Omars brother responded after I reposted this on another forum….everyone wants to know who the “ real estatecprofessionals” were that didnt warn you away from this know minefield. “
Samuel Saenz
I am writing this on my behalf, as well as my brother’s Omar. I wish I had the space and time to answer all doubts and concerns but we would not get anywhere. First, You and I don’t know mexican laws to the depth of understanding them and give a fair opinion in here. Mostly, we gossip. Sometimes gossip needs facts to become a good and fair discussion.
A couple things that need correcting….
as mentioned above, I didn’t go past the sign.
….you said if the realtor was blocked, that should be a reason not to buy. I clearly stated that there was no sign of any conflict, dispute or blocking access until several weeks
after the sale was closed and remodeling had already started. So that statement does not apply
I never said you stole materials, only that they went missing. Not just materials, but some furniture, bbque and other items. No, I don’t think Omar wanted a used bbq grill and swiped it in the middle of the night. When a project sits dormant for 2 years, things grow legs and walk away…I worked construction for many years also. Im sure you can attest that this happens on unsecured job sites, which this definitely was. My point was being blocked from finishing the job didnt allow me to finish installing those materials
as for the realtor signs, I was repeating what I was told, so if it didn’t happen that way, then I apologize if it that was mischaracterized
the reason i posted this on rocky point talk was to seek insight from people. I related my experience as it happened to me. I love Mexico, doesn’t mean I have to pretend that there aren’t problems. It’s not my job to promote tourism, the city has a guy for that. I have a real estate issue and posted in a real estate sub forum hoping the collective wisdom here might be helpful…and it has been.
these admittedly gossipy details distract form the bigger picture and questions here.
When Omar arranged a meeting to offer to sell the property we just bought, you can imagine that was confusing since we had a valid bank trust and all the documents that Mexico states we need to own this property. with this proof of ownership in hand, a man I never heard of is offering to sell me that same land. To your point Samuel, that he was offering to sell the land, i said “ if we wanted access to our property, he would sell
it to us for $100,000 “. I was meaning that he was selling the land, as well as stating that without purchasing this from him, there was no other way he would allow us access to the area…maybe semantics but buying the land would also grant access, they were connected.
after this meeting, I began to learn about these tittle disputes, and overlapping claims of ownership. It didn’t seem possible both Omar and the realtors could be right. Thats why I hired and independent attorney to find out where this had gone wrong and who was accountable, and how I might recoup some of my losses. He concluded that the sale was proper and was recognized by all the officials, banks, and everyone who signed off on this.
My gut told me that this would be a ridiculously long process to sort out, and years would be wasted. When I met with Omar, we left with the understanding that I needed time to look into what was going on and investigate if the sale was bogus and if I needed to go after the realty company And I would be back in touch. It took several months to look into all this to even have an idea of all that was in play. I reached out to Omar many times to work this out with him. I found a way to get financial help to be in a position to sit down with Omar and hopefully his 100,000 offer would resolve the issue once and for all, but He wouldn't return calls or emails. Why make an offer and then ghost me? Of course, during this time, my realtor and attorney where meeting with the city officials to present all their evidence of ownership. They are doing their job standing by a client to try to fix this mess.
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I have some sincere questions for you if you have insights into this: no one else seems to know.
That home is decades old, Omar wasn’t in possession of it and The sellers had no affiliation with the saenz that I’m aware of. Where the previous owners living on Omar’s property and Omars house and he didn’t mind until after I bought it? What am I missing? Why didn’t he take possession in 2017?
How do you view the bank trust and title that I have? Is it not valid? And if not, why? When I bought this property, what did I actually buy?
Since Omar is a proper and reasonable guy, why did he cut off all communication to try and resolve this….I’ve been open to that the entire time. I can think of lot better things both parties could spend money on rather than lawyer fees. This could have been resolved long ago.
I never said Omar is a mad man. I know he has his reasons…. I don’t think he is a crazy guy on a dozer crushing houses. His approach to this doesn’t make sense to me, as I see mutually beneficial solutions. I think he is being shortsighted, but I don’t know his reasons. I don’t know who cheated who decades ago, but it wasn’t me. Sounds like bad blood and grudges go deep in that part of town.
I do think it is brazen to tear down a house that is in dispute. Your definition of brazen is wrong. it means to do something in a bold and shocking way. I think it fits. It completely ignores all the valid government documents That exist.
I also stand by my opinion that there is a conflict of interest when Omar is part of the administration that is supposed to be helping resolve the issue in a fair manner. You don’t think there is any unfair influence and he should recuse himself in these situations? Of course he can support his interests, but wouldn’t it be proper to keep these interests seperate? There are many active lawsuits regarding access to homes, other properties in dispute, but this is from others on the beach that know the situation and have reached out to me to relate their experiences.…so, yes, Just gossip.
Samuel, your well thought out response is appreciated. Know that I am a regular, honest hard working man who was just trying to fulfill a lifelong dream and for over 2 years i have been trying to resolve this. Im not on facebook, but maybe you will see this here
