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Fiesta cruiser shipwrecked, tourist dies

Started by PitiquitoRosy · Oct 25, 2011 · 202 replies
PitiquitoRosy
At around 7pm on Tuesday, personnel from the marines, police, fire department and municipal Civil Protection were called on to rescue 44 tourists after the popular Fiesta Cruiser in Puerto Penasco lost all steering and was left adrift on the Sea of Cortez. Unconfirmed reports said that the cruise ship had hit something.

Tragically, an American tourist died as a result of what appeared to be a heart attack during the rescue operation.

Strong winds complicated the rescue efforts, which took several hours. It is unusual for cruise operators to risk taking the tours out when when winds are blowing as they were on Tuesday.

At this time neither details of the ship’s mechanical problems or the fatality are available.
GringoZona
Wow. How awful. Until I saw the Fiesta Cruiser official website, I kept thinking, "No, it couldn't be that giant white ship," but it is! http://fiestacruiser.com/

Pretty scary, and I just made a comment the other day about how the local tour boats never seem go past Whale Mountain on the sunset cruises anymore, although this one makes day trips out to Bird Island as well. Any word on which type of cruise it was?
mis2810
Wow. I was just on that boat on October 8th.
AZ ROB
Prayers are with the lost and their family members.
InkaRoads
I feel sorry for the death that occurred due to the accident, however I've noticed that the ship, at least the one I went on, was in bad need of upkeep and not just cleaning and if it is the same boat would not surprise me that it could be possibly due to maintenance more than hitting a rock that was not there in the other 20 thousand times the boat went over the same trayectory!! also heard he got a new to him boat and rumor has it that it was stressed enough to be taken out of the water for good or used for and artificial reef!!
mis2810
GringoZona said:
Wow. How awful. Until I saw the Fiesta Cruiser official website, I kept thinking, "No, it couldn't be that giant white ship," but it is! http://fiestacruiser.com/

Pretty scary, and I just made a comment the other day about how the local tour boats never seem go past Whale Mountain on the sunset cruises anymore, although this one makes day trips out to Bird Island as well. Any word on which type of cruise it was?


I remember you making that comment the other day and I was thinking you were correct. They didn't go very far out at all anymore. The reason they always gave for leaving late was that El Capitan was drunk. I heard that more than one time.
Mexico Joe
Im sorry to hear about this guy. I immediately clicked on the thread thinking the ship sunk. Rosie, drifting in the sea and shipwrecked are two very different things.
playaperro
Mexico Joe said:
Im sorry to hear about this guy. I immediately clicked on the thread thinking the ship sunk. Rosie, drifting in the sea and shipwrecked are two very different things.


Thank You Mj...
mis2810
Why couldn't they tow the boat back? Where's it going to end up?
PitiquitoRosy
Mexico Joe said:
Im sorry to hear about this guy. I immediately clicked on the thread thinking the ship sunk. Rosie, drifting in the sea and shipwrecked are two very different things.


The word in the press release was shipwrecked. Shipwrecked doesn't necessarily mean sunk. It means destroyed by weather conditions or collision. The press release used the word "naufrago". That's good enough for me. What it says and what you think it says are two very different things, Joe.
PitiquitoRosy
playaperro said:
Thank You Mj...


Ha! Perhaps it wouldv'e been easier to what you're famous for: copy and past into Google Translator for a version no one can understand. It's your only claim to fame, Dude.
playaperro
Peñasco Fiesta Cruiser sinks and dies in a tourist
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2011 22:11 RAMON CONTRERAS RAMOS PUERTO PENASCO
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PoorWell
http://www.numerounoonline.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10349:naufraga-fiesta-cruiser-en-penasco-y-muere-una-turista&catid=42:puerto-penasco&Itemid=109
The boat with 44 tourists one of them a minor, was left stranded in the navigation channel to be losing the rudder and drift.

Unfortunately an American tourist died sixties presumably by a heart condition after the boat he was traveling, the Fiesta Cruiser dedicated to inshore tourist had an accident around seven p.m. Tuesday that wrecked it in the navigation channel Puerto.

The accident was presented at around 7 pm and immediately acted fire police rescue corps, marine, civil rescue organizations, Municipal Civil Protection. At nearly 10 pm, rescue work was completed.

