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Hot Rod Ford

Started by Jungle Jim · May 21, 2022 · 66 replies
Jungle Jim
Hey Joe.........

Yesterday I ordered my 2023 F-150 Ford Raptor R Pick Up truck.

I am #3 from our local Ford dealer. Comes with the $27,000.00 Predator 5.2L V8 at 760 HP, the 37" wheel/tire/lift package and the coil spring suspension front and rear.

Don't have a build sheet on it yet so don't have any idea of other options. The main thing was to get my name on one soon to be on the assembly line.

Even though the Mustang GT500 with the 5.2L engine is rated for almost 200 mph that is obviously a little speedy for a truck. Word out is that the truck may be rated for 140 mph which is not that big of a deal since my current 2017 Raptor easily does 135 mph. Which makes our drive from Yuma to Mirador in just over two hours.

Any input?

JJ
OurForever
JJ. I fully support your Ford facts. However as an old school jeeper and modern day GM guy. I have to love/hate you!

Those Raptors are amazing! Pick me up in Mirador and I'll buy us a beer or 9!
Jungle Jim
O.F...

You don't know who I am do you!

My business is WWW.WILLYSJEEPPARTS.COM here in Yuma. All we do is "old school" 1940 thru 1968. Besides my Wrangler Rubicons I have daily drivers to include a 1947 Willys CJ-2A and a 1962 Willys Utility Station Wagon. Maybe forty more in storage.

Last GM product that I owned was a brand new 1970 Blazer. When the right rear wheel fell off on the way to Moab it went south with the drum, hub and entire rear axle shaft! Last GM for me EVER! The only thing that held it on in the diff was a 2" diameter snap ring.

I will be in Mirador next Thursday. Will be doing a Jeep beach run out at Salinas Point during the weekend. Let me know if you want to tag along.

JJ
Last edited: May 22, 2022 at 1:51 PM
joanC
"You don't know who I am do you!"

Last time we heard that arrogant line was by Harvey Weinstein while being hauled away in handcuffs.

No, most everyone here has no idea who you are. I guess no one cared. It never struck us as important.

If you learn the identity of OurForever and numerous other folks on this site you will be surprised.
Jungle Jim
"They killed Kenny"

We all thought you were another body count from the scamdemic. So Kenny, you must be doing a makeover just like Jerry did.

Anyway most of us here have a few personal details posted in our "Account Details" when someone clicks on your emoji, unless of course you are hiding something. But then again you just might be Jerry with another account.

JJ
Mexico Joe
Jesus christ this forum is getting rowdy! Howdy howdy let's get rowdy!
OurForever
JJ, I love those old jeeps! I just recently bought my newest Jeep, it is a 1995 YJ. Not sure why I bought it, but felt like I needed to have it! Everything else is mid 70s to 80s. I've made the Moab trip several times. Love going out there.

Can't decipher if learning my identity is good or bad! I'm pretty fun to be around. Or at least the voices in my head tell me that!! Lol
dirtsurfer
I just want a Raptor. Always have. My wife has a Mustang Mach e4 which is the fastest vehicle I have ever been in but I am a truck guy.
Jungle Jim
So OF...........

Do you keep a Jeep in PP? I always keep one of my TJ Rubicons down there. As I mentioned earlier I'll be down for four or five days next weekend if you want to tag along. There will some really big tides so plan on a surf casting rig to maybe snatch a corvina or two for the dinner plate. We will be poking around the enormous shell middens at Salinas Point made from thousands of years of oysters, clams, murexes and Cortez Conchs hauled up by the long gone Tepoca tribe that paddled out in their reed canoes to free dive for them back in the good old days.

As for identifying yourself on this or any other forum now days, you can absolutely count on a negative hate filled response related to ANY subject that you might bring up. Case in point: joanC above. He, she or it is so full of scalding acidic hateful piss that it probably flows from every pore on it's body. Being a "real estate agent" has it's draw backs especially when the people that you ripped off would just die to find out more about you. At least the used car salesmen in their Hawaiian shits and onion picker "cowboy" hats can make a quick retreat into the head at the dealership.

So another related subject..........has anyone heard anything from my "buddy" Kenny? The last time I saw him was at the PP Sam's Club parking lot maybe two years ago. He just stood there glaring at me with pure bloody hate in his eyes. Never had the balls to walk up at chat with me as I was guarding my open Jeep as the wife was in the store.

So there joanC, the "jig is up" with you, as more than likely your real name is Butterfield as in the Brill Creamed cabeza guy with your signature triple XXXL luau shirts from Big Lots.

And by the way joanC................UP YOURS!

JJ
Old55
Congrats ! …Nice truck and putting the accessories price tag in the post…classy……to me a shitload of money for a truck when useful work is in the rear view mirror….that wasn't Kenny but funny he is in your head now. By the way now he thinks he beat the shit out of the wrong guy at Sams Club and is really sad .II hope to drag him out of the mountains to South Carolina this coming year.Our buddy bought one of these to bounce up and down the coast.https://www.scoutboats.com/model/251-xss/
Last edited: May 22, 2022 at 4:23 PM
Jungle Jim
Hey Jerry......

