Immigration Office in Penasco at new location

[PitiquitoRosy]

Answer to Gato's Question:

I found the following and it looks like if one is retired here - receiving Social Security - living full time - that under the new "point" system one could qualify for “Residente Permanente“ immediately. How is anyone else reading it? Rosy, in particuar - Would love it if we just had to apply once more. Does anyone have any idea what the fees will be for applying for either Permanent or temp. residente visas?

"A lot of us are wondering about the point system, but don't need to worry about it because of Article 54 which is quoted below and then my translation into English follows:

>>>>>
Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos:
I. Por razones de asilo político, reconocimiento de la condición de refugiado y protección complementaria o por la determinación de apátrida, previo cumplimiento de los requisitos establecidos en esta Ley, su Reglamento y demás disposiciones jurídicas aplicables;
II. Por el derecho a la preservación de la unidad familiar en los supuestos del artículo 55 de esta Ley;

III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el paí<<<<<<<<<<<<
Article 54: The permanent resident status will be given to WHICHEVER of the the following apply:
I. For political asylum
II. To preserve family unity as noted in article 55 of this law.
III. TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE A PENSION FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANISM OR A PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR SERVICES RENDERED WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO PERMIT THEM TO LIVE IN MEXICO.
I qualify under condition III as do many of us here in México. In fact it would seem that many here who might be able to qualify for the old FM3 should be able to qualify
under condition III.
Am I reading this new law incorrectly? "

We met with Lic. Alan Cano the Chief of Migracion in Penasco and his first comment was about how impressed he is with you, Gato, for finding this information and providing it here in both languages.

He explained that we're still a few months away from the new rules being completely implemented, so some of the fees and conditions will be determined along the way. He also said that everything is subject to change.

You were right, retirees who live here permanently will qualify for FM2 status. Living here permanently means not being out of Mexico for more than 2 months at a time. It is important not to confuse the term "Permanent Resident" with what they call "Definitive Resident" or Immigrado status, which is the one just before Mexican citizenship.

I know this answer will bring more questions out of the woodwork ('cause I knows my peeps), so please post them and we'll get more answers for you. Hope this helps.

 

[Roberto]

Ok:

Probably premature to ask but,
How does one demonstrate they live here permanently? In the past I seem to recall you had to provide utility bills for a 2 year period, every one, none missing.

I'd love to get the skinny when the dust settles. Thanks.

 

[PitiquitoRosy]

Ok:

Probably premature to ask but,
How does one demonstrate they live here permanently? In the past I seem to recall you had to provide utility bills for a 2 year period, every one, none missing.

I'd love to get the skinny when the dust settles. Thanks.

We'll stay on this and get the answers. I'm reminded of a time when I still used an FM3, that Migracion actually went to my house to look for me. Of course I always suspected that visit was related to my lawsuit. It was later confirmed by that same person, after he had been transferred out of the area. Not that he was there to check whether I lived here or not, but it does tell me that they're ready to make house calls if needed.