...a pick-up truck with a whole Mexican family in the open bed of the truck can go whizzing down the road no problem, but my son stops at the checkpoint in Sonoita and has to pay a $40 fine on the spot because one person in the backseat of the truck doesn't have a seat belt on? The Sonoita Revenue Enhancement Project strikes yet again... it's no wonder so many people get disgusted with this bullshit, out-and-out highway robbery. Worst part is, the people committing it are wearing a badge!
I understand your frustration Stuart, but I think it's because Mexico is still living like we did here in the US pre-1980-ish. Back in the good old days when you didn't need to use seat belts at all, when kids actually stood up in the back seat and leaned forward in between their parents, when you could ride a bike without a helmet, when babies sat on their mother's laps in the car, no warning labels on coffee cups to tell you that the coffee is "HOT", when you could walk down the street to the local corner market and buy your mother a pack of cigarettes and a bottle of beer for your father, no questions asked.
Since Mexicans are still living in that time period they are exempt from the laws. But, us gringos have to abide by those laws no matter where we are. It's all about the time warp, not the location. LOL
Now Stuart, there are several very good reasons this happens.
#1. Mexicans love US folk and want to protect them. If you get killed in a car accident, you can't come back and spend money.
The Mexican Govt. does not give one Sh__ about the Mexican People.
#2 Mexican Drivers have no training at all, no classes, no tests, so they are completely ignorent of the law and therefore are BLAMELESS. American's on the other hand are trained and tested on traffic law and therefore must be held to a higher standard.
#3 American's have the money to pay the fine and most Mexicans don't, especially if the whole family has to ride in the back of the truck.
#4 Few Mexican vehicles actually have seatbelts so how can they use them. Similar to the reason they don't have to stop at stop signs, how can they when they have no brakes ? Duuuh.
I think #3 is the most important. They stopped a friend some time ago and took his last 5 pesos as a fine, now it's hardly worth making a stop for that is it now?
A "nuisance stop" in Ajo is one thing. Being funneled through a checkpoint whose sole purpose is extracting money from gringos, rather than real safety, is something else altogether. If you're stupid enough to speed through Ajo (or Gila Bend), then you deserve a ticket. The speed limits are very clearly posted and both towns, as well as Sonoita, are known speed traps. Do the speed limit and this is not a problem.
By the way - you do NOT get points on your license for missing mudflaps, tail lights out or even a seat belt violation. In AZ, a seatbelt violation is strictly a secondary offense. In other words, you will not be pulled over for a seatbelt violation; you will only be given a ticket for it if you were pulled over for some other offense. Quote:
"In Arizona, your fines will depend on how many people in the vehicle are not wearing seat belts when you are pulled over. In most cases, the first offense will result in a $10 fine per person. Arizona is a secondary seat belt law state, though, meaning that you can’t be pulled over just for not wearing your seat belt. You have to be pulled over for another offense first."
You only get points (and possible insurance increases) from primary or MOVING violations - speeding, accidents, failure to yield, following to closely, DUI, etc.
So my point still stands - the checkpoints in Sonoita sole purpose is to extract money from gringos for chickenshit offenses via intimidation, and they only to try to extract money from gringos, not their own citizens. Total bullshit, plain and simple -- you cheerleaders can justify this nonsense in your own minds any freakin' way you want. How fast do you think there would be a HUGE uproar and cries of racism if we funneled everyone through some bullshit checkpoint on the US side and made only the Mexicans pay for some perceived minor traffic violation? Yeah, that would surely be tolerated, wouldn't it?
Why yes, yes you do. Then you mail in your cute little pink citation along with your check at some point in the future. NO MONEY IS DEMANDED ON THE SPOT WITH THE ALTERNATIVE THREAT OF BEING TAKEN TO THE POLICE STATION!!
"Mexican law requires the use of seat belts, and the refusal to use a seat belt can result in a fine. Mexican seat belt regulations require that passenger vehicles and some commercial vehicles like tour vans and taxis have seat belts. According to the World Health Organization, 62 percent of deaths caused in traffic accidents occur in 10 countries and of those 10, Mexico comes in sixth place. This is because there little driver's education and the department of transportation does not have the economic resources or manpower to enforce seat belt regulations.