The price of the new V8 is not an accessory as it is the standard engine on the new Raptor R. That price is the cost of the crate engine from Ford Performance.

Funny thing on your post about Kenny's Scout boat. That was my last boat before my current Sea Pro. It was a 19 footer with a center console and T-top.

The wettest boat I've ever owned and appropriately named "Wet Willy". It had a Yamaha 250 V-6 four stroke and could get me to Isla San Jorge in under an hour out of the port. Even with that engine I never felt safe as once it seized up with a half mile of monofilament gill net wrapped around the prop and another time I hit a wood pallet out there at speed causing a sudden prop stoppage. Try cranking that 250 with your lawn mower pull cord! Almost killed me each time. The only safe way to approach the Gulf is with twins like I have now.

As for a "work truck" I do have a new Ford F-350 4x4 diesel dually crew cab with the 22,000 lb. tow package that can haul anything at 100 mph. That's the truck I was driving last July when we stopped at Bowie to look you up.

JJ
Petrose
I know who JJ is, he saved my ass once. Thank you again sir...
Perry Apfelbeck
Jungle Jim said:

So OF...........

Do you keep a Jeep in PP? I always keep one of my TJ Rubicons down there. As I mentioned earlier I'll be down for four or five days next weekend if you want to tag along. There will some really big tides so plan on a surf casting rig to maybe snatch a corvina or two for the dinner plate. We will be poking around the enormous shell middens at Salinas Point made from thousands of years of oysters, clams, murexes and Cortez Conchs hauled up by the long gone Tepoca tribe that paddled out in their reed canoes to free dive for them back in the good old days.

As for identifying yourself on this or any other forum now days, you can absolutely count on a negative hate filled response related to ANY subject that you might bring up. Case in point: joanC above. He, she or it is so full of scalding acidic hateful piss that it probably flows from every pore on it's body. Being a "real estate agent" has it's draw backs especially when the people that you ripped off would just die to find out more about you. At least the used car salesmen in their Hawaiian shits and onion picker "cowboy" hats can make a quick retreat into the head at the dealership.

So another related subject..........has anyone heard anything from my "buddy" Kenny? The last time I saw him was at the PP Sam's Club parking lot maybe two years ago. He just stood there glaring at me with pure bloody hate in his eyes. Never had the balls to walk up at chat with me as I was guarding my open Jeep as the wife was in the store.

So there joanC, the "jig is up" with you, as more than likely your real name is Butterfield as in the Brill Creamed cabeza guy with your signature triple XXXL luau shirts from Big Lots.

And by the way joanC................UP YOURS!

JJ
Perry Apfelbeck
JJ
Never posted on here before but have been reading for several years and enjoy your stories and would like to meet you or any other members. We would love to tag along on your Salinas Point run but doubt the ride we keep down there is worthy. Have a 08 Grand Vitara with a few inches of lift and 31's on it but it's a total pooch power wise. We are going to be down tomorrow and staying for a week or so.

Perry
OurForever
JJ, I will be towing one of my jeeps behind the motorhome. We will be in RP June 4th-22nd. I'm thinking I'll take the 78 CJ7. Pretty sweet ride. Has the 80s Look to it. The fat wide tires/wheels. All of my jeeps have been swapped to fuel injection and add on AC. Fat people like me need cool air even if the top is off! I'm always game to go on an off road adventure!
playaperro
Jungle Jim said:

"They killed Kenny"

We all thought you were another body count from the scamdemic. So Kenny, you must be doing a makeover just like Jerry did.

Anyway most of us here have a few personal details posted in our "Account Details" when someone clicks on your emoji, unless of course you are hiding something. But then again you just might be Jerry with another account.

JJ

I don’t think that’s Kenny, Kenny writes totally different hasn’t been in Penasco in 15 years.
Will that engine fit in my F150 JJ?
Old55
Perry Apfelbeck said:



Jungle Jim said:

Hey Jerry......

The price of the new V8 is not an accessory as it is the standard engine on the new Raptor R. That price is the cost of the crate engine from Ford Performance.

Funny thing on your post about Kenny's Scout boat. That was my last boat before my current Sea Pro. It was a 19 footer with a center console and T-top.

The wettest boat I've ever owned and appropriately named "Wet Willy". It had a Yamaha 250 V-6 four stroke and could get me to Isla San Jorge in under an hour out of the port. Even with that engine I never felt safe as once it seized up with a half mile of monofilament gill net wrapped around the prop and another time I hit a wood pallet out there at speed causing a sudden prop stoppage. Try cranking that 250 with your lawn mower pull cord! Almost killed me each time. The only safe way to approach the Gulf is with twins like I have now.

As for a "work truck" I do have a new Ford F-350 4x4 diesel dually crew cab with the 22,000 lb. tow package that can haul anything at 100 mph. That's the truck I was driving last July when we stopped at Bowie to look you up.

JJ

looked back and see we have been yelling at each other for 8 years!Maybe get the booster as I would hate it if my long time male companion died Jim! …hey what happened to Yuma James?….just kidding about the boat…remembered this post!
(YumaJames,
This is Jim Davis AKA JungleJim.
I live in Yuma and used to spend a lot of time at P Penasco. I've got a 23.5 Sea Pro sportfisher that I've trailer hauled many times down there. I stopped going about five years ago when things started getting really stupid down there. Thought we might meet and maybe do a caravan with the boats and some fishing once down there.)

