Be nice if it would happen but I think at this point it is not a schedule of events as much as it is a wish list. 24 famous musicians and comics without naming a single one ??!!
Be nice if it would happen but I think at this point it is not a schedule of events as much as it is a wish list. 24 famous musicians and comics without naming a single one ??!!
Kind of like the poster that was made up for the first Sprint Car race.
OK....I'm all for any good publicity and business that gets brought into Penasco, but looking at one of the posters...acts from the 60's, 70's and 80's???? What would that make those from the 60's (sorry GV Jack, if you're reading this!)? Assuming (yeah, that nasty term), that they were in their 20s, they'd be in their 70's now???????
Seems to me that you would have to have a contract in hand to actually name an entertainer and there would have to be money change hands to get the commitment from the talent, so ticket sales in this case is sort of like pre-selling the unbuilt condos, but with no floorplan or design ! Unless of course the promotor has very deep pockets.
What does anyone know about Boomer Fests ? Have there been others elsewhere? It will be interesting to see if anyone picks up that press release for a story as it came out of one of those internet press release services.
This thing is falling apart before it even gets started. What happened to the "major press release on September 14"? I am anxious to see how they plan to attract 70,000+ to the Mexican desert and how they arrived at a projected $45,000,000.00 cash infusion into the local economy.
Maybe it's their marketing strategy, like the Camel toe tried. You know secret place or event and the people go into a frenzy to find it and attend. There's a bar up in AZ, the Hideaway, that apparently had success with this strategy.
It's cool, I understand how complicated booking bands can be, coordinating venues and tour schedules to make it cost-effective, but I'm sure the traveling to Mexico part of it adds even more issues.
I hope that this festival comes to fruition - goodness knows that PP could use a positive financial impact and some good press. however, most festivals are booking out about 1 year in advance, especially those which are held annually in the same location. This being a new festival, it would make sense that just over 7 months away bands are not yet confirmed as there would only be promoter money available at this time. let's see what develops in the next month or 2, there should be some definite bands and announcements if this truly is going to happen at any scale close to what is advertised. I'm going to keep a positive, hopeful thought about this event :)
@joester, my understanding is that there is an account with 10.1 million seed money for the talent way ahead of the ticket sales. This group appears to be a machine.
Russ, do you know if there will be parking for us guys that live in town....., traveling back and forth each day and won't be staying in the tents? Shudder!
I heard that Russ is putting pontoons on his van and will water Taxi anyone that needs service!!
I was planning that but the mechanic advised me to re-chip the computer to boost the horsepower for that type of application so I dont think I will do it.....
Henry Altman; listen to him every Thursday; "it’s all about Mexico and you."
Discover the abundance of opportunities, in Mexico, to improve the quality of your life, manage your health and secure your financial independence. ...digs deep into the key success factors for people interested in travel, living, buying real estate, working, owning a business and leveraging medical services in Mexico. ...
From 2009 to present Henry bought 60 acres of beachfront property on the Sea of Cortes in Sonora, Mexico. His development is named La Frontera Oasis; it consists of 84 single family lots 12 condo pad sites for a total of 180 condos as well as an all-suites 125 room boutique hotel featuring a spa and restaurant.; ....
In 2011 Henry bought the license for the Escapeartist Mexico Website and then he created Escape to Mexico Magazine an online blog that is all about Mexico Ex-pat Life styles, travel, food, culture, real estate, living, working and retiring in Mexico. The Escapeartist Mexico Website was acquired to market Henry’s La Frontera Oasis Development as well as all other areas of Mexico.
So where is this list of artists??? I have yet to see a major festival launch their advertising campaign without an announcement of their artist lineup. There has to be a draw in order to attract customers. Even looking at their list of proposed acts, artists who normally play the state fair or casino circuit will not draw people to a foreign country. When you start sending out press releases that boast about a $50 million dollar impact to the local economy it would be wise to have an artist lineup that backs up the statement.
I am all for promoting tourism in Rocky Point and a well-planned event is more than welcome. We have had enough bad press from the real estate debacle and a drug war. There is enough negativity from events such as Penasco Palooza that has moved from March 17 to October 13 to November 10, we don't need more. I hope the promoters are able to pull this off. It would have been advisable for them to enlist AEG or Live Nation which control 90% of the concert tour industry. RP has seen its share of glossy sales brochures and press releases with promises of what is to come...let's hope this is not another to add to the pile.
Jerry, when I clicked on the link I wasn't able to see anything that contained info about a Henry Altman. I'm interested in following this, so please can you copy & paste or email to me? Gracias!
