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Guess She's Too Busy For Us!

Started by Stuart · Mar 9, 2011 · 39 replies
Stuart
Plodding my way through traffic this morning up the 51, I hear none other than Ms. Rosie Glover on the news station KFYI prognosticating on what a good Spring Break Penasco will have this year. No mention of the recent shooting (of course), but basically that the weather is looking fantastic and a good crowd is expected. You go, girl! :wink:
AZ ROB
Still see advertisements for Safeway down in Tucson...People are still shopping at Chandler Fashion square ...Maybe they should put a billboard up in front of every bank that has ever been robbed or every Circle K that has had a beer run....Oh wait that was a person shot at a 7-11 this morning. The violence is everywhere. Per capita Mexico is still safer than the U.S.
lagrimas85
I wish somebody in Penasco could convince the the new owners to please train some snipers and quit spraying the streets.
GringoZona
Is the Malecon freaking PAVED yet or what?!?!? Why can't I get a straight answer on this?
lagrimas85
10 days ago it wasn't.
Roberto
GringoZona said:
Is the Malecon freaking PAVED yet or what?!?!? Why can't I get a straight answer on this?


Two days ago it was not.
Stuart
AZ ROB said:
Still see advertisements...


It wasn't an advertisement; although it might as well have been. It was during an actual news broadcast. Kind of left me scratching my head, actually. Here's why: There has not been a single mention of the shooting at the car show in the US media that I've seen or heard anywhere. It's like the media is deliberately not reporting it. However, the media is reporting how a great turnout is expected for Rocky Point. Also saw our good friend Steve Schwab very recently reporting a similar message on the evening news. This is SO unlike the typical "Mexico is unsafe" message the US media constantly puts out in print, over the airwaves, etc., in fact, it's the opposite for a change!

Bill - you crack me up!! The reason they use machine guns is that at least they stand a chance of hitting SOMETHING that way! Hahaha!!

I'm not trying to be "doom and gloom" here at all. I hope it's the biggest Spring Break in years! The town truly needs it! I'm also hoping that the idiots with the AK-47s conduct their business OUTSIDE of town while Spring Break is going on. A repeat of the car show shooting during Spring Break will be waaaaay more than a PR disaster, it will be a death knell.
lagrimas85
Thats, probably true 50 to 100 rounds at close range at the police chief and only hit 6 times, thats pretty bad.
azfish
LAG brought up a good point get snipers to take out the bad guys then know one would know who they are so their families would not have to fear about retaliation.
rockyptjoe
GringoZona said:
Is the Malecon freaking PAVED yet or what?!?!? Why can't I get a straight answer on this?


The word this past weekend was that the mayor promised that the street would be finished within 3 weeks (just in time for Semana Santa)....but obviously not for spring break. It was still closed off, and they had not finished the curbs (that's been taking 2 weeks now)!!!
rockyptjoe
Stuart said:
It wasn't an advertisement; although it might as well have been. It was during an actual news broadcast. Kind of left me scratching my head, actually. Here's why: There has not been a single mention of the shooting at the car show in the US media that I've seen or heard anywhere. It's like the media is deliberately not reporting it. However, the media is reporting how a great turnout is expected for Rocky Point. Also saw our good friend Steve Schwab very recently reporting a similar message on the evening news. This is SO unlike the typical "Mexico is unsafe" message the US media constantly puts out in print, over the airwaves, etc., in fact, it's the opposite for a change!

Bill - you crack me up!! The reason they use machine guns is that at least they stand a chance of hitting SOMETHING that way! Hahaha!!

I'm not trying to be "doom and gloom" here at all. I hope it's the biggest Spring Break in years! The town truly needs it! I'm also hoping that the idiots with the AK-47s conduct their business OUTSIDE of town while Spring Break is going on. A repeat of the car show shooting during Spring Break will be waaaaay more than a PR disaster, it will be a death knell.


I thought the car show went on in the Playa Bonita overflow rv park across the street....the cars that were shot up were at the corner of Calle 13 on the way to Balboas/marina/navy base.

Although it is weird that there has not been anything in the Phoenix news.........
GringoZona
rockyptjoe said:
The word this past weekend was that the mayor promised that the street would be finished within 3 weeks (just in time for Semana Santa)....but obviously not for spring break. It was still closed off, and they had not finished the curbs (that's been taking 2 weeks now)!!!


OK, so the Malecon is closed off for Spring Break week? This is ridiculous.
rockyptjoe
GringoZona said:
OK, so the Malecon is closed off for Spring Break week? This is ridiculous.