Someday I will have tell you how I saved your life!
Jungle Jim
playaperro said:

I don’t think that’s Kenny, Kenny writes totally different hasn’t been in Penasco in 15 years.
Will that engine fit in my F150 JJ?


Playa.....

I'm sure it will, just have your cutting torch and a grinder handy. I'm also sure that Ford Performance couldn't care what you do with that engine.

JJ
Old55
playaperro said:

I don’t think that’s Kenny, Kenny writes totally different hasn’t been in Penasco in 15 years.
Will that engine fit in my F150 JJ?

Not him…got bored with this place….I sort of am for sure…
Jungle Jim
Old55 said:

looked back and see we have been yelling at each other for 8 years!Maybe get the booster as I would hate it if my long time male companion died Jim! …hey what happened to Yuma James?….just kidding about the boat…remembered this post!
(YumaJames,
This is Jim Davis AKA JungleJim.
I live in Yuma and used to spend a lot of time at P Penasco. I've got a 23.5 Sea Pro sportfisher that I've trailer hauled many times down there. I stopped going about five years ago when things started getting really stupid down there. Thought we might meet and maybe do a caravan with the boats and some fishing once down there.)

Someday I will have tell you how I saved your life!



So Jerry...........

I haven't heard anything from Yuma James in several years. He did work at the hospital here. He never contacted me about doing a caravan or buddy boating. The last time I was at Safe Marina his boat was still there on the trailer with two flat tires and a tarp shredded and tattered to ribbons. Many of the hospital workers here quit when the scamdemic mandatory rules and regs hit. Then they were replaced with woo-floo compliant out of towners at double the salary.

As for a booster, sorry I have not nor will ever get the jab as both of my nurse step daughters think the same. One got rehired at the hospital when the scamdemic went "poof" and was no longer newsworthy.

JJ
Jungle Jim
Perry Apfelbeck said:

JJ
Never posted on here before but have been reading for several years and enjoy your stories and would like to meet you or any other members. We would love to tag along on your Salinas Point run but doubt the ride we keep down there is worthy. Have a 08 Grand Vitara with a few inches of lift and 31's on it but it's a total pooch power wise. We are going to be down tomorrow and staying for a week or so.

Perry



So Perry,

The Mexican Pangueros make that drive along the beach in twenty year old two wheel drive pick up trucks with four mismatched bald tires, they do get stuck but usually have a half dozen hombres in the bed to lift it out of the sand or mud.

As for myself I will be testing out a brand new set of MAXXIM RAZR MT's at 36" tall on ten inch wide wheels. I drop the pressure to eight pounds when we leave the highway and the Jeep will go anywhere in comfort. The Mexicans stick to the wet sand at the surfline but even with a high speed approach almost always need hombre power to climb the final dune back up to the flats.

From the wet sand of the surfline to the dunes the dry sand is powder soft and deep, so plan on a lot of slow gas guzzzling creeping. I use a half tank of gas just on the beach so I always carry two five gallon Jerry cans in order to make it back to Penasco. There is no gas between the Pemex at the Los Conchas turnoff and El Desemboque so you are on your own. If you need gas at El Desemboque it will be eight or ten dollars a gallon and hand pumped from a fifty five gallon old rusty drum. We air up under a shade tree before we hit the highway home.

Friday morning will be at Guiseppies for breakfast as we plan our campaign for the weekend. We are usually there around 11 AM. You can't miss the Jeep that will be parked in front.

JJ
Perry Apfelbeck
Thanks for the insight JJ I kinda figured as much from reading some of your previous posts about that beach run. It sure sounds cool as shit but guessing the little Suzuki won't be real happy in that deep sand. My wife and I will stop by Guiseppies Friday morning to say Hi, looking forward to meeting you, we have breakfast there quite often. We just got to our place in Los Conchas, 84 degrees, light wind out of the south, ocean looks perfect for a few casts as does the forcast for the next week.

Perry
Jungle Jim
Hey Perry.........

We will see you Friday, if we make it thru the pot-hole highway without any totaled out tires and the never ending checkpoints set up by the police, La Guarda Natcional, the Army and the Mexi-Marineros.

JJ
Old55
Perry Apfelbeck said:

Thanks for the insight JJ I kinda figured as much from reading some of your previous posts about that beach run. It sure sounds cool as shit but guessing the little Suzuki won't be real happy in that deep sand. My wife and I will stop by Guiseppies Friday morning to say Hi, looking forward to meeting you, we have breakfast there quite often. We just got to our place in Los Conchas, 84 degrees, light wind out of the south, ocean looks perfect for a few casts as does the forcast for the next week.

Perry

Depending on the yesr those 4wd Vitaras are great on the beach. A few owners keep one at Santo Tomas to head north to the spit or south for lunch in Desemboque…..tire pressure of course is the key
Perry Apfelbeck
Good to know thanks!
We live in Colorado I have plenty of experience crawling around in the mountains where its more about picking lines. I know nothing about the sand other than I like to sit in it with a Tannery and tonic in my hand or walk around in it whipping lures with my surf casting rods.
Perry Apfelbeck
Tanqueray and tonic, stupid smart phone spell checked me.
Jungle Jim
In all of my years driving the beach and desert around PP and beyond I have never hooked up with a SINGLE PERSON who had any interest in tagging along. Same goes for fishing from my boats AKA buddy boating.