It is unknown what caused the accident that caused the collapse of the embaración, but unofficially it is known that the ship hit the sea floor tepetate and lost rudder at the situation drifted and victim in addition to the strong winds that this time whipping the port, according to early reports. Even one of the boats in the Marina was also about to be stranded while trying to help the Party Cruiser. On the other hand learned that the port was closed to navigation due to bad weather and yet is unknown because the ship's owners came to sail.

Cruizer Boat Festival Erl called, has several years for seagoing tours in the vicinity of the Port and was originally a fishing boat is outfitted to transport tourists. This same boat and had an accident a few months ago when it hit the pier in the port area. At that time no one was injured.

Must await the report of the authorities responsible for the investigation to determine the causes of the shipwreck as this type of incident affects the image of Puerto Peñasco, especially to know if the boat met the security requirements that are imposed to be authorized to navigate. On several occasions he was overloaded with tourists

Took rescue workers more than four hours in care work travelers who suffered nervous breakdowns because of the fear passed, and unfortunately it is known unofficially the death of an American tourist who died of a heart attack.

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playaperro
PitiquitoRosy said:
Ha! Perhaps it wouldv'e been easier to what you're famous for: copy and past into Google Translator for a version no one can understand. It's your only claim to fame, Dude.


What is your claim to fame Rosa? That you are much smarter and prettier than most women your age!!!!!
PitiquitoRosy
playaperro said:
What is your claim to fame Rosa? That you are much smarter and prettier than most women your age!!!!!


Well thank you for noticing, but no...that isn't it. Hopefully it's that I have something of value to contribute to my surroundings and to the people around me.

I actually see your copy and paste jobs as something of a contribution to the forum. Keep 'em coming.
playaperro
PitiquitoRosy said:
Well thank you for noticing, but no...that isn't it. Hopefully it's that I have something of value to contribute to my surroundings and to the people around me.

I actually see your copy and paste jobs as something of a contribution to the forum. Keep 'em coming.


No it's not something i noticed Those are your own words on that email you calling me a pansy...
Seadweller
This is really sad news... our prayers go out to the family and friends of the woman that lost her life during tragedy... This boat had another mishap and loss of life out at the island that rarely ever gets mentioned... it was when the drunken bartender on the boat went down the sliding board on the back of the boat and landed on a passenger who was already in the water and broke her neck...
Last edited: Oct 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Mexico Joe
Yea sure no! Shipwrecked means you hit something destroyed the vessel and now the situation is FUBAR. Shipwrecked doesnt mean drifting at sea because the rudder doesnt work. I mean the key word here is WRECKED, as in destroyed...
Mexico Joe
PitiquitoRosy said:
The word in the press release was shipwrecked. Shipwrecked doesn't necessarily mean sunk. It means destroyed by weather conditions or collision. The press release used the word "naufrago". That's good enough for me. What it says and what you think it says are two very different things, Joe.



What it says is shipwrecked and what I think is what Shipwrecked means, a ship that has wrecked. Be it the bottom of the ocean or laying destroyed on some rocky point or beach, either way the ship has wrecked. Then I read about it and the ship was just floating around the sea... this is hardly shipwrecked. Thank you
jerry
Joe maybe they meant the Captain was wrecked?
Seadweller
The word is that this boat had a huge hole in it and they kept taking it out anyway (greed)... this boat was a shipwreck looking for a place to happen...
GringoZona
As I've seen it drag back and forth while enjoying a sunset from afar at various establishments along the Malecon, I've noticed the rust along the bottom has gotten more prominent over the last year. Maybe they're just not painting over it as often anymore, but I remember a friend making the comment that there was no way in hell she'd get on that thing. (Not that she had any nautical expertise, it just looked like a dolphin's nose could poke a hole in the side, and who knew how bad it looked below.) I would joke that it never went much past the BooBar anyway, so we could just swim back to the shore after it sank for a quick drink.

Here's a pic from October of 2010. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PaPrLCjG-vE/TLYgJA64NaI/AAAAAAAAGiU/Yl7gkl1Shq0/s1600/IMG_0123.jpg
mexicoruss
Fiesta cruiser retired.jpgFiesta on the beach.jpg Fiesta on the beach 2.jpg
mis2810
Russ - I can't tell from the picture where that is. Did they tow it back to the port or did it wash up somewhere?
Roberto
It apparently happened in a very low tide with lots of wind. The ship is sitting on the bottom off the beach near Las Gaviotas, in front of the empty beach parcel. According to an eye witness, the boat was listing badly in the sea, apparently stuck on the bottom and the passengers had difficulty getting off. The beach and sea was full of passengers, police and bomberos. It was shallow enough that the passengers could walk to the beach. Lots of crap floating around this morning. I should have some pics later.

