Stuart / Gout

On one of your earlier posts you mention buying Ritradol in Mexico for your gout.
Do you have any comparison with that and Allupurinol from the states? Another question is about any potential problem related to kidney failure issues. I am about 20% failure and need to be careful. Thanks

Stuart
I just came across one of your posts on gout and you mentioned Indomethacine. That is bad stuff. When I was sent to my Kidney Dr. he told me that the kidney failure I have was directly related to the taking of the Indo. Just be aware and be careful

I only take Allopurinol on a regular basis (daily). The indomethecine and Ritradol are only to help ease an attack. Both help break up the uric acid crystals. My doctor gave me something else called colchine, too, but it's actually a poison. Instructions say to take until the attack subsides or you get sick, whichever occurs first. Wonderful. I've been fortunate in managing the attacks and haven't had a severe one in over a year. Daily allopurinol is the key, and of course, diet. Yes, long term use on the Ritradol *will* cause kidney pain and issues. However, short use during an attack seems to be fine.

Colchicine - Extracted from the autumn crocus, also the source of safron, the pollen from the male parts of the flower. Used in minute quantities mainly to prevent gout attacks. Extremely toxic, producing symptoms similar to arsenic poisoning.

Smilin' Jack said:

Colchicine - Extremely toxic, producing symptoms similar to arsenic poisoning.

That which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger! After I'm done puking my guts up, of course.
:puff:

Gout medicine in Mexico...has anyone bought the new gout medicine Uloric in mexico?

jerry said:

Gout medicine in Mexico...has anyone bought the new gout medicine Uloric in mexico?

The best gout medicine is a booze free, vegan lifestyle. Ever hear of dinasaurs getting gout?

Having a personal and family history of gout, I have tried most everything but the afore mentioned meds.
I have an intense dislike of medications and their afterglow. I have a couple friends who take a glass of cherry juice
each day and they swear by it. I myself take cherry fruit extract and while it doesn't completely stop an attack, it
makes it easier to get rid of it. When I stopped taking it, I had the last attack which was a severe as any I've ever had.

My son gets it much worse than I and he is on Alopurinol now. The problem with that drug is that if you take it during an
attack, it really magnifies the problem. I have so many aches and pains, I'm not really sure if I'm gout free at any one time.
During the last attack on my wrist and elbow, I had to go to urgent care and the doc extracted fluid from my elbow. It was
the grossest stuff I've seen for a long time. The doc looked at it and said yep, that's Uric Acid. He put me on some crazy drug called
Prednisone which sort of helped until I got a bloody nose and he switched me to Indo, which helped greatly. I only take it in
desperation and with a Pepcid AC to help the stomach.

I try to watch my diet and drinking and limit each unless I don't. I have tried to find a trigger for the flare ups but can't put my
finger on any one thing. I do know one thing that is paramount. WATER. You must stay well hydrated to keep away Gout Man.

OK guys any info is greatly appreciated.

The Endo. caused my Kidney failure. Now at between 35 and 50. I take 200 mg of allopurinol daily and have been free from any attacks for about 2 years.

The problem with drugs is that if you have to have one for a problem it makes another problem that may be worse than the first one.

You mentioned not being able to pinpoint what triggers it. My DH suffers from it & is on Alopurinol, which helps, but over the years I've traced it down for him to stress. If he gets under severe stress about a week to two weeks later he will have a flare up Since it never happened immediately at the time of the stressful event, he didn't pay attention to my 'findings' - but then we started keeping notes. It never seemed to be related to what he ate or drank, although he does watch his diet.

GV Jack said:

The best gout medicine is a booze free, vegan lifestyle. Ever hear of dinasaurs getting gout?

Having a personal and family history of gout, I have tried most everything but the afore mentioned meds.
I have an intense dislike of medications and their afterglow. I have a couple friends who take a glass of cherry juice
each day and they swear by it. I myself take cherry fruit extract and while it doesn't completely stop an attack, it
makes it easier to get rid of it. When I stopped taking it, I had the last attack which was a severe as any I've ever had.

