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Known Business Closures

Started by rockyptjoe · Jan 5, 2011 · 56 replies
rockyptjoe
List of businesses that are known to have closed.
Last edited: Jan 5, 2011 at 10:58 AM
rockyptjoe
Thirsty Parrot

owner planning to open another palce in the old Portofino location
rockyptjoe
Black Dog

permanent???
rockyptjoe
Desert Oasis

Not known if rv park or hotel is still open
AZ ROB
Manny's moved all liquor to Tequilla factory
rockyptjoe
Manny's Beach Club

Forgot to list that one.......
Jim
JC's, Club Catorce, Peanuts, El Descanso, Miau Miau's, Duna's and soon to be some more that I know of. Sad
Jeff
rockyptjoe said:
Not known if rv park or hotel is still open


Nope. Inquired over the summer.
Roberto
rockyptjoe said:
permanent???


Black Dog is Open, no gambling.
rockyptjoe
Roberto said:
Black Dog is Open, no gambling.


Someone posted in another thread that Black Dog had closed for good.....I'll be down this weekend and can verify
Last edited: Jan 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM
rockyptjoe
La Curva

Not known if closed for good....info was posted in another thread.
rockyptjoe
Jim said:
JC's, Club Catorce, Peanuts, El Descanso, Miau Miau's, Duna's and soon to be some more that I know of. Sad


Heard that Duna's was closed already over Thanksgiving....Catorce used to be locals hangout (the Mexican yuppies???)....

Jim...is Cameltoe "associated" with Sharkbite in some way???
Last edited: Jan 5, 2011 at 1:31 PM
jerry
Just spotted this picture of Joe and his new toy to fight off those darn narcos that hound his existence
http://shinsenelite.com/2009/04/07/pzf3-panzerfaust-anti-tank-weapon-for-sgt-bazooka/
rockyptjoe said:
Someone posted in another thread that Black Dog had closed for good.....I'll be down this weekend and can verify
Ladyjeeper
Give it a break, Jer.
Terry C
I hope Burger King is still open :?: :woo:
Ladyjeeper
Stuart,
Where's my puking smilie?
Terry C
Lol
rockyptjoe
jerry said:
Just spotted this picture of Joe and his new toy to fight off those darn narcos that hound his existence
http://shinsenelite.com/2009/04/07/pzf3-panzerfaust-anti-tank-weapon-for-sgt-bazooka/


Hey Jerry...at least I show my face in Penasco....not like you who holes up down in SantoTomas.....in your "gated" community.....
Jim
Hey Joe,
We are not officially associated with Shark Bite. Santana has been helping out with management and he's a friend so we just kind of work together.
rockyptjoe
Thanks Jim....was just wondering after I saw the "joint" billboard coming in to town....
mexicoruss
rockyptjoe said:
Thanks Jim....was just wondering after I saw the "joint" billboard coming in to town....

Joint billboard, funny in the context
lagrimas85
Probably gonna see "joint" billboards in Arizona soon
Dezracer
rockyptjoe said:
Catorce used to be locals hangout (the Mexican yuppies???)....



Catorce is closed...the owner is on the run from the Cartel
Dezracer
rockyptjoe said:
Someone posted in another thread that Black Dog had closed for good.....I'll be down this weekend and can verify

Black Dog was open all last week
Dezracer
Closed:

Blue Budda
Churros and Burros
Pitaya
Pink Cadillac
Tenshi Sushi ( I think the might had moved)
Sushi Sun
Most of the Benny Pizza locations
AZ ROB
I heard of a place that makes fried chicken I was told it was out of this world. Russ I do want to go to that hot dog place you were telling us about sometime
Ladyjeeper
The chicken place is called Crispy's. It's on Sonora st. by Josefa or Sinaloa,I can't remember. I've been wanting to try it myself. Let's go next time we are down together. The hot dog place is called Chon's. It's on Constitucion about 200 feet from Benito Juarez. Going north on Juarez, turn left on Constitucion and it's on the right. They guy has a white pick up parked in front. Yummy goopy hot dogs!
jerry
Joe you don't seem to be coming to Mexico any less frequently...you just are making trouble(which I'm a big fan of myself) but if i have to send my men to town you better be ready with your paintball gun! http://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/SantoTomasMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCIu96ND_lfujIA#5529505792272366514
rockyptjoe said:
Hey Jerry...at least I show my face in Penasco....not like you who holes up down in SantoTomas.....in your "gated" community.....
tortuga
Pink Cadillac is not closed. Open Thurs throug Monday am.
AZ ROB
Ladyjeeper said:
The chicken place is called Crispy's. It's on Sonora st. by Josefa or Sinaloa,I can't remember. I've been wanting to try it myself. Let's go next time we are down together. The hot dog place is called Chon's. It's on Constitucion about 200 feet from Benito Juarez. Going north on Juarez, turn left on Constitucion and it's on the right. They guy has a white pick up parked in front. Yummy goopy hot dogs!

