Spring Break Numbers Up This Year!

Mexico Joe said:

I was told that this past weekend, Friday and Saturday night Manny's had around 30 people and Baja was a little more crowded. Thats about 10% of the Spring Break Hay day when it was Baja to the brim on both floors, Manny's front and back sections completely full, Pink Cadilac full, Senor Frogs, Rocky Gardens and hell even the middle of the street was a crowded party. Sad...

Rocky Point Rides said:

well, if the US media would have never said that the cartels are killing each other in the beaches of Rocky Point and that americans are being killed in fake check points in highway 8 then the situation will be very different!!! wouldn't you agree?

Mexico Joe said:

Ok before this gets blown out, I dont believe anyone ever said there were people being killed at fake checkpoints on highway 8! They did say that fake checkpoints were set up but they never did say anyone was killed. Get your chit straight man!

gyarbs said:

No matter the reason, it would be nice to get honest reports about the size of crowds. Last Friday we left mannys about 10 pm with about 5 people total, sat. there was more traffic but didnt bother stopping in. Two three, even 10 van loads is not very much and considering many more "kids" probably opt for a ride nowadays with the bad news rather than drive themselves Im noure that vans are getting used more. Not sure that actually mean bigger crowds. Sucks!

Mexico Joe said:

AGREE, the rocky point rides person said their business was up this year. Well unfortunately people dont understand variables. Just because you have more van business doesnt directly mean that more people are coming to RP this year or that it is more busy. I cant say this with probability because I dont know but Im assuming that if business seems up on rocky point rides then that means that people are worried about driving themselves so they are taking charters instead.

MIRAMAR said:

Beg to differ Mexico Joe about you saying consulate never said anything about shootings. Rocky Point Rides was correct (the Consulate recanted this warning after the news station revealed it was untrue):
Posted May 24, 2010, 10:17 am
Dylan Smith TucsonSentinel.com
The U.S. Consulate in Nogales, Son., has issued a "Warden Message" warning of possible unauthorized checkpoints on Highway 8 between the border and Puerto Peñasco.
"There have been unconfirmed reports that unauthorized checkpoints have been set up by unknown persons at night. Reports from those passing through these checkpoints indicate that the operators of the checkpoint only requested to see identification before allowing them to pass. U.S. Consulate Nogales strongly advises any traveler who must take this route do so during daylight hours," the May 19 message states.
The warning offers tips for travelers who are stopped at an unofficial checkpoint:

1. Do not resist. Cooperate immediately and fully.
2. Stay calm, put up your hands, and comply with demands.
3. If you have a child in the car, immediately alert the checkpoint operators of the child's presence.
At some checkpoints, motorists who have not stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed.

Again, the Consulate retracted this warning as it was revealed it was untrue about checkpoints on Highway 8 and Penasco.

Mexico Joe said:

Ok before this gets blown out, I dont believe anyone ever said there were people being killed at fake checkpoints on highway 8! They did say that fake checkpoints were set up but they never did say anyone was killed. Get your chit straight man!

Mexico Joe said:

AGREE, the rocky point rides person said their business was up this year. Well unfortunately people dont understand variables. Just because you have more van business doesnt directly mean that more people are coming to RP this year or that it is more busy. I cant say this with probability because I dont know but Im assuming that if business seems up on rocky point rides then that means that people are worried about driving themselves so they are taking charters instead.

lagrimas85 said:

Eduardo, your bite is like a wild cobaya. Speaking of cobaya lets fry one up and eat him together.

Rocky Point Rides said:

mexjoe, I don't know if you where around here when this thread came up but here is a link, you can read it and find the specific place where it is mention:
http://www.rockypointtalk.net/showthread.php?2011-Unauthorized-Checkpoints-on-8-to-Rocky-Point/page2

Now, as you can "ASSUME" I have my feces straight and pretty much firm unlike the diarrhea that is spilling out of your pie whole!!