The ship appears to have washed up on the beach when the tide came in.
Last edited: Oct 26, 2011 at 12:46 PM
mexicoruss
mis2810 said:
Russ - I can't tell from the picture where that is. Did they tow it back to the port or did it wash up somewhere?

I dont know first hand but I heard it lost steering and was drifting in the waves with pretty high winds so where it is parked is probably a good thing for the passengers. I had friends on the boat I will tell their story when I hear it.
GringoZona
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=ISONORAP1&day=25&year=2011&month=10

If you look at the gusts and sustained wind on the 3rd graph down on this link for yesterday's Penasco hourly weather conditions, it appears as though the wind (at least way over at the Casa Weez station, which is on the other end of Penasco in Playa La Jolla, towards Mayan Palace) didn't get past 20mph until 7pm or so, when Rosie's post mentioned authorities were alerted. It climbed to 30mph at the station and pretty much stayed up there between 8:30 to 9:30. Who knows how much faster the winds were blowing by the port, much less further out to sea. That had to have been a harrowing experience on either level of that ship, especially for some retirees looking for a tranquil sunset cruise. Not knowing exactly how far inland the station is, has anyone ever compared the difference between these readings and those just out to sea? Those of you who go out on the sea often, would it be foolish to ask if a good rule of thumb adding 10mph or so to inland readings, or is it almost impossible to gauge on any given day unless in the water or on the shore?


Also, in the translation of the original article it said the port was closed and thus prevented one of the boats initially in getting out of the Marina to help. How bad do the winds have to be before it becomes a bad idea to go out and/or the port gets shut down? I realize the tragic incident in San Felipe earlier in the year had its own set of complexities, but I remember govt. officials in Mexico talking tough about cracking down on these chartered boats. Beyond making sure there are enough life jackets for each passenger, has much else been done to make sure they are in safety (and working order) compliance?
Seadweller
I was just down there looking at it from the otherside of port... it's funny that it's almost in the same area of the last shipwreck that was a part of sandy beach for so long before the hotels and condos came along...

It sure would be nice if the port authorities could tow this wreck out to the south just off of Whale Hill and let it become a natural reef for divers and dedicate it to the memory of the woman who lost her life due to this tragedy...
Last edited: Oct 26, 2011 at 1:28 PM
mexicoruss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayQGMYPY_RA

Heres a video comparison from 1994 to 2010 at .34 you will see another wreck - Like Mark said pretty much in the same spot
GringoZona
Roberto said:
It apparently happened in a very low tide with lots of wind. The ship is sitting on the bottom off the beach near Las Gaviotas, in front of the empty beach parcel. According to an eye witness, the boat was listing badly in the sea, apparently stuck on the bottom and the passengers had difficulty getting off. The beach and sea was full of passengers, police and bomberos. It was shallow enough that the passengers could walk to the beach. Lots of crap floating around this morning. I should have some pics later.

The ship appears to have washed up on the beach when the tide came in.


Yup, makes sense now:
2011-10-25 05:51 PM MST Sunset
2011-10-25 06:43 PM MST -4.00 feet Low Tide
2011-10-26 01:08 AM MST 18.47 feet High Tide
Seadweller
View from otherside of port

View from otherside of port...

Fiesta Wreck 001.jpgFiesta Wreck 010.jpgFiesta Wreck 009.jpgFiesta Wreck 030.jpg
image
mexicoruss
http://rockypoint360.com/tragedy-strikes-fiesta-cruiser-in-rocky-point/

Another article to look at with more pics just got posted
PintoPoint
Notice the size of the anchor and anchor rode. That would not even come close to holding that ship.


mexicoruss said:
Fiesta cruiser retired.jpgFiesta on the beach.jpg Fiesta on the beach 2.jpg




Rick
Cholla Bay
Seadweller
Today is the new moon and high tide was at 1:10pm I hope it didn't pick up the Fiesta and set it adrift... at 1:50am the tide gets so high it goes off the top of the charts, maybe the Fiesta will float off and become a ghoast ship before Halloween...
Roberto
Seadweller said:
Today is the new moon and high tide was at 1:10pm I hope it didn't pick up the Fiesta and set it adrift... at 1:50am the tide gets so high it goes off the top of the charts, maybe the Fiesta will float off and become a ghoast ship before Halloween...


