Las Palomas update?

[dry heat]

You are the master of trying to confuse things. I am VERY clear on all this.

And No you said " If you want to think that the problem is owners and not WWG". If I am not correct, the TC are the owners and they work very closely with the SC, especially the phase II SC. You know, the parts are interchangeable. Some TC members become SC members. Funny how that works.

And oh yes, I know who the SC is. All of the SC.

Here is a deeper thought for you... Why would the current operator be so willing to do what owners want, when they are in the process of being replaced? Also, if I had it my way the operator would force all owners to upgrade their units to 4 diamond standards (ex. flat screen tv's, no cheap blinds, no cheap furniture). Hopefully the next operator will do something about that, unfortunately my owner powers can't get this operator to do this and remove all the units in the rental pool that are not up to par.
The rental operator can do as they please, if they say that owners supported their decision or advised with them... so be it. The enforcer and decision maker is still the rental operator, not an owner or group of owners (might sound powerful for an owner to claim otherwise, however not one or 3 people are going to make a difference to the operator). now if that 3 people turned into 400, then it would make a difference.
Here I will twist words for ya to sound like we are one "curiousgeorge and I agree that improvements need to be made with the resort". True statement huh?

No my little bumble bee, you don't know. The TC is comprised of more owners from phase 1. keep reaching

 

[curiousgeorge]

Here is a deeper thought for you... Why would the current operator be so willing to do what owners want, when they are in the process of being replaced? Also, if I had it my way the operator would force all owners to upgrade their units to 4 diamond standards (ex. flat screen tv's, no cheap blinds, no cheap furniture). Hopefully the next operator will do something about that, unfortunately my owner powers can't get this operator to do this and remove all the units in the rental pool that are not up to par.
The rental operator can do as they please, if they say that owners supported their decision or advised with them... so be it. The enforcer and decision maker is still the rental operator, not an owner or group of owners (might sound powerful for an owner to claim otherwise, however not one or 3 people are going to make a difference to the operator). now if that 3 people turned into 400, then it would make a difference.
Here I will twist words for ya to sound like we are one "curiousgeorge and I agree that improvements need to be made with the resort". True statement huh?

No my little bumble bee, you don't know. The TC is comprised of more owners from phase 1. keep reaching

While WWG is being replaced, they reserve the right of approval on who replace them. That answers your question.

WWG has many interests that are potentially more profitable and they need to preserve what is already there. Two years ago, all of their assets were valued at a little over $100 million. Worth less now. But they are in for the long haul.

We do agree that improvements need to be made. We may agree on more than you think. But you concede nothing....or are not listening. Mine and others concerns is that we, as owners, do not make things worse by over regulating and not focusing on the big issues. This six day rule is an assault on all owners. It is squashing a pea with a sledgehammer. And let's all be honest...it was encouraged if not driven by a small group representing the TC. This was not suggested by WWG. Once again, using a big picture view:

- How many extra cheats to you think you are going to catch with this new 6 day rule? Aren't there enough rules already in place to catch the cheats?

- how many owners, who had no problem with the other rules, are now pissed off with the SC/TC now losing credibility.

- how can you trust WWG to accurately manage this process? Will innocent owners now be inconvienced or even worse falsely accused?

Finally, how many owners will not buy resales at LP because of rules like this?

 

[dry heat]

While WWG is being replaced, they reserve the right of approval on who replace them. That answers your question.

WWG has many interests that are potentially more profitable and they need to preserve what is already there. Two years ago, all of their assets were valued at a little over $100 million. Worth less now. But they are in for the long haul.

We do agree that improvements need to be made. We may agree on more than you think. But you concede nothing....or are not listening. Mine and others concerns is that we, as owners, do not make things worse by over regulating and not focusing on the big issues. This six day rule is an assault on all owners. It is squashing a pea with a sledgehammer. And let's all be honest...it was encouraged if not driven by a small group representing the TC. This was not suggested by WWG. Once again, using a big picture view:

- How many extra cheats to you think you are going to catch with this new 6 day rule? Aren't there enough rules already in place to catch the cheats?

- how many owners, who had no problem with the other rules, are now pissed off with the SC/TC now losing credibility.

- how can you trust WWG to accurately manage this process? Will innocent owners now be inconvienced or even worse falsely accused?

Finally, how many owners will not buy resales at LP because of rules like this?

