Here We Go Again Six More Found!
Started by playaperro · Mar 20, 2011 · 30 replies
How many more are there to kill?
There was a particularly disturbing article in the AZ Republic yesterday about drug violence deaths. It focused around a four year old girl who had been shot and killed with her mother. Basic gist of the article was that number of innocent children being gunned down is skyrocketing, over a 1000. Time was, even if the sicarios targeted you, they shot just you and left the children alone. Now, the game has changed. They are shooting the children as well. Very, very sad.
Read it here.
Read it here.
The first one legged fisherman that goes down is time for you to worry until then enjoy your fun hobby and Mexico.
Stuart said:There was a particularly disturbing article in the AZ Republic yesterday about drug violence deaths. It focused around a four year old girl who had been shot and killed with her mother. Basic gist of the article was that number of innocent children being gunned down is skyrocketing, over a 1000. Time was, even if the sicarios targeted you, they shot just you and left the children alone. Now, the game has changed. They are shooting the children as well. Very, very sad.
Read it here.
Yanno, you probably wouldn't be anywhere near the smug :moon: you are Jerry if it were one of your children.
I will continue to enjoy Mexico; Lobos this coming weekend. I'm not trying to instill panic or "anti-Mexico" sentiment in anybody. But, when I read things like that article, it made me realize just how much the game has changed in the drug war violence. Killing kids was never part of the game before. It is now.
I will continue to enjoy Mexico; Lobos this coming weekend. I'm not trying to instill panic or "anti-Mexico" sentiment in anybody. But, when I read things like that article, it made me realize just how much the game has changed in the drug war violence. Killing kids was never part of the game before. It is now.
Name calling again...time to put yourself in the penalty box? If we legalized drugs,focused our outsourcing incentives toward Mexico rather than China it would be a better hemisphere! Lobos is full of narcos..they dont give a crap about you or me.
Stuart said:Yanno, you probably wouldn't be anywhere near the smug :moon: you are Jerry if it were one of your children.
I will continue to enjoy Mexico; Lobos this coming weekend. I'm not trying to instill panic or "anti-Mexico" sentiment in anybody. But, when I read things like that article, it made me realize just how much the game has changed in the drug war violence. Killing kids was never part of the game before. It is now.
jerry said:Name calling again...time to put yourself in the penalty box? If we legalized drugs,focused our outsourcing incentives toward Mexico rather than China it would be a better hemisphere! Lobos is full of narcos..they dont give a crap about you or me.
Uh-huh. You can legalize all the drugs you want in Baja, Arizona. Welcome the cartels and their violence with big, open arms and a rousing rendition of kum-bah-yaa, okay?
Its getting to hairy for me, Im worried about a stray bullet hitting one of my family. I think we are going to Cali. this time or the rim.
I would go down by myself but what fun would that be.:sad:
I would go down by myself but what fun would that be.:sad:
Don't listen to the drama KIngs....It is perfectly safe for you and your families...unless you are part of the Beltran leya Family
azfish said:Its getting to hairy for me, Im worried about a stray bullet hitting one of my family. I think we are going to Cali. this time or the rim.
I would go down by myself but what fun would that be.:sad:
Self edit once again..............eh Rosie?
Hey Russ, not to be disrespectfull but it looks like you might be need some toilet paper in your avatar pic, I think it is the far away effect and the leaning position against the tree!!
mexicoruss said:Self edit once again..............eh Rosie?
You're doin' good, Russ!
InkaRoads said:Hey Russ, not to be disrespectfull but it looks like you might be need some toilet paper in your avatar pic, I think it is the far away effect and the leaning position against the tree!!
Inka whats the best price on lomotil?
playaperro said:Inka whats the best price on lomotil?
I am not sure but for certain LOP is on sale for the rest of the month!!
Go to Cali. at this point youll just have more fun since its so dead down here anyway. How much fun is it to be on a beach all by yourself.
gyarbs said:Go to Cali. at this point youll just have more fun since its so dead down here anyway. How much fun is it to be on a beach all by yourself.
Our beach is far superior to what can be found anywhere in California and you know it. Also, if you've been here you know it isn't dead. The restaurants are hopping even though Spring Break is over. This year overall is, so far, going better than 2010 and we're just now moving into one of our two busy seasons. I ran into (not literally) the Head Out to Rocky Point vans yesterday at the Tequila Factory. All three of them were full of people having a great time. Had dinner at Latitude 31 with my son and the place was full. If you're alone gyarbs, maybe it's you.