So, we just go solo. Meaning BE PREPARED.............sorry fag scouts as in you are not, any longer capable of honoring your bullshit motto.

Being prepared means sitting down and listing any possible contingency to deal with within reason other than an "Act of God" as in tsunami, meteor impact, lightning strike, flash flood, tornado, water spout, breaching whale or rabid Cougar.

So we go loaded for bear within reason, as in a real spare wheel and tire, a winch, extra fuel, hand tools, a jack or two, a shovel, a jump starter, a first aid kit, compressed air, communication devices that actually work, drinking water, a GPS device to let someone know where you actually are and a flare gun so they can actually find you if they are really looking for you.

We have been up shit creek many times, got out on our own and made damn sure it wouldn't happen again, if possible.

My all time favorite rescues usually deal with idiots stuck frame deep in sand or mud that never took the time to know what front locking hubs are for or the little switch on the dash that indicates 4WD.

Just saying............

JJ
Petrose
Some advice on not ever getting stuck in the sand or mud:

The minute that you leave the pavement put the vehicle in four wheel drive and leave it in four wheel drive until you are ready to get back on the pavement. You may be tooling down a sand, dirt or gravel trail where you don't think 4WD is necessary then in an instant you might be bogging down in deep soft sand or mud. When that happens if you're in 2WD you are already in the getting stuck event. Your TJ does not instantly jam into 4WD as there are gears to engage and distance to travel before all of that stuff meshes up. It just ain't gonna happen if you are already in a hole.

The minute that you leave the pavement air down the tires. Don't wait till you are in two feet deep muck and the valve stem is in sixteen inches down at the bottom of the wheel deep in water or slimy goop. I always drop the pressure to 10 psi. then check it again in a few miles as the now soft bulging tire builds up heat and the pressure increases. So you just might need to let more air out to bring them down to the 10 psi. range. Since you mention that you will be getting new tires you might consider buying a set of rapid air down valves. I have them on both of my TJ's and they save a lot of time letting the air down like maybe ten seconds at the most for each wheel. They will require drilling and additional hole in the wheel as they are only for deflating and your original valve will be used to inflate.

When you are ready to hit the pavement air the tires back up to highway pressure. This can be a slow process depending on the inflation system that you have like a bicycle tire pump, an electric compressor or a 3200 psi. Scuba tank. I carry a Scuba tank in my vehicles everywhere I go. With it I can inflate each tire to highway pressure in about thirty seconds. One of those Scuba tanks can easily inflate ten or fifteen big off road type tires, as long as you keep the tank topped off.

Carry more recovery gear than you will ever expect to use. Of course it's an issue in a little TJ Jeep but make the space for it. First would be at least one of the longest pull straps that you can find, next would be at least two but three or four would be better, steel shackles to connect the strap to your Jeep and the vehicle that will be pulling you out or maybe to another strap or two depending on how far from solid ground you might be bogged down in.

Carry a real full sized shovel that can move some dirt, not one of those folding toys they sell that might be good enough for digging a poop hole. You might be bogged down to the frame and have to move hundreds of pounds of dirt in order to get the wheels back on solid ground to drive out.

Carry an extra hydraulic jack or two. Your stock jack is designed to lift the axle with stock tires on flat pavement, not lift it when the axle is under two feet of sand or mud. Keep two or three wood blocks to increase the height of the jack. I keep a 2x4, a 4x4 and a 4x6 block in every vehicle.

Carry a High Lift jack. These are the ultimate for a speedy lift if you can find room for it. Don't forget they cannot lift your axle or wheel as they require a solid, not body sheet metal point to do the lift. That point will be the front or rear frame mounted bumper which means the lift will probably be more than two feet in order to get the wheel up off of the ground. They make a 12" x 12" base plate for those jacks for use in sand and mud otherwise the jack will just sink into the sand and lift nothing.

Carry a functional winch. This will be helpful especially if you have something to attach it to. Good luck if your out miles on a muck beach or out in the dunes. The last resort for a solid pull point will be your spare wheel, if you planned ahead and have the strength and balls to attempt this: walk out with your winch cable as far as it goes, did a DEEP hole, wrap the cable around the wheel thru the center hole and bury it. You now have a solid pull point and just might be able to get moving. You might have to repeat this ordeal several times depending on how far out you ended up.

Carry a CB Radio that works. Good luck trying to explain where you are stuck, especially in Spanglish!

By the way, I have never been stuck or marooned in a spot that I couldn't get out of on my own even if it took two days! Some day let me tell you about the adventure that I had in a four hundred foot deep swale of talcum powder sand in the dunes on the west side of the Pinacate....

Thank you Jim for the above information. Yes, his rig is loaded for bear.

