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Immigration Office in Penasco at new location

Started by Roberto · Jul 5, 2011 · 22 replies
Roberto
Formerly on Benito Juarez the Immigration office is now on Fremont Blvd in the Plaza across from Banorte. No sign on the window on Benito Juarez of course.
mexicoruss
Is that in the same Plaza as BanComer? If so it will prove to be very convenient and thanks for the heads up Roberto.
Jim
It is very convenient now. I just went to renew my FM-2. Yes, It's in the old One Stop Medical suite in the same plaza as Bancomer.
El Gato
Is it fairly easy to renew your FM-2 buy yourself? What is required? Thank you.

Jim said:
It is very convenient now. I just went to renew my FM-2. Yes, It's in the old One Stop Medical suite in the same plaza as Bancomer.
Jim
Laura, our office manager here at the Sonorans, did mine. She could answer your questions better than me. I've always had someone do mine for me. For the $ it just wasn't worth the time and frustration to do it myself.
Roberto
El Gato said:
Is it fairly easy to renew your FM-2 buy yourself? What is required? Thank you.


If you are fluent in Spanish and very patient you can do it. Just expect several visits.
PitiquitoRosy
I'm very fluent in Spanish but prior to obtaining my Mexican citizenship I always paid to have someone else handle it. Just easier.
El Gato
Will do the same - just didn't know if it had been made a lot easier for renewals.
mexicoruss
Nothing is that easy and sometimes its a moving target, have someone help you its always better....Thanks Rosie!
InkaRoads
El Gato said:
Is it fairly easy to renew your FM-2 buy yourself? What is required? Thank you.


If any body needs a FM visa let me know I will do it for you for $100 dollars plus all the necesary paperwork, that is how easy it is, however I am bilingual and that is what actually makes it easy!!
Kramer
Ok I know that I have been paying anywhere from $380 to $500 for my FM3 over the past 7 years How much does the FM3 really cost? ( factoring out the necessary charge for the person)
PitiquitoRosy
InkaRoads said:
If any body needs a FM visa let me know I will do it for you for $100 dollars plus all the necesary paperwork, that is how easy it is, however I am bilingual and that is what actually makes it easy!!


Hey Ed, are you expanding on your tour business? I live in RP, contribute to the community, employ locals and pay taxes for my business here. We charge the same amount to handle FM3s, but don't do it "under the table". Being bilingual is just one part of it, Dude. I don't mind fair competition at all, but let's keep it legal.
El Gato
I found the following and it looks like if one is retired here - receiving Social Security - living full time - that under the new "point" system one could qualify for “Residente Permanente“ immediately. How is anyone else reading it? Rosy, in particuar :) - Would love it if we just had to apply once more. Does anyone have any idea what the fees will be for applying for either Permanent or temp. residente visas?

"A lot of us are wondering about the point system, but don't need to worry about it because of Article 54 which is quoted below and then my translation into English follows:

>>>>>
Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos:
I. Por razones de asilo político, reconocimiento de la condición de refugiado y protección complementaria o por la determinación de apátrida, previo cumplimiento de los requisitos establecidos en esta Ley, su Reglamento y demás disposiciones jurídicas aplicables;
II. Por el derecho a la preservación de la unidad familiar en los supuestos del artículo 55 de esta Ley;

III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el paí<<<<<<<<<<<<
Article 54: The permanent resident status will be given to WHICHEVER of the the following apply:
I. For political asylum
II. To preserve family unity as noted in article 55 of this law.
III. TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE A PENSION FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANISM OR A PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR SERVICES RENDERED WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO PERMIT THEM TO LIVE IN MEXICO.
I qualify under condition III as do many of us here in México. In fact it would seem that many here who might be able to qualify for the old FM3 should be able to qualify
under condition III.
Am I reading this new law incorrectly? "
InkaRoads
PitiquitoRosy said:
Hey Ed, are you expanding on your tour business? I live in RP, contribute to the community, employ locals and pay taxes for my business here. We charge the same amount to handle FM3s, but don't do it "under the table". Being bilingual is just one part of it, Dude. I don't mind fair competition at all, but let's keep it legal.

Do not worry Rosie, I am not expanding my business and nobody from here will call me to do it anyway, plus if someone does I will send them your way for a referral fee, how about an ice cold Tecate sounds to you?

PS: all business transactions that I do are above the table and very legal in both USA and Mexico
Last edited: Jul 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM
InkaRoads
El Gato said:
Am I reading this new law incorrectly? "

Although I am not a notario I read it just as you translated however I am sure they will need some type of written proof as a bank statement or government ssa letter, as things are going better get that letter from ssa asap before they go down!!
dry heat
Rosie,

you only charge $100 for FM3 renewal?
that is great and you should definately take business away from the other FM3 renewal services in Penasco.
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PitiquitoRosy
dry heat said:
Rosie,

you only charge $100 for FM3 renewal?
that is great and you should definately take business away from the other FM3 renewal services in Penasco.


