

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One will think that before the Mayor went all the way to Mexico DF to speak for the fisherman that before hand he, the mayor, made the fishermen agreed to use all the new technologies that the gov. requieres them to use in order to be able to fish the area and go thru all the audits and inspections.
It saddeness me to see that you guys are willing to bet in the failure of the people of Penasco rather than wish for the best for them as a whole and possibly have a win win situation here, just like the drugs we bitch about, we are the ones buying them and creating the demand, so legal or illegal we are in the same boat!! bitch, bitch, bitch!!!
 
Inks... I'm all for the people of Penasco succeeding and prospering... it's just that the method used to catch shrimp is archaic and they necessarily need to drag those big heavy wooden pallet looking things that are on the shrimp boats along the bottom in front of the nets to bring the shrimp up off the bottom in order to get them into the nets and that is what is destroying the growth of soft corals, gorgonians, carpet anenome, sea pens and other plant and animal life on the sea floor...

and no matter what they say there will always be a large amount of bicatch that is mainly killed and tossed overboard as trash... and I admit I'm guilty of being part of problem, because I enjoy eating shrimp... I feel sorry everytime I'm having a shrimp dinner because of that fact... (at least until they are all gone from my plate)

I think I'll start eating more tofu... or maybe not...
 

Mexico Joe

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One will think that before the Mayor went all the way to Mexico DF to speak for the fisherman that before hand he, the mayor, made the fishermen agreed to use all the new technologies that the gov. requieres them to use in order to be able to fish the area and go thru all the audits and inspections.
It saddeness me to see that you guys are willing to bet in the failure of the people of Penasco rather than wish for the best for them as a whole and possibly have a win win situation here, just like the drugs we bitch about, we are the ones buying them and creating the demand, so legal or illegal we are in the same boat!! bitch, bitch, bitch!!!

We're not creating demand, the "GOOD" ~~~~~MOTA~~~~~ comes from California or grown here in AZ domestically! Blame the WT in Kentucky for the METH epidemic thats supplying the cartels!
 

AZ ROB

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Mark Not to sure if there is any new Technology for shrimping. http://www.history.com/shows/big-shrimpin looks like the nets and TEDS are the same as in Penasco just newer faster boats. they still drag bottom and pull up a ton of by catch. I am not against the bottom dragging in the sand as the coral doesn't grow in the sand
 
An excerpt out of a paper...


The Sea of Cortez
edited by
David L. Alles
Western Washington University
e-mail: [email protected]
This web paper was last updated 8/4/07.


“The economic development strategy was wrong. It broke all authority over
fishing.” Jerónimo Ramos, the national fisheries commissioner, is based in Mexico
City. He said about 1,200 permits existed for boats in the Gulf of California and
the Pacific Ocean, estimating that 20 to 30 percent of the catch was being taken
illegally. León Tissot of Mexico’s National Fishing Industry Council says that
“there is an illegal traffic in permits.” Fishermen say permits are bought under the
table, sold and resold, ignored with impunity. “The laws are totally clear, and their
application is totally cloudy,” said Felipe Rodríguez, a scientist working with the
fishermen of the Seri Indian tribe. Fishermen, businessmen, scientists and even
some federal officials say at least 12,000 unregulated fishing boats, probably more,
now are at large in the gulf, a number that doubled in the last decade. “It’s the law
of the jungle out there,” said Luis Bourillón, a marine biologist in Guaymas. “You
can do anything you want.”
The unregulated boats, whose crews include thousands of men who came to
the coast in the 1990’s looking for a living, set gill nets, nylon webs banned by
many nations as a barbaric and indiscriminate form of fishing, but not in Mexico.
More than 1,000 miles of gill nets were sold in Sonora last year. Gill nets trap
everything: endangered sea turtles, sea lions, even the vaquita, a rare porpoise on
the edge of extinction. They take so many sailfish, tuna and marlins that the rich
American sports fishermen who considered the gulf a paradise are staying home —
another drain on the local economy.
A gill net fleet backed by unknown financiers appeared seven years ago in
Sonora. Fishermen and scientists say it slaughters thousands of sharks solely for
their fins, which when dried sell for as much as $300 a pound in Asian markets.
The fishing boats also play out long lines, each with hundreds of baited hooks,
reaching for miles. The long-liners land as much as 20 tons a day of dorado, sold
as mahi-mahi, in the port of Guaymas alone, along with unrecorded illegal catches
like sea turtles, which can sell for as much as $200 apiece in Mexican black
markets. The high price of turtle meat and shark fins, founded on male folklore
long predating Viagra, spurs the fleet.
The shrimp fleet wreaks its own separate havoc. Shrimping throughout the
world uses bottom-scraping dragnets that haul up 10 pounds of life — often young
fish too small to sell — for every pound of shrimp, like gathering wild mushrooms
with a bulldozer. Underwater, “one day there’s all kinds of fish, crab, octopus,
maybe a turtle, and the next day it’s empty, nothing but rocks and a sandy bottom,”
said Feliza Ríos, a scuba diving instructor in San Carlos who has seen the effect at
first hand. “It takes years, many years, to come back.” Discarded shrimp nets do
more damage: one strangled three whales last week.
A pound of Mexican shrimp sells for $16 or more in American markets, and
though Mexico no longer directly subsidizes shrimp boats, it underwrites the fleet
through a quasi-governmental, California-based corporation called Ocean Gardens,
which buys half of its catch. So the shrimpers work the sea floor as hard as they
can.
Recognition is now dawning that if nothing changes, “in a few years, you
could end up without any fish in the sea,” said Víctor Lichtinger, Mexico’s​
environmental minister.