AZ_Mike...
Old55
Great advise ….or get a couple Honda Ranchers ….two is a magic number out there incase one craps out…
Old55
and side note once you pass the spit unless a shell collector there isnt much point of going all the way to Desemboque.It is sorta dicey down there now.Maybe cut back out at the point (Jaguey) or Santo Tomas.
Mexico Joe
Did Perry make it?
Last edited: May 28, 2022 at 1:52 AM
Perry Apfelbeck
Mexico Joe said:

Did Perry make it?

I did make it Joe. JJ and his better half showed us how to fill a bucket with clams was our first time doing it and eating them, they are tasty as hell. Going to attempt the Salinas Point run today hopefully he doesn't have to drag the Suzuki most of the way. Fishing has been awesome nothing all that big but good numbers lost count of how many sand bass I've caught a couple days ago, got 8 Corvina, 5 Triggers, and quite a few Pompano as well.
Perry
Perry Apfelbeck
Perry Apfelbeck said:

I did make it Joe. JJ and his better half showed us how to fill a bucket with clams was our first time doing it and eating them, they are tasty as hell. Going to attempt the Salinas Point run today hopefully he doesn't have to drag the Suzuki most of the way. Fishing has been awesome nothing all that big but good numbers lost count of how many sand bass I've caught a couple days ago, got 8 Corvina, 5 Triggers, and quite a few Pompano as well.
Perry

Thanks again JJ my wife and I had a awesome time on our Salinas Point adventure!! Your knowledge, advice and stories about the history of the area were second to none.I think the little Suzuki did pretty good in the sand. Any experience with full size trucks on the beach? I have a half ton Ram with 35's and a locker in the rear. Hopefully the wind is a bit less and the waves not so big.
Perry
Jungle Jim
As a matter of fact Perry, yes a big truck will do fine just consider another six thousand pounds of steel, plastic and rubber to dig out.

You will still be required to let the tire pressure down and have a method to air them back up.

You will NOT be driving a truck up into those dunes like I did with my Rubicon, sticking to the wet sand along the tide line will be the best bet just as we did on the way back last weekend and as Jose the panga camp guard and his compadres do on a daily basis.

The horror of a low rider Hot Rod Ford Raptor marooned with it's belly on the ground and all four wheels spun out and hanging down in self dug holes and perfectly functional lockers front and rear is something I don't ever plan on doing again. Better make sure that you always have a REAL full sized shovel handy!

JJ
Old55
Jungle Jim said:

In all of my years driving the beach and desert around PP and beyond I have never hooked up with a SINGLE PERSON who had any interest in tagging along. Same goes for fishing from my boats AKA buddy boating.

So, we just go solo. Meaning BE PREPARED.............sorry fag scouts as in you are not, any longer capable of honoring your bullshit motto.

Being prepared means sitting down and listing any possible contingency to deal with within reason other than an "Act of God" as in tsunami, meteor impact, lightning strike, flash flood, tornado, water spout, breaching whale or rabid Cougar.

So we go loaded for bear within reason, as in a real spare wheel and tire, a winch, extra fuel, hand tools, a jack or two, a shovel, a jump starter, a first aid kit, compressed air, communication devices that actually work, drinking water, a GPS device to let someone know where you actually are and a flare gun so they can actually find you if they are really looking for you.

We have been up shit creek many times, got out on our own and made damn sure it wouldn't happen again, if possible.

My all time favorite rescues usually deal with idiots stuck frame deep in sand or mud that never took the time to know what front locking hubs are for or the little switch on the dash that indicates 4WD.

Just saying............

JJ

Fag Scouts ? That is pretty low.You know they are just kids having fun in scouting and that is a good thing! In many ways It is a better organization these days. https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/first-black-openly-gay-boy-scouts-executive-portland/283-96f05bd3-348d-48ea-86a0-f4563a545de9
Jungle Jim
As a Cub Scout we were mentored and controlled by some of our straight white married female moms.

As a Boy Scout in Newport Beach we were mentored and controlled by a gaggle of young mackeral snapper priests who were as gay as a herd of castrated pink plush unicorns, my first exposure to real fags. The Scout leader was a 70 year plus skinny queen that never was seen without his Scout uniform and Smokey hat. He had an incredible garage turned shop where he could make any item of equipment as per the Scout manuals. His favorite past time was one on one training sessions with a fresh young Scout.

I couldn't stand any of it so transferred to the Sea Scouts at the Newport Sea Base next to the Balboa Bay Club. We had pro surfers, beach boys and real professional boat Captains as leaders as well as every type of sea faring watercraft imaginable for our use. We even had a sea marksmanship course and merit badge available and let us make use of almost every type of firearm. That training made my soon to happen transition to a US Army Air Cav Trooper a breeze.

"BE PREPARED" is my middle name.

JJ
ernesto
Ha! Mackeral Snapper,haven't heard that for a bit! Remember fish stick fridays at school? I still eat those.
Jungle Jim
I do Ernesto and now I always do aged dead cow on the barbie on Friday nights, as we will do tonight.

Ever since those good old days in N-Port Beach and I told a nun to stick her knuckle smackin yardstick up her coolero.

