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Painting, Painters, Paint

Started by mis2810 · Feb 27, 2013 · 33 replies
mis2810
Is it less expensive to buy interior paint down there or better to buy it up here? Not sure how much, probably three 5 gallon containers. Do they do color matching at Comex? Any recommendations for a painter?

Thanks.
Terry C
The painters we have had over the years have had us bring it down. It's just not as good as Dunn Edwards or Behr even on interior. There is a Pittsburgh Paints store and a Sherwin-Williams store in RP too. Not sure about cost.
lagrimas85
Terry C said:
The painters we have had over the years have had us bring it down. It's just not as good as Dunn Edwards or Behr even on interior. There is a Pittsburgh Paints store and a Sherwin-Williams store in RP too. Not sure about cost.


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New Items will be confiscated and not returned. Not that i havn't taken paint across, but it wont cross legally, i'm not saying you will have a problem, but they can take it from you.
mis2810
Don't want to worry about it. I'll buy it down there. Any recommendations for a painter? 2 bedroom condo.
lagrimas85
Those items listed like matches and the little stuff, pertain to cargo shipments, but I know from experience paint is banned. I dont think they match paint but the Bodega has it cheap, Sherwin Williams for good paint runs around 1200 to 1400 pesos for a 5 gal. pail. Ace, Comex, La Ley (cheap paint) Expo Tile also sell paint.
Terry C
True, they can take it from you. If you want a paint that will last a couple of years more is all i'm saying.
lagrimas85
If you want to take paint and like Dunn Edwards, there is a store in south Phoenix on Central ave. that can mix colors, or may even have something you like, it is all overruns, miss matched colors, but they do have the bases to mix also, it is all 35 dllrs. per 5 gal. pail......thats cheap for Dunn Edwards.
Rhino
mis2810 said:
Don't want to worry about it. I'll buy it down there. Any recommendations for a painter? 2 bedroom condo.


Poncho Blanco is the best painter I have found. He speaks good English, is honest, neat & clean and does the work on time. His cell number is 638 107 2406. I have always had him supply the paint. He does all kinds of faux as well as standard finishes.
Terrigreen
WE just painted the whole inside of our house and bought the paint at Sherwin Williams down by Santander. It look fabulous!
AZ Miguel
lagrimas85 said:
If you want to take paint and like Dunn Edwards, there is a store in south Phoenix on Central ave. that can mix colors, or may even have something you like, it is all overruns, miss matched colors, but they do have the bases to mix also, it is all 35 dllrs. per 5 gal. pail......thats cheap for Dunn Edwards.


Where on Central and their name? I'm in the 51st ave area and go through a lot of paint.
mis2810
I think I may have passed that place, if it's where I think, it's on the east side of central, just north of Southern, right? I'll drive by this morning on my way to work.
lagrimas85
mis2810 said:
I think I may have passed that place, if it's where I think, it's on the east side of central, just north of Southern, right? I'll drive by this morning on my way to work.


Thats it Melissa
BIG MAC
Pick your colors at Sherwin Williams in AZ take the code to Sherwin Williams PP and they can match it. Just painted a 3 Bedroom and it looks great. The interior paint is just a little cheaper in PP. My painter told me that interior paint in Mexico is just as good as in the States but if you are painting the exterior you should buy your paint in the US.

I highly recommend Luis "Pablo" Bustamante (638-113-4594 in PP) or e-mail [email protected]. His work was very professional and he is fluent in english for those of us with limited spanish vocabularies.
Landshark
We buy our paint at Dunn Edwards in Phoenix. It is a high-quality product that will provide long lasting results. It also has very good coverage which means less coats/less paint used/less labor/less $$$. We have brought it across the border many times and have never had a problem. Occasionally, we have had too much stuff and pulled over to claim it, including the paint. They look at the receipts for our stuff, including the ones from Dunn Edwards, and there is not a problem. I believe a paint job is only as good as the prep and the quality of paint used.
playaperro
Hire me, I been painting all my life, If you pay me by the job I use a roller, pay me by the hour and I use a brush, for best results use a contractor that preps, primers, and does a spray semi-gloss finish, all paint shops are dying for jobs and will give you a great price at this time.
mis2810
playaperro said:
Hire me, I been painting all my life, If you pay me by the job I use a roller, pay me by the hour and I use a brush, for best results use a contractor that preps, primers, and does a spray semi-gloss finish, all paint shops are dying for jobs and will give you a great price at this time.


I'm liking the idea of the sprayer - uses more paint, but so much faster! I'm going to get a few quotes.
Terry C
My painter used a sealer after pressure washing and before painting. He said it will help keep the moisture in the block and prevent the paint from blistering and pealing. I had a lot of that going on at the ground level and different places. We shall see.
Landshark
mis2810 said:
I'm liking the idea of the sprayer - uses more paint, but so much faster! I'm going to get a few quotes.


Spraying is good in some cases, however it does have it's drawbacks. Paint overspray is a major concern for me and most of the time the painters don't want to take the time to correctly cover everything to protect it. In a lot of cases, the overspray is impossible to remove when it gets on things like wood cabinets, brick or masonry products, non-glazed/porous tile & grout, etc. Some painters believe in back-rolling the paint with a roller after spraying anyway. Brushing & rolling with no drips, splatters, overspray or messes is hard to beat.
playaperro
Landshark said:
Spraying is good in some cases, however it does have it's drawbacks. Paint overspray is a major concern for me and most of the time the painters don't want to take the time to correctly cover everything to protect it. In a lot of cases, the overspray is impossible to remove when it gets on things like wood cabinets, brick or masonry products, non-glazed/porous tile & grout, etc. Some painters believe in back-rolling the paint with a roller after spraying anyway. Brushing & rolling with no drips, splatters, overspray or messes is hard to beat.