Mexican Seat Belt Regulations Mexican law requires both the driver and front seat passenger to wear seat belts, but passengers in the back seat do not have to do so. Children under the age of 12 should sit in the back seat. Children under the age of five must sit in a carseat fastened by the car seat belt in the back seat.
Seat Belt Compliance Larger cities in the country like Mexico City and Monterey, which have higher municipal incomes, do a better job of enforcing seat belt laws. During special public awareness campaigns, transportation officials stop and fine drivers who are not in compliance with the law. However, enforcing seat belt regulations throughout the year is still a challenge. In other areas of Mexico, the seat belt law is rarely enforced and if drivers are not in compliance, they are very rarely fined."
First thing the hitch hiker told me when he got in my truck and saw my tint. Were going to get pulled over and I want to be wearing my seat belt. He also told me that the Federal Law also states
no texting or smoking...Yea I did donate a couple times 2 them once for speeding about .5 of a mile after crossing into mexico and I did a cali stop at a stop sign. I did get pulled over by the blue
and silver highway patrol the other day. He cussed me out 4 about 4 min. Then told me "TE VOY A DAR UN TICKET". Made me get out of the car and open the trunk, just about that time a dark
Jeep went by and he gave me my paperwork back and took off after the Jeep. Wish it had been a red Jeep. Some days are good days....
Stuart, They changed the seatbelt law recently, I believe it was early May. I got pulled over in Buckeye on my way to PP Memorial day weekend for not wearing it. The only reason I was in Buckeye was that the interstate was backed up east of Jackrabbit for some reason. The fine was 38 bucks. I'm staying the h#$$ out of Buckeye now! LOL!
I've been thru that checkpoint 3 times now and I probably was not wearing my seatbelt a couple of them. I'm notorious for not wearing it. I wasn't fined. I have no idea.........Maybe others will chime in if something has happened to them. Maybe Rosie can check it out for us.......
The only time they stopped me at the checkpoint (Sonoita....leaving town) the police told me to fasten the seat belt....I don't recall why I didn't have it on that particular instance....there was no fine.
Face it folks, when you pay on the spot it is called a bribe. There are signs (with pictures) saying buckle up. We are all in a hurry when we go to RP and would rather pay the bribe. I have been asked for up to $100.00 but always payed twenty or "lets go see the judge". Sorry the kids got stopped, that really sucks' but we need to educate our own to the corruption. Maybe we should all go to the station and stop paying bribes but this is like the good ol' USA in the 50's. A little vigorish goes a long way to. It's not the laws that are corrupt, it is certain individuals that need to be reported to someone who cares.
My experience is that if you don't pay on the spot and ask to go to the judge they will walk away immediately 90% of the time. Look at it this way, if they are in court they can't collect new fines and there is no extra $$ for sitting in court!! The other 10%, you go see the judge and pay a fine. No biggie.
You guy's have all the fun! The only ticket, or monies paid by me in any way in Mexico was my $25 dollar fine for "going to fast" and hitting the back of a truck down Santo Tomas way... After I paid the fine at the station, I gave the cop $10 for the use of his cell phone. That was not a bribe, it was consideration, as I was told that those guy's had to pay for their own phone's down that way.
Hey, hey, I'm not the one that put the tire skid marks in my driveway !! The other night I was side by side with a Mini Cooper, hauling down Sinaloa toward Fremont. The mighty Titan was roaring, as we crested the hill we were faced with a set of headlights coming up the hill right toward the Mini. I shut the Titan down and hooked the first right at the bottom of the hill towards my house, doglegged then up to the gate and guess who followed me home??!?? The cop says, "I know the other driver of the Mini, Jimmi, I just wanted to make sure you got home alright" !! Ha, Jimmi says he never saw the truck coming up the hill. No money passed hands either.