My son gets it much worse than I and he is on Alopurinol now. The problem with that drug is that if you take it during an
attack, it really magnifies the problem. I have so many aches and pains, I'm not really sure if I'm gout free at any one time.
During the last attack on my wrist and elbow, I had to go to urgent care and the doc extracted fluid from my elbow. It was
the grossest stuff I've seen for a long time. The doc looked at it and said yep, that's Uric Acid. He put me on some crazy drug called
Prednisone which sort of helped until I got a bloody nose and he switched me to Indo, which helped greatly. I only take it in
desperation and with a Pepcid AC to help the stomach.

I try to watch my diet and drinking and limit each unless I don't. I have tried to find a trigger for the flare ups but can't put my
finger on any one thing. I do know one thing that is paramount. WATER. You must stay well hydrated to keep away Gout Man.

OK guys any info is greatly appreciated.

Wood Spinner said:

The Endo. caused my Kidney failure. Now at between 35 and 50. I take 200 mg of allopurinol daily and have been free from any attacks for about 2 years.

The problem with drugs is that if you have to have one for a problem it makes another problem that may be worse than the first one.

I agree Bill. That's why I'm hesitant to take anything for it. Has the allopurinol caused any problems? And yep, I use the Indo sparingly. If I catch it
in time, early enough, one 25mg pills taken every 8 to 10 hours with usually two or three max will usually get it.

El Gato, I have never heard of the stress factor, but I certainly believe it. I know it contributes to many other maladies so that is a distinct possibility.

I appreciate all feedback. I hate walking around with that big beaker of green fluid.

My husband had it, and I read about the cherry juice, so I bought some at 100% Trader Joes and added it to his iced tea- about quarter cherry juice 3/4 iced tea. The juice is 100% and it helped as he has not had a flare up in over 2 years. He drinks about 4-5 glasses of iced tea/day. We also cut down on red meat. Trader Joe's Just Cherry Juice Reviews & Ratings | GoodGuide

They also make this now but haven't tried it:
Trader Joe's

DH's doctor didn't believe in my stress theory, until I presented him with a diary of dates that I had been keeping - one being when he went in for hip replacement and both his knees had gout so badly that he couldn't walk and the prep nurse couldn't figure which he was in for. During the hip surgery they had to drain his knees as well.

So I try to keep the stress level down as much as possible - being here helps :) - once he got into the manana syndrome.

MIRAMAR said:

My husband had it, and I read about the cherry juice, so I bought some at 100% Trader Joes and added it to his iced tea- about quarter cherry juice 3/4 iced tea. The juice is 100% and it helped as he has not had a flare up in over 2 years. He drinks about 4-5 glasses of iced tea/day. We also cut down on red meat. Trader Joe's Just Cherry Juice Reviews & Ratings | GoodGuide

They also make this now but haven't tried it:
Trader Joe's

So basically he's drinking about 1 glass of 100% Cherry Juics per day.

Why not just drink the juice although I have heard that caffine is supposed to be good
for gout.

I'm afraid if I drank that much tea I would end up like the Lipton Indians who drowned in their teapee.

Sorry, some days I just can't help myself.

That yogurt from trader joe's sure is addicting!

GV Jack said:

I'm afraid if I drank that much tea I would end up like the Lipton Indians who drowned in their teapee.

.

Now THAT was funny...:lol:

moore_rb said:

Now THAT was funny...:lol:

Yeah GV's a real funny guy till you get him behind the wheel of a vehicle in an urban setting, then WATCH OUT !

Roberto said:

Yeah GV's a real funny guy till you get him behind the wheel of a vehicle in an urban setting, then WATCH OUT !

I should have called Rosie.

The best part was the Magistrate who told me he lived on Miracle Mile in Tucson for a couple years.

I asked him if he was a pimp there and he let out a huge laugh.

He said no, but there were a lot of them there.

Good guy, shook hands and said watch for the stop lights.

Nice of my buddy Roberto to give me screwy directions and then call the press to the station.

I think it was a set-up. Dee gave me perfect directions and voila, no tickies.