:party:
Sounds good to me LJ we need to get the Tahoe loaded up with people and find someone who knows where all these places are and try to hit 5 or 6 of them in an evening.. Maybe Tom will be back in town by then.....:cruisin:
Ladyjeeper
5 or 6? We'll need an 18 wheeler to haul us home after eating all that! LOL! I know where most of the places are, I just can't tell you how to get there....
rockyptjoe
jerry said:
Joe you don't seem to be coming to Mexico any less frequently...you just are making trouble(which I'm a big fan of myself) but if i have to send my men to town you better be ready with your paintball gun! http://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/SantoTomasMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCIu96ND_lfujIA#5529505792272366514


I'm still aware of where I go and what I do...just can't see some people doing the "head in the sand"...telling everyone there is nothing going on down there. There may be a point in time where I will say the risk is greater than the rewards....and stop going. It hasn't arrived yet.....
Roberto
rockyptjoe said:
..just can't see some people doing the "head in the sand"...telling everyone there is nothing going on down there...



If you are referring to Yo, re read everthing I wrote. No where did I state or even suggest there was nothing going on down here. Yes, there are serious problems with violence, and at the risk of another diatribe, there are serious problems with violence in many places. Yes, yes, yes, keep informed, take precautions every where you go. I always do. Of coures it means absolutely nothing that I am exposed to any risk of violence much more than people not living here.

What I do see, and what I was objecting to initially, is that if someone posts "I'm not worried about it" there is an element on the forum that mounts, what seems to me an unnecessary attack distorting the original post. Then comes the name calling and insults. If a post is not negative, you piss your pants about it and go on the attack. Shades of grey, Joe, shades of grey. Not everything is in black and white. Context is important for understanding.
rockyptjoe
Roberto said:
If you are referring to Yo, re read everthing I wrote. No where did I state or even suggest there was nothing going on down here. Yes, there are serious problems with violence, and at the risk of another diatribe, there are serious problems with violence in many places. Yes, yes, yes, keep informed, take precautions every where you go. I always do. Of coures it means absolutely nothing that I am exposed to any risk of violence much more than people not living here.

What I do see, and what I was objecting to initially, is that if someone posts "I'm not worried about it" there is an element on the forum that mounts, what seems to me an unnecessary attack distorting the original post. Then comes the name calling and insults. If a post is not negative, you piss your pants about it and go on the attack. Shades of grey, Joe, shades of grey. Not everything is in black and white. Context is important for understanding.


Roberto....and correct me if I'm wrong...but I beleive you were bringing in a comparison of the violence that exists in the states to what is going on in Mexico, thereby lessening the "impact" of that Mexico violence.....and denying through your comments that there is an ongoing WAR between the government and the cartels.
Roberto
Joe Sez: Roberto....and correct me if I'm wrong...but I beleive you were bringing in a comparison of the violence that exists in the states to what is going on in Mexico, thereby lessening the "impact" of that Mexico violence.....and denying through your comments that there is an ongoing WAR between the government and the cartels.

Not really Joe, re-read what I wrote. Maybe I was not clear, but the point is that there is a very distorted view of the violence in Mexico created by the US Media, that's it Joe. I was in the media business for years, my observations of how they work are first hand, not that that would be important or anything. My interpretations and observations of the behavior of the media are also colored by the fact that I have some 150 or so graduate hours in psychology with 4 degrees. I think it is undeniable that the media reporting is biased by many factors, the biggest one being reporting what garner's eyes and or ears and therefore advertising dollars, not necessarily the news. Violence is a big draw for the news, we humans seem drawn to observing it. If there was that much reporting of crime in the US you would have a distorted view of that too, which was my attempted point.