Hey, there's our pirate ship to terrorize the Sea of Cortez. Aarrrgh Matey !! Where did I leave that sword?
jerry
man that must have been a long night......
http://www.numerounoonline.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=13&layout=blog&Itemid=109
maybe she drowned?
Last edited: Oct 26, 2011 at 2:27 PM
tortuga
I was on the boat last night with a large group from the singles club here in Penasco. As we leaving the harbor at very low tide we became stuck on a sandbar in the exit channel before leaving the harbor. It took almost an hour to get off and then when we came out on the open sea it was obvious the Captain could not steer the boat. We drifted around and then went broadside to the waves. Chairs and tables went flying on the upper deck and many people fell, but no one seemed injured. The crew gave everyone life jackets and made sure they were on correctly. Everyone moved down to the lower deck and a Navy boat came along side and unloaded about half the passengers. When it returned for more people the wind and waves had picked up and it was too dangerous to offload people. We were pushed in sideways towards Sandy Beach and when we hit the sand the boat listed towards the beach. We were about a 100 yards from the water line on the beach in about 3 feet of water. We all then jumped off the rear of the boat one by one and walked in the surf to the beach. The waves were 2-3 feet high and would lift you off the bottom for a few seconds, but it was a pretty easy walk to the beach. We did have a lot of people in there 70s and 80s on the boat and although numerous people were very frightened, at no time did I feel my life was in danger as we were always in shallow water close to shore. Navy personnel and paramedics met everyone on the beach to make sure they were OK. Except for my friend who had a heart attack and passed away as far as I know the only other injuries were a few bruises. The Navy took everyone in buses back to our vehicles on the other side of the harbor. The crew did a reasonably good job especially considering they are probably not well trained for this type of situation. I hope this helps everyone to know what happened.
PitiquitoRosy
jerry said:


Early reports said heart attack and this article says she drowned. Very sad.
PitiquitoRosy
tortuga said:
I was on the boat last night with a large group from the singles club here in Penasco. As we leaving the harbor at very low tide we became stuck on a sandbar in the exit channel before leaving the harbor. It took almost an hour to get off and then when we came out on the open sea it was obvious the Captain could not steer the boat. We drifted around and then went broadside to the waves. Chairs and tables went flying on the upper deck and many people fell, but no one seemed injured. The crew gave everyone life jackets and made sure they were on correctly. Everyone moved down to the lower deck and a Navy boat came along side and unloaded about half the passengers. When it returned for more people the wind and waves had picked up and it was too dangerous to offload people. We were pushed in sideways towards Sandy Beach and when we hit the sand the boat listed towards the beach. We were about a 100 yards from the water line on the beach in about 3 feet of water. We all then jumped off the rear of the boat one by one and walked in the surf to the beach. The waves were 2-3 feet high and would lift you off the bottom for a few seconds, but it was a pretty easy walk to the beach. We did have a lot of people in there 70s and 80s on the boat and although numerous people were very frightened, at no time did I feel my life was in danger as we were always in shallow water close to shore. Navy personnel and paramedics met everyone on the beach to make sure they were OK. Except for my friend who had a heart attack and passed away as far as I know the only other injuries were a few bruises. The Navy took everyone in buses back to our vehicles on the other side of the harbor. The crew did a reasonably good job especially considering they are probably not well trained for this type of situation. I hope this helps everyone to know what happened.


Hi Dick, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. At the same time, I'm glad that you're alright and the same goes for the rest of the passengers. Thank you for taking the time to tell us what really happened.
moore_rb
Dick- sorry to hear about your friend...RIP

Looking at the pictures- if the rudder hadn't broken it looks like it only would have been a matter of time before the bottom rusted through.