El Gato said:

DH's doctor didn't believe in my stress theory, until I presented him with a diary of dates that I had been keeping - one being when he went in for hip replacement and both his knees had gout so badly that he couldn't walk and the prep nurse couldn't figure which he was in for. During the hip surgery they had to drain his knees as well.

So I try to keep the stress level down as much as possible - being here helps :) - once he got into the manana syndrome.

Another thought.

Shrimp is high in Purines. Purines cause Gout. I for one love to eat the shrimp when I'm down there.

A few years ago, I went crazy with them and ended up with a nasty flare up in my ankle. Now I

eat my favorite shrimp sparingly. I understand Scallops are even worse in Purines.

Gout in the knees is horrible. I sympathize with DH on that one. OUCHIE

Roberto said:

Yeah GV's a real funny guy till you get him behind the wheel of a vehicle in an urban setting, then WATCH OUT !

You should talk Roberto, my knuckles were white for a week after our midnight ride to rescue the girls.

The white knuckles started when you were staring at a part of one of the girl's anatomy as I recall. Besides we did not get arrested.

Plz xplain.....

Terry C said:

Plz xplain.....

Yes Roberto...

We're all waiting with baited breath which for some strange reason smells like fish......

Roberto said:

The white knuckles started when you were staring at a part of one of the girl's anatomy as I recall. Besides we did not get arrested.

Of course not, they couldn't have arrested me for my thoughts, and besides, it was pitch black out there and you're just speculating anyway. Now for you running stop signs without a thought on our way home, I too could only speculate on that too!

GV Jack said:

Yes Roberto...

We're all waiting with baited breath which for some strange reason smells like fish......

Try brushing your teeth, maybe gargle too.

Kenny said:

Now for you running stop signs without a thought on our way home, I too could only speculate on that too!

I only go through the "Optional" stop signs. You learn about them after a few years here. I tried to train GV but he did nto listen and got busted. What does all this have to do with Gout anyway?? I just checked and it is clear that GV caused the derail.


On topic. Question for all inflicted with this: What were the first symptoms of gout you experienced?

Terry C said:

Plz xplain.....

Nope!

"Now for you running stop signs without a thought on our way home, I too could only speculate on that too."

You mean after all this time and grief I received, old holier than thou ran stop signs. On purpose!!!

Holy Cow!!! You know what? If you life long enough, the truth will out!!!!!!

Roberto said:

I only go through the "Optional" stop signs. You learn about them after a few years here. I tried to train GV but he did nto listen and got busted. What does all this have to do with Gout anyway?? I just checked and it is clear that GV caused the derail.


On topic. Question for all inflicted with this: What were the first symptoms of gout you experienced?

Answer: Severe pain in a joint. Usually starts in the toe, but can occur any joint. Almost always starts at night.

When I say pain, I mean you can't stand even having a sheet on the foot. Swelling and turns bright red. In the joint.

GV Jack said:

Answer: Severe pain in a joint. Usually starts in the toe, but can occur any joint. Almost always starts at night.

When I say pain, I mean you can't stand even having a sheet on the foot. Swelling and turns bright red. In the joint.

So the skin is very sensitive around the joint as well as pain in the joint itself?

Yes it is, but the pain is usually so severe that you really aren't interested in touching the skin.

I have had occasions where after awhile and the healing starts that it gets to be itchy. You go to itch and
whoa, I wish I hadn't done that. Generally it's nasty stuff. You may have to give up the red wine.:roll:

GV Jack said:

I have had occasions where after awhile and the healing starts that it gets to be itchy. You go to itch and
whoa, I wish I hadn't done that. Generally it's nasty stuff. You may have to give up the red wine.:roll:

I hope Roberto doesn't get it Jack. Can you imagine trying to hold a conversation with that man while he's scratching his joint with one hand, while guzzling wine with the other?

Ah yes, I recognize it now. It's not gout. It's a severe case of little blue pillitis.

How many times have I told you not to take more than three at a time.

You're much too old to try to set a world's record. Remember your heart.

I don't need no stinkin little blue pills !!