I do object to he word WAR as it is more inflamatory that is necessary to depict the situation and furthermore fits in with the media's method of drawing viewers, create a little hysteria about a subject is always a good technique.

As such, as I see it, the distortion and hysteria creates bad information, information unnecessarily colored by emotion. Acting on bad information is not a good thing, right? Now this goes both way too. I did feel that the reaction to Rob's mild comment and observation fit right into this scheme.

Now you can argue that the US media is fair and even handed and not 'over reporting' the violence in Mexico and you can argue that using the word WAR is not inflammatory, but I can see pretty far, no sand in my eyes.
rockyptjoe
Roberto said:
Joe Sez: Roberto....and correct me if I'm wrong...but I beleive you were bringing in a comparison of the violence that exists in the states to what is going on in Mexico, thereby lessening the "impact" of that Mexico violence.....and denying through your comments that there is an ongoing WAR between the government and the cartels.

Not really Joe, re-read what I wrote. Maybe I was not clear, but the point is that there is a very distorted view of the violence in Mexico created by the US Media, that's it Joe. I was in the media business for years, my observations of how they work are first hand, not that that would be important or anything. My interpretations and observations of the behavior of the media are also colored by the fact that I have some 150 or so graduate hours in psychology with 4 degrees. I think it is undeniable that the media reporting is biased by many factors, the biggest one being reporting what garner's eyes and or ears and therefore advertising dollars, not necessarily the news. Violence is a big draw for the news, we humans seem drawn to observing it. If there was that much reporting of crime in the US you would have a distorted view of that too, which was my attempted point.

I do object to he word WAR as it is more inflamatory that is necessary to depict the situation and furthermore fits in with the media's method of drawing viewers, create a little hysteria about a subject is always a good technique.

As such, as I see it, the distortion and hysteria creates bad information, information unnecessarily colored by emotion. Acting on bad information is not a good thing, right? Now this goes both way too. I did feel that the reaction to Rob's mild comment and observation fit right into this scheme.

Now you can argue that the US media is fair and even handed and not 'over reporting' the violence in Mexico and you can argue that using the word WAR is not inflammatory, but I can see pretty far, no sand in my eyes.


This thread seems to have been hijaacked.....what's new??

Roberto....congratulations on your multiple degrees....I'm sure you're proud of your accomplishments! However, I've always felt that people that marched out their degrees/education on this type of a forum (the internet) were somewhat insecure about themselves. I would not march out how many degrees I may have unless I was a "professional" and it involved employment (doctor/lawyer/engineer/scientist) or I was making a presentation to a professional organization or presenting a paper to one. I've known phD's who didn't have enough common sense to get out of a paper bag with a razor blade! I've known many others with limited educations that were just the opposite. Education, that is, a degree, is a function of a person's life circumstances....not necessarily an indication of a person's intelligence or common sense.

I don't argue that today's new media is biased....and tends to sensationalize things. Aren't you somewhat contradicting yourself above though with your statement about US media? Have you spent too much time in Mexico and haven't watched US news reports....half of the stories have to do with crime (please don't knock me about statistics)....so crime/violence is covered "very well" in the states...and we are all very well aware of it.

BUT, we (in the states) do not have warfare in the streets (maybe some boys wanting to play with their toys....as in Chandler). We don't have police stations shot up.....mayors and police officials assassinated on a large scale.....people left on display after being tortured, killed and mutilated...truck loads of soldiers riding around chasing after the bad guys.....and in gun battles.....whole towns (and maybe even states) controlled by the cartel, including the local governments..... This is being reported by the Mexican press! Yeah, we have corruption, police officers killed, murders, etc. etc. etc.....but this is "run of the mill crime".....not on the scale of what is happening in Mexico.....it's not the quantity....it's the quality (for want of a better term)!!!

Saying that calling it war is inflammatory, is sticking your head in the sand. It is what it is!!!
happygirl
Suggestion (so please don't jump all over me, i hestiate always to post here as i don't want to get in arguments with anyone...and there is alot of that on this forum) but please just remember be careful posting this kind of info...(for the owners sake)...some of these are NOT closed.....they may have changed days/hours opened or took a holiday break, but they are still doing business and NEED business....i ate at some of them just last week...