Agree with Mark- tow that sucker out to 65 feet of water and send it down for good...
Ladyjeeper
Sorry to hear of your loss, Dick....
El Gato
Thank you for the update and we are very sorry about your friend.

tortuga said:
I was on the boat last night with a large group from the singles club here in Penasco. As we leaving the harbor at very low tide we became stuck on a sandbar in the exit channel before leaving the harbor. It took almost an hour to get off and then when we came out on the open sea it was obvious the Captain could not steer the boat. We drifted around and then went broadside to the waves. Chairs and tables went flying on the upper deck and many people fell, but no one seemed injured. The crew gave everyone life jackets and made sure they were on correctly. Everyone moved down to the lower deck and a Navy boat came along side and unloaded about half the passengers. When it returned for more people the wind and waves had picked up and it was too dangerous to offload people. We were pushed in sideways towards Sandy Beach and when we hit the sand the boat listed towards the beach. We were about a 100 yards from the water line on the beach in about 3 feet of water. We all then jumped off the rear of the boat one by one and walked in the surf to the beach. The waves were 2-3 feet high and would lift you off the bottom for a few seconds, but it was a pretty easy walk to the beach. We did have a lot of people in there 70s and 80s on the boat and although numerous people were very frightened, at no time did I feel my life was in danger as we were always in shallow water close to shore. Navy personnel and paramedics met everyone on the beach to make sure they were OK. Except for my friend who had a heart attack and passed away as far as I know the only other injuries were a few bruises. The Navy took everyone in buses back to our vehicles on the other side of the harbor. The crew did a reasonably good job especially considering they are probably not well trained for this type of situation. I hope this helps everyone to know what happened.
GringoZona
Probably in poor taste to speculate so early on, but a person who knew someone on the boat had mentioned a drowning on Russ's Facebook wall around 10am. Combine that with the article posted above, and how sad to think that she may have collapsed on the walk back to the beach from the boat and could not be revived later on. Must have been easy to lose sight of someone for a minute or so, with all the waves in the darkness. Very sad, and my condolences to you, Dick, and whomever is reading this that knew your friend Evelyn.
PitiquitoRosy
moore_rb said:
Dick- sorry to hear about your friend...RIP

Looking at the pictures- if the rudder hadn't broken it looks like it only would have been a matter of time before the bottom rusted through.

Agree with Mark- tow that sucker out to 65 feet of water and send it down for good...


The press release said that the call for help came at around 7pm and help was dispatched immediately. The rescue operation reportedly took 4 hours.
Esperanza
So sorry for your loss.
Mexico Joe
I want to publicly apologize to Rosie. Im sorry Rosie, now that Ive seen the pictures, yes I would call that a shipwreck. Once again Im sorry.
beachgirl
So very sorry about Evelyn, Dick and even more sorry that something that could have easily been prevented......wasn't.
rockyptjoe
Seadweller said:
The word is that this boat had a huge hole in it and they kept taking it out anyway (greed)... this boat was a shipwreck looking for a place to happen...


Put a temporary patch on it...tow it out and sink it for a reef!
DeeDee
Sorry for your loss, glad your doing fine. Hope to meet you mid January when we come down for a month. Will be staying at PDO.
Seadweller
Dick, I'm very sorry over the loss of your friend... may her spirit rest in peace.
mondone
Condolences, Dick. Sorry to hear about this terrible tragedy.
GringoZona
Seadweller said:
View from otherside of port...

Fiesta Wreck 001.jpgFiesta Wreck 010.jpgFiesta Wreck 009.jpgFiesta Wreck 030.jpg
image


And the accompanying video... http://youtu.be/IzPmIuN0fjQ
Mexico Joe
So what are they going to do now?
flagjay
Dick, Jim and I are so glad you are safe, but our friend Marian lost her best friend in this terrible event. I'll let Tom and M.Alice know you are okay. alice in Flagstaff/previously PdeO.
reportjones
Tragic. Thank goodness notbody else was hurt, or worse.
AZ ROB
Strip it down of all contaminates cut some large holes in the bottom, place some blow off patches over the holes, drag out to 80' deep water and blow the patches. Be even better if you could get the pirate ship with some fireworks to shoot a cannon ball as it sinks. Then set up a 5 square mile non-fishing zone and start attracting divers to Puerto Penasco to come see the new dive park....That would make it the closest dive park to AZ. It would be far enough off shore so the visibility would be great as well. You could place a plaque on the wreck in honor of Evelyn
moore_rb
You had me right up until the 5 square mile no-fishing zone...:har:


I must now declare you to be a scuba snob.
rockyptjoe
I haven't done any diving in too many years...but I sure wouldn't want someone drifting over a dive spot and hooking into me....maybe the "sports" fishermen would respect an area around a known dive spot...but I'm not that sure the locals would....
AZ ROB
moore_rb said:
You had me right up until the 5 square mile no-fishing zone...:har:


I must now declare you to be a scuba snob.