Chari, of all people to not wear a seatbelt.............shame on you. Although I did notice it (your lack of using one!) when we were out and about that one day. But you, nor anyone else, scared me that day, so all was good!!!! (I didn't use mine cuz you didn't use yours.....I know, shame on me!) LOL!!! Hell, your Jeep even made it rain coins for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know........ I explained in a different thread how it rubs my neck raw. I've tried adjusting it, the little lap clip thingee, a sheepskin cover, to no avail. I usually wear the bottom part, tho. Doesn't that count for something? :mrgreen::mrgreen:
Hey Chari....they sell these "clippee thingies" that clip on to both belts and you can then adjust how far over the shoulder belt is....it pulls it away from your neck area.
Yeah Joe, that's what I have. But, being a "fluffy girl", the seat belt is pretty much maxed out and when I put the clippee thingee on, it pops off pretty quick. I don't know...........
Yeah Joe, that's what I have. But, being a "fluffy girl", the seat belt is pretty much maxed out and when I put the clippee thingee on, it pops off pretty quick. I don't know...........
Yes, but I am told it is broken. The airbag light came on a few months ago and I took it in to have the codes read. They said it would be a LOT of money to fix. Now, I know Bill asked me what my life was worth in another thread so I guess I'm gonna get beat up now. I am going to get the seat belt exptender and look into the harness.........
Yes, but I am told it is broken. The airbag light came on a few months ago and I took it in to have the codes read. They said it would be a LOT of money to fix. Now, I know Bill asked me what my life was worth in another thread so I guess I'm gonna get beat up now. I am going to get the seat belt exptender and look into the harness.........
Tee hee! Good! And I think that was Joe who asked you what your life was worth...now you are beginning to see what it is worth to us!
Stuart, They changed the seatbelt law recently, I believe it was early May. I got pulled over in Buckeye on my way to PP Memorial day weekend for not wearing it. The only reason I was in Buckeye was that the interstate was backed up east of Jackrabbit for some reason. The fine was 38 bucks. I'm staying the h#$$ out of Buckeye now! LOL!
I've been thru that checkpoint 3 times now and I probably was not wearing my seatbelt a couple of them. I'm notorious for not wearing it. I wasn't fined. I have no idea.........Maybe others will chime in if something has happened to them. Maybe Rosie can check it out for us.......
Sorry Chari.I did not mean a cj jeep, A red Sherockee one.
OK, Playa,
no harm, no foul. Altho it's a TJ. That means I have A/C, power steering and brakes, coilovers and a 6 speaker stereo system. Plus all the toughness of a CJ. What more could a girl want?
Really? What model did you have? Mine's a Sport. Altho she was also a special production that year that came with Dana 44's, 373 gears, chrome taillight and headlight covers and chrome hood latches She was also painted with a special paint color called Chili Pepper red. I think they did that with the '99 Cherokees, too.......
Now her color is Chili Pepper scratch and dent and Sunburn.... LOL!
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I guess they had Chili Pepper Red in 98 too. Behind my Jeep is the little estuary that's about 13 miles north (driving on the beach) from Jerry's place in Los Dunas.
It seems to me they did. I think I was told it was 98 and 99. Do you have Dana 44's and 373 gears? The normal things for that year were Dana 30's and 305 gears.
Mine was also a Sport...Dana 44's but no A/C! And it was Chili Pepper Red. Fun buggy! Her name was Della, as in Della Street. Her nickname was Red.:cruisin:
They manufacture differentials for trucks and off road vehicles. Diffs come in different sizes according to application. The smaller the number of splines, the weaker it is. Jeeps come with 30,35 or very few 44's. To get a factory TJ with 44's in it is a score! If you want a 60, you usually have to upgrade after you get your vehicle. 30 and 35's are usually sufficient for light 4 wheeling. 44's are strong enough for my Jeep. I am not a crazy rock racer or anything like that. I did break 2 30's when I had my Cherokee, but haven't had any breakage with my 44's.
Mine's Li'l Missy. Did you have chrome light covers and 373 gears?
No chrome light covers and I don't know about the gears...you are way too detailed for somebody like me! I just know I loved driving it! And I got places no normal vehicle could go!:sunny:
Yeah, most people fear the narcos while I tend to fear the man with the badge in Mexico.
