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I hate to see this as a top story in Phoenix. Anyone know where this happened?

Started by dwig222 · May 27, 2013 · 29 replies
dwig222
Yanira Maldonado: Valley mom of 7 being held in Mexican jail
dwig222
Where did she board the bus?
Ladyjeeper
I think Hermosillo. She;s being held in a Nogales jail. Makes me sooo mad!
Mexico Joe
Typical
dwig222
It's the top story on CNN online.
Hooch
Let them keep knocking mexico it keeps the place quiet and makes for no lines crossing the border.
mexicoruss
I think they should at the guy sitting behind her on the bus, who puts stuff under their own seat?
Stuart
Mormon grandmothers are the new Al Capones of drug smuggling. Don't kid yourselves!!!

(yes, I'm absolutely joking.) :puff:
playaperro
Never offer or pay a bribe anywhere!
Estella
I posted the link to the story when was only reported by channel 5 two days ago in another thread. I went trough the same military inspection station that is north of Hermosillo many times. It is permanent structure that looks like you are crossing the border. I recorded it with my camera, the private cars get to see the solder in the boot who asks you "que se dedica, de donde viene, a donde va" look right in the eye of the soldier and respond quickly and you will get a wave trough. The buses and big commercial trucks get full inspection. The bus is stopped and all luggage is inspected. At the time I witnessed this and said, Mexican government always use CUBA as the worst example but I don't see much difference in liberty of travel.
Southbeacher
Ho hum . . . another frenzy taking hold as a result of this publicity. In case anyone wants to join the rumor-cleanup team, please visit Take precautions to ensure safe travel in Mexico - Phoenix News - KTAR.com to stifle the Rocky-Point-is-Dangerous madness.
garyd
She has been released
Stuart
garyd said:
She has been released


'Bout time. Honestly, stuff like this is what scares people about going to Mexico. More than cartel violence or anything else.
wildtoucan
In her release interview she did say she would still go back to visit famiky in mexico.
Pinky
The real story that everyone seems to ignore is that this woman was sitting on a large amount of dope, was arrested and used the "it's not mine defense". She was subsequently cleared of the charges in about a week and freed from jail. Let's see that happen anywhere in the U.S. where a typical "it's not mine" defense would cost the person (or the taxpayers) several hundred thousand dollars and few years of their time. I fully believe her side of the story, but let's face the reality that this would never have happened this way in the United States where she would still be rotting away in jail awaiting trial.
Rhino
Pinky said:
The real story that everyone seems to ignore is that this woman was sitting on a large amount of dope, was arrested and used the "it's not mine defense". She was subsequently cleared of the charges in about a week and freed from jail. Let's see that happen anywhere in the U.S. where a typical "it's not mine" defense would cost the person (or the taxpayers) several hundred thousand dollars and few years of their time. I fully believe her side of the story, but let's face the reality that this would never have happened this way in the United States where she would still be rotting away in jail awaiting trial.


I could not agree more with this analysis of the situation and what the result might have been given similar circumstances in the States. Now for the very sensitive comment which I will preface by saying I believe she was innocent of the charges (the part about the overt bribe request, I'm not so sure about) but if you view her videos, I could see the Mexican or American cops for that matter, wondering if she might be under-the-influence at the time; her rolling eyes, unstable head position and "strange" speech patterns. I'm sure those are just epidemic of her, but I'm just saying. In the States, at a DUI check-point or any other traffic stop, my guess is that the cops might take a more in-depth look based on their immediate assessment.
dry heat
the positive spin is it turned out to be free advertisement for the mormon faith. I could not believe how much the word mormon was thrown out from the mormon faith kept me going to I found a mormon bible in jail to my mormon senators helped me get out to well known mormon arizona media help spread the word (including some well known mormon anchors). they do go to bat for each other. hope that a non mormon would receive the same attention from their Arizona representatives and/or media.
playaperro
dry heat said:
the positive spin is it turned out to be free advertisement for the mormon faith. I could not believe how much the word mormon was thrown out from the mormon faith kept me going to I found a mormon bible in jail to my mormon senators helped me get out to well known mormon arizona media help spread the word (including some well known mormon anchors). they do go to bat for each other. hope that a non mormon would receive the same attention from their Arizona representatives and/or media.


True, you must hang out with Reyel on Sundays!
playaperro
Rhino said:
I could not agree more with this analysis of the situation and what the result might have been given similar circumstances in the States. Now for the very sensitive comment which I will preface by saying I believe she was innocent of the charges (the part about the overt bribe request, I'm not so sure about) but if you view her videos, I could see the Mexican or American cops for that matter, wondering if she might be under-the-influence at the time; her rolling eyes, unstable head position and "strange" speech patterns. I'm sure those are just epidemic of her, but I'm just saying. In the States, at a DUI check-point or any other traffic stop, my guess is that the cops might take a more in-depth look based on their immediate assessment.


Was the pot taped to the bottom of the seat?
incognito2112
It’s unfortunate and unnecessary. Either the contraband was planted & an innocent American was locked up (shame on Mexico), or the woman was actually carrying the contraband and she was released without proving her guilt (shame on Mexico).

As someone who visits Rocky Point 6 to 7 times a year, this story resonates with me for some reason. First I am insulted why her faith came into play to portray her innocence (as if Mormons never commit crimes or should not be treated in the same way, come on!)