It's worth checking out when you hit town, in case they do open the street......it is available to foot traffic.

You should talk to the vendors....you'll get some interesting comments on what they think of the whole affair!!!!
GringoZona
I wanted to hit up Vina del Mar when I roll into town on Sunday. I know it's a one-way (going the opposite way) for the majority of that path...Is there a way to park anywhere near there? A walk through the Malecon is fun, but damn, that's quite a hike!
rockyptjoe
You can still get in to Vina Del Mar.....take the street that runs by the Thrifty Ice Cream....it's 2 way all the way to the hotel.

Check out this map link...
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=puerto+penasco,+mexico&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Puerto+Pe%C3%B1asco,+Sonora,+Mexico&gl=us&ll=31.303058,-113.549141&spn=0.005711,0.01134&z=17 If you turn left at the return street (from Friendly Dolphin)..and go up Ignacio Zaragoza...on to 10 de Julio....that will take you past the church/Thrifty Ice Cream all the way to Vina Del Mar.
mexicoruss
Stuart said:
It wasn't an advertisement; although it might as well have been. It was during an actual news broadcast. Kind of left me scratching my head, actually. Here's why: There has not been a single mention of the shooting at the car show in the US media that I've seen or heard anywhere. It's like the media is deliberately not reporting it. However, the media is reporting how a great turnout is expected for Rocky Point. Also saw our good friend Steve Schwab very recently reporting a similar message on the evening news. This is SO unlike the typical "Mexico is unsafe" message the US media constantly puts out in print, over the airwaves, etc., in fact, it's the opposite for a change!

Bill - you crack me up!! The reason they use machine guns is that at least they stand a chance of hitting SOMETHING that way! Hahaha!!

I'm not trying to be "doom and gloom" here at all. I hope it's the biggest Spring Break in years! The town truly needs it! I'm also hoping that the idiots with the AK-47s conduct their business OUTSIDE of town while Spring Break is going on. A repeat of the car show shooting during Spring Break will be waaaaay more than a PR disaster, it will be a death knell.


Might be time to back up just a bit ese' imho There is no reason for the US media to explore Penascos problem anymore than the Mexican media probing everything that happens in Phoenix or Tucson. Rosie is doing a good job under tough circumstances so just back off por favor. Dont try to start something when there is nothing to fuel it. It sounds like you are hoping for a disaster instead of a solution.........easy out - no? Go ahead and delete my if you dont like it thats ok!
cholla
I heard that on the radio this morning as well. First thing I thought was, Good job Rosie for getting a positive preemptive strike in, on the negative publicity that is sure to come up any day now about spring break.
Stuart
Even when I say something POSITIVE you take as a neg, Russ??? Hey, I miss Rosie posting on here... that's the only neg to the whole thing!!
mexicoruss
Then simply say that you miss her contribution but please dont imply that she is not up to the job or that she has an agenda. She will get mad for me posting this but I stand up for her because of the hard job she has. Reality versus perception and all the things that go between is a hard place to navigate.

On a earlier comment in this thread the Tucson shooting came up, Giffords was an innocent victim (by all accounts that I have heard) the other 5 were as innocent as well. I think it is safe to say this guy who got it in Penasco was not so....
Perception tells you its ok to go to Tucson even though a MASS murder took place there, that same perception tells you its not ok to come to Penasco cause a bad guy got killed////same perception, different reality. There are two side to this and every story out there and if you tell one you have to tell both, sometimes its better to say nada nada enchilada
rockyptjoe
Just a comment on not seeing anything in the Phoenix news media on the shooting....almost a week later. Does anyone believe that they are not aware of the situation.....regardless of how incompetent the Republic or some of the news stations are? I don't usually espouse most "conspiracy" theories....but is it just possible that the media is waiting for the last possible moment to break the news...so that there is no possible response.....and the result being the killing of spring break and what little remains of the local economy????
Jim
I just came from the Malecon. They are pouring concrete as we speak. 1/2 the road going in first. I saw the mayor walking through too. He doesn't seem too worried about his safety. He had a couple suits walking with him but I walked right up and said Hi.
Cabo
... i think Rocky Point is becoming a non issue as a tourist destination. The shootings are between Mexicans and not tourists. How many dead bodies have been reported found and not a word in the US press. It is locals or cartel members fighting for turf and not a tourist matter.