The cheating is a lot bigger problem that just a handful of owners. I would assume that when the situation is under controlled, we would hopefully see a relaxing of regulations (just a guess or assumption)
We are in a transition period that will eventually result in a new rental operator and a new HOA administrator (the intent is to improve the product and service on both sides). example: control and lower expense on the HOA side, improve the rental experience for owners and guests on the rental side
The 6 nights per night restriction in an inconvinience and unfortunately it appears a necessaty to hopefuly fix a problem at the resort (for the current operator and the next one). As I said above, I would think that once we have a better handle on this problem (renting outside of the rental operator- by the way Las Palomas has the biggest reputation in penasco for having wild cat renting) we should hopefully see a relaxing of rules. Hopefully it is a temporary solution that takes care of a problem that will result in a better product for existing owners and potential owners.
Personally, I am more concerned over control of the operation and HOA (the 6 day thing is an inconvinience like not being able to park my boat in the garage). Just my opinion.

 

[curiousgeorge]

The cheating is a lot bigger problem that just a handful of owners. I would assume that when the situation is under controlled, we would hopefully see a relaxing of regulations (just a guess or assumption)
We are in a transition period that will eventually result in a new rental operator and a new HOA administrator (the intent is to improve the product and service on both sides). example: control and lower expense on the HOA side, improve the rental experience for owners and guests on the rental side
The 6 nights per night restriction in an inconvinience and unfortunately it appears a necessaty to hopefuly fix a problem at the resort (for the current operator and the next one). As I said above, I would think that once we have a better handle on this problem (renting outside of the rental operator- by the way Las Palomas has the biggest reputation in penasco for having wild cat renting) we should hopefully see a relaxing of rules. Hopefully it is a temporary solution that takes care of a problem that will result in a better product for existing owners and potential owners.
Personally, I am more concerned over control of the operation and HOA (the 6 day thing is an inconvinience like not being able to park my boat in the garage). Just my opinion.

Unfortunately, rules rarely ever relax, if policy is not reversed, this will only embolden those in charge (in the case the joint WWG/TC team) to take things further when this ultimately does not achieve the results desired.

This is a BIG issue for many owners, not just an inconvenience. I suppose it is a matter of perspective. The TC and SC are filled with owners who own multiple units, both in LP and around RP. It does not really concern them to limit owners rights to use their own purchased condos. They have no intention to use their own unit anyhow. They bought them to make money. The sooner LP becomes a Hotel, the better.

You like to lecture folks on their thought process when they bought their condos. Perhaps, those owners that bought into a 5 star HOTEL concept should have realized that RP does not need daily maid service. The HOTEL model will not work in RP. LP does need owners that are willing to subsidize the management company by carrying their units through the 5 dead months. And now you are telling owners that they are limited in how they can use their own condos when they are not rented.

Hopefully, this assault on owners rights becomes the tipping point......

Over 1000 views yesterday alone.

 

[jerry]

I still don't see how renting to friends or family is a problem.Those people spend money and most likely wouldn't have come if they were not friends and family.More people drinking overpriced beer at the pool is good for the company.....

 

[az-dan]

I would guess cheats are a problem at most resorts like ours. I'm sure that the cheats feel justified because they were not getting paid but cheating hurts everyone. If asking, demanding or threatening doesn't work to stop the cheats then the only thing to do is put more restrictions on everyone. If there were no cheats there would be no need for more restrictions. The problem is the cheats and how to stop them. Why don't the owners ban together and establish a system to report cheats. People at the pool and bar always want to talk about the great deal they got and are willing to tell you everything. At the Sea I have turned in units when I hear from someone "my friend got the unit at a discount but we had to pay cash" or "I found it online and rented directly from the owner". Owners who cheat at LP or anywhere else hurts everyone who rents.

 

[Ladyjeeper]

Geez Louise! I'm gone for a couple of days with minor surgery and I see all of this! I'm so glad I'm simple trailer trash! All my friends have keys and they can stay there any time they want! Such a headache with all the coop stuff! PP is suppised to be fun........... What a cooper's headache!

 

[InkaRoads]

Well, hopefully most of those 1000 viewers are owners at Las Palomas and they start doing something about owners getting together to find a resolution that will work for all, instead of having a small group of owners that are trying to do something and get thrown against the wall 'cause those other owners that are not participating in the SC/TC only complain or whine but do not get involve as they should.
Dry Heat might be a jerk or pompouse arss but it seems he is looking for HIS bottom line and not yours, your bottom line is YOUR responsibility.
As for me, no HOA or condo style living, I like making my own rules within MY 4 walls, good luck to all of you that did not took due diligence and find themselves in a mess they did not ask for but did not search enough to avoid!!