CA = cold water, sewage in water every time it rains, high prices, crazy Californians, traffic...takes twice as long to get there...anyone want to add more????
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I used to go to Ca. every month for at least 1 weekend. 1yr ago I came to R.P. for the first time ever. liked it so much I decided to look into purchasing a place. After all was said and done and the money figured out I know own a place (cheaper now thanks to the people who bought condo's hoping to get rich on rentals) and the monthly cost is lower than I would spend in San Diego for 1 weekend and now I can go to the beach when ever I want to. Plus I use 1/2 the gas to get here and 1/2 the time. There are problems everywhere in the world as long as you don't loose your wits you will be fine where ever you go.
I have lived in California all my life and it has some of the best beaches in the world. The beaches are clean. They are crowded but that's because a lot of people want to enjoy them. Diving the kelp beds on the channel islands are cold but incredible, visability is better that Rocky Point. I can't afford a place at the beach in California. Don't get me wrong I love Rocky Point but for different reason. I enjoy the quiet, relaxed environment of Cholla Bay, the sunsets, the stars at night. I built a set of condos 75 yards from the shore for less that 250K and and in return I get 3,500 a month rent for life. As I see it I have the best of both places.
Rick
Cholla Bay
Rick
Cholla Bay
Pintopoint.....why is it that everytime it rains heavily.....you get reports of the beaches being closed because of the runoff from the LA River?????
Rockyptjoe,
Normally that is when something happen with the sewer treatment plant. The same conditions would not be reported and the beaches would not be closed in Rocky Point. This happens very rarely and at least the notify you. I would not swim in the any of the ports in California or Rocky Point. Just think about it all the houses in Cholla Bay are on septic tank, where do you think they leach to?
Rick,
Cholla Bay
Normally that is when something happen with the sewer treatment plant. The same conditions would not be reported and the beaches would not be closed in Rocky Point. This happens very rarely and at least the notify you. I would not swim in the any of the ports in California or Rocky Point. Just think about it all the houses in Cholla Bay are on septic tank, where do you think they leach to?
Rick,
Cholla Bay
PintoPoint said:Rockyptjoe,
Normally that is when something happen with the sewer treatment plant. The same conditions would not be reported and the beaches would not be closed in Rocky Point. This happens very rarely and at least the notify you. I would not swim in the any of the ports in California or Rocky Point. Just think about it all the houses in Cholla Bay are on septic tank, where do you think they leach to?
Rick,
Cholla Bay
There is no question that the quality of the water and the clarity have changed drastically since I was a kid, and for a number of reasons.
rockyptjoe said:Pintopoint.....why is it that everytime it rains heavily.....you get reports of the beaches being closed because of the runoff from the LA River?????
As you know Joe I love the Sea of Cortez, but having spent more than a few years surfing and diving off the coast of Southern Cali, and some of Ricks comments are right on. I had a "lay around" beach called Crescent bay in north Laguna, and for all practical purposes it's still the same. I'll bet a dime Rick knows both Crescent and Emerald bay's. http://www.lagunapages.com/beach/crescent/crescent.asp
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Pintopoint and Kenny....I don't doubt that there are many great beaches and coves in CA......with perfectly clear and safe water.....but when I think of the "masses" that go to the CA beach....LA area and San Deigo...you have to admit that they leave something to desire.... As for Cholla Bay and the harbor (Penasco)....the tide does clear out the little pollution that is there......I've launched my jetskis(and swum) in both....with no ill effects...and there are so few shrimp boats in harbor nowadays....even their pollution is not as severe....
Kenny,
I will be fishing off Emerald Cove tomorrow. As far as I am concerned the more people that think California Beaches aren't worth coming to the better. I like Cholla Bay with less people. I like to camp on San Miguel island, part of the Channel Islands. No more than 125 people camp there each year. It's beaches are incredible. With all the reserves that California has put aside the population of fish is growing.
Rick
Cholla Bay
I will be fishing off Emerald Cove tomorrow. As far as I am concerned the more people that think California Beaches aren't worth coming to the better. I like Cholla Bay with less people. I like to camp on San Miguel island, part of the Channel Islands. No more than 125 people camp there each year. It's beaches are incredible. With all the reserves that California has put aside the population of fish is growing.
Rick
Cholla Bay
Fished both coves often, and a Hawaiian sling worked well around the rocks for bass, and on the sand flats for Halibut. Some great times in that area, and the women of Crescent bay were a good catch as well. We used to high dive off "shit rock" even though it's a national game reserve and off limits; that is until the coast guard or a life guards would kick us off. Have you ever dove around the Coronado Islands Rick? They used to have HUGE non clawed Lobster there.
