Scorps on the beach

I can remember back in the early 70's summers sleeping on the ground a few hundred feet from my then non-existant condo, behind the dune just one hundred feet north of the then non-existant Ave Sinaloa. Never felt em crawl in but the next morning shook out my sleeping bag to drape over a rope and dry out from the sweat and humidity, as two or three big pissed off yellow-green ones fell out onto the sand.

Ah, la sabor de Mehico!

JJ
 

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I always seem to have a few scorpions in the house stuck to my pest control sticky pads. They are always the small variety maybe up to 1.5 inches at most but usually smaller. When I open the house at night I do a quick sweep with a black light in case one or more were able to make their way around the sticky traps.

As for snakes, yep sidewinder in the dunes by the beach a few times. There were also a bunch of snakes, little guys, in the planters on the road right behind Bella Vita a while back. There were maybe 20 or more with their heads sticking out of holes at night. Reminded me of Garden Eels off Loreto when I was diving there. There are palm trees in the planters with a drip system so I figured they moved in there as they had a water supply as well as mice for food.
 
How did I know that this topic would flush JJ out of silence to present a wealth of interesting info? (These kinds of threads are what drive me to the Forum, and are a window into the teeming life out there in the desert.)
 
JJ, the SW snakes that bit the guy were close to a house in a sandy area to the south of the Cholla road just past the Police station.
The snakes I saw sunning themselves were really close to a sandy wash behind my place, I didn't check the variety.

I bet Rick (Pinto Point) probably has seen some since his place sits above this wash.

As for Mohave rattlers, I sure hope there aren't any in Cholla.
When I was in college during the late 70's, I took a Natural History of AZ class and we went on a night time field trip
to the Rio Verde area northeast of Scottsdale to collect rattlers for ASU's reptile dept.

On the road across from the Pinnacle Peak Steak house we saw a rattle snake crossing the road so we stopped and collected it, (not an easy score),
placed it in a pillow case and into the ice chest it went. It was hissing and spitting so badly we ended up putting it in the trunk of our car.
We collected two other rattlers which were easy compared to the first one.

At the show and tell our teacher displayed everyones snakes and when he was removing from the pillow case our big snake he screamed for
the group to move back because we had a pissed off 40-44" Mohave rattler with 8-9 rattles. (He had it restrained with his snake stick).

He cursed at us for being stupid to collect this snake (like we knew it was a Mohave) and described how both of the toxins work,
he was also was very relieved non of us were bitten.

The Mohave we caught was very aggressive compared to the two Diamondbacks we also caught that night.

Off to ASU's research dept that Mohave went, The 3 of us that caught it were very lucky none of us were bitten that night.

That night is on my list of stupid things I have done during my life.
 
JJ, the SW snakes that bit the guy were close to a house in a sandy area to the south of the Cholla road just past the Police station.
The snakes I saw sunning themselves were really close to a sandy wash behind my place, I didn't check the variety.

I bet Rick (Pinto Point) probably has seen some since his place sits above this wash.

As for Mohave rattlers, I sure hope there aren't any in Cholla.
When I was in college during the late 70's, I took a Natural History of AZ class and we went on a night time field trip
to the Rio Verde area northeast of Scottsdale to collect rattlers for ASU's reptile dept.

On the road across from the Pinnacle Peak Steak house we saw a rattle snake crossing the road so we stopped and collected it, (not an easy score),
placed it in a pillow case and into the ice chest it went. It was hissing and spitting so badly we ended up putting it in the trunk of our car.
We collected two other rattlers which were easy compared to the first one.

At the show and tell our teacher displayed everyones snakes and when he was removing from the pillow case our big snake he screamed for
the group to move back because we had a pissed off 40-44" Mohave rattler with 8-9 rattles. (He had it restrained with his snake stick).

He cursed at us for being stupid to collect this snake (like we knew it was a Mohave) and described how both of the toxins work,
he was also was very relieved non of us were bitten.

The Mohave we caught was very aggressive compared to the two Diamondbacks we also caught that night.

Off to ASU's research dept that Mohave went, The 3 of us that caught it were very lucky none of us were bitten that night.

That night is on my list of stupid things I have done during my life.

No snakes for me in Cholla. I have seen Coyotes, Quail, Osprey, Iguanas, Rabbits, Skunks, Scorpions, Owls, Mice, Rats and what look like Chipmunk's.
 
Rick, I'm surprised, my wife and I hike the wash towards Sandy beach where your garages are and saw a rattler sunning himself on a rock not 30 feet from your garages in March.

I can add to your list, plenty of cockroaches, plenty of scorpions, saw a couple of tarantula migrations over the years, foxes, centipedes and a cricket variety that actually bits or stings you.
 
How big were these? A few years back my housecleaner "saved " me one in a baggie on my counter for my return visit. Biggest scorpion I have ever seen, at least 4 " long. Definitely a different species than we see in the valley. She called it a Sand Scorpion
The big scorps were 2.5- 4 inches long, some were pretty fat. There were no middle size scorps so I wonder if the big ones are eating the little ones.
 
Rick, I'm surprised, my wife and I hike the wash towards Sandy beach where your garages are and saw a rattler sunning himself on a rock not 30 feet from your garages in March.

I can add to your list, plenty of cockroaches, plenty of scorpions, saw a couple of tarantula migrations over the years, foxes, centipedes and a cricket variety that actually bits or stings you.
I guess when I am down there I am always working on the house. I did see two Tarantulas last time I was down. I am getting ready to go down Oct 6th can't wait.
 