Whether you're aware of it or not, there is a huge segment of the American population (most of them poor or minorities) who fear the man with the badge in the U.S. The news media is full of example of police abuse of power and the general public shrugs it off.
I was 10 years old when my mom (all 5'3" 100lbs of her) was yanked out of the driver's seat of our car by a police officer and smacked around for being "a smartass Mexican". After they used her for a punching bag they arrested her for assault on an officer, inciting a riot (she had yelled to bystanders to please help keep us safe), and resisting arrest. The next day she was told that if she didn't sue the department they'd drop all charges against her.
In the States you guys live very insulated from what is happening in your own cities and are therefore even further removed from what happens around the country. Just because it hasn't happened to you, don't think that police abuse and corruption aren't running rampant there.
Rosy, sorry to hear about what happened to your Mom- I'm sure that was terrible to witness at age 10. You said something that made me think twice: "Just because it hasn't happened to you, don't think that police abuse and corruption aren't running rampant there". I said that once to you regarding Rodger Clifton taking other people's money, and you said he seems like a wonderful person and a good friend, and you won't listen to rumors or believe what other people say about him. Remember, just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it didn't happen or it won't happen to you.
Rosy, sorry to hear about what happened to your Mom- I'm sure that was terrible to witness at age 10. You said something that made me think twice: "Just because it hasn't happened to you, don't think that police abuse and corruption aren't running rampant there". I said that once to you regarding Rodger Clifton taking other people's money, and you said he seems like a wonderful person and a good friend, and you won't listen to rumors or believe what other people say about him. Remember, just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it didn't happen or it won't happen to you.
There must've been something lost in the translation, Miramar. I never said I wouldn't listen to rumors or that I disbelieve what people say. I said I would report on the positive things I know about him and react to that, because he has done me no harm and has in fact been generous in my presence. I wish he'd give more so I could write about it more. Also, he happens to be a downright pleasant and entertaining person who has been decent to me. As for what might happen to me, well everyone on this forum knows that it has already happened.
Rosie, Here's what you said about Rodger:
"I don't happen to believe that rumors about business practices should negate charity/social/civic contributions. Nor do they, for me personally, cancel out admirable traits or delightful and entertaining personalities. Rodger and his wife are people I know personally and I can attest to their kindness and generosity. And they are fun. Knowing them has been a blessing."
My point is if I used your logic: I have had nothing but wonderful experiences with police officers, so even though someone else has been beaten up by the police, I choose to ignore it because it hasn't happened to me. (By the way, I don't choose to ignore police violence) I felt you chose to ignore what I said about getting ripped off because he was such a nice guy. Guess you had to be in Tucson in 1981-1982 to understand. If he's that great of a guy he can repay us with- no interest charged! That's all I'm going to say about this matter because someone else wrote (El Semental- La Perla thread) that he doesn't play nice.
I see that you got a nice ad from Clifton's FMI so I guess that counts for something.
I don't know if I had the ad back when Miramar wrote to me, but it doesn't factor in. At the time, I had written about the Cliftons' donation to the children of RP. I still say that whatever he's done doesn't negate that generosity. I think you pointing to the ad is a bit cheesy. He's paying for his visibility and we're delivering. Nothing more, nothing less. I got this far without kissing any asses I didn't feel inclined to kiss.
It's a business and we make money from ads. I'd take Alejandro Portugal as a client and run his ads if he wanted it.
Rosie, Here's what you said about Rodger:
"I don't happen to believe that rumors about business practices should negate charity/social/civic contributions. Nor do they, for me personally, cancel out admirable traits or delightful and entertaining personalities. Rodger and his wife are people I know personally and I can attest to their kindness and generosity. And they are fun. Knowing them has been a blessing."
