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UniVision Fast and Furious

Started by mexicoruss · Oct 1, 2012 · 6 replies
mexicoruss
Univision

This quote says a lot "The Univision broadcast implicitly suggested that Americans have no regard for the victims of violence American policy helps fuel — that is, until one of those victims ends up being an American. It wasn’t until U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder prompted whistle-blowers to come forward to Congress to publicly voice concerns about the program that the Obama administration stopped allowing firearms to flow into Mexico."



mis2810
mexicoruss said:
Univision

This quote says a lot "The Univision broadcast implicitly suggested that Americans have no regard for the victims of violence American policy helps fuel — that is, until one of those victims ends up being an American. It wasn’t until U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder prompted whistle-blowers to come forward to Congress to publicly voice concerns about the program that the Obama administration stopped allowing firearms to flow into Mexico."



It's true. The only time they care about the Mexicans that have died in the "War on Drugs" is when they need to update their numbers for the latest "don't go to Mexico" story. Just like they've never had any regard for the thousands of Iraquis and Afghans who have died in the "War on Terror". But when an American gets killed, you'd think it was Mother Theresa that got murdered. Why is an American's life any more valuable than a non-American life?????? [/LEFT]
mexicoruss
I have wondered that question for many years! Human life is human life regardless of where that life happens to live!
El Tiburon
To expand on my point in one of the other threads, the Merida Initiative was/is a joke! The US government knew then how the weapons were getting into Mexico. Our government allowed this slaughter of innocent people to take place and then they have to provide "cover" for themselves by this joke of stopping all people who are leaving the country at Lukeville. It is nothing more than "show and tell". I just wish there was had been a stronger official response from the Mexican government. Thank goodness Univision had the huevos to put that documentary on the air. Unforturnately it will not be seen my the vast majoirty of US citizens. Just one more example of how our government lies and people die!
playaperro
'Fast and Furious'. From Phoenix to Tubutama, the AK-47

MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2012 11:16 MILLENNIUM SONORA
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PoorWell imageNumerous attempts have been made over recent years to track a single weapon, purchased at a particular point in the United States, to the scene of a crime in Mexico.
We are north of Sonora, on the state road linking the towns of Saric and Tubutama, in a desert canyon Altar. It's the first of July 2010 and there are dead everywhere. In total, 21 bodies, officials said.
Our character-Russian-born, American-trained but whose presence is illegal in Mexico, is in the midst of what has all the earmarks of being a battleground between caps used and broken bodies. Virtually all vehicles, about 50 in total, are shot. Then they will know that the Beltran Leyva gunmen "venadearon" a Sinaloa cartel convoy from the cliff.
The object in question could be the one at the bottom of the rim of the white van, lying near a body wearing a tactical vest and skull is partially destroyed. Or the one in the front seat of a Ford pickup with the doors open. Or maybe I could be the one in the hands of a man lying face down in a pool of his own blood thick.
Who is looking for one of those three, because only those three found at the site cover the necessary description. Actually we seek a weapon Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947, better known as AK-47, and even more popular for its Mexican alias: goat horn. The deadliest assault rifle and widely used in the world.
In this case, we seek a rifle produced in a factory in Arizona under Russian license, then bought by a U.S. citizen in a store in Phoenix on November 11, 2009, and then sold illegally to the Sinaloa cartel for use in Mexico. Everything under the supervision of the Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff and Firearms U.S. (ATF, for its acronym in English).
It's one of those three. And for the first time, we know its exact origin.
Numerous attempts have been made over recent years to track a single weapon, purchased at a particular point in the United States, to the scene of a crime in Mexico. So far, the authorities of both countries have been reluctant to rebuild that trip. Have revealed neither serial numbers nor the precise origin of the weapons seized in Mexico, data which could establish a critical path from north to south.
But finally done something similar and can thus trace the journey of a weapon from one country to another. It was not until September 19, 2012 that the last of the necessary elements to the puzzle fell into place, to present the final report of the internal inspector of the Department of Justice United States on Operation Fast and Furious.
In addition to data contained in documents of the Federal Court of Arizona and investigations of the Supervisory Committee of the U.S. Congress, the Justice Department report allows for almost complete accuracy with the path taken by one of those assault rifles, from the date it was purchased and the name of the store where it was purchased, until the identity of the buyer, the price of the gun and its endpoint in Mexico, with a score of bodies.
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A Joshua David Moore can be defined as a "facade buyer" is someone who lends his name to purchase a gun in the U.S. but then illegally transferred to a third party.
The U.S. citizen is one of 20 co-defendants in the judicial process called USA vs. Jaime Avila et al, which currently runs the U.S. government against several arms dealers to whom responsibility for having sold a hundred assault rifles to the cartels Mexican drug. His case is part of the disaster called Operation Fast and Furious.
The court case against him, on the record CR-11-126-PHX, reveals that Moore did most of their shopping in one store: the Lone Wolf Trading Company in the 5140 West Peoria Avenue in Glendale, a Phoenix suburb.
It was at that store where the November 2, 2009 Moore became the first of hundreds of AK-47 rifles.On November 10 he returned with more money. I wanted to buy another dozen.
The purchase that concerns us, the linking David Moore with the slaughter of Tubutama, was held on November 11. That day acquired five AK-47 rifles which were then taken to a safe house fronted auto shop located south of Phoenix.
The weapons remained several days in the American company facilities Autobody, located at 3501 West Lincoln Avenue from, from where they were transported to the Mexican border, crossing it via Nogales.
The trace of the weapons purchased by Moore fades once in Mexico. But seven months later, a portion of that shipment reappeared.
"In July the first, 2010, about a dozen guns were recovered in Sonora, following a shootout between two rival Mexican cartels which resulted in 21 deaths. One of the recovered weapons had been purchased by the suspect of Operation Fast and Furious, Joshua David Moore, on 11 November 2009, "the Justice Department determined.
Is the AK-47 of Lone Wolf.
Roberto
I'ts not just American Policy, it's the American users that fund the violence. Every dollar spent to buy guns comes directly out of the pocket of a US drug user, a criminal in fact.
playaperro
An empty sack will not stand UP!