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El Nino...Jellyfish...Hurricane Nora 1997...Hurricane Joanne 1972...Claudia 1962

Started by azdiva · Jun 23, 2010 · 33 replies
azdiva
22" inches of rain, 10 ft waves in Penasco. This may be another omen.
Here's some good links for historical storms. Of course any info from old timers can be invaluable.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1962_Pacific_hurricane_season

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baja_California_Peninsula_hurricanes

http://www.bajainsider.com/weather/hurricanes/historic_hurricanes.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Pacific_hurricane_season#Hurricane_Joanne
GringoZona
So, in summary... (sorry, can't read your links at the moment!)
mexicoruss
I'm lost on this one
GringoZona
Are you making a correlation between the early appearance of the jellyfish, the heavy winds and waves Penasco has had recently, and other events buried in these articles pointing towards another hurricane reaching the Penasco shores?
azfish
So when is the next storm going to hit????
Ladyjeeper
You forgot Eduardo, Sept. '76. That was a cool storm!
mis2810
Why so cryptic with this thread?
Seadweller
the storm that came about a week after Nora and was during a high tide was one to remember... If I recall there were about 3 deaths attributed to it when several pangas were lost at sea...

and the waves washed everything from the bottom floor of Sr. Amigos and Flavios out into the street... also tore up the sidewalks down in front of what was then Linda Vista Restaurant and now is where the Thirsty Parrot is located...
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azdiva
correlation of events due to el nino

I'm resarching el nino events and former hurricanes that have affected Penasco in the past.
There isn't alot of information available before 1950. There are weather events recorded from
late 1800's from Yuma and Phoenix. Especially when Yuma received 21" on rain in 24 hrs on
a september day. Researchers know a little more about the warming of the eastern pacific waters
and the cause and effect relationship. Hurricanes no doubt have affected Penasco in the past, this
might be the year of the big one. Also RP is a lot more developed and probably that much more exposed.
I'm also thinking about the swarm of daily occurance earthquakes in the Colo Delta region, so far over
600 recorded in one year. Plywood, Duct tape, tarps, water, bleach and batteries would be wise to have
in storage.
mis2810
azdiva - What are your plans for December 21, 2012?
GringoZona
azdiva said:
Plywood, Duct tape, tarps, water, bleach and batteries would be wise to have
in storage.


Ahhh, azdiva is opening an Ace Hardware in Penasco. Sweet! Will come in handy the next time I blow out a beach chair.
azdiva
mis2810 said:
azdiva - What are your plans for December 21, 2012?


Probably enjoying the sunset from my 2nd or 3rd floor Condo I purchased for 25K-35K since the
elevator stopped working in 2011.
rockyptjoe
GringoZona said:
Ahhh, azdiva is opening an Ace Hardware in Penasco. Sweet! Will come in handy the next time I blow out a beach chair.

There's an Ace Hardware there already!!!
GringoZona
Oh, crap! I thought I had dreamt that on my last trip. Good to know.
GringoZona
I haven't had time to bone-up on why, but everyone I've spoken to who has lived in Tucson for a reasonable amount of time will agree that this is the windiest year we've ever had. Just ridiculous sustained gusts for hours on end...A calm day is out of the norm. Guess I could google this stuff...
mis2810
GringoZona, now that you mention it, it has been really windy in Phoenix as well. Freaky weird windy on certain days. The first Sunday in May we had invited some friends over for a carne asada and we had to move inside the wind was so bad. On some days it's even rattled the windows. Very strange.
Stuart
Y'all should read the Fishing Forum more often. I've done nothing but whine about the wind since last fall. It's definitely been outside the normal pattern and trying to find an open window to fish has been difficult at best, at least using Buoyweather and prediction tools. The prediction tools have been out of whack and can't keep up with it. You have to BE THERE, go down to the beach and see what the wind and waves look like before you make a decision to go out or not. Even then, there's been some weird patterns where my buddies call on the radio and say they're sitting in 4 ft. seas to the south, while I'm sitting on glass-flat water to the west. Very odd.
mis2810
So what does it all mean?
Stuart
mis2810 said:
So what does it all mean?


It means I didn't get to go fishing many times when I wanted to, that's what it means!! :aagh:

In the grand scheme of things, who knows? Call 1-800-GLB-WARM and ask for Al Gore. I'm sure he has lots of theories based on cherry-picked data that he can expound upon.

In my limited view of things (I'm not a scientist, I just play one here on the forum), the jet stream shifted significantly this year due to El Nino conditions and brought us a lot more wind and rain than we would see in our normal weather pattern here in the Southwest. I have read that the El Nino condition has started to wane, so come fall/winter, we may return to our more normal weather pattern.