Broken...........

Your tale reminds me of one of my own IGNORANT experiences.

Sept 1979 Persian Gulf coastal desert of Iran, much like Bahia San Jorge Sonora.

I spot an abandoned fish camp on the beach, maybe six mud and brush huts filled with all kinds of important fishing junk left unguarded since Muslums would never steal anything from another Mud-Slum. I'm flipping over the crap mostly looking for lizards when I heave over a filthy flea and bedbug infested wood bed frame and behold a beautiful snake in the litter below. It was about four feet long, kinda slender, speckled in dark brown over a cream background with very large piercing eyes. It showed no aggressive activity at all and was rather oddly completely fearless allowing me to just pick it up, look it over and dump it in a pillow case.

Later, after five or six hours of bumping along in my 1942 Willys Jeep across the desert and beach and back at the "hotel" I decide to dump it on the bed and give it a closer inspection. The instant that super pissed off snake hits the sheets it rears it's head up about two feet and spreads it's neck bones and skin into the perfect warning hood of the deadly Egyptian Cobra! Wife screams WTF is that thing and I scream get the hell outta here NOW!

Well that critter is now coiled up in a gallon jar of alcohol on a shelf here in my office in Yuma. Probably still enough venom left in it to kill a half dozen grown men.

JJ
 
JJ, Seems like we all have a WTF did I do, lists.
When we were in South Africa earlier this year, we were visiting the site where the discovery of Lucy was made, "The Cradle of Humankind" and there were warning
signs everywhere with pictures of cute little cobras on them.
Just as we were leaving I saw a long dark skinny snake move quickly across the wide entrance walkway into the tall grass.
I told to my wife and her brother, but it was gone in a flash.

I am sure your snake is pretty still venomous.
I was changing out my toilet float assy. and while cleaning out the tank sand, ended up with a dead scorpions stinger in my finger,
it swelled up, hurt and was numb for 2-3 days. I'm sure it had been in the tank for awhile.
 
I guess when I am down there I am always working on the house. I did see two Tarantulas last time I was down.
I am getting ready to go down Oct 6th can't wait.
We'll be down the 14th, last time we saw tarantulas, there were more than 100 cruising towards your place a few years before you started building.
It was night time and we were riding our ATV's to JJ's, so we didn't stick around, the ladies with us were freaking out, they were everywhere.
Next day, no sign of them anywhere.
 
We'll be down the 14th, last time we saw tarantulas, there were more than 100 cruising towards your place a few years before you started building.
It was night time and we were riding our ATV's to JJ's, so we didn't stick around, the ladies with us were freaking out, they were everywhere.
Next day, no sign of them anywhere.
They do that during mating season. Years ago, we tried our best to dodge them on the road. Stopped on the beach road and let one climb partially up a (booted, jeaned) leg. Beautiful critters . . . .
 

Stuart

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I am sure your snake is pretty still venomous.
Not just snakes and scorps, but fish, too.

One of my favorite fish to cook whole is huachinango (red snappers). I always gill and gut them fresh, but leave the scales and head on, then vacuum pack and freeze a couple of them for a yummy meal at a later time. We stuff the gut cavity and head with a fajita mix of onions and peppers, butter, some spices, then wrap and grill. Everybody picks the fish off the bone to make their own tacos. BUT FIRST, you have to scale the fish. Leaving the head and scales protects the meat and the fish freezes in a much better state than just fillets. Tastes perfectly fresh this way.

I yank one out of the freezer, been in their maybe 4 months. Thaw it in the sink, then take it out back to scale it. I just use a butter knife and rub the scales the wrong way and they pop right off. A rub-rub here, rub-rub there, scales flying off, then OUCH! Pricked my thumb on a top dorsal fin spine, enough to draw blood, but no biggie. Washed it off with the hose, then cooked the fish, thinking nothing more about it.

Next day, my thumb was swollen up like a bratwurst and wicked sore! Stayed that way for about two weeks. Even several months later, I'd get wicked pain in that thumb every time I put pressure anywhere near the area where I got poked. Took a long time to return to normal.

Note to self: Always watch those fins, even on long dead fish!
 
O.K. We are loaded with scorp hunting gear: blacklight headlamp & two large blacklight flashlights, extra long handled needle nose pliers and my new idea for scorpion beach extermination: a sharp machete.
 
129 in two nights this weekend. This includes babies and big ones. None near the houses, they are all out on the sand. Creepy....
 
They like the dunes by the beach. They've always been there, although maybe more prolific this fall than most. Without a UV-light search, most beachgoers are blissfully unaware after sundown. The only time in 20 years I got stung was at sundown, carrying chair and cooler up the dune . . . . tripped and fell onto one. The only time a scorpion was discovered inside was about 20 years ago, for the first year after construction (which is often common in the desert) a couple were found. Then nothing . . . . until a few weeks ago when one of those big ones lumbered across the room. I would call it at least 4 inches . . . probably 5. Gently escorted it out the door with a broom. (Admittedly had been leaving the door open during morning coffee for my older dog, who isn't so fluid with the doggy door lately. Now I have religion!)
 
Used to live on a rocky mountain side in Casa Grande. We had to cut back into the mountain to make the pad for the house.
As Edna goes Antifalastic , SP, I had to go out ever night or so with the black light and a plumbers torch to kill Scorps. It was not uncommon to kill 15 to 25 every time out.
The reason for the torch was they would run down into the rocks but the heat would follow and kill them.
 
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