My point is if I used your logic: I have had nothing but wonderful experiences with police officers, so even though someone else has been beaten up by the police, I choose to ignore it because it hasn't happened to me. (By the way, I don't choose to ignore police violence) I felt you chose to ignore what I said about getting ripped off because he was such a nice guy. Guess you had to be in Tucson in 1981-1982 to understand. If he's that great of a guy he can repay us with- no interest charged! That's all I'm going to say about this matter because someone else wrote (El Semental- La Perla thread) that he doesn't play nice.
Look, you're making my point for me. If some police are bad, that doesn't negate that most are good, right? Once more I'm backed into a corner, answering for not wanting to pull the handle on someone because of his controversial baggage. Last time it was Steve Schwab, remember? Geez...I got accused of covering for him and we're not even on speaking terms. All because I want to be fair...to Schwab, Clifton, you, everyone. If I operate the RPNO with the axes we have to grind, the whole thing would be mighty tedious. Even my lawsuit against Martinez has never been mentioned there. Why? Because I don't think that's what that tool is for.
I told you back when you wrote to me that I'm sorry I disappointed you. I can only be sorry for what I do, not for what Clifton has done to you. I empathize. A lot of people have gotten cheated and I wish that weren't the case. I hope someday all the cheaters...no matter who they are...get what's coming to them. But don't hold me or the RPNO to an impossible standard. After all, it is a business and I'm running that show alone without any backup. Anyone here who thinks I'm getting rich with it must not know how tough collections are these days.
Right, but if I KNEW a police officer had beaten up someone, but not me, I wouldn't go around saying what a great person he was, that he was kind and generous, and gave money to charity, making him a great person. Anyway, I'm not disappointed, I just get offended when I see his picture on your website or Rocky Point Times saying how great he is because he gives (his??) money to charity. I'm sure there are hundreds of fantastic people in Penasco doing great things that you can write about. I don't expect you to write articles about what he's done, we've moved on, but I hope I don't see Berney Madoff on the cover of Rocky Point Times any time soon! Not that I'm equating what one person did was anything remotely close to the latter, so don't take it that way, I'm just making a point. (By the way, it blew me away when Joe Bonano died in Tucson and ALL the state political figures (Democrat and Republican) were at the funeral talking about what a great guy he was and the great charity work he did, failing to mention his Mafia connections. Go figure. Again, not that I'm equating what one person did was anything remotely close to the latter.)
I hope I don't see Berney Madoff on the cover of Rocky Point Times any time soon! Not that I'm equating what one person did was anything remotely close to the latter, so don't take it that way, I'm just making a point. (By the way, it blew me away when Joe Bonano died in Tucson and ALL the state political figures (Democrat and Republican) were at the funeral talking about what a great guy he was and the great charity work he did, failing to mention his Mafia connections. Go figure. Again, not that I'm equating what one person did was anything remotely close to the latter.)
Miramar, you got a chuckle out of me with that Bernie Madoff comment. Oh and by the way, my publication is the ROCKY POINT NEWS ONLINE Not the Rocky Point Times.
Let's hope Rodger doesn't make any big donations in the near future so I won't have to write about it...just kidding.
Rosy Sez: "I think you pointing to the ad is a bit cheesy. He's paying for his visibility and we're delivering. Nothing more, nothing less. I got this far without kissing any asses I didn't feel inclined to kiss.
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Hey, hey , hey, cheesy now! I didn't accept or run the ad. It's a matter of public record that the ad is there. I'm a bad boy for pointing out what YOU did ?? Don't kill the messenger. Yeah, yeah, it's the context but the context was how well he treats you and what a great guy you think he is for that reason. Yes it's business and you've got to protect you income, ass kissing does not have to enter in.
Yes, only the asses you are inclined to kiss.
You have made it clear that you have been taken advantage buy some unscrupulous person, how it made you feel and what you think of them for that. What would you say to someone who defends and supports the person that stole from you as an upstanding citizen because 'they are fun to be with' ?? Take his ad money and shut up about it !!
Rosy Sez: "I think you pointing to the ad is a bit cheesy. He's paying for his visibility and we're delivering. Nothing more, nothing less. I got this far without kissing any asses I didn't feel inclined to kiss.