Interesting read this morning concerning the Easter 7.2 earthquake centered in Mexicali - it actually shifted the Earth's crust up to 10 feet in some places in Mexico. There was a 31 inch shift most everywhere else. This was measured by satellites. Good news for us in AZ! California is that much closer to falling into the ocean! Beachfront property ahoy!! :-D
jmcdtucson
Interesting. We saw lots of jellyfish when there June 12th-15th.

But El Nino is officially gone. Water temps have reverted to neutral conditions. There is some evidence it will flip to La Nina. This is all according the National Weather Service El Nino bulletin.
mexicoruss
jmcdtucson said:
Interesting. We saw lots of jellyfish when there June 12th-15th.

But El Nino is officially gone. Water temps have reverted to neutral conditions. There is some evidence it will flip to La Nina. This is all according the National Weather Service El Nino bulletin.


We went swimming the other day in Cholla and saw no jellies at all!
GringoZona
Yes, I keep checking out the temps on http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/76061.html at "Casa Weez," and have been quite amazed at the diff between Tucson & Penasco. At 4:45PM yesterday it was 89 in Penasco and anywhere from 104 to 107 in Tucson. Usually we're only a few degrees different, sometimes higher, sometimes lower.

So, yeah, bring it on!
Terry C
Here is the graph chart at casa weez's live weather station. It's in Playa La Jolla

http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=ISONORAP1
Last edited: Jun 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM
mis2810
I've been watching the temps too, and I kept thinking maybe it was just The Weather Channel App on my iphone. The temps seem really low compared to Tucson and Phoenix. It's going to be 112 today in Phoenix!
GringoZona
Yeah, mis2810, I hear ya'--back in the day the AZ Daily Star used to run these insane predictions for Penasco that were like 25 degrees off. I'd go down there in August (knowing full well that it'd be over 100) and would laugh as I sat at Manny's reading that morning's edition of the Star forecasting the high as 85 degrees and it'd be about 106. I was convinced it was to appease those travel agencies that ran ads in the Sunday Travel section.

This is before most people had internet access at home, mind you.
Last edited: Jun 24, 2010 at 10:59 AM
MIRAMAR
On Sunday at 2:00, it was 84 degrees on the beach! I think the high was 87- the weather was perfect.
Ladyjeeper
Yea, I was on the beach Sunday under an EZ up thinking that I would just stay there and never leave.........3 more months!!!!!:woo::woo::woo::woo:
kelly
you guys are scaring me, I am coming with my kids and dogs thursday the 29 till monday 3. jeez we just wanna snorkel and swim. I have been waiting since I came home in in july to come back... i am still coming no matter what. hope its beautiful. my mom and dad had a condo for ten years in the 90s, cant remember any time it wasnt better than home!!!!!
bailey
The posts before yours are all old...from June 2010. You will be fine I was there this past weekend and it was wonderful
just a little warm.
MIRAMAR
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/ep201109_5day.html


Looks like they're predicting the hurricane to turn west again
Mexico Joe
Climate change
93BLAZER
Stuart said:
It means I didn't get to go fishing many times when I wanted to, that's what it means!! :aagh:

In the grand scheme of things, who knows? Call 1-800-GLB-WARM and ask for Al Gore. I'm sure he has lots of theories based on cherry-picked data that he can expound upon.

In my limited view of things (I'm not a scientist, I just play one here on the forum), the jet stream shifted significantly this year due to El Nino conditions and brought us a lot more wind and rain than we would see in our normal weather pattern here in the Southwest. I have read that the El Nino condition has started to wane, so come fall/winter, we may return to our more normal weather pattern.

Interesting read this morning concerning the Easter 7.2 earthquake centered in Mexicali - it actually shifted the Earth's crust up to 10 feet in some places in Mexico. There was a 31 inch shift most everywhere else. This was measured by satellites. Good news for us in AZ! California is that much closer to falling into the ocean! Beachfront property ahoy!! :-D


Where is this rain and wind you speak of. I for one, in Goodyear can remember one day with any significant rainfall since April.
93BLAZER
bailey said:
The posts before yours are all old...from June 2010. You will be fine I was there this past weekend and it was wonderful
just a little warm.



Christ... didnt even see that. Disregard.
azfish
The storm is going to take RP right off the map, every clam will be beached, homes will be floating out to sea.
I think I'll come down for the fun.
People are calling it the perfect storm of Mexico.