 

[playaperro]

Lets go seco...how about all them adds on C list they say they are in the rental pool say for $150 weekends per night who gets what percent of the pie..in a perfect world!

 

[dry heat]

Lets go seco...how about all them adds on C list they say they are in the rental pool say for $150 weekends per night who gets what percent of the pie..in a perfect world!

I would suggest you save your pesos 1st to see if you can afford a condo. Then, contact the resort you are interested in and find out from them how their rental operations works when it comes to management fee's. Any of the resorts in penasco will be able to answer your questions regarding renting a unit and how it works.
Best of luck, at least you won't have to sell as many chiclets and cigars on the beach since prices have decreased over the last few years.

 

[jerry]

Ok what i still don't see is how making the condos less attractive to future buyers helps owners of multiple condos.It seems they lose the most.Maybe going after the repeat renters of sub-par units by posting pictures of how bad they are would do more good than all this Stalinist police stuff.Hey just picture the cast of the Jersey Shore puking all over one of these places makes me not want to rent one.

 

[dry heat]

Ok what i still don't see is how making the condos less attractive to future buyers helps owners of multiple condos.It seems they lose the most.Maybe going after the repeat renters of sub-par units by posting pictures of how bad they are would do more good than all this Stalinist police stuff.Hey just picture the cast of the Jersey Shore puking all over one of these places makes me not want to rent one.

I would look at it more as "stop the bleeding" 1st. the renting of units outside of the rental operator has been a problem at Las Palomas for 4 years (1st the rental operator did not enforce, then they had financial problems). Since the resort is in a state of transition, it appears that certain actions are needed immediately in order to fix a huge problem 1st (Las Palomas get's plenty of complaints from other resorts and other operators for not enforcing their rental regulations- the problem has affected other resorts too). Drastic measure are sometimes needed in the interim in order to clean things up and improve moving forward. Hopefully a lot of these measure will be adjusted once the main problem has been resolved. No rental operator is going to take over the business at Las Palomas with the current situation (many have been interviewed- those in penasco and those that are international operations). I do like the idea of posting sub-par units and having a rating system for quality of individual units (something that a new operator would have to put in place.

 

[playaperro]

I would suggest you save your pesos 1st to see if you can afford a condo. Then, contact the resort you are interested in and find out from them how their rental operations works when it comes to management fee's. Any of the resorts in penasco will be able to answer your questions regarding renting a unit and how it works.
Best of luck, at least you won't have to sell as many chiclets and cigars on the beach since prices have decreased over the last few years.

Good Luck With That!

 

[dry heat]

with pricks like u running the show they will be down to 50k in a matter of no time...

Ahhhh, don't get sensative on us now. You are one of the loudest barkers on here... and my words hurt your feelings (no cursing or threats)?? Funny how I offend others here who use much harsher language (maybe cursing and threats have lost their meaning from being overused so much).
I really do hope you can save up your pesos to buy a condo (if you want a rental property). I am sure you can find a condo under 100k. I say get the whole family involved on the beach (hair braiding on the beach, massage on the beach, selling those neat little grains of rice with your name on them). In no time you will have saved enough for your rental condo. I am glad you have an interest in the rental business. I wish you the best of luck!
Now don't get emotional on me amigo.

 

[playaperro]

Whatever dork Now i know why there is like 200 rentals on c list they want a return on their investment

 

[dry heat]

Whatever dork Now i know why there is like 200 rentals on c list they want a return on their investment

My friend, C list has thousands of rentals. A lot of rental operators will allow owners to self market, plus a lot of rental operators also list their units on C list. I do appreciate your insighful research though.

 

[Terry C]

Global Warming.............

 

[Kenny]

Global Warming.............

You mean climate change don't you Terry?
I tried to find your place, :? but I couldn't find the ugly house where to turn.

 

[Terry C]

WHAT, I have you turn by turn directions Kenny, it's the 25,000 sq ft one remmeber? LOL , I'll draw you a map next time.

 

[Kenny]

WHAT, I have you turn by turn directions Kenny, it's the 25,000 sq ft one remmeber? LOL , I'll draw you a map next time.

OH MAN! I thought you said 250,000 sq ft.