Again, here go, you need to understand your own thought and set them straight, me saying that I have triple the business that I had last year's Spring Break does not mean there are more people in Rocky Point, you are "a$$ U ming" I am saying what you are thinking, as you said before I think is time for you to go to bed and yank yourself

Mexico Joe said:

If you want to provide the EXACT piece of literature that says someone got killed on highway 8 in Mexico at an unofficial checkpoint then I will say Im wrong. You cant provide that information because you're a DONKEY and you missed the class WHERE you learned to back up argument with cited information from credible sources

InkaRoads said:

mexjoe, first of all I have to apologize to the members of this forum for going off after your stupid comments under my business name and actually I risked my customer service reputation fighting with a boy (28? yrs old) that actually thinks that "more busy" is CORRECTER than a simple mistake of adding a "H" in "were", a mistake often made by natiuralized citizens of the USA that had to learn english to be able to adapt and forge a live in a completely different environment, that is something that a little silver spoon diarrhea filled brain boy that have to have daddio pay for the cell phone he uses and worries more about appearances than what really matters in life as in getting a life in your own rights.

This was actually meant for dry heat but I think it applies to you as well. I will respond later in full because I have things to do. Thank you.

Look Joe, this is the second time you do not know or are 100% sure of what you are talking about and again seems like you would like to put words in my mouth and still think you are right, when I posted the link of the thread and specify for you to look for the particular place where it is mention, I was not telling you to look at the first page of eleven on that thread and jump into conclussions, my mistake I was "ASS U MING" that you would do the correct thing and also read the links in that thread, OBVIUOSLY you did not, so let me see not only are you a little mommys boy that daddy pays the bills for but you are a LAZY IDIOT that rather sound and look like an imbecil in front of many than spent a few minutes and do some searching, I think some soul searching will be better, in your case, because all of us in this world are "BEAUTIFULL PEOPLE" not only the well dress or well manner, education as in school is just knowledge crumpped in your brain in a 4 year college, if you think that makes you a more beatiful person, notice the correct use of the word "more", then all of those with a college degree are beautiful no matter what, I am "ASS U MING" here that is what you ment.
Now, it seems that you are making a reference of your lack of memory due to your getting older, but you say you are about 28 yrs old, if that is the case then you better stay home with mommy and daddio, you do not even remember your own words:

"HEY INK, I hope you are talking about me because Im ready to do this like the shootout at the OK Corral. Here we go, lets review the quote.............. I suddenly had this new found energy to put my hand on my D#$% and grab it hard..........

Sorry, my bad, I "assumed" you said YANK HARD, then again I am loosing my memory since I am getting old!!

OK!! I am done with your stupid stance on life and you in general and by the way I did not used the spell check I did it all in my own!! :-o
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TA-TA (shoot!! let me educate you joe TA-TA is a british expression that means the same as bye-bye)

Mexico Joe said:

I never said spell check, and no this doesnt discourage my current bitch fight because once again this says nothing SPECIFICALLY about shootings on highway 8. "U.S. citizens traveling through NORTHERN MEXICO should exercise...". It obviously warns us of the unofficial checkpoints, then gives us three things we can do in the event of an unofficial stop, followed by what has happened to people that didnt stop at unofficial checkpoints, ELSEWHERE not on Highway 8 specifically. That sentence is followed by, " U.S. citizens traveling through northern Mexico...". NORTHERN MEXICO IN GENERAL HAS SEEN PEOPLE SHOT AT OR KILLED FOR NOT STOPPING AT CHECKPOINTS, not specifically highway 8. The US consulate is reiterating what could or has happened elsewhere at unofficial checkpoints. Once again, please produce a statement that IN ONE SENTENCE SAYS, bla bla bla someone was shot and killed on highway 8 at an unofficial checkpoint. I was already referred to this and I dont believe anywhere it says ON HIGHWAY 8 people that havent stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed. Using your brain doesnt mean it's supreme.

Mexico Joe said:

I never said spell check, and no this doesnt discourage my current bitch fight because once again this says nothing SPECIFICALLY about shootings on highway 8. "U.S. citizens traveling through NORTHERN MEXICO should exercise...". It obviously warns us of the unofficial checkpoints, then gives us three things we can do in the event of an unofficial stop, followed by what has happened to people that didnt stop at unofficial checkpoints, ELSEWHERE not on Highway 8 specifically. That sentence is followed by, " U.S. citizens traveling through northern Mexico...". NORTHERN MEXICO IN GENERAL HAS SEEN PEOPLE SHOT AT OR KILLED FOR NOT STOPPING AT CHECKPOINTS, not specifically highway 8. The US consulate is reiterating what could or has happened elsewhere at unofficial checkpoints. Once again, please produce a statement that IN ONE SENTENCE SAYS, bla bla bla someone was shot and killed on highway 8 at an unofficial checkpoint. I was already referred to this and I dont believe anywhere it says ON HIGHWAY 8 people that havent stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed. Using your brain doesnt mean it's supreme.