Just think how big the fish would be that would venture outside the protected area... Maybe we could get one of those sinking shrimp boats out there as well.. The Fiesta Cruiser would make a great wreck dive you could swim right thru it between the floors.
playaperro
Betcha they'll fix it?
lagrimas85
playaperro said:
Betcha they'll fix it?


When the triple decker Carnival crashed into the shrimp boat last year, they fixed it, but it hasn't gone out since. It was also full of passengers, when it pulled into the marina, the captain couldn't get it out of forward gear and wrecked. There were a few hurt passenger's.
Roberto
It is still there on the beach this morning.
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moore_rb
playaperro said:
Betcha they'll fix it?



I wouldn't take that bet without some pretty juicy odds... you're probably right
Seadweller
playaperro said:
Betcha they'll fix it?


lagrimas85 said:
When the triple decker Carnival crashed into the shrimp boat last year, they fixed it, but it hasn't gone out since. It was also full of passengers, when it pulled into the marina, the captain couldn't get it out of forward gear and wrecked. There were a few hurt passenger's.


Hola Playa... they may be able to fix it... but they'll never be able to fix the reputation that scow has left in its wake...

Hola Tio Bill... yes the Carnival has gone out since it's run in with the shrimp boats... it just hasn't come back... as I recall the same guy that owns the Fiesta Loser was trying to make a go at it with the Carnival, supposedly they did a bunch of repairs and they took it to San Filipe... (not sure how that's working out)
Last edited: Oct 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM
Roberto
I heard a rumor that it was not really a tour boat, but a washing machine, if you get my drift.
mis2810
Roberto said:
I heard a rumor that it was not really a tour boat, but a washing machine, if you get my drift.


Roberto - did you have to use the word "DRIFT"? LMAO!!!
ellibelli1
Thanks SO MUCH for this clear and concise summary of the events. It is so frustrating to just hear rumors and conjecture. Just glad everyone was able to get in safely and there were no serious injuries, except for your friend's heart attack. So sorry for your loss.
Seadweller
Roberto said:
I heard a rumor that it was not really a tour boat, but a washing machine, if you get my drift.


Ahhh yes... that answers a lot of questions and conflicting stories about the sale of that boat...
Roberto
Seadweller said:
Ahhh yes... that answers a lot of questions and conflicting stories about the sale of that boat...


And maybe why it was poorly maintained.
lagrimas85
Seadweller said:
Hola Playa... they may be able to fix it... but they'll never be able to fix the reputation that scow has left in its wake...

Hola Tio Bill... yes the Carnival has gone out since it's run in with the shrimp boats... it just hasn't come back... as I recall the same guy that owns the Fiesta Loser was trying to make a go at it with the Carnival, supposedly they did a bunch of repairs and they took it to San Filipe... (not sure how that's working out)


The Fiesta Loser, has twin engines in it, but I heard a couple years ago, that one went out and was never fixed, if they had fixed the other engine, they would have been able to steer the boat, just like it had steering with a rudder. The big boats inside the harbor always steer with they're engines (its almost impossible to dock them with the steering wheel), but it takes two, otherwise you run in a circle.I was in San Felipe last week, sorry I missed the Carnival Tour.
ellibelli1
I believe that if you look toward the "dry storage"/work area in the marina, you will see that the Carnival is still there, and has not gone to San Felipe.
reportjones
I was sitting on the beach today in front of my Sonoran condo and I saw a huge Carnival cruise ship docked in front of the Las Polamas condo (uncompleted and a real mess) project. Lots of asian people were disembarking to purchase unbuilt condos. Maybe Las Polamas will start building again. Love the white socks and open toe sandal look. Asian people are sure short. Lots of cameras around their necks.
moore_rb
reportjones said:
I was sitting on the beach today in front of my Sonoran condo and I saw a huge Carnival cruise ship docked in front of the Las Polamas condo (uncompleted and a real mess) project. Lots of asian people were disembarking to purchase unbuilt condos. Maybe Las Polamas will start building again. Love the white socks and open toe sandal look. Asian people are sure short. Lots of cameras around their necks.