How many US tourists where lining the streets watching these parades? This is a local matter and as such stays a local story. If ever a Condo owner or Condo visitor get killed that is when all #ell will break lose.
Kenny
rockyptjoe said:
Just a comment on not seeing anything in the Phoenix news media on the shooting....almost a week later. Does anyone believe that they are not aware of the situation.....regardless of how incompetent the Republic or some of the news stations are? I don't usually espouse most "conspiracy" theories....but is it just possible that the media is waiting for the last possible moment to break the news...
so that there is no possible response
.....and the result being the killing of spring break and what little remains of the local economy????

And just what kind of response can there be that would make a difference Joe? The same old comparisons of violence between Tucson/Phoenix, and PP? That it's just some locals fighting over turf, drug money, etc? Most people have made up their minds about the situation already, and a last minute story is not going to change the minds of rational thinking people. Now some on this forum might not think I'm a rational thinking person, but I just renewed my yearly insurance with Rosie this week, and I should be coming down Sunday.... Unless Russ talks me out of it!
jerry
I don't know kenny ...You do drive a Jeep....they seem to be favored by the cartel
PitiquitoRosy
Stuart and gang,

I miss you guys too. I'm too busy for you like I'm sometimes too busy to sleep enough or eat on time, but that doesn't diminish how important this forum is to me and how much I love (most of) you guys, so don't go giving up my seat at the dinner table, Stuart. The time right before Spring Break is traditionally extra-busy for me. This year even more so because I'd had so many setbacks in recent months (personal upheavals, illness, RPNO problems, etc.) I'm happy to report that I'm feeling better and things are reaching a more normal balance, but it's left me trying to catch up with all I need to do.

Now, about that interview. A guy calls me up and asks me how I see Spring Break this year and I tell him. That's it. Online insurance sales are brisk with short-term policies, so I know that at least some kids are coming down. Either there will be more of them than last year, or more of them are buying their insurance from me.

Yesterday a hoax email made the rounds here saying that the Consulate had warned students not to come to RP. The email didn't seem authentic to me so I contacted the Consulate and found out that it was a hoax. Your guess is as good as mine as to why the mess on Calle 13 didn't make the U.S. news.

FoxNews did try to throw dirt on RP by taking an interview I gave to KOLD and clipping it to suit their needs. Other than that, the negativity has been noticeably absent.
Mexico Joe
Can anyone tell me why in the world you would wait so long and right up until Spring Break to finish the Malecon?! Basically pissing away any of what little business there is by not having the Malecon all finished looking good with a fresh look and new paved street with vendors having everything set up. Thats ridiculous, I mean good god do these people understand anything?! It will be done and looking good for Semana Santa Im sure for all those Mexicans with deep wallets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NOT SPRING BREAK, some ASU kid looking to burn a hole in his or her pocket cant even do so because the malecon is under construction..... hhhhmmmmmm yea that sounds like a good idea, trading up american money for pesos! Good business model....
Stuart
PitiquitoRosy said:
Stuart and gang,

I miss you guys too.


There's the Rosy we know and love!!!! Yanno, when we don't hear from ya for awhile, we start to worry! Glad to hear sales are brisk. Penasco deserves a POSITIVE break for a change! :razz:
PitiquitoRosy
Mexico Joe said:
Can anyone tell me why in the world you would wait so long and right up until Spring Break to finish the Malecon?! Basically pissing away any of what little business there is by not having the Malecon all finished looking good with a fresh look and new paved street with vendors having everything set up. Thats ridiculous, I mean good god do these people understand anything?! It will be done and looking good for Semana Santa Im sure for all those Mexicans with deep wallets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NOT SPRING BREAK, some ASU kid looking to burn a hole in his or her pocket cant even do so because the malecon is under construction..... hhhhmmmmmm yea that sounds like a good idea, trading up american money for pesos! Good business model....


Well first of all, I'm not the one who waited until the last minute. What pops out at me (maybe because of your over-use of puctuation) from your post is your snide insinuation that Mexicans coming here for Semana Santa don't leave as much revenue. If that's what you think, you're very wrong. I agree that the Malecon still being torn up is a huge problem for the business owners in that part of town. During Spring Break the kids usually scatter around town, but at night they do tend to converge upon the Mirador, though.
Terry C
Score board...