JJ
Jungle Jim
Petrose said:

Some advice on not ever getting stuck in the sand or mud:

The minute that you leave the pavement put the vehicle in four wheel drive and leave it in four wheel drive until you are ready to get back on the pavement. You may be tooling down a sand, dirt or gravel trail where you don't think 4WD is necessary then in an instant you might be bogging down in deep soft sand or mud. When that happens if you're in 2WD you are already in the getting stuck event. Your TJ does not instantly jam into 4WD as there are gears to engage and distance to travel before all of that stuff meshes up. It just ain't gonna happen if you are already in a hole.

The minute that you leave the pavement air down the tires. Don't wait till you are in two feet deep muck and the valve stem is in sixteen inches down at the bottom of the wheel deep in water or slimy goop. I always drop the pressure to 10 psi. then check it again in a few miles as the now soft bulging tire builds up heat and the pressure increases. So you just might need to let more air out to bring them down to the 10 psi. range. Since you mention that you will be getting new tires you might consider buying a set of rapid air down valves. I have them on both of my TJ's and they save a lot of time letting the air down like maybe ten seconds at the most for each wheel. They will require drilling and additional hole in the wheel as they are only for deflating and your original valve will be used to inflate.

When you are ready to hit the pavement air the tires back up to highway pressure. This can be a slow process depending on the inflation system that you have like a bicycle tire pump, an electric compressor or a 3200 psi. Scuba tank. I carry a Scuba tank in my vehicles everywhere I go. With it I can inflate each tire to highway pressure in about thirty seconds. One of those Scuba tanks can easily inflate ten or fifteen big off road type tires, as long as you keep the tank topped off.

Carry more recovery gear than you will ever expect to use. Of course it's an issue in a little TJ Jeep but make the space for it. First would be at least one of the longest pull straps that you can find, next would be at least two but three or four would be better, steel shackles to connect the strap to your Jeep and the vehicle that will be pulling you out or maybe to another strap or two depending on how far from solid ground you might be bogged down in.

Carry a real full sized shovel that can move some dirt, not one of those folding toys they sell that might be good enough for digging a poop hole. You might be bogged down to the frame and have to move hundreds of pounds of dirt in order to get the wheels back on solid ground to drive out.

Carry an extra hydraulic jack or two. Your stock jack is designed to lift the axle with stock tires on flat pavement, not lift it when the axle is under two feet of sand or mud. Keep two or three wood blocks to increase the height of the jack. I keep a 2x4, a 4x4 and a 4x6 block in every vehicle.

Carry a High Lift jack. These are the ultimate for a speedy lift if you can find room for it. Don't forget they cannot lift your axle or wheel as they require a solid, not body sheet metal point to do the lift. That point will be the front or rear frame mounted bumper which means the lift will probably be more than two feet in order to get the wheel up off of the ground. They make a 12" x 12" base plate for those jacks for use in sand and mud otherwise the jack will just sink into the sand and lift nothing.

Carry a functional winch. This will be helpful especially if you have something to attach it to. Good luck if your out miles on a muck beach or out in the dunes. The last resort for a solid pull point will be your spare wheel, if you planned ahead and have the strength and balls to attempt this: walk out with your winch cable as far as it goes, did a DEEP hole, wrap the cable around the wheel thru the center hole and bury it. You now have a solid pull point and just might be able to get moving. You might have to repeat this ordeal several times depending on how far out you ended up.

Carry a CB Radio that works. Good luck trying to explain where you are stuck, especially in Spanglish!

By the way, I have never been stuck or marooned in a spot that I couldn't get out of on my own even if it took two days! Some day let me tell you about the adventure that I had in a four hundred foot deep swale of talcum powder sand in the dunes on the west side of the Pinacate....

Thank you Jim for the above information. Yes, his rig is loaded for bear.

AZ_Mike...



Hey Mike,

Almost reads like I wrote your whole note myself!

I did the Pinacate dunes episode myself. Managed to get out in a day. We were going to drive over the dunes to Adair Bay then take the short cut beach run to PP before the Coastal Highway was built. BAAAAD idea no matter how much air we let out of the tires.

Anyway, considering functional com. All of my vehicles and boat have a hard wired CB radio, a hand held CB radio, a handheld VHF, a hand held GPS, two smart phones with GPS, a 12 gauge flare gun with a dozen extra shells, numerous flashlights and stick matches to start a bonfire just in case someone might actually come to your rescue!

JJ
Petrose
Jungle Jim said:

Hey Mike,

Almost reads like I wrote your whole note myself!

I did the Pinacate dunes episode myself. Managed to get out in a day. We were going to drive over the dunes to Adair Bay then take the short cut beach run to PP before the Coastal Highway was built. BAAAAD idea no matter how much air we let out of the tires.

Anyway, considering functional com. All of my vehicles and boat have a hard wired CB radio, a hand held CB radio, a handheld VHF, a hand held GPS, two smart phones with GPS, a 12 gauge flare gun with a dozen extra shells, numerous flashlights and stick matches to start a bonfire just in case someone might actually come to your rescue!