It's true Joe, there are areas around Long Beach, and other beaches north, that can foam way more than they should, but the big Bonita off the breakwater in Long Beach where the "river" comes in were a blast to catch with light gear. The biggest problem there were the wharf rats who would fight you over your catch. OK, maybe not fight, but they way they would come out of the rocks and look at you with those big beady eye's was like pointing a gun at ya. LOL
It's true Joe, there are areas around Long Beach, and other beaches north, that can foam way more than they should, but the big Bonita off the breakwater in Long Beach where the "river" comes in were a blast to catch with light gear. The biggest problem there were the wharf rats who would fight you over your catch. OK, maybe not fight, but they way they would come out of the rocks and look at you with those big beady eye's was like pointing a gun at ya. LOL
cali shore
I have a Niece that works for the govt. in Washington and does the fed. report for the coast. She told me the only reason they don't close the beaches is that there is some clause that they didn't have to report or they would have been closed . If you look at the people that take kids to San Diego , there are more ear infections there, than anywhere else. She alaso dives with the Cousteau as a lawyer for them., doing the research on the coastal shores. How far out is the sewage line now ? 3, 4 or 5 miles. Also how much do we treat from the south so we can still swim in San Diego?
I have a Niece that works for the govt. in Washington and does the fed. report for the coast. She told me the only reason they don't close the beaches is that there is some clause that they didn't have to report or they would have been closed . If you look at the people that take kids to San Diego , there are more ear infections there, than anywhere else. She alaso dives with the Cousteau as a lawyer for them., doing the research on the coastal shores. How far out is the sewage line now ? 3, 4 or 5 miles. Also how much do we treat from the south so we can still swim in San Diego?
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Kenny,
I have not done any diving at the Coronado Islands. I normally dive north of there. We catch lots of lobsters and divers scallops on the channel islands. We used to dive the oil rigs in the channel, they are incredible, tons of scallops. Boat is all finished and can't wait to bring to Penasco. My trips have just been too short to haul it all that way. Boy has this thread got off topic!
Rick
Cholla Bay
I have not done any diving at the Coronado Islands. I normally dive north of there. We catch lots of lobsters and divers scallops on the channel islands. We used to dive the oil rigs in the channel, they are incredible, tons of scallops. Boat is all finished and can't wait to bring to Penasco. My trips have just been too short to haul it all that way. Boy has this thread got off topic!
Rick
Cholla Bay
No se como es ahora pero en 1984 cuando quize ingresar en UCLA, vivi en Santa Monica, por 7 meses, he iva a la playa todos los dias y muchas veces las playas de Santa Monica y Venice estaban cerradas, especialmente durante los Miercoles y Jueves por que estaban evacuando las plantas de tratamiento de agua que desenvocaban en el area de Malibu y Palisades? no importa, el caso es que si lo hacian en aquel entonces nada ha cambiado, todavia lo hacen y a lo mejor mas hoy en dia.
Las playas del Oceano Pacifico son las mejores playas del mundo, si hablamos de olas pero cuando hablamos de fauna y flora, el Mar de Cortez, como Jaque? decia, es el acuario del mundo y aunque mucha vida de el a muerto, debido a los metodos de pesca anticuados que hasta hoy se ustilizan, se esta regenerando y la paz y tranquilidad que se encuentran y lo que es mejor la hospitalidad y amistad que los locales del lugar ofrecen no lo van a encontrar en ningun lugar de Cali.
Las playas del Oceano Pacifico son las mejores playas del mundo, si hablamos de olas pero cuando hablamos de fauna y flora, el Mar de Cortez, como Jaque? decia, es el acuario del mundo y aunque mucha vida de el a muerto, debido a los metodos de pesca anticuados que hasta hoy se ustilizan, se esta regenerando y la paz y tranquilidad que se encuentran y lo que es mejor la hospitalidad y amistad que los locales del lugar ofrecen no lo van a encontrar en ningun lugar de Cali.
Never said that the Cali beach's were better, just that Rick had valid points, and you can't throw a blanket statement like Joe did about the beach's there.
Wahoo said:... thar was i nice pic
That beach is almost the same today as it was 40+ years ago, unlike some of the other beaches north of there where I surfed and fished back in the day. There is a large colony of Sea Lions on and around the large rocks in the background, much like our bird Island. This picture was also taken there.
