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Drug sniffing dog

Started by fatboyharley · Oct 31, 2014 · 44 replies
fatboyharley
So crossing the border this morning in to Mexican I received a red light. Had my dogs paperwork all ready and handed them their copies. They then took a dog around my car to sniff for drugs. When did that start ?
Roberto
I think they are sniffing for dog food :eek::eek::eek:
HILL BOY
That is funny
tequilatodd
Roberto said:
I think they are sniffing for dog food :eek::eek::eek:

Could be
asprinkles
and I want to know what are the dogs at the other 2 checkpoints in az.
smelling for ?
asprinkles
I think the checkpoint in calif, coming into az should turn the fans around. There blowing away from the cars back into calif. To funny. Or maybe not . Lol
asprinkles
they were looking for early turkeys
Terry C
I've noticed many times there is a cage on the left with a German Shepard in it right after the alto sign and before the light sign. Never could figure that one out....
Crowbar1
Surely they are sniffing for drugs. But, i have heard that dogs false alert a large percentage of the time. If they alert on your car, i would try and have the officer do it again before they tear your car apart looking for something that isn't there.
Dawg
I would guess guns / ammo. I would think there wouldn't be a lot of drug importing into Mexico.
Landshark
Looking for drugs, money, guns, ammo, produce, meat, dog food, stolen cars, fugitives on the run....highly trained dogs! Or maybe they are just dumb mutts placed there as a deterrent. Or maybe the border guys just bring their mutts to work.
azdiva
In San Luis entering Mexico, the customs agents have this small black box with an antenna sticking out of it. They point it at cars
just to notice people fidgeting around to hide something which gives them away. Pretty Clever.
Kenny
azdiva said:
In San Luis entering Mexico, the customs agents have this small black box with an antenna sticking out of it. They point it at cars
just to notice people fidgeting around to hide something which gives them away. Pretty Clever.

Well if someone waits until their at the border crossing and within sight of the border guards to hide something, they deserve to get caught.
mondone
There was a news story recently that marijuana quality in the states is so much better lately that it is in demand in Mexico and that the major flow of it has switched from coming into the USA to more going south of the border. There has been an armed Mexican soldier stationed at the fiscal light the last 2 times we crossed also, which I never have seen before.
Roberto
mondone said:
There was a news story recently that marijuana quality in the states is so much better lately that it is in demand in Mexico and that the major flow of it has switched from coming into the USA to more going south of the border. There has been an armed Mexican soldier stationed at the fiscal light the last 2 times we crossed also, which I never have seen before.


I read that this story has been pretty much debunked as prattle of some goofball enforcement person in the US. I cannot imagine locals wanting to pay more for weed when it has always been plentiful and cheap. Many grow their own. No one really cares.
mondone
Seems strange to me also but AZ talking about legalizing which should make a major hit in smuggling anyway.
Roberto
While it is still profitable to grow had move pot, unfortunatley there has been a marked shift to other , less bulky, more profitable drugs. Heroin, Cocaine and Meth. to name a few. Poppys have been found growing in new areas of Mexico. I have read there has been an increase in some places in the use of heroin, boosted by addictions to the the much more expensive Oxy.
mondone
It's all supply and demand, heroin has made a major comeback for abuse.
Roberto
http://news.yahoo.com/report-meth-seizures-us-mexico-border-soar-2014-224224211.html
Jungle Jim
Factoid...........

The HIGH quality AMERICAN grown mota that flows from USA to MEX is only purchased by Gringos in MEX that would never buy MEX grown cheap KRAP that in USA is only used by kids and getto rats.

JJ
tequilatodd
Jungle Jim said:
Factoid...........

The HIGH quality AMERICAN grown mota that flows from USA to MEX is only purchased by Gringos in MEX that would never buy MEX grown cheap KRAP that in USA is only used by kids and getto rats.

JJ

LMAO at getto rats.
Back in High School (30years ago WOW) that's all you could usually find. But know what you're sayin JJ
***sorry for the OT reply***
Jungle Jim
50 YEARS AGO!...................

Acapulco Gold.............Ahhh, that was as good as it gets in those days.

Whilst in High School in Newport Beach, Peoples Republic of Kalifornica, I worked for a guy that built racing sailboats. We would always have a "special" boat being built for the Newport to Acapulco race. We were ordered to leave the access hatch into the hull unsealed. Upon leaving N-Port enroute to Acapulco the hull was filled with styrofoam blocks for floatation. Upon return to N-Port the access hatch was sealed with fiberglass and resin. The boat was returned to the factory in Costa Mesa and the hatch was cut opened. The hull now contained several hundred kilo packages of.............Acapulco Gold. And everybody thought the guy made his millions building boats!