Jerry, when I clicked on the link I wasn't able to see anything that contained info about a Henry Altman. I'm interested in following this, so please can you copy & paste or email to me? Gracias!
Rosy this is the part that got my attention.It sounded like the person with the same name as the Boomerfest promoter was a well known effective scammer.
Let’s go back to 2002. Jerry came to Panama to retire. Jerry met Henry Altman through Don Winner. Henry Altman was advertising on Don Winners’ web site. Henry wanted Jerry to invest in a restaurant on the causeway called the PANAMA GRILL. Don was advertising it on his web site, the normal scam technique. Jerry thought it to be a good idea and wanted to invest in a restaurant. So, Jerry invested $116,000 into the venture. Don was and still is benefiting from these scammers by the advertising revenues and in most cases kickbacks from the land deals or promoters, i.e. Eddie Kahn Tax evasions scam, Tom McMurrain San Cristobol Scam.
Jerry, as a former US Department of Justice and former Texas Constable Advisor, wanted to make sure that no other unfortunate American would fall for the same tricks. Here's a YouTube to Verify what Jerry does:
Jerry Started RETIRE2PANAMA to bring to light the crooks and how they worked in Panama so that others would not loose, in some cases their life savings. Jerry found Don Winner to be one of the biggest scammers of them all. So, Jerry pointed it out on his web site for everyone to see. DON’T READ THE PANAMA-GUIDE unless you want to get scammed by the advertisers selling land deals or too good to be true investments. (Check his web site out it is full of these deals). Here’s their scam; Click on this link:
The only thing that he may have purchased the rights to or licensed is the subdomain mexco.escapeartist.com not the top level domain escapeartist.com and the subdomain drives very little if any traffic at all to the main domain, see below. So the spin was...to look like the main domain is the one that was licensed or purchased. The top level domain mexicoescapeartist dot com is available to be registered.
.... coincidence? you be the judge. I saw that and went on to see many other posts deleted, surely because Jerry Hall the Texan was being confused with Jerry Hall the model.
Henry used the "panama-guide" web side to get leads. He saw this as a successful way and probably is the reason he went on to purchase escape artists.
The Panamanian land deals are scary (pretty much dreams to good to be true) As they say, you can tell allot by the company they keep. Panama-guide first tag (hidden) is money laundering. Google is a relational data base and looks what you have been searching and tries to lead you there. They know easy come easy go, and if you are trying to hide $, you like to walk outside the rules.
You know what is strange, is after searching somehow I was brought to this; out of the blue, I said hey, I have seen this before.
I ran each of the names of the proposed artists through the database at Pollstar.com. Not looking good, Santana is booked at the House of Blues during this timeframe and a healthy portion of the other artists are booked on cruise ships or casinos.
I ran each of the names of the proposed artists through the database at Pollstar.com. Not looking good, Santana is booked at the House of Blues during this timeframe and a healthy portion of the other artists are booked on cruise ships or casinos.
Looks like you finished my sentence from my previous post
"10 to 1 that if you went to the web sites of those artist's you find that"
Might as well get in on this. I'm selling advanced tickets at a discount. You can tke %50 off the listed price of any ticket. Just send me the money in CASH and I GUARANTEE that I will keep the money safe and sound. !! How can you go wrong?
I suggest aht the forum not participate in promoting this until it's a bit clearer. Would be fab if it would happen but there is no evidence that it will. Wait till we see a llist of performers tht can be verified. It would look real bad for Penasco if this is actually a scam.
I vote we erase the promo postings, or attach qualifiers some how. Could invite the promoter to come on board to help out.
The first poster that was put out by Bob and that bunch about their big sprint car race was like this in the respect that I knew the cars and drivers in that first poster had prier races scheduled with no chance of them leaving that sanctioning body to race in Mexico. When I let them know I knew those pictures were of cars and drivers that could not possibly be at their event, they changed not only the poster, but put cars on it without their numbers showing.LOL
Also of the 2 sprint cars that did eventually show up, one driver owner Bobby Marcum for all practical purpose is retired, and Zach Sawyers folks who's young son Zach was there with his car for the second fiasco have had a place in Cholla Bay for some time. The Sawyers told me that they had a great time fooling around with Bobby in the sand pit.
I ran each of the names of the proposed artists through the database at Pollstar.com. Not looking good, Santana is booked at the House of Blues during this timeframe and a healthy portion of the other artists are booked on cruise ships or casinos.
FYI, The Carlos Santana "official" website does not show a conflict...just saying!