"
Hey, hey , hey, cheesy now! I didn't accept or run the ad. It's a matter of public record that the ad is there. I'm a bad boy for pointing out what YOU did ?? Don't kill the messenger. Yeah, yeah, it's the context but the context was how well he treats you and what a great guy you think he is for that reason. Yes it's business and you've got to protect you income, ass kissing does not have to enter in.
Yes, only the asses you are inclined to kiss.
You have made it clear that you have been taken advantage buy some unscrupulous person, how it made you feel and what you think of them for that. What would you say to someone who defends and supports the person that stole from you as an upstanding citizen because 'they are fun to be with' ?? Take his ad money and shut up about it !!
First of all, it is no secret that the ad is there. I take issue with the way you snidely throw it out as if to imply that the reason I wrote about him is because he has an ad. That was what was cheesy.
I've had lots of people say that Martinez is a good guy...some of them right here on this forum. I let them know that isn't my experience and move on. Everyone has someone who likes them. I practice what I preach whether you believe it or not. I have friends who are friendly with Martinez and I don't feel bad about it. I also don't berate my friends and try to browbeat them into seeing other people the way I see them. Geez...what part of this is so hard to understand?
Now, getting back to our regularly scheduled thread of bad cops, let me tell you my story. I was barely 16 and newly licensed. My boyfriend and I had been invited to a party in Paradise Valley. My boyfriend was Mexican, I mean from Mexico Mexican. He wrecked his ATC, the dreaded and dangerous 3 wheeler, the afternoon of the party. This was a big deal party, Paradise Valley social big deal. They were HIS friends! He had to have over a hundred stitches in his right leg, he pretty much peeled all the skin off of it. He couldn't drive so I went and picked him up. He couldn't bend his leg so he had to lay across the back seat. He wasn't exactly sure where the party was so he was directing me and we kept having to turn around and look for the right road. All of a sudden there were police lights in my mirror so I pull over not sure of what I had done. The next thing I know, there were 4 cops around the car! 2 of 'em yanked the back doors open and pointed their guns at my boyfriend, yelling all the usual stuff! I started screaming "don't shoot him, what's going on, whats the matter with you, what are you doing? One of 'em said, "it's all right. You are safe now" I said, safe from what, what are you talking about, this is my BOYFRIEND! One of 'em said, "your boyfriend? What's a nice pretty white girl like you doing with this s#$c?" I was stunned! My first impulse was to slap him, I was so offended. And heartsick. They thought I was being kidnapped because he was brown and I was white! I had always been taught that police could be trusted. That was the end of that. When I was by myself or with all white friends, I was never harrassed. Not so when I was with my Mexican friends. Yes, there was and still is a double standard. I have more stories.........
Rosie Sez: "I take issue with the way you snidely throw it out as if to imply that"
I don' t see any thing sneaky in how I said it, seems pretty straight forward and open to me. Business is business.
Rosie Sez; "what part of this is so hard to understand?"
What part are you having a problem with Rosie? It's pretty clear to most of us I think. What's the problem?
Advertorials are the bread and butter of small publications, we all know that. Who cares??
First of all, snide and sneaky are two completely different words with different meanings. You've always seemed, at the very least, somewhat literate, so please look them up. And then you pull that "clear to all of us" crap. If you want to undermine my work, then speak for yourself.
Neither Steve Schwab nor Jonni Francis are chums of mine and I have written good things about both of them in the past and would do so again in the future if they did anything to write about. And if you think larger publications do anything differently, then you're not as smart as you try to sound.
I'm done with you. Not because you don't like what I do, but because you're just cynical and pretentious...oh yea...and snide.
P.S. You work at Twin Dolphins and you look down on what I do? Geez...
Thanks for all the laughs, you're way off in left field about what's going on in my thinking. Why would anyone want to undermine your work ?? What do Steve Schwabe or Jonni Francis have to do with anything? Cynical, absolutely, what's wrong with that? Yeah I said, advertorials are common in all small publications, what's the point? You give me an Ad and I'll write a story.
Rosie Sez: P.S. You work at Twin Dolphins and you look down on what I do? Geez...