JJ

Yep, you wrote it all! I was on the coastal highway about 10 miles outside of El Golfo going towards Peñasco and went off road to look at something. My TJ sank in the dry sand like it was water. Aired down after the fact and just went down to the frame. Luckily I had my folding GI shovel.....worthless!
J.J. on his way back to Yuma sees this and unlike anyone else, pulls over and schools me on the do's and don'ts of sand driving, including to get a real shovel and fix my winch so it's operational.
That was awesome is after this incident you followed up and wrote advice to me, great stuff! Working rescue on the Goldwater Range for 30 some years i thought I knew how to off road, maybe in moon dust but not unsuspecting dry sand is a huge difference.
I still owe you for the save and do my dental in Algodones, lunch some time.

AZ_Mike
Old55
Jungle Jim said:

As a Cub Scout we were mentored and controlled by some of our straight white married female moms.

As a Boy Scout in Newport Beach we were mentored and controlled by a gaggle of young mackeral snapper priests who were as gay as a herd of castrated pink plush unicorns, my first exposure to real fags. The Scout leader was a 70 year plus skinny queen that never was seen without his Scout uniform and Smokey hat. He had an incredible garage turned shop where he could make any item of equipment as per the Scout manuals. His favorite past time was one on one training sessions with a fresh young Scout.

I couldn't stand any of it so transferred to the Sea Scouts at the Newport Sea Base next to the Balboa Bay Club. We had pro surfers, beach boys and real professional boat Captains as leaders as well as every type of sea faring watercraft imaginable for our use. We even had a sea marksmanship course and merit badge available and let us make use of almost every type of firearm. That training made my soon to happen transition to a US Army Air Cav Trooper a breeze.

"BE PREPARED" is my middle name.

JJ

Sea Scouts know never to talk about “the way of the sea” always one of the most pervy of the groups for some reason “multiple scouts have accused their scout leader of molesting them .They say skipper Eugene Austin Evans encouraged public masturbation on his boat, kept the ship stocked with pornography, gave the boys massages that devolved into molestation, and sexualized the names of food, such as "penis butter and jelly."
Jungle Jim
Old55 said:

Sea Scouts know never to talk about “the way of the sea” always one of the most pervy of the groups for some reason “multiple scouts have accused their scout leader of molesting them .They say skipper Eugene Austin Evans encouraged public masturbation on his boat, kept the ship stocked with pornography, gave the boys massages that devolved into molestation, and sexualized the names of food, such as "penis butter and jelly."


We were always pretty good at catching Sperm Whales!

JJ
dirtsurfer
Jungle Jim said:

So OF...........

Do you keep a Jeep in PP? I always keep one of my TJ Rubicons down there. As I mentioned earlier I'll be down for four or five days next weekend if you want to tag along. There will some really big tides so plan on a surf casting rig to maybe snatch a corvina or two for the dinner plate. We will be poking around the enormous shell middens at Salinas Point made from thousands of years of oysters, clams, murexes and Cortez Conchs hauled up by the long gone Tepoca tribe that paddled out in their reed canoes to free dive for them back in the good old days.

As for identifying yourself on this or any other forum now days, you can absolutely count on a negative hate filled response related to ANY subject that you might bring up. Case in point: joanC above. He, she or it is so full of scalding acidic hateful piss that it probably flows from every pore on it's body. Being a "real estate agent" has it's draw backs especially when the people that you ripped off would just die to find out more about you. At least the used car salesmen in their Hawaiian shits and onion picker "cowboy" hats can make a quick retreat into the head at the dealership.

So another related subject..........has anyone heard anything from my "buddy" Kenny? The last time I saw him was at the PP Sam's Club parking lot maybe two years ago. He just stood there glaring at me with pure bloody hate in his eyes. Never had the balls to walk up at chat with me as I was guarding my open Jeep as the wife was in the store.

So there joanC, the "jig is up" with you, as more than likely your real name is Butterfield as in the Brill Creamed cabeza guy with your signature triple XXXL luau shirts from Big Lots.

And by the way joanC................UP YOURS!

JJ

JJ: where is Salinas point? We would ride -in the olden days, north of Cholla to another estuary we fondly name shell estuary because the shells of all types were 5-8 feet deep. Now you have me researching Tepoca indians……
Jungle Jim
Hello Dirt,

We will be down during the extreme new moon tides at the end of the month for five or six days. We almost always do a trip down that way to view and document the current "Rape of the Sea of Cortez". If you wanna tag along let me know.

That whole body of water from Pelican Point/Cholla Bay across to the defunct light house near Salina Grande is called Adiar Bay. The ancient and now extinct Indians that lived there were known as the Sand Papagos. They controlled the salt trade there and were quite well off considering the fact that they lived in an environment that can only be described as as close to HELL as any place on earth.

There was then and even now permanent fresh water all along that coast...if you knew where to find it! And willing to risk being stuck with an arrow head dipped in human shit, ground up scorpion tails and rattlesnake heads.

JJ
Old55
By Germans point just south of ST on what was the failed Parayso development clusterfk a actual fresh water undergroud stream reaches the sea at the outer edge of the lowest low tide of the year….Kenny was hooked up to a Grouper from shore there years ago…strange place…...I run into all kinds looking for the ex German submariners lost gold ….side note , this still cracks me up …people love mysteries…http://the-wanderling.com/hellcat.html
surfcaster
I met the German when I was 18. His shack still stood for about 10 years thereafter. My dad claims to have seen him in a Nazi uniform. We last saw him in the mid '70's. Thanks for the link to the article on subs in the Cortez Old55.
Old55
surfcaster said:

I met the German when I was 18. His shack still stood for about 10 years thereafter. My dad claims to have seen him in a Nazi uniform. We last saw him in the mid '70's. Thanks for the link to the article on subs in the Cortez Old55.