dry heat said:

It seems you are having a hard time understanding the intent of the warden's message (that was eventually retracted), so I removed most of the message so that you could focus on two key sentences. When people read the warden's message, most (I would say say 99% - other than you of course) would assume the warning involves travel on highway 8 and what has been reported if someone does not stop at a checkpoint. The message starts off by saying where the warning is (highway 8), followed by reports of checkpoints on the highway, followed by 3 things one can do if they encounter a checkpoint, followed by what has been reported if you don't stop (shot and killed). Then (yes after all that) the message continues about using caution if you are traveling in northern mexico. I suggest you read the message over and over again and you will notice that the intent of the warning was to inform the reader that some have been shot and killed on that highway if you did not stop. Pay more attention to the sentence structure in the paragraph and how it flows. I am truly trying to help you so that you stop embarrasing yourself when it comes to understand the intention of the state department at the time when it came to travel on highway 8 and how the warning was written to direct the reader's reasoning ability that people had been shot and killed on this highway (I am sorry other than children's books, you don't need to specifically state who, what, where, why and how something happens in one sentence). As you progress in your reading, you will notice that a message is often shared to allow the reader to fill in the gaps just by the way it is written and how it flows without outlining all the details in a single sentence.

Warden Message – Security Issues
May 19, 2010
This Warden Message is to inform U.S. citizens traveling to and residing in Mexico of security concerns for travelers driving on Highway 8 between the U.S./Mexico border and Puerto Peñasco (Rocky Point). At some checkpoints, motorists who have not stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed.

mexico joe said:

"it seems you are having a hard time understanding the intent of the warden's message", how do you establish what someone else's intent is? The answer is, you cant!!!!!!! You cant tell me what i intend to say right now, you cant tell me what someone intends to do when they buy a gun or toilet paper or anything!!! Only the person acting can tell you their intention. You made me dumber by telling me that you removed most of the message so that i could focus on two key sentences, obviously!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol, thats called taking something out of context, people do it all the time, politicians do it, your mom does it, i do it. Thats why when i quote something, and this is mla, you are allowed to leave out key information to make a quote sound better, or fit your argument better. " if i were to read your chopped up, out of context quote above then yes i would say god damn, they are shooting people at unofficial checkpoints on highway 8, that sucks! Fortunately thats not how the warden's message came out. The problem i have with you is that you use general terms like most. Most, i would say 99%! Who's most? How many people is 99% most people that buy guns commit murder because i know thats what they intend to do! Please, when you want to debate with me, please please please dont use most or majority or a lot or 99% of an unknown #, it doesnt make you sound any better to throw out meaningless generalizations. I do a lot of assuming so i guess when 99% of the people agree, does that mean that 99 people agree and 1 doesnt? Does that mean that 1000 people agree and 10 dont? How many people are we talking here? A million? Not quite sure cause i dont make irrational claims like that. Furthermore, after you tell me that 99% of people agree you go on to tell me that they agree based off an assumption. So let me understand you, 99% of the people that read the wardens message assume, not know they are correct? Would you agree that assuming and knowing are different? How is me assuming something different than others basing their opinion off assumption and not fact? Once again, i dont know because i cant determine intent of someone else, but i can develop opinion of someone's intent and in my opinion based on sentence structure and children's books that i read day to day would allow me to believe that the warden included the line about unofficial checkpoints to show the seriousness of the claims. The intent imo was to show the seriousness of the claim. Why would they reiterate northern mexico two sentences after? Honestly, ive read to many children's books tonight and im extremely tired and i have to go masterbate. "...the warning was written to direct the reader's reasoning ability...", obviously!!!!!! You can structure writing like that to say something without actually saying it. They never said people that didnt come to a stop at unofficial checkpoints on highway 8 in mexico have been shot at and killed. Honestly at this point, isn't this semantics? I just dont understand how you can tell me that you are right based off an assumption, and i quote, "(i would say say 99% - other than you of course) would assume....", so 99% of an unknown # are right based off of their assumption and im (1%) wrong because i made an opposite assumption? Sounds like semantics, also, " stop embarrasing yourself when it comes to understand the intention of the state department", can i assume english is your second language tambien?! It's only embarrassing if the subject is embarrassed. #winning #proofyowork #imout

Mexico Joe said:

Ive read to many children's books tonight and Im extremely tired and I have to go masterbate. "

Kenny said:

What impresses me about you two is the total lack of of imagination and humor in your arguments. Hell, you'd think you were both right wing conservatives.:mrgreen:

Kenny said:

What impresses me about you two is the total lack of of imagination and humor in your arguments. Hell, you'd think you were both right wing conservatives.:mrgreen:

Oh, if being a right wing conservative includes religion and fairy tales, the answer is no.