I was waiting for this!
image So Krylon's out, too, then... right?
mondone
Landshark said:
We buy our paint at Dunn Edwards in Phoenix. It is a high-quality product that will provide long lasting results. It also has very good coverage which means less coats/less paint used/less labor/less $$$. We have brought it across the border many times and have never had a problem. Occasionally, we have had too much stuff and pulled over to claim it, including the paint. They look at the receipts for our stuff, including the ones from Dunn Edwards, and there is not a problem. I believe a paint job is only as good as the prep and the quality of paint used.


Totally agree. Just used Dunn-Edwards on exterior of my Encanto casa and it looks great. BTW, they looked right at my 5 gallon pails and didn't say a word. I brought one or two down with me each trip. I've used Behr, Olympic and Valspar for interior paint, but I'm sure SW or Pittsburgh stuff in RP would be sufficient on the inside.
fatboyharley
I used a professional exterior elastomer paint gotten in phx from the Sherwin Williams professional store Needed 90 gallons for the exterior of my house. Tinted and in 5 gallon containers. Got a professional discount also. It was the paint the pro store recommended for use at the beach.
mondone
fatboyharley said:
I used a professional exterior elastomer paint gotten in phx from the Sherwin Williams professional store Needed 90 gallons for the exterior of my house. Tinted and in 5 gallon containers. Got a professional discount also. It was the paint the pro store recommended for use at the beach.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news bit elastomeric paint should never, ever be used on a stucco or block home. It needs to breathe and elastomeric is going to retain moisture within and deteriorate from inside out.
fatboyharley
As I said that is what they recommended. Now they did say never to use this type of paint in the interior I guess we shall see. It has been on for 18 month now
mondone
Beach, desert, whatever, it should never be used on a stucco/block home. If you apply a non-breathable coating over the top of stucco, moisture won't be able to evaporate. Elastomeric paint can be used to fill in stucco cracks that are 1/16 of an inch or so, but the better choice is elastomeric caulk to remedy the cracks, especially for cracks wider than 1/16 of an inch. The caulk has great elasticity, so it will move with cracks if they widen, and it will help prevent water from seeping through the cracks. Painting an entire wall with elastomeric paint, on the other hand, could make your problem worse. Elastomeric paint is so watertight that it prevents the walls from "breathing." So if water does manage to find its way into or behind your walls, it will get trapped there. That can cause problems like bubbling paint and mold growth. Ask any top painting contractor in Phoenix or Tucson and they will tell you that. I've dealt with both good and bad salesman in paint stores. Some know their stuff, the others were probably selling used cars the week before.
Landshark
playaperro said:
I was waiting for this! image So Krylon's out, too, then... right?


I only use Krylon on my pickup Dog! Not the house!??? Painted the tailgate yesterday...looks great!
S10 Tailgate March 1 2013.jpg
playaperro
Should of rolled it on, No Runs, No drips!
JimMcG
http://www.homedepot.com/hdus/en_US/DTCCOM/HomePage/Know_How/Brand_Pages/Paint/Behr/Docs/SpecialtyPaints.pdf
Landshark
playaperro said:
Should of rolled it on, No Runs, No drips!


Yup Then I wouldn't have oversprayed the rest of the truck! Now I gotta clean it off!
mondone
JimMcG said:


Do not use this junk on your house. You will cause issues in the future and will be sorry down the road. Use a quality 100% acrylic exterior paint. Elastomeric paints have different moisture sealant qualities, stops moisture too well and will collect from behind and erode the materials, especially in an ocean enviornment.
Landshark
mondone said:
Do not use this junk on your house. You will cause issues in the future and will be sorry down the road. Use a quality 100% acrylic exterior paint. Elastomeric paints have different moisture sealant qualities, stops moisture too well and will collect from behind and erode the materials, especially in an ocean enviornment.


Been there, done that. The elastomeric paint started blistering after about a year. Started on the beach side, but other areas followed later. Water collected inside the blisters and corroded the stucco. What a mess.
playaperro
Landshark said:
Been there, done that. The elastomeric paint started blistering after about a year. Started on the beach side, but other areas followed later. Water collected inside the blisters and corroded the stucco. What a mess.


So you guy's from encanto are saying to stay away from the dumb-edward stuff and use the sherman/williams paint that is now comex that sherman williams bought last year and spray that stuff on!? :stir: Sometimes they use thin-set to get that really fine finish and that stuff just flakes away. Writing about Exterior Paint. Interior I would only use the rag to paint.
mondone
playaperro said:
So you guy's from encanto are saying to stay away from the dumb-edward stuff and use the sherman/williams paint that is now comex that sherman williams bought last year and spray that stuff on!? :stir: Sometimes they use thin-set to get that really fine finish and that stuff just flakes away. Writing about Exterior Paint. Interior I would only use the rag to paint.


Not at all. Just use a good quality 100% acrylic paint, not an elastomeric. I used D-E. I like that brand personally and have had really good experience in the past. Pittsburgh good second choice and S-W should be pretty good also. Good prep is of upmost importance and using an elastomeric caulk for small cracks is OK to do. Rollers and brushes for the paint.
Landshark
playaperro said:
So you guy's from encanto are saying to stay away from the dumb-edward stuff and use the sherman/williams paint that is now comex that sherman williams bought last year and spray that stuff on!? :stir: Sometimes they use thin-set to get that really fine finish and that stuff just flakes away. Writing about Exterior Paint. Interior I would only use the rag to paint.


I'm a car guy, not a house painter. Dunn-Edwards has worked for me on my home, as long as you don't use elastomeric. What do you prefer Dog? You're the house painter. Seriously.
jerry
Floetrol Latex Conditioner is good to use if spraying.It makes the sprayer work better and slows drying time and slow is good