Rosy, 1,365,125,369 points
Others...Hmmmmmmmm.I'll get back to you on that
PitiquitoRosy
Stuart said:
There's the Rosy we know and love!!!! Yanno, when we don't hear from ya for awhile, we start to worry! Glad to hear sales are brisk. Penasco deserves a POSITIVE break for a change! :razz:


You guys know that no matter how quiet I get...I just can't resist jumping in when you take the time to toss little pebbles against my window. Now who else thought Russ jumping in to defend me was sweet? All together now..."AWWW..."
rockyptjoe
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GringoZona
I'm with Joe, regarding the slow movement on the Malecon. It's almost as if they're trying to starve out the fish/shrimp vendors before they throw them off to another section of town. If you've got a last-minute hankering for some fresh shrimp and room in your ice chest while heading out of town with your friends/family, do you really think people are going to park way off the beaten path, get everyone out of the car, drag the ice chest over and start haggling over prices?

I don't even want to get into what it's done to the other businesses along the way...Ugh.

After everything was torn up, the electric lines were installed and the facades were measured off, paving that area should have been the #1 priority, even if it was just a temporary gravel-type road.
Last edited: Mar 10, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Kenny
There are many of us who remember how slow all the construction was in PP before the boom, and compared to those day's this project is moving fast. I'm sure some of you can remember a statement like this,"Oh look! It only took them 2 months to get that last row of block up".
Last edited: Mar 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM
azfish
150 Pecos's a week would you work fast?
Kenny
azfish said:
150 Pecos's a week would you work fast?

Not my point. As you well know a lot of the construction in those day's was slow because they would stop and start depending on how the $$ situation was, and what building material they could afford; not necessarily because they were slow workers.
Last edited: Mar 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM
GringoZona
Yeah, I hear you Kenny, I would joke about that as well, when folks were either building a home or a private business, etc. But this seems to be a govt.-funded project, the money was allocated in advance, correct? Anyway, with so much of the town's economy tied up in that one section, you'd think they'd have ramped up construction on the actual road itself, or at least allowed one lane of traffic through.
PitiquitoRosy
azfish said:
150 Pecos's a week would you work fast?


What on earth gives you the impression that anyone here works for 150 pesos a week?
AZ ROB
PitiquitoRosy said:
What on earth gives you the impression that anyone here works for 150 pesos a week?


Last time down I sat and talked to a worker down there and I asked what the wages were here compared to the states. He said not as good but he was making 350 pesos a day to be a laborer. He said considering his "Apartment" was 700 pesos a month he said he was doing really well being back in Mexico. And during this whole conversation I thought to myself WOW he speaks better english than the girl at the burger shoppe where I had lunch yesterday....
InkaRoads
OK! who said that the Malecon was going to be finish for Spring Break anyway!! :whine: construction will continues until finished, unlike other project left half way done and abandon, we have to keep in mind that Spring Break is just one or two weeks a year, which generates a LOT of money, but we need to understand that RP government is not looking at a couple of weeks a year they are gearing up for the touristic future in a everyday basis. The days of making a 1/4 of a million dollars in one month and close for the rest of the year are over.
The fear the the US media has put in most US population regarding Mexico is coming to and end, I will give it another year at the most if that much, when the US government realized that they are being called the chicken sh%t of the world because they are scaring their own people, I have been talking to other countries passengers and that is the word outside the US and you know how PROUD some US citizens are specially in the government!! I wonder if that is why the bad mouthing of all of the good areas of Mexico has stopped, things that makes you go HMMMMMMM!!!!!
Lets face it people, cartels are killing each other for drug smuggling and power control, they are not messing with tourist of any country or color or in any town away from the border unless it is a town/city with a deep connection to the cartels/mafia, which Rocky Point is not!!! might have cartel connections but it is not the turf they are fighting for!!
Last edited: Mar 11, 2011 at 6:01 AM
Mexico Joe
PitiquitoRosy said:
Well first of all, I'm not the one who waited until the last minute. What pops out at me (maybe because of your over-use of puctuation) from your post is your snide insinuation that Mexicans coming here for Semana Santa don't leave as much revenue. If that's what you think, you're very wrong. I agree that the Malecon still being torn up is a huge problem for the business owners in that part of town. During Spring Break the kids usually scatter around town, but at night they do tend to converge upon the Mirador, though.


I don't disagree. In fact I read in an article on yahoo that overall the Mexican tourist industry remains constant because of domestic tourism. However, why do businesses in RP prefer to take the American dollar over the peso. Obviously we all know the answer to that and thats simply my point. These are the same businesses that try to give you change in pesos when you purchase something with American currency. Regardless of how much money is spent with domestic tourism during Semana Santa you cant negate the fact that American money isn't going to be made this week during spring break. In business the only thing that matters is money and it was plain and simply a bad business decision to wait so close to Spring Break, PERIOD!