"The two most commonly caught "jumbo" shrimp of the Mexican fishery are
the brown shrimp,​
Penaeus californiensis (shown above), and the blue shrimp,

Penaeus stylirostris​
. Shrimp are caught by otter trawls that are dragged over the
sea floor for miles scraping up sea life in their path. It is the most destructive
method of commercial fishing in the world since the trawls kill and waste millions
of tons of marine animals, including the juveniles of several species of commercial
fishes, especially the endangered totoaba." Dr. Donald A. Thomson
Web Reference

http://eebweb.arizona.edu/marine/gulf_ca/ecology.htm
 
More out of this same paper.....looks like we have a second "sell-out" with the current regulations.......

DON JULIO'S COMPLAINT​
By Gene Kira, October 13, 2003, as originally published in​
Western Outdoor News

Of the many conservationists working to protect Mexico's sea life, none is
more outspoken or more respected than Don Julio Berdegué of Mazatlán. Don
Julio was born in Madrid on April 14, 1931, and his father was a physician in the
Spanish Civil War. After his family moved to Mexico City, Don Julio began a
fantastic career as a businessman, hotelier, and marine biologist that included
working with Dr. Boyd W. Walker of UCLA to produce the first taxonomic study
of the endangered totoaba in the early 1950s.
By 1962, Don Julio had built and sold Mexico's largest commercial shrimp
fleet, and by 1994, he had built the marble-lined El Cid Mega Resort in Mazatlán,
Mexico's largest independent resort, with its own marina, 1,200 rooms, four hotels,
two golf courses, a sea turtle nursery, a 1,000-home housing development, and the
Aries Fleet sport fishing operation. He is a true Renaissance Man, with a bitingly
satirical sense of humor and an intellect broad enough to discuss the subtler points
of Japanese etiquette, or to appreciate the writings of Gabriel García Márquez in
English or Spanish. (In his spare time, he is now busying himself with building
another resort complex in Cancún.)
Because of his heavy-duty, insider knowledge of biology, commercial fishing,
and large scale tourism, Julio Berdegué is one conservationist who cannot be swept
under the carpet, and because of his very strong personal character, he is willing to
speak forcefully when others falter. Recently, Don Julio published a personal
statement of disgust with Mexico's marine conservational policies that was
startlingly frank, even for him.
This statement by one of the most respected men in Mexico is notable for its
honestly, it's direct and patent criticism of the government's policies, and most of
all the courage of Don Julio Berdegué to speak out while many others are more
concerned with covering their backsides . Here is Don Julio's complaint, unedited
and in its entirety:
"We have begun to see the results of the firing by President Fox two weeks
ago of Mr. Lichtinger, Secretary of SEMARNAT, as well as Under Secretary Raul
Arriaga Becerra and Director of PROFEPA, Lic. Jose I. Campillo. The fight
between Lichtinger, who tried hard to protect the whales and the forests, the reefs,
the reserved zones of the Biosphere in Mexico, etc., against the Secretary of
Agriculture, Forest and Fisheries, Javier Usabiaga, resulted in an absolute loss for
Mr. Lichtinger.
We knew Lichtinger was bound for disaster. Usabiaga is probably the closest
friend in the Cabinet of Mr. Fox. Now, tell me ¡What is new in Mexico! and I can
tell you: Absolutely nothing. Friends and Contributors of the Politicians regardless
of their ineptitude, are still preferred to a well known scientist trying to do a good
job.
Today, the Fishery Commission opened the shrimp season allowing the
capture of shrimp with trawlers in the open seas. They included the area in the Alto
Golfo of the Mar de Cortes, that was closed to fishing last year in an effort to
protect the remaining vaquita. Big win for the Armadores of the Camara Pesquera,
especially those of Sonora, Peñasco, Guaymas and San Felipe, and Baja California.
A very sad day for all of us who have tried so hard to prevent fishing in this and
other protected areas. Now, they can again fish until the vaquita, the totoaba, and
several other endemic species are extinct. And soon, the Alto Golfo protected area
will be followed by the Revillagigedo Archipelago and all the other protected
areas.
Shame on Mr. Usabiaga. He probably will now go to the FAO, International
Tuna Commissions, and other Scientific bodies claiming the tremendous efforts of
Mexico to protect our whales, billfishes, and pelagic migratory species, and other
similar lies."​
-- Julio Berdegue.

Web Reference​
http://www.bajadestinations.com/afish/afish2003/afish031013/afish031013.htm
 

jerry

Guest
http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/SeafoodWatch/web/sfw_fishmap.aspx this is cool...a Puerto Penasco restaurant that made the effort to offer sustainable catch might set itself apart from the rest.

Ink, this " but out and let the Mexicans solve the problem" tack hasn't worked yet.In 1970 iIdined nightly on Rock Lobster in Rocky Point (all fished out now),,,,boycott bad practices..reward good practices...it works with donkeys,goverments and businessmen all!
 
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