Blue Budda
Churros and Burros
Pitaya (THIS IS OPEN UPSTAIRS FOR A GREAT BREAKFAST, DOWNSTAIRS OUTSIDE LITTLE BAR...GREAT FOR DRINKS)
Pink Cadillac (THEY ARE OPEN AND IN FACT VERY VERY BUSY LAST SUNDAY FOR BREAKFAST WHICH WAS GREAT AS ALWAYS.....)
Tenshi Sushi ( I think the might had moved)
Sushi Sun
Most of the Benny Pizza locations
rockyptjoe
Pitaya has been pretty much closed upstairs...opening occasionally. I recall one weekend, they had a wedding reception upstairs. The times I've been down, it has not been open. The "bar" is usually just the outdoor one downstairs.

Some of my info has been from reliable sources...but if someone knows there are errors.....PLEASE post the corrections! I don't believe anyone on here wants to take business away from any establishments....well maybe HAPPY and La Curva!!! I know several of the businesses have gone to reduced hours/days that they are open (closing during the middle of the week)....which may be causing some errors.

Maybe one of the Moderators can change the title of the thread....from "Known" to something else????
Last edited: Jan 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM
jerry
Joe,re-re-read Roberto's reply. He said he was in the Media biz and feels this gives him a better view of the BS they call news that is served to US viewers(similar to a doctor in your example commenting on the hospital business) let's face it man,you again started a thread that highlights the failed RP business scene,lately you constantly scream about the danger (even though you have not been effected) and you seem to miss the point that the lack of fun you seem to be getting out of your mexico experience lately might just be the need for more bran in your diet. The Sharks are eating the Sharks in our version of Jaws...not the tourists!
HAPPY
Oh My God !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~ ~ ~

happygirl said:
suggestion (so please don't jump all over me, i hestiate always to post here as i don't want to get in arguments with anyone...and there is alot of that on this forum) but please just remember be careful posting this kind of info...(for the owners sake)...some of these are not closed.....they may have changed days/hours opened or took a holiday break, but they are still doing business and need business....i ate at some of them just last week...

Blue budda
churros and burros
pitaya (this is open upstairs for a great breakfast, downstairs outside little bar...great for drinks)
pink cadillac (they are open and in fact very very busy last sunday for breakfast which was great as always.....)
tenshi sushi ( i think the might had moved)
sushi sun
most of the benny pizza locations


~ ~ ~ Oh my god, ~ ~ ~ not another one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl::lol::rofl::lol:

~~~ BTW, ~~~ WHO SAID THAT YOU COULD USE ~~~ HAPPY ~~~

~~~ HAPPY ~~~ belongs to ~~~ ME, ~~~ so please CHANGE your USERNAME !!! :har::moon: :fish: Y
rockyptjoe
jerry said:
Joe,re-re-read Roberto's reply. He said he was in the Media biz and feels this gives him a better view of the BS they call news that is served to US viewers(similar to a doctor in your example commenting on the hospital business) let's face it man,you again started a thread that highlights the failed RP business scene,lately you constantly scream about the danger (even though you have not been effected) and you seem to miss the point that the lack of fun you seem to be getting out of your mexico experience lately might just be the need for more bran in your diet. The Sharks are eating the Sharks in our version of Jaws...not the tourists!


Jerry....I'm not screaming about the danger....just trying to point out that some people are sticking their heads in the sand, denying that there is a problem in Mexico....thereby giving a false sense of security to someone who doesn't visit regularly.

The level of danger in Penasco has not risen to what would prevent me from going down. But I won't state that there is no danger or try to compare it to any violence in the states! I have always told my friends who ask that I feel safe going down......but I won't poo-poo what is currently happening....and what I see as an escalation of violence in the Penasco area. Everyone has to make a decision based on their experiences and comfort level. There is a risk with just about anything we do...drive a car...walk down the street....take a boat out into the ocean. You just need to be aware of the risks, evaluate them relative to you, and not be lulled into a false sense of safety.

And Jerry, I can guarantee you that I don't need any bran!!! My brain is not plugged up!:moon:
Roberto
Joe Sez: However, I've always felt that people that marched out their degrees/education on this type of a forum (the internet) were somewhat insecure about themselves. I would not march out how many degrees

Sorry about that. It won't happen again. I've been on the forum for some 5 or 6 years and that's the first time I've confessed to being well educated. I only offered that to give a perspective on my thoughts.
Kenny
There are so many great comebacks to those straight line's... I'm having trouble controlling myself, and my laughter.
Last edited: Jan 6, 2011 at 7:51 PM
rockyptjoe
Kenny said:
There are so many great comebacks to those straight line's... I'm having trouble controlling myself, and my laughter.