Anyway that website is only for booking a room or tent, it is not in charge of the booking arrangements for the bands that is up to Tony Miza person in charge.
Glad you asked, Julie...I was wondering the same thing.
Rosie you got the press release the same as I did you know what was in the press release. The other that was posted was not a press release it was preliminary and not for release. I have not gotten any new news as of yet so .....but thanks for daring to wonder
Vintage car and motorcycle show, YEA NO CHANCE IN HELL! Nobody in their right mind would bring a classic or vintage car/motorcycle to THE SAND pit. NO CHANCE IN HELL. That right there should tell you that this whole thing is a joke! I like how I told the forum and Russ about the Roger Clyne concert thats happening in two weeks at Wrecked and Russ said, I haven't heard anything I cant say but Russ springs out of his recliner to post about BOOMERFEST which happens to be some MIND F#CK to make all you BOOMS salivate hard. I posted an event that was actually happening and Russ denounced me and this is event is so outrageously overdone and not even close to set in stone and Russ posts it on here. I agree with ROBERTO, we need this off of our FORUM IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!
Rosie you got the press release the same as I did you know what was in the press release. The other that was posted was not a press release it was preliminary and not for release. I have not gotten any new news as of yet so .....but thanks for daring to wonder
What is the "preliminary" in this case Russ, a wish list, or a scam list?
Vintage car and motorcycle show, YEA NO CHANCE IN HELL! Nobody in their right mind would bring a classic or vintage car/motorcycle to THE SAND pit. NO CHANCE IN HELL. That right there should tell you that this whole thing is a joke! I like how I told the forum and Russ about the Roger Clyne concert thats happening in two weeks at Wrecked and Russ said, I haven't heard anything I cant say but Russ springs out of his recliner to post about BOOMERFEST which happens to be some MIND F#CK to make all you BOOMS salivate hard. I posted an event that was actually happening and Russ denounced me and this is event is so outrageously overdone and not even close to set in stone and Russ posts it on here. I agree with ROBERTO, we need this off of our FORUM IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!
Actually there is a motorcycle collector living in Las Conchas, him and his buddies have quite a few, They are the same people that started the harley run in November, they also go to other cities in Mexico, they also have a run to Agua Prieta that was introduced by them. Tranquillo.....
I suggest aht the forum not participate in promoting this until it's a bit clearer. Would be fab if it would happen but there is no evidence that it will. Wait till we see a llist of performers tht can be verified. It would look real bad for Penasco if this is actually a scam.
I vote we erase the promo postings, or attach qualifiers some how. Could invite the promoter to come on board to help out.
Roberto, I'm kind of in favor or maintaining the dialogue so we keep abreast of what's going on.
This current spate of information isn't so much promoting the event as it is promoting the questions that should be asked of anyone trying to sell this community a bill of goods. I was at the famous press conference, and what I heard wasn't exactly the way it was later reported. Within an hour, I'd google-d as many of them as possible. Some, such as Ignatius Jones, seem to be the real deal. I suspect there were potential pidgeons on both sides that day...and one ringleader: Henry Altman.
If they manage to bring any acts and any people, they'll be appreciated, but my BS meter goes off any time someone mentions this event.
Rosie you got the press release the same as I did you know what was in the press release. The other that was posted was not a press release it was preliminary and not for release. I have not gotten any new news as of yet so .....but thanks for daring to wonder
Some press releases are from news sources, but there are many that are no more than advertising made to look like news. There are 'press release services'. For an annual or monthly fee they'll take whatever you want to say about your service, business or event...or even about yourself...and make it look like a press release, then send it out to tons of publications to which they have access. When those publications need content, they take from those releases.
I understand your point that the 'preliminary' might not be accurate, but I don't put much faith in the later one either. That's why I don't see any harm in Brian re-publishing it. I know this forum, and if there are indescrepancies, one of these eagle eyes will catch it. That's why I'm okay with this thread continuing.
Frankly Russ, absolutely nothing has been published yet of any substance, anyway, so what's the diff?
Roberto, I'm kind of in favor or maintaining the dialogue so we keep abreast of what's going on.
This current spate of information isn't so much promoting the event as it is promoting the questions that should be asked of anyone trying to sell this community a bill of goods. I was at the famous press conference, and what I heard wasn't exactly the way it was later reported. Within an hour, I'd google-d as many of them as possible. Some, such as Ignatius Jones, seem to be the real deal. I suspect there were potential pidgeons on both sides that day...and one ringleader: Henry Altman.
If they manage to bring any acts and any people, they'll be appreciated, but my BS meter goes off any time someone mentions this event.
