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Final Report by DEFente on Shooting!

Started by playaperro · Aug 5, 2012 · 33 replies
playaperro
ALTERA shooting QUIET CITY, DEAD LEAVES 6
http://defrente.com.mx/2012/08/balacera-altera-tranquilidad-de-la-ciudad-deja-6-muertos/
August 8, 2012
By: Body of Editors
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A confrontation between two groups shot criminal left a toll to five gunmen dead on a public street, as well as an agent of the PEI when elements of the State Police Investigator (PEI) tried to arrest a criminal gang.
immediately transcended one of the protagonists of the shooting was Ramon Sabori Cisneros, Cisneros Sabori brother Raul, aka "The Black", who until his arrest in April 2011 at a hotel in Hermosillo, was identified as a lieutenant in the Sinaloa cartel Sonora, confidence man Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.
The confrontation that caused panic among rocaportenses, was staged at 17:30 am on Thursday, July 19 near the sports fields "From Oval" near the secondary No. 27 and behind the School for Special Education "The Mountain", where according to a statement from the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) faced two criminal groups leaving three gunmen killed there.
"Agents came PEI around 18:00 pm that day to a call where a citizen reported detonations of firearm. Arriving in the immediate area, they found evidence of a clash between two criminal groups, which killed three alleged gunmen, "goes the press release.
On the site, as well as the bodies of three suspected criminals, the police seized two vehicles : an armored Chevrolet, pickup type, line Avalanche, gray, late model, and a Sedan Pontiac Grand Am line, late model, a rifle, two handguns and a grenade.In the immediate area found another rifle shot hard.
"By implementing an operation in search of offenders and to navigate the Fremont Boulevard, the elements of the IEP are faced with a pick-up truck for the Dodge brand, color white, late model vehicle from an individual who shoots down the elements of the State Research, which repel the attack, killing the agent of the PEI Francisco Vasquez Espinoza 34 years of age. "
"In the place, an alleged offender fell lifeless, even that was in his possession a rifle, a handgun and a grenade. The rest of the crew of the vehicle in his escape from the elements also fired, wounding three of the officers, one of whom died while receiving medical care and the other two were reported out of danger, "says the PGJE in the statement.
Although the official report testifies to a policeman dead, local media reported that during the early Friday killed one of the officers involved in the operation, but that was not confirmed.
In continuing the operation in the garage of a house in the colony Sports, PEI agents located the body of another person who apparently participated in the confrontation between the two criminal groups.
Subsequently, the Mexican Army in the bypass road Peñasco to Sonoyta found a Dodge vehicle, white, late model, with blood stains, so it is presumed to be the same in which the gunmen fled.
Inside the vehicle were found for rifles supplied chargers .
staff went to the place of Expert Services of the Attorney General of the State and the Public Prosecutor of the civil courts, which ordered the lifting and transporting the bodies to conduct the proceedings of law.
Three days later they were identified and returned to their families that the five alleged gunmen were killed in facts.
It was Jose Ramon Sabori Cisneros, 46-year-old native of ejido Ortega, Baja California. Among his belongings was found a driver's license in the name of Ignacio Juarez Cisneros, whose picture matches the physical characteristics of the now deceased.
Oscar Manuel Cardenas Garcia, 28-year-old native of Otalillos, Badiraguato, Sinaloa, Julio Cesar Acosta Contreras, 30-year-old native of Ciudad Obregon, Sonora.
Froylan Romualdo Gaxiola Ochoa, 34-year-old native of El Fuerte, Sinaloa, who was found a driver's license in the name of Wilfredo Acosta Lugo, and Jose Humberto Elenes Morales, a native of El Fuerte, Sinaloa.image Comments: No comments

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Roberto
I wonder why there are no reports from Carnac included in this summary?!!?
playaperro
Roberto said:
I wonder why there are no reports from Carnac included in this summary?!!?