JJ
Kenny
Wahacan stood up very well to the Gold and Panama Red kicked both their butt's.
Last edited: Jan 9, 2015 at 2:34 AM
JWT
PPRES

Hey folks reading this forum hoping to learn something about Rocky Point. All the posters here on this topic are well meaning people, but they are only occasional tourists and cannot give you any meaningful info if you plan to live here.
Kenny
JWT said:
PPRES

Hey folks reading this forum hoping to learn something about Rocky Point. All the posters here on this topic are well meaning people, but they are only occasional tourists and cannot give you any meaningful info if you plan to live here.

Hey Joe!!! Now this one has the flavor, but no substance.
marybna
I am reading Sixty Miles of Border and I can now understand why it is so hard for hard working non drug people in Mexico to make a living. They are dealing with this stuff everyday and everywhere.
JimMcG
Check out the reviews and comments also.

http://www.amazon.com/Sixty-Miles-Border-American-Battles/dp/0425247627#reader_0425247627
Roberto
The Border Patrol has been getting some bad reviews lately. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/border-patrol-the-green-monster-112220_full.html#.VJspiMAAB
The related story of the overall impact of the trade on the average Mexican across Mexico has not been told as far as I know, but it is more interesting to me than border law enforcement travails. It's a story that prolly cannot be told, extremely complex, but I know of some specifics effects that are heardbreaking. Many benefit in some way from the trade and many suffer. I for one believe if the trade disappeared 'Poof' tomorrow the entire economy of Mexico would falter badly. Certainly many would be unemployed.
Last edited: Jan 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM
InkaRoads
JWT said:
PPRES

Hey folks reading this forum hoping to learn something about Rocky Point. All the posters here on this topic are well meaning people, but they are only occasional tourists and cannot give you any meaningful info if you plan to live here.


however they seem to be well versed in border crossing which is a topic that a PPRES might not be as up to date as you do not cross the border that often since you live in PP full time!!!
Landshark
Roberto said:
While it is still profitable to grow had move pot, unfortunatley there has been a marked shift to other , less bulky, more profitable drugs. Heroin, Cocaine and Meth. to name a few. Poppys have been found growing in new areas of Mexico. I have read there has been an increase in some places in the use of heroin, boosted by addictions to the the much more expensive Oxy.

Mexican opium farmers expand plots to supply US heroin boom
Scary stuff. This is spiraling out of control faster than anybody wants to acknowledge.
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/02/mexican-opium-farmers-expand-plots-to-supply-us-heroin-boom/21138250/
HILL BOY
Sad Sad Sad!!


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Smilin' Jack
fatboyharley said:
So crossing the border this morning in to Mexican I received a red light. Had my dogs paperwork all ready and handed them their copies. They then took a dog around my car to sniff for drugs. When did that start ?


Monkey see, monkey do. Just copying what is done on the US side. Sensors first on the US side, now sensors before you get to the Red or Green light entering Mexico. Some dogs are trained out to smell the ink on large quantities of US currency.
Smilin' Jack
mondone said:
Seems strange to me also but AZ talking about legalizing which should make a major hit in smuggling anyway.


Legalizing pot in AZ will have no impact on smuggling. Only a negligible amount of pot smuggled into AZ is consumed in AZ. AZ is a major smuggling corridor for distribution to other parts of the US, not the final consumption point.
Smilin' Jack
asprinkles said:
and I want to know what are the dogs at the other 2 checkpoints in az.
smelling for ?


If you are referring to Border Patrol highway checkpoints - DRUGS! These highway checkpoints are "immigration" check points. As a US citizen, you don't have to answer any of their questions as to where you are coming from, or where you are going. US citizens are free to travel in their country without having to answer to the Border Patrol. They have NO authority to detain you for secondary inspection to search your vehicle unless they have adequate evidence that you are violating federal immigration laws, or are concealing illegal drugs. You can always say NO! If you are not violating any federal law, and you voluntarily submit, you are giving up your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! Just like paying mordita on the south side of the border, doing so makes it harder for the rest of US trying to preserve our Constitutional rights.
Smilin' Jack
Roberto said:
While it is still profitable to grow had move pot, unfortunatley there has been a marked shift to other , less bulky, more profitable drugs. Heroin, Cocaine and Meth. to name a few. Poppys have been found growing in new areas of Mexico. I have read there has been an increase in some places in the use of heroin, boosted by addictions to the the much more expensive Oxy.


Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are nothing more than low grade heroin. They are highly addictive pain killers for short term use. However, many get addicted by over prescribing. Heroin is much less expensive than these prescription opioids in the illegal market, thus the increase in popularity. Poppy fields are very colorful, and easily spotted by aircraft, or satellite. My brother in law was a commercial pilot, and for many years he has been watching poppy fields growing in the Mazatlan area of Mexico. Opium scraped from the poppy seed pod contains up to 10% morphine. Acetylating morphine results in heroin (diacetyl morphine).
jerry
heroin use is a choice born of boredom,fear,a history of serial abuse loneliness ... Most (95%) of users returning from Vietnam never used again....the answer isn't more prisoners,cops and people burdened with life altering police records...
JWT
PPRES

Posts by Smilin' Jack on this topic seem to be a breath of intelligible, sober, intelligent and factual air on this forum. And, he seems to have no entourage of likkers to puff him up. We look forward to hearing more from him.
jerry
Smilin' Jack said:
If you are referring to Border Patrol highway checkpoints - DRUGS! These highway checkpoints are "immigration" check points. As a US citizen, you don't have to answer any of their questions as to where you are coming from, or where you are going. US citizens are free to travel in their country without having to answer to the Border Patrol. They have NO authority to detain you for secondary inspection to search your vehicle unless they have adequate evidence that you are violating federal immigration laws, or are concealing illegal drugs. You can always say NO! If you are not violating any federal law, and you voluntarily submit, you are giving up your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! Just like paying mordita on the south side of the border, doing so makes it harder for the rest of US trying to preserve our Constitutional rights.

Big talk...but have learned a few hard lessons of the cost of taking this route in rural AZ..yes officer.,no officer....and go on your way
Kenny
jerry said:
Big talk...but have learned a few hard lessons of the cost of taking this route in rural AZ..yes officer.,no officer....and go on your way

Oh you know with Smilin Jack or Cactus Jack you're going to get the same O same O bravado. Very much unlike our friend moore_rb who holds the record for being cuffed at the border while saying you don't have the authority to do that to me for the 6th time or is it the 9th now?
Last edited: Feb 11, 2015 at 3:54 AM
mis2810
With all the stuff in the news recently about using US Citizens as mules crossing with drugs, and some of the stories that you hear about where someone has taped packages of drugs to the underside of cars crossing north (without the car owners' knowledge), is there anyway to check for that before crossing? I realize you can just look at the undercarriage of your vehicle, but what if someone has hidden something so high up in there that you can't see it just with a flashlight from under the car. How would you protect yourself from that?
jerry
mis2810 said:
With all the stuff in the news recently about using US Citizens as mules crossing with drugs, and some of the stories that you hear about where someone has taped packages of drugs to the underside of cars crossing north (without the car owners' knowledge), is there anyway to check for that before crossing? I realize you can just look at the undercarriage of your vehicle, but what if someone has hidden something so high up in there that you can't see it just with a flashlight from under the car. How would you protect yourself from that?

Pretty rare......I would worry way more about about someone flipping a shell casing in the back of the pickup at a gas station and having a cop " discover" it a few miles down the road.....and that is rare too
Landshark
jerry said:
heroin use is a choice born of boredom,fear,a history of serial abuse loneliness ... Most (95%) of users returning from Vietnam never used again....the answer isn't more prisoners,cops and people burdened with life altering police records...

Family uses man's obituary as warning about dangers of heroin addiction
“It’s an epidemic. It’s worse than the plague, and it’s wiping out an entire generation”

http://www.wlwt.com/news/family-uses-mans-obituary-as-warning-about-dangers-of-heroin-addiction/31055660
jerry
Landshark said:
Family uses man's obituary as warning about dangers of heroin addiction
“It’s an epidemic. It’s worse than the plague, and it’s wiping out an entire generation”

http://www.wlwt.com/news/family-uses-mans-obituary-as-warning-about-dangers-of-heroin-addiction/31055660

sad but how do you deal with it? give felonies and no futures to the vast majority of users that get bored heroin...etc. and get on with life.If od kits were readily available he most likely would be alive. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstopoverdose.org%2Ffaq.htm&ei=7eDbVIKSHMWmyAS02YCwCA&usg=AFQjCNG3X-LQKNXHcIcKY66w9VGMEmiPFQ&sig2=NnV6kG6V1Z8BrvU7VEaCxQ&bvm=bv.85761416,d.aWw
Landshark
jerry said:
sad but how do you deal with it?

Wish I had the answer. Been trying to help a family member for 2 1/2 yrs without any real results. Just when I think we might beat it, another major relapse. Percoset is the problem. The doctors & dentists hand out scripts for it like candy on halloween. The crap is available everywhere on the street. Then somebody gets their hands on blank scripts, fills them out, and off to the pharmacy they go. At $20 -$25 a piece, lots of money to be made. Docs need to stop prescribing the stuff, and pharmacies need to confirm scripts. Would have to help. What people don't realize is percoset is heroin in a mild form. Very addicting and when you can't afford it any longer, heroin is readily available and much cheaper. Then you're really in trouble because there really isn't any place to go for help. Maybe some state or federal run clinics or programs. Don't know, again, wish I had the answer. Feel like we're running out of time...
HILL BOY
jerry said:
Pretty rare......I would worry way more about about someone flipping a shell casing in the back of the pickup at a gas station and having a cop " discover" it a few miles down the road.....and that is rare too

Now that is a scary thought


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