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Vaquita conservation

Started by Estero · Apr 17, 2015 · 28 replies
Estero
El Presidente was in San Felipe Thursday...http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/apr/16/endangered-vaquita-plan-save-gulf-california/?#article-copy
Landshark
This is some of the best news yet in the effort to stop the destruction of the fish and wildlife in the Sea of Cortez. I just hope they are serious about implementing their "new plan" as well as enforcing it...with serious consequences. They also need to include long line fishing bans and restrictions to the shrimp trawlers in their plans. The article says the governors of Sinaloa, Nayarit and Baja California were present, but not the governor of Sonora?? Not a good indication of local support. The following quote is a long overdue response to the problem but unfortunately may be too late.
The threat to the Vaquita “is a symptom of a broken system,” said Alejandro Robles, chairman of the Mexican environmental group Noroeste Sustentable. “The Upper Gulf has tremendously valuable resources. It has been the historical disorganization of the fishing sector that has created what we have today.”
T
he extent of the damage already done is sad and overwhelming.
http://www.seawatch.org/reports/sea_of_cortez.php
Landshark
Mexico Implements Plan to Save Endangered Vaquita Porpoise
The gill net ban is now officially in effect. Lets hope the enforcement is aggressive.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/mexico-implements-plan-save-endangered-vaquita-porpoise-30377326
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/01/world/americas/mexico-moves-to-save-endangered-porpoise.html?_r=0
I'm also hearing rumors the commercial shrimp trawlers are being paid (subsidized) to not harvest shrimp. Can't find anything to confirm this. Anybody have any details? It appears it only applies to gill nets.
MIRAMAR
I thought the gill net ban was over by San Felipe. Hopefully it doesn't cause more nets by us
Landshark
Yeah, you're right. That could be a big problem.
gillnet-exclusion-zone.jpg
Jungle Jim
Sorry to burst the bubble........

It will never happen, since once they are all gone they won't be a problem any longer.

Hit the beach at Santo Tomas last Saturday afternoon. Made a right turn, went 100 feet and saw a dead sea turtle in the surf. It was an adult Olive Ridley with no obvious injuries. Went another 200 feet saw two dead sea turtles in the surf. They were one adult and one juvenile about two feet long Olive Ridley's with do obvious injuries. We started a tally sheet then stopped counting dead sea turtles at two miles of driving with eleven dead. At our turn around point we estimated at least one dead turtle every quarter mile. We drove about twenty miles up the beach that day, which means at least eighty dead turtles. We did not count the dead Sea Lions or Dolphins, but there were plenty. No animal of that size and lifespan can withstand losses of breeding adults at that level. I believe those turtles had all drowned in gill nets and trawl nets.

JJ
MIRAMAR
We saw 2 dead sea turtles last week on the beach between Dorada and Encanto- so sad
jerry
The gill nets are out of control but I think it is the Sardine trawlers with the panga support
Estero
I thought the trawlers, by law, were to use turtle exclusion devices in the nets. But a few zip ties to close them solves any inspection problems.
jerry
Think you are right but when they come by the dead stuff on the beach is eveywhere.Like Jim reported the dead Sealife count by us is just unreal....maybe a red tide? Maybe they are just starving?
MIRAMAR
In late January I wrote: " I saw last weekend what looked like a red tide, but then it went away with the higher waves. I say red tide because the sea was so blue, but the dark area looked more reddish in color. Also there were more dead birds (mostly small) on shore. "

We've spent the last few months cleaning up the dead birds and sea lions on our beach, and I would guess it's from the algae in January/February/March. The only time I could visibly see it was in late January, but the health dept testing could still spot it through March.
ben21
Had a dead Sea Lion about 100 yards down from us in Las Conchas this weekend
jerry
Three Ridley's in the surf in front of Santo Tomas... Jim might be right
Estero
Alive and swimming?
jerry
Estero said:
Alive and swimming?

Sorry, dead but recent....the biologist from Prescott College kino station just contacted me about Jim's report.
Roberto
http://rockypoint360.com/gill-net-ban-expected-to-impact-local-panga-operators/
jerry
Trying to get a bit more confirmation...the worry is the gill netters are moving down here making a bad situation worse
Landshark
Roberto said:

How does the ban affect RP pangeros? The exclusion zone is on the western half of the upper Sea of Cortez, nowhere near RP. The local pangeros shouldn't be subsidized because they aren't being restricted. Or am I missing something?
jerry
They go north sometimes...we ran into pangeros from Guaymas all the way over on Angel Island
Landshark
jerry said:
They go north sometimes...we ran into pangeros from Guaymas all the way over on Angel Island

Yeah, I figured something like that but at least they can fish as long as they stay closer to home.
Landshark
CEDO launches comprehensive coastal fishing program
Probably a great plan but how do you get the fishermen to go along with it?
http://rockypoint360.com/cedo-launches-comprehensive-coastal-fishing-program/
Roberto
Landshark said:
How does the ban affect RP pangeros? The exclusion zone is on the western half of the upper Sea of Cortez, nowhere near RP. The local pangeros shouldn't be subsidized because they aren't being restricted. Or am I missing something?


Gill net ban expected to impact local panga operators
By Azucena Mazon on April 17, 2015@rockypoint360
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At least 350 panga operators and some 1,000 families in Puerto Peñasco will be affected by the temporary ban on gill nets for smaller boats, known as “pangas”, in the northern part of the Gulf of California in an effort to protect the endangered vaquita marina and other species.

On April 10th, the Official Journal of the Federation published notice of the two year ban for the Upper Gulf of California, which encompasses fleets of smaller vessels in Puerto Peñasco, the Golfo de Santa Clara and San Felipe. Within the area of Puerto Peñasco alone there are 350 permit holders that will be directly impacted by this ban, and at least 1000 additional families that are part of the productive process.

The temporary ban launched by the Secretary of the Environment and Natural Resources (SEMARNAT) regarding commercial fishing through the use of gill nets was planned as a measure to protect the endangered vaquita marina, a species endemic to the area of which studies show there to exist approximately 100 in the Upper Gulf.

Hermenegildo Ramírez López, Director of the Fishing Office in Puerto Peñasco, indicated one of the factors that will most heavily impact panga operators in Puerto Peñasco in particular is the fact they were not included within a compensation program of up to 1 million pesos being applied to permit holders affected by the fishing ban. In addition, he expressed, there is a serious problem of uncontrolled clandestine fishing, which in Puerto Peñasco points to at least more than 500 pangas operating outside of the law.
El Tiburon
Does this mean we should expect another blockade of the exit roads out of the city any time soon?
Landshark
El Tiburon said:
Does this mean we should expect another blockade of the exit roads out of the city any time soon?

Hope so! Wouldn't be able to go home. Another day or two in paradise!
MIRAMAR
Local fisherman are requesting the area be expanded
http://rockypoint360.com/penasco-pangueros-propose-extending-reserve-in-upper-gulf/
Landshark
MIRAMAR said:

All about wanting the subsidy.
Kenny
Landshark said:
All about wanting the subsidy.

Of course it is but I'd rather see money go in that direction than on a pile of rock's that will be detrimental to the ecosystem.
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jerry
Heard the local fishermen might do some iffy stuff to get the government cheese like the El Golfo guys....
MIRAMAR
There was a sighting of Vaquita by San Felipe on April 18th: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://defrente.com.mx/2015/05/confirman-avistamiento-de-vaquita-marina/&edit-text=&act=url