Why are you over venting Roberto? why are you putting up a smoke screen over this? Don't come around clowning up with me...
JGattheSea
only 6 dead? see USA rocks when it comes to death tolls in shootings ... the Wisconsin guy upped it by one ..... (ooommmmggg thats such bad form but true in the fact that media tries to push Penasco as unsafe.... check the details and what is it 5 bad dead in Mexico ... in USA 7 good dead) whats safer? Guess it depends on if you are the good guy or the bad guy
azfish
I would rather read a story about no shots were fired but people had bloody knuckles and faces.
JGattheSea
personally I would rather read a story that #6 shrimp were $1/pound .. but then I would wake up in a cold sweat knowing I was dreaming
playaperro
Does anyone know how many vehicles were involved in this ruckus when the red team of sicarios shot up the avalanche and the pontiac, sounds like they spit up and ran in different direction. I take it when the Pei police caught up with the sicarios on fremont by Oceanos they did not know what kind of firepower they had. I know the Pei has M16 for firepower along with glocks, a few carry M4's not many.
jerry
Later that day many 8 cars with 5 men in each..kevlar,smaller machine guns drove out to Santo Tomas..got out and looked around then left....still don't know what was up but I later heard they were trying to show us everything is under control (not sure I bekieve that)
playaperro
Who's your boss out there Jerry? Quintero
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
Who's your boss out there Jerry? Quintero

Kiki Camerena is the answer................ Carnac The Magnificent......................... Quintero's sister is still a neighbor of Jerry's before the Y.
playaperro
Kiki still after jaime fig for throwing that grenade on their house?
lagrimas85
Rafael Caro Quintero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia His favorite hang out was Las Conchas...... He murdered Kiki Camerena Thats what has him in the pen.
playaperro
miguel angel runs Jerrys place , you threw me a curve and i bit.
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
miguel angel runs Jerrys place , you threw me a curve and i bit.


The old ones were different, some of these people that are members of Rocky Point Talk are Facebook friends with one of them. He is out of it now, but they don't know his history.
jerry
Is Miguel Angel the guy with the Gold armored Jeep with a half shot off ear? he is pretty nice........I went to Rafael's sisters ranch to buy some staw bales....man what a place...they were nice but told me next time they had some they would bring them by and oh...this is not a place to just drop by!
playaperro said:
miguel angel runs Jerrys place , you threw me a curve and i bit.
lagrimas85
jerry said:
Is Miguel Angel the guy with the Gold armored Jeep with a half shot off ear? he is pretty nice........I went to Rafael's sisters ranch to buy some staw bales....man what a place...they were nice but told me next time they had some they would bring them by and oh...this is not a place to just drop by!


Driveway still lined with palm trees, Jerry.
playaperro
I have not been to the ranch ever since it went off limits...Horse's have A/C stalls, went to a party there and they had a huge tent with ana barbara singing.
lagrimas85
Ana Barbara......She was a beauty, back in the 90's.
playaperro
lagrimas85 said:
Ana Barbara......She was a beauty, back in the 90's.


All mexican women love the top Narcos us cabrones don't have a prayer, we have to buy our love a guau guau's,,,
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
All mexican women love the top Narcos us cabrones don't have a prayer, we have to buy our love a guau guau's,,,

No Money........No Honey
moore_rb
playaperro said:
All mexican women love the top Narcos us cabrones don't have a prayer, we have to buy our love a guau guau's,,,



HAH - I don't think there's any "love" in either situation... perhaps the experience at guau guau's is actually more genuine?

If you find an ugly chick is a better firecracker in the sack, then why waste time chasing the self obsessed hot ones..?

HAHAHA let the rich Narco's be the ones hearing "Not tonight - I have to do my hair..."
Kenny
moore_rb said:
HAH - I don't think there's any "love" in either situation... perhaps the experience at guau guau's is actually more genuine?

If you find an ugly chick is a better firecracker in the sack, then why waste time chasing the self obsessed hot ones..?

HAHAHA let the rich Narco's be the ones hearing "Not tonight - I have to do my hair..."


Like the old song says. "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife, so my friends I say to you, get a ugly girl to marry you." What some of you might not know is that the author and singer of this song was as ugly as sin with a ugly wife to match; but after he made a bundle off this song he dumped her for a doll. I just made the last part up:razz:, but theirs no question that $$ will make even a ugly man attractive to more than just a few woman.
moore_rb
Kenny said:
theirs no question that $$ will make even a ugly man attractive to more than just a few woman.