You know me Rosie, and this deal hasn't smelled good from the get go, and I'm not the only one who's caught a whiff of BS, and from the start. Lets just hope they pull something off that's going to be a + for PP though, we've had to many let downs already.
You know me Rosie, and this deal hasn't smelled good from the get go, and I'm not the only one who's caught a whiff of BS, and from the start. Lets just hope they pull something off that's going to be a + for PP though, we've had to many let downs already.
Kenny you cynical bastard don't you know they have The Big Bopper and Richie Valens booked?
You know me Rosie, and this deal hasn't smelled good from the get go, and I'm not the only one who's caught a whiff of BS, and from the start. Lets just hope they pull something off that's going to be a + for PP though, we've had to many let downs already.
I'm vice-president for tourism of our local chamber of commerce here, CANACO. At the last meeting we discussed the worst that could happen if this turns out to be the mess some of us are suspecting. The worse thing is that when someone finally does come down wanting to do a good and legitimate thing, no one will believe it or want to sponsor it.
And if I'm right and some of the people on that organizing committee are being taken for a ride, then it means they're currently willing to invest in something here and yet they'll soon regret having ever heard of Penasco.
On the other hand...what if Altman pulls this off? I'll not only want to be there, but I'll try to peddle insurance to those coming down for the concert. Ask me if I'm holding my breath, though.
Rosie Sez: Roberto, I'm kind of in favor or maintaining the dialogue so we keep abreast of what's going on.
I have no problem with dialog just hate to look like the forum is pushing the event until it's actually an event. It appears much worse than I initally thought. We don't need a black eye right now. Well maybe some do !!
Kenny you cynical bastard don't you know they have The Big Bopper and Richie Valens booked?
WE channeled a bunch of the old crew last night, Richie has a conflict but The Bopper will show if it happens, he said watch for him in the cloud formations!!
Rosie Sez: The worse thing is that when someone finally does come down wanting to do a good and legitimate thing, no one will believe it or want to sponsor it.
Might be true but I was thinking of several thousand people who paid big bucks and lost it. Another North Beach fiasco. "You can't trust anything in Mexico".
I have to admit, upon reading the list of Proposed Headlining Artists, my immediate thought was it looks like someone's wish list of who they'd LIKE to see in Rocky Point, not bearing any resemblence to reality. Unfortunately, it kind of reminds me of my ex-spouse, who would say things like, "I'm going to be getting this job...", when in reality, what really happened was, "I saw an ad in the paper for this job". I hope it comes together, for the sake of Puerto Penasco.
Concert area to be located on Sandy Beach between Wrecked at the Reef and Esmeralda. Parking, camping, and other event sites located in surrounding areas.
Producer Henry Altman and International Talent Agent Hal Ray have assembled a team of some of the most creative TV Producers and Festival Production experts in the entertainment industry to Co-Produce the first annual;
“BOOMER FEST” May 1-5 2013 at ROCKY POINT, MEXICO
MUSIC THAT DEFINED A GENERATION AND CREATED A CULTURE THAT CHANGED THE WORLD
PROPOSED HEADLINING ARTISTS
SANTANA + STEVIE WONDER + BOB DYLAN + CROSBY, STILLS & NASH + VAN MORRISON + AEROSMITH
JAMES TAYLOR & CAROL KING + LIONEL RICHIE + THE BEACHBOYS +
EARTH, WIND & FIRE + THE DOOBIE BROTHERS
PROPOSED ADDITIONAL PERFORMING ARTISTS
DON HENLEY + GLENN FREY + STEELY DAN + JOURNEY + THE ALLMAN BROTHERS
PAUL SHAFFER & CBS ORCH. + MICHAEL MC DONALD + BLONDIE + STEVE MILLER BAND
BOZZ SCAGGS + JOE WALSH + PETER FRAMPTON + TONY BENNETT + DIONNE WARWICK + SERGIO MENDEZ + HERBIE HANCOCK GEORGE BENSON + DAVID SANBORNE + BOB JAMES + SMOKEY ROBINSON + THE ISLEY BROTHERS
THE TEMPTATIONS + TOWER OF POWER + VINCE GILL + REBA MC ENTIRE + WILLIE NELSON + RANDY TRAVIS + LYLE LOVETT BILL COSBY + CHEECH & CHONG + JAY LENO + GEORGE LOPEZ + EDDIE MURPHY + DAN AYKROYD + BILLY CRYSTAL
BILL MURRAY + CHEVY CHASE + ROBIN WILLIAMS + ROSEANNE BARR + GALLAGHER + ELLEN DE GENERES