But the underlying issue is that if the Mormon card wasn't played & pressure wasn't applied in the media, this woman would still be rotting away in some God forsaken cell in Mexico. After looking at the facts of this story, it seems like it was a set-up for profit by the officers and an innocent woman got thrown in jail. As an American, this gives me pause and confirms how people can just disappear for being in the wrong place at the wrong time south of the border.

Anger should be directed at whomever threw this woman in jail because it’s going to make everyone think twice before visiting Mexico - Not only for safety, but to support a corrupt system that let something like this happen. The stupidity of locking her up for a week, letting the PR machine churn and then releasing her in the middle of the night does not reflect well at all.

It's really a shame as confidence & tourism was picking up for places like Rocky Point - this just kicked it back into the Stone Age.
jerry
incognito2112 said:
It’s unfortunate and unnecessary. Either the contraband was planted & an innocent American was locked up (shame on Mexico), or the woman was actually carrying the contraband and she was released without proving her guilt (shame on Mexico).

As someone who visits Rocky Point 6 to 7 times a year, this story resonates with me for some reason. First I am insulted why her faith came into play to portray her innocence (as if Mormons never commit crimes or should not be treated in the same way, come on!)

But the underlying issue is that if the Mormon card wasn't played & pressure wasn't applied in the media, this woman would still be rotting away in some God forsaken cell in Mexico. After looking at the facts of this story, it seems like it was a set-up for profit by the officers and an innocent woman got thrown in jail. As an American, this gives me pause and confirms how people can just disappear for being in the wrong place at the wrong time south of the border.

Anger should be directed at whomever threw this woman in jail because it’s going to make everyone think twice before visiting Mexico - Not only for safety, but to support a corrupt system that let something like this happen. The stupidity of locking her up for a week, letting the PR machine churn and then releasing her in the middle of the night does not reflect well at all.

It's really a shame as confidence & tourism was picking up for places like Rocky Point - this just kicked it back into the Stone Age.
. Many good Mormon friends but the church does have pull and watches out for their own.
Senator Flake is LDS...it sure did not hurt as he was known in the lower house for being unhelpful to "Gentiles" in his district. The good thing is the 5k bribe "fell through" ...just makes it tougher on the rest of us.
playaperro
They sell cheese in about every city in Mexico, I've seen them in Cancun, maybe a working vacation...Project MUSE - Mennonites and Mormons in Northern Chihuahua, Mexico
Roberto
incognito2112 said:
It’s unfortunate and unnecessary. Either the contraband was planted & an innocent American was locked up (shame on Mexico), or the woman was actually carrying the contraband and she was released without proving her guilt (shame on Mexico).

I sure do not follow the logic, Shame on Mexico, or was that some sarcasm that went over my head? Seems like it was handled pretty well given the circumstances. Certainly will start people inspecting the area around their seat on busses, here and in the US too.


Anger should be directed at whomever threw this woman in jail because it’s going to make everyone think twice before visiting Mexico - Not only for safety, but to support a corrupt system that let something like this happen. The stupidity of locking her up for a week, letting the PR machine churn and then releasing her in the middle of the night does not reflect well at all.

Don't get it. Facts seem to be she was sitting over a load of drugs, drugs were found, she was investigated and released, all in a fairly timely manner. Bad situation but seems to have come out OK. Worst part might have been the US media that loves agood Mexican Drug story.

It's really a shame as confidence & tourism was picking up for places like Rocky Point - this just kicked it back into the Stone Age.




mmmmmmmmmm
cheatka
I always wonder if they put drugs under people's cars to take across the border for them
JimMcG
Mexican drug smugglers target unsuspecting drivers - San Diego, California News Station - KFMB Channel 8 - cbs8.com
garyd
A little bit different but same type of thing. A Mexican friend of mine dropped her kids off at school today(in Cabo) and as she was pulling away another kid ran in front of her car and was hit by her. Not bad but enough to where they took the little girl to get xrays and arrested my friend and put her in jail awaiting the outcome of the hospital report. Last I heard at 4:00 PM she was still in jail. Again she is Mexican not American.
cheatka
Guess I wasn't worried about it for nothing. That sucks!


JimMcG said:
Roberto
Good idea as a general rule to not allow anyone unsupervised access to your vehicle, especially if you are know as a frequent crosser. Plus a brief inspection, inside and out is appropriate. Like a lot of other stuff ya gotta be proactive. I solve the issue by NOT crossing !!
Estella
Same in this story, Mexican beauty queen rode with some mafia guys, they got all blasted by the military, and military claims even she was armed and had rifle in hands. Case closed. Mexico beauty queen had gun in her hands, was used as a human shield
AZ Miguel
mexicoruss said:
I think they should at the guy sitting behind her on the bus, who puts stuff under their own seat?


Right you are:

The bus passed through at least two checkpoints on the way to the border without incident. In the town of Querobabi in the border state of Sonora, all the passengers were ordered off the bus and a soldier searched the interior as they waited. The soldier exited and told his superiors that packets of drugs had been found under seat 39, Yanira Maldonado’s, and another seat, number 42. Her husband was in seat 40.
Gary Maldonado said a man sitting behind them on the bus fled during the inspection. He said the man might have been the true owner of the drugs.

Ariz. woman freed from Mexican jail - The Frederick News-Post : Nation And World