Kenny...I'm so :fish: :fish: HAPPY :fish::fish: that we could keep you in such good humor!!

Roberto....Unfortunately, I've found that frequently education intelligence:think::moon:
Smilin' Jack
Dezracer said:
Catorce is closed...the owner is on the run from the Cartel


Which cartel? The body of the young owner of the taco restaurant next to Catorce was found mutilated, and cut up in pieces about one year ago at kilometer post 27 on the Penasco-Sonoyta highway. His death was attributed to a debt that he owed to a cartel. Two cartels have recently been competing for drug routes through Penasco to the US.
jerry
Smilin' Jack said:
Which cartel? The body of the young owner of the taco restaurant next to Catorce was found mutilated, and cut up in pieces about one year ago at kilometer post 27 on the Penasco-Sonoyta highway. His death was attributed to a debt that he owed to a cartel. Two cartels have recently been competing for drug routes through Penasco to the US.

When you kill the guy that owes you money how do you ever get paid? Plus no free tacos for your crew...
lagrimas85
Jack, when somebody owes a debt for drugs you cant take them civil court for damages, they have their own way of settling things and the people that get involved know the consequences of not taking care of their part. He should have stuck to the business he knew. I dont beleive cartels that are worth billions would even monkey a round with a taco guy, that would be like Weyerhauser Forest Products sending their salesmen down to the people building shacks on the railroad tracks trying to sell them cardboard,plywood and 2x4's it was somebody on the bottom rung he probably owed. There is no promisary notes or paperwork in that business its all based on faith and when you dont keep your word you got a problem. I understand that the drugs start with the cartels but that doesn't mean everybody that wholesales them or retails them are members of the cartels.
Last edited: Jan 7, 2011 at 9:35 AM
GringoZona
BACK TO THE THREAD TOPIC...
Thristy Parrot is currently CLOSED and planning a move to the old Portifino location (next to Flavio's, etc.) or is OPEN and planning that move?
rockyptjoe
Thirsty Parrot posted on their Facebook page that they were officially closed. Other info on this forum indicated that the owner and another person were planning on opening a new place in the OLD Portofino location.
GringoZona
That is very sad news. I know it had sort of a cheesy Jimmy Buffet theme (yes, fightin' words in some quarters), but they were very enthusiastic promoters, the staff was excellent, friendly and accommodating, the view couldn't be beat...And ice-cold AC & free wi-fi!?!? This is just killing my spirit for a trip this month and making the last trip even more depressing, as the whole Malecon was down due to the new power lines being installed. :(
bunster695
rockyptjoe said:
permanent???

No
rockyptjoe
bunster695 said:
No

I assume you were referring to Black Dog???? that is, not closed permanently????
rockyptjoe
I can report that La Curva is open!

I went by Black Dog....the lights were on, and there were 3-4 cars outside.

Pink Cadillac also had the lights on, and a few vehicles outside.

Capones and Sand Bar were open, as well as Chango's.

Unfortunately for a few of you, Miau Miau (or something like that) and Dunas, are closed. But you can always visit Happy Face Massage, and it looked like Mamacita's and Guau Guau were also open for your diversion!!!:twisted:..Oops...forgot, Blue Zebra is also open....
rockyptjoe
There was a rumor floating around town this weekend that the Sandbar would be closing for a couple of months until Spring Break. Saw Chris, one of the owners, and he said definitely NO! They were staying open. So you lushes on the Mirador will continue to have someplace to drink!!:rofl:
Bob Oso
I'm sure it's been brought up already, but I was supprised to see what I was told is a new federal law of no smoking indoors anymore. Of course I was informed of this as I was holding my lit cigarette asking for an ashtray.

I also heard, and hopefully some of the resturant/business owners here can verify this is that there's some sort of employee/employment law or regulation that has been recently instated that is further hindering business's bottom line of RP. From what I understand is that you just don't fire a employee, but that there is a contract and/or pay schedule that goes along with their employement while there or not. Could someone clearify that for me? Sorry for being so vauge.
Terry C
You can't fire anyone until you go to the labor board is my understanding. It is a contract of sort
JayT
Not sure how current or accurate this is, but interesting info on labor laws in Mexico.

http://rollybrook.com/employee-pay.htm