Ahh yes- a gaze into the crystal ball. It will be interesting to see if it comes to pass-

We were in Vallarta this past month staying just east of the old Marina, and every time a cruise ship docked and the wave of straw hats and Donna Karan sunglasses came rolling up the beach I had to chuckle as I watched the white suited locals all spring into action.
Peñasc0
According to "inside" information, the Capitan was jailed (& also the owner, a gringo, by the way. Not trying to sound/be racist, just noting that it isn't just the "locals" that disregard safety.)
Apparently the usual Capitan never made it in that afternoon, and he decided to take it upon himself to take the boat out.
He was lucky no more people died, and deserves to be punished for his greed.
AZ ROB
http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/51902-1281211945-the-fiesta-cruiser-voted-best-family-vacation-cruise.html
GringoZona
Peñasc0 said:
According to "inside" information, the Capitan was jailed (& also the owner, a gringo, by the way. Not trying to sound/be racist, just noting that it isn't just the "locals" that disregard safety.) Apparently the usual Capitan never made it in that afternoon, and he decided to take it upon himself to take the boat out. He was lucky no more people died, and deserves to be punished for his greed.


Was the port shut down while the boat was stuck on that initial sandbar? The passenger's account earlier stated that it was sitting there for up to an hour. Damn shame everyone wasn't let out at that point.
Dezracer
Glad I never went on the Fiesta Cruiser...sounds like I would have been putting my life in danger with these fools.

On there on website they talk about " highest standards of safety" with "Our flotation devices include a life boat, 4 life floats supporting 22 persons each and 400 life vests"

But earlier in that same page they state "The boat accommodates comfortably 450 people. We have had 609 people including 17 crew on board for one function". Sounds like the Titanic type situation with not enough lifeboats or even life preservers to go around
InkaRoads
Dick, my condolences to you and those close to your friend.
am sure they are going to start checking this cruise ships more often, at least they should!!
GringoZona
Dezracer said:
Glad I never went on the Fiesta Cruiser...sounds like I would have been putting my life in danger with these fools.

On there on website they talk about " highest standards of safety" with "Our flotation devices include a life boat, 4 life floats supporting 22 persons each and 400 life vests"

But earlier in that same page they state "The boat accommodates comfortably 450 people. We have had 609 people including 17 crew on board for one function". Sounds like the Titanic type situation with not enough lifeboats or even life preservers to go around


In a sad bit of irony, toward the bottom of the main website at http://fiestacruiser.com/ there is big red section advertising an insurance company for visitors to Penasco--more general in natural, not specifically for their cruises--stating "The Emergency Services Response Team is at your service." It goes on to mention "We have set up this response team to assist tourists with life threatening or freedom restricting problems. Knowing what Doctor is qualified in the area of expertise needed. Making sure there is no red tape that will hinder fast results. In legal maters the red tape literally compounds by the minute."

The link brings you to this: http://fiestacruiser.com/FC_SPA/emergency_services_response_team.htm
jerry
Watch this site it has a trojan....
AZ ROB said:
reportjones
jerry said:
Watch this site it has a trojan....


Not to worry! I have had a trojan in my wallet for the past 11 years and it didn't break when I finally got to use it this morning. Yes, it was with some Asian that had just got off the Carnival cruise ship and was touring Las Polamas for an unbuilt condo!

How about some time off to help those Asian tourists? Keep it up and you'll get an extended vacation from here to do so.
reportjones
Okay, I lied; it was with Kenny earlier this morning! What do you have to say to that Dry Heave?
moore_rb
Oh boy....:ostrich:


My jedi mind powers tell me this one is about to take a wicked left turn...

Pass the :popcorn:
jerry
Well since someone died in this example of fine Mexican seamanship i think we should delete all comments not about the wreck.....Reporterjones???
Last edited: Oct 29, 2011 at 9:24 AM
reportjones
Sorry Jerry, but I already did! That dude sure has a lot of kinky hair on his back!
cincapi
Being a long-time family/friend of Evelyn, the idea of sinking the boat with a plaque in honor of Evelyn would be a fitting memorial. She was a great lady, wonderful mother, grandmother, great grandmother, a wonderful cook, mentor to all that worked for her as well as a very successful business woman. She will be missed by her family and friends.