I think that's what most people charge. Understand that doesn't include the immigration fees charged or fines. That amount varies based on whether this is your first time or a renewal and whether you have earnings in Mexico.

Anyone with questions about the new regulations, drop me a line and I'll try to answer them...and Ed, you're on for that Tecate!
PitiquitoRosy
El Gato said:
I found the following and it looks like if one is retired here - receiving Social Security - living full time - that under the new "point" system one could qualify for “Residente Permanente“ immediately. How is anyone else reading it? Rosy, in particuar :) - Would love it if we just had to apply once more. Does anyone have any idea what the fees will be for applying for either Permanent or temp. residente visas?

"A lot of us are wondering about the point system, but don't need to worry about it because of Article 54 which is quoted below and then my translation into English follows:

>>>>>
Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos:
I. Por razones de asilo político, reconocimiento de la condición de refugiado y protección complementaria o por la determinación de apátrida, previo cumplimiento de los requisitos establecidos en esta Ley, su Reglamento y demás disposiciones jurídicas aplicables;
II. Por el derecho a la preservación de la unidad familiar en los supuestos del artículo 55 de esta Ley;

III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el paí<<<<<<<<<<<<
Article 54: The permanent resident status will be given to WHICHEVER of the the following apply:
I. For political asylum
II. To preserve family unity as noted in article 55 of this law.
III. TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE A PENSION FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANISM OR A PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR SERVICES RENDERED WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO PERMIT THEM TO LIVE IN MEXICO.
I qualify under condition III as do many of us here in México. In fact it would seem that many here who might be able to qualify for the old FM3 should be able to qualify
under condition III.
Am I reading this new law incorrectly? "


Hi Gato, my interpretation is the same as yours, but let me get a definitive (or close to it) answer for you tomorrow.
PitiquitoRosy
Kramer said:
Ok I know that I have been paying anywhere from $380 to $500 for my FM3 over the past 7 years How much does the FM3 really cost? ( factoring out the necessary charge for the person)


The charges vary. First time applicants pay an extra fee. The cost for those who earn money here is different than for those who don't. The average should cost you about $331 right now. I can't imagine how you ever had to pay $500, though.
PitiquitoRosy
Answer to Gato's Question:

El Gato said:
I found the following and it looks like if one is retired here - receiving Social Security - living full time - that under the new "point" system one could qualify for “Residente Permanente“ immediately. How is anyone else reading it? Rosy, in particuar :) - Would love it if we just had to apply once more. Does anyone have any idea what the fees will be for applying for either Permanent or temp. residente visas?

"A lot of us are wondering about the point system, but don't need to worry about it because of Article 54 which is quoted below and then my translation into English follows:

>>>>>
Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos:
I. Por razones de asilo político, reconocimiento de la condición de refugiado y protección complementaria o por la determinación de apátrida, previo cumplimiento de los requisitos establecidos en esta Ley, su Reglamento y demás disposiciones jurídicas aplicables;
II. Por el derecho a la preservación de la unidad familiar en los supuestos del artículo 55 de esta Ley;

III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el paí<<<<<<<<<<<<
Article 54: The permanent resident status will be given to WHICHEVER of the the following apply:
I. For political asylum
II. To preserve family unity as noted in article 55 of this law.
III. TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE A PENSION FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANISM OR A PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR SERVICES RENDERED WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO PERMIT THEM TO LIVE IN MEXICO.
I qualify under condition III as do many of us here in México. In fact it would seem that many here who might be able to qualify for the old FM3 should be able to qualify
under condition III.
Am I reading this new law incorrectly? "


We met with Lic. Alan Cano the Chief of Migracion in Penasco and his first comment was about how impressed he is with you, Gato, for finding this information and providing it here in both languages.

He explained that we're still a few months away from the new rules being completely implemented, so some of the fees and conditions will be determined along the way. He also said that everything is subject to change.

You were right, retirees who live here permanently will qualify for FM2 status. Living here permanently means not being out of Mexico for more than 2 months at a time. It is important not to confuse the term "Permanent Resident" with what they call "Definitive Resident" or Immigrado status, which is the one just before Mexican citizenship.

I know this answer will bring more questions out of the woodwork ('cause I knows my peeps), so please post them and we'll get more answers for you. Hope this helps.
Roberto
Ok:

Probably premature to ask but,
How does one demonstrate they live here permanently? In the past I seem to recall you had to provide utility bills for a 2 year period, every one, none missing.

I'd love to get the skinny when the dust settles. Thanks.
PitiquitoRosy
Roberto said:
Ok:

Probably premature to ask but,
How does one demonstrate they live here permanently? In the past I seem to recall you had to provide utility bills for a 2 year period, every one, none missing.

I'd love to get the skinny when the dust settles. Thanks.


We'll stay on this and get the answers. I'm reminded of a time when I still used an FM3, that Migracion actually went to my house to look for me. Of course I always suspected that visit was related to my lawsuit. It was later confirmed by that same person, after he had been transferred out of the area. Not that he was there to check whether I lived here or not, but it does tell me that they're ready to make house calls if needed.