GringoZona said:

And thus, another perfectly innocent thread is killed.

dry heat said:

I don't know why I waste time on this... the warden's message was in reference to unauthorized checkpoints on highway 8 (a variety of entities spoke directly to the nogales office and later to the Tijuana Consulate office confirming the US consulate office was speaking directly about checkpoints on highway 8 (sources such as the US media, mexican media, sonoran gov't and state unversities). the only reference to "northern mexico" was toward the end of the article "U.S. citizens traveling through northern Mexico should exercise caution." Thus when the message says "At some checkpoints, motorists who have not stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed" it is pretty clear that it is referring to highway 8.
By the way, an american family was shot at on highway 8 because they did not pull over and many believe this incident lead to the original wardens message about people being shot at and killed.
Since it appears you are concerned about spelling and proof reading, would you be so kind as to spell check and proof the 30,000+ posts on this site?

I am actually concerned about your choice of entertainment. I hope to not catch you on the next episode of "to catch a predator on 20/20...

rockyptjoe said:

mexico joe....i'm not going to get into what you or dry heat have going on.....but i will say this.....many....yes....many ...people (i'm almost tempted to say most) do not know how to read....or lack the comprehension of what they are reading. They pick out words and phrases, and then go charging off....because the words or phrases convey what they have already decided is fact or truth. Logic doesn't enter into it!

Ding....ding....ding....round 11........................

Mexico Joe said:

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Mexico Joe said:

Mexico Joe said:

lol

Who???? Little ole me???:rofl::stir:

rockyptjoe said:

Mexico Joe....I'm not going to get into what you or Dry Heat have going on.....but I will say this.....MANY....yes....MANY ...people (I'm almost tempted to say MOST) do not know how to read....or lack the comprehension of what they are reading. They pick out words and phrases, and then go charging off....because the words or phrases convey what they have already decided is fact or truth. Logic doesn't enter into it!

Ding....ding....ding....Round 11........................

playaperro said:

See Ya going to Party az over steers and queers...

inkaroads said:

i came to tucson, returned the rented van and run to la parrilla suiza for an early dinner, as always it was just awesome, specially their margarita jug!!!
It is going to be an early night for me so to all ta-ta!!

Ps: Sorry julie, i got drag into this one again due to the lack of reading comprehension that i was able to get while learning english in england, i guess i should have come to usa and go to mexjoe school instead!!

Mexico Joe said:

I Yes, I USE LOGIC, when the warden says reports are that people were stopped asked for ID and then allowed to PASS, followed by PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT AT AND KILLED IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH is CONTRADICTORY. CONTRADICTION DEFIES LOGIC.

Mexico Joe said:

Ive read to many children's books tonight and Im extremely tired and I have to go masterbate.

I will get back to being a wealthy/atheist/independent/grammarly challenged self. Enjoy your night-time reading.

dry heat said:

Will attempt to answer this while I am on a flight to London (2012 summer olympic meetings). I don't believe the two sentences are contradicting each other. One is talking about reports of those that have stopped-
"There have been unconfirmed reports that unauthorized checkpoints have been set up by unknown persons at night. Reports from those passing through these checkpoints indicate that the operators of the checkpoint only requested to see identification before allowing them to pass."
The other sentence is talking about reports of those that have not stopped-
"At some checkpoints, motorists who have not stopped at unofficial checkpoints have been shot at and killed." the difference is stop and not stopped, I could explain the difference between both actions if you want.

I'm sorry I was not able to find where I said you where a "pedophile".


Anyways homey, hope spring break numbers are up and I will get back to being a wealthy/atheist/independent/grammarly challenged self. Enjoy your night-time reading.

Wahoo said:

La Parrilla Suiza!!! I love that place.... Real Mex vs Tex Mex...... Pouring cheese ans lettuce on top of a dish does not make it Mexican,
Was sad when they closed the one in Phx , now only in Tucson.... Highly recommend.

No spell scheck; sorry