Wahoo said:
Tortuga, so sorry about your friend.
I shudder to think the fear of the unknown in the dark for a 70-80 year youngster.

This ship saw its last days as a fishing boat and now has seen its last days as a tourist boat. I do hope the owners also let it rest in peace and let it become a reef and spawn new life.

This new reef created with a large plaque in place as honor of Evelyn.
Mexico Joe
reportjones said:
Not to worry! I have had a trojan in my wallet for the past 11 years and it didn't break when I finally got to use it this morning. Yes, it was with some Asian that had just got off the Carnival cruise ship and was touring Las Polamas for an unbuilt condo!



Wow
Mexico Joe
reportjones said:
Okay, I lied; it was with Kenny earlier this morning! What do you have to say to that Dry Heave?


and wow
lagrimas85
reportjones said:
Not to worry! I have had a trojan in my wallet for the past 11 years and it didn't break when I finally got to use it this morning. Yes, it was with some Asian that had just got off the Carnival cruise ship and was touring Las Polamas for an unbuilt condo!


You weren't worried about it tearing on your braces?
reportjones
I will be away for a while helping those asian tourists!

reportjones said:
Not to worry! I have had a trojan in my wallet for the past 11 years and it didn't break when I finally got to use it this morning. Yes, it was with some Asian that had just got off the Carnival cruise ship and was touring Las Polamas for an unbuilt condo!

How about some time off to help those Asian tourists? Keep it up and you'll get an extended vacation from here to do so.
Seadweller
Have you seen CNN's iReport Headlines and article about this accident? post by "EvilTim" (please note that this article has not been Vetted by CNN)



click on Headline to read article
Dinner cruise ship sinks in Mexico, 1 dead many injured.
GringoZona
Nice cut-and-pasting job, "Evil Tim." What a d-bag.
yola
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Last edited: Oct 29, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Seadweller
Last edited by yola; Today at 12:22 PM. Reason: Taken today,boat being dismantled as it sits. lady that died of heart attack was 80 yrs old


Well if they are dismantling the Fiesta where it sits that would kind of rule out any chances of using it to form a natural reef... I wonder how big of a mess this will leave as they dismantle this wreck on the beach..?
Last edited: Oct 29, 2011 at 5:11 PM
cincapi
Dick, I would like to ask you further questions about Evelyn's death. I am a family friend of Evelyn and her children, could you please email me at [email protected]. Thank you for your time and information regarding the accident.

Daisy
AZ ROB
Are they dismanteling it or just draining out the fluids and taking out the engines? Need you to get on this Seadweller you are our scuba diver in the south. lol
Seadweller
AZ ROB said:
Are they dismanteling it or just draining out the fluids and taking out the engines? Need you to get on this Seadweller you are our scuba diver in the south. lol


OK... I'll sea what I can find out from some of my local buddies...
rockyptjoe
AZ ROB said:
Are they dismanteling it or just draining out the fluids and taking out the engines? Need you to get on this Seadweller you are our scuba diver in the south. lol


Give it a couple weeks....and the wreck will look like a broken down vehicle on the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York City......just a hulk up on blocks....stripped of everything!:stir:
AZ ROB
Maybe we can have a benefit for the Fiesta Cruiser/Evelyn Artificial Reef Project.... I can't help but think it would make an awesome dive spot with all the large holes you could swim thru very little chance of getting lost inside and the divers in Az and south west would enjoy it and the fish would love it.
reportjones
I dont want the boat to move. I am coming down this weekend and refurbishing it to look like a condo. I am going to have Seaside rent the condo. Be a sure way to make my investment disappear. Maybe the boat will disappear also. Then no one will have to worry about it anymore. It will be like it was never there.
jerry
Dude, I love you (in a manly way) but quit making a joke out of this.A lady died and her family and friends read this.
reportjones said:
I dont want the boat to move. I am coming down this weekend and refurbishing it to look like a condo. I am going to have Seaside rent the condo. Be a sure way to make my investment disappear. Maybe the boat will disappear also. Then no one will have to worry about it anymore. It will be like it was never there.