Ha, ha, ha very very snide !!! If you got something to say say it, don't imply, don't be indirect, don't be sneaky. You're pretty good at deflecting a comment and coloring your response in a negative manner creatng an impression without actually saying anything direct !! Easy to deny that way.
Snide: "Sneakily derogatory" Websters II New Riverside Dictionary.
That took me to a site where dog's are playing poker Jerry. Would I be looking for dog poop then?
na i just can't get enough of pictures of dogs playing poker. Jonni francis was the agent on a property owned by a difficult character (and this is me talking) in Santo Tomas.She had the most amazing orange skin tone. If you put her head in a juicer and squeezed unless she gave back some of her commissions "earned" on selling overpriced condos to Mesa area suckers you would have cup of orangery delight or your `15k back!
(Neither Steve Schwab nor Jonni Francis are chums of mine)
Roberto, heres a good start for the flaky realtor thread we talked about starting, we are still missing a few.
(Neither Steve Schwab nor Jonni Francis are chums of mine)
Roberto, heres a good start for the flaky realtor thread we talked about starting, we are still missing a few.
Maybe it's time to change Puerto Penasco's luck by going back in history to the Mayans and sacrifice a Realtor to the Pinacate Volcano God....hell it could be a yearly event timed with Bike week.......the Realty Team member with the most complaints is the honored guest
Maybe it's time to change Puerto Penasco's luck by going back in history to the Mayans and sacrifice a Realtor to the Pinacate Volcano God....hell it could be a yearly event timed with Bike week.......the Realty Team member with the most complaints is the honored guest
The Mayans sacrificed beautiful women you dont think it would piss off the Volcano God if you chucked him a realtor.
na i just can't get enough of pictures of dogs playing poker. Jonni francis was the agent on a property owned by a difficult character (and this is me talking) in Santo Tomas.She had the most amazing orange skin tone. If you put her head in a juicer and squeezed unless she gave back some of her commissions "earned" on selling overpriced condos to Mesa area suckers you would have cup of orangery delight or your `15k back!
She likes wine and cheese parties, stick her head in a grape press and see if she "whines"
several drug lords in mexico are some of the largest contributors to charitable organizations, maybe someone should write a positive article on their kind deeds.
(Neither Steve Schwab nor Jonni Francis are chums of mine)
Roberto, heres a good start for the flaky realtor thread we talked about starting, we are still missing a few.
Go for it Lucky !! Here's your chance. Who do yo think is missing??
She likes wine and cheese parties, stick her head in a grape press and see if she "whines"
You guys are ruthless. Jonni Francis is also someone with a generous and compassionate side. I appreciate that my start in Penasco was easier thanks to her.
several drug lords in mexico are some of the largest contributors to charitable organizations, maybe someone should write a positive article on their kind deeds.
You're ridiculous. That I write about the contributions of people in this town that others don't like is just too bad. With the exception of Clifton, none of them advertise with me and yet they get the same treatment. I simply do not judge people and take their noteworthy activities at face value.
A couple of you continue to try to beat me over the head with Ramon Martinez, but even that doesn't change anything. I've already gone on the record as saying that I understand completely why some might think he has value as a person (even though I disagree).
Since my friend HAPPY:lobster: isn't here to say it (and yes he has "has value as a person" even though some might disagree) you've been HOOKED Rosie,:gofish:, line and sinker.
Since my friend HAPPY:lobster: isn't here to say it (and yes he has "has value as a person" even though some might disagree) you've been HOOKED Rosie,:gofish:, line and sinker.
I know why that happened...because I've been hanging out on the Fishing Forum!!
Believe me, I've thought about learning to fish. At least going out once and writing about it.
If you write that, you should definately include a description of the locals fishin with a coke can, some old line, a weight, a hook and bait. Reels, boats, we don't need no stinkin reels or boats.
Interesting how this thread drifted from seat belts to the discussion of the character of two real estate heavies. Roger Clifton was very close to Ramon Martinez during Martinez' term as Mayor of Puerto Penasco. Martinez learned everything he knows about real estate from Roger Clifton.