Just like there's no question that a lot of Ugly women are disguised by a pretty face, and a big set of hooters....
jerry
lagrimas85 said:
Driveway still lined with palm trees, Jerry.
it is unreal...you expect Ricardo Montaban to come out ..the palm trees are doing good and she has some horses that are knockouts...
lagrimas85
jerry said:
it is unreal...you expect Ricardo Montaban to come out ..the palm trees are doing good and she has some horses that are knockouts...

The Quintero's were born in La Noria Sinaloa, Jerry. You know they had a great life as kids. Fabi and I as a side trip in 2006, drove up into the mountains, to see the little factories. Like the guy say's in the video, this is the real Mexico. Fabiola took a trip to Matzatlan in 2010, for a dentist convention, her and her friends decided to go to La Noria and were told nobody would take them, the narcos had the road closed and had taken over the town.LA NORIA SINALOA UN MUNDO MAGICO - YouTube In 2006, we also stopped by the Osuna Tequila Distillery and took the tour.
MIRAMAR
How sad- that does look like the perfect Mexican town, and to hear it's now closed, the townspeople must hate what the cartel has done.
playaperro
moore_rb said:
Just like there's no question that a lot of Ugly women are disguised by a pretty face, and a big set of hooters....


Is this from personal experience?
moore_rb
playaperro said:
Is this from personal experience?


Hey- I dated my fair share of superficial cheerleaders back in the day. I wasn't ALWAYS bald headed and leather-faced from the sun, you know...:cheers:

The good looking chicks were always high maintenance (spend more money on them, get less sex from them, and have to listen to them drone on about pointless, boring things like what color nail polish I think they should wear).... ugh- Just shoot me.

I always found myself attracted to women who were INTERESTING PEOPLE first, and a pretty face second.
jerry
Loser
Hey just kidding..as you know I think you are a cool character....I think you should edit your comment before your wife or girlfriend Gaffs you

QUOTE=moore_rb;62531]Hey- I dated my fair share of superficial cheerleaders back in the day. I wasn't ALWAYS bald headed and leather-faced from the sun, you know...:cheers:

The good looking chicks were always high maintenance (spend more money on them, get less sex from them, and have to listen to them drone on about pointless, boring things like what color nail polish I think they should wear).... ugh- Just shoot me.

I always found myself attracted to women who were INTERESTING PEOPLE first, and a pretty face second.[/QUOTE]
Last edited: Aug 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM
moore_rb
jerry said:
Loser



HAH.

MORE ad hominem name calling...? Why do you attack me personally?

Boo hoo hoo image

I thought the LAST thing a bleeding heart would do is try to deliberately hurt someone else's feelings. More hypocrisy. I LOVE it.


Do you SERIOUSLY think I live my life to impress socially and intellectually under-developed cretins who post inane diatribe and outright insanity on Internet forums?


Who is the loser, again?


Look, Moron (since you pulled the glove off first) - This thread is about the shooting. I'm not going to derail it even further; except to state that my cracks about girls were a joking exchange between myself and Dog... I don't know who invited you.

NO more posts from me in this thread except about the shooting.
jerry
see my edit my brother!
moore_rb said:
HAH.

MORE ad hominem name calling...? Why do you attack me personally?

Boo hoo hoo :sad:

I thought the LAST thing a bleeding heart would do is try to deliberately hurt someone else's feelings. More hypocrisy. I LOVE it.


Do you SERIOUSLY think I live my life to impress socially and intellectually under-developed cretins who post inane diatribe and outright insanity on Internet forums?


Who is the loser, again?
moore_rb
:gayfight:



:cheers:
rplarry
Looks like the joker is back. Stuart, can you delete Happy's new identity or ban him?

He's reminds me of like when you were young and there was always that little annoying kid that you give 100 chances to, after he's picking on others, annoying the heck out of everyone. You feel bad for wanting to knock him out, so you don't. But then one day, the straw breaks the camel's back, and someone breaks his nose...

I think we need a nose breaker!
Stuart
He's not back on this forum. The Rocky Point Rally forum is a totally different website operated by someone else. It appears Stingray cut and pasted his posts from over there to here. Stingray? Please... don't do that. It just gives him the publicity he seeks. Thanks.