HI TJ, I heard one of your Corvina chasing buds bought Vals house…what a great place and what a deal.
surfcaster
Old55 said:

HI TJ, I heard one of your Corvina chasing buds bought Vals house…what a great place and what a deal.

If it was one of my buds he didn't tell me about it. Maybe it is one of the guys I know from my past, but not one of my regulars. I wish we had a house there. Stuck renting until I win the Powerball.
Old55
surfcaster said:

If it was one of my buds he didn't tell me about it. Maybe it is one of the guys I know from my past, but not one of my regulars. I wish we had a house there. Stuck renting until I win the Powerball.

With the 8 new houses being built lots of new construction guys from the ejido.Some have never fished for corvina.Adolfo is using some of my gear to teach them the usual tricks…they are getting some nice Corvina now…big
Mexico Joe
Old55 said:

With the 8 new houses being built lots of new construction guys from the ejido.Some have never fished for corvina.Adolfo is using some of my gear to teach them the usual tricks…they are getting some nice Corvina now…big


Hey tell Adolfo that I want to take Juan Pablo up on his offer. He claimed his grandparents if I'm correct Jerry own the rights that ejido??? of course as an American I can't own ejido but he said that he would give me a lot to build on. That was back in 2014 on my last trip to Santo Tomas.
Mexico Joe
Mexico Joe said:

Hey tell Adolfo that I want to take Juan Pablo up on his offer. He claimed his grandparents if I'm correct Jerry own the rights that ejido??? of course as an American I can't own ejido but he said that he would give me a lot to build on. That was back in 2014 on my last trip to Santo Tomas.


4 walls, tin roof and a shitter... $10k?????????
Old55
Maybe 20k…Be great for you as fishing in Lobos would be your main deal and the boys could watch your boat in the Ejido.I will tell him….I also have a lot in St I’ll sell you supercheap….on a corner so a curved dual entry drive way good for boats is doable.
surfcaster
Glad to hear the corvina are hitting. I am coming to sweat and fish June 27th.
Jungle Jim
So...........................

Where is Mexico Joe?

Did some woke commie lib forum commisar bastardo band him or sumpin?? It's been days since he has gone off on one of his non-stop raging extra-ordinarily opinionated rants.

Anyway AZ Mike, we will be back down PP way on the 23rd thru the 27th of this month for the big new moon tides. If you want to tag along we will be heading out south to El Desemboque then doing a beach run up north to Santo Tomas. If the tide and time is right we might take a look at Jerry's WWII fighter plane that was still stuck en de muck the last time we were down that way last year. It is near the area where the rock boring Piddock Clams screw there way into the low tide exposed clay beds can be found. Always carry a surf casting setup since you never know what might be biting.

Those clams are the best!!

The Cannon Ball Jellyfish rape of the sea should be going at a full out blood lust by now in El Golfo. With the number of pangas and on-shore processing plants now ready to operate we should see the Cannon Balls completely wiped out in a week or two. Then what?? Scrape out the little Fiddler Crabs and send them on a dirt nap vacation to Korea too?

We watched a U-Tube vid today from Ko-Re-A all about how to prepare the Horse-Dick Gooey Duck Clams from the panga camp at Bahia San Jorge today. The cute little cookie chickie was almost orgasmic as she split the long dead bivalve into chunks. Especially after she removed the "fore skin" from the "penis" and pulled it out to show the viewers how it could erect almost four feet long"!! As she split the meat of the penis, actually the siphon, she was gushing over how delicious it was to eat a few pieces of it RAW while preparing it. So anyway it seems that our Gooey Ducks are a sexual delight for the women, not the limp dick guys that need the Giant White Sea Bass swim bladders to get hard. What a stinky hot date those people must endure. No wonder their birth rates are so miserable.

JJ
Old55
surfcaster said:

Glad to hear the corvina are hitting. I am coming to sweat and fish June 27th.
Matt fished with Woody or Tom yesterday in Lobos .He caugt a beautiful Roostertail but I cant post it even though it is only 90kb?
Old55
Big bunch of T-Bass being caught down this way too…real pain to say them with the sinker trick
Old55
Petrose said:

Some advice on not ever getting stuck in the sand or mud:

The minute that you leave the pavement put the vehicle in four wheel drive and leave it in four wheel drive until you are ready to get back on the pavement. You may be tooling down a sand, dirt or gravel trail where you don't think 4WD is necessary then in an instant you might be bogging down in deep soft sand or mud. When that happens if you're in 2WD you are already in the getting stuck event. Your TJ does not instantly jam into 4WD as there are gears to engage and distance to travel before all of that stuff meshes up. It just ain't gonna happen if you are already in a hole.

The minute that you leave the pavement air down the tires. Don't wait till you are in two feet deep muck and the valve stem is in sixteen inches down at the bottom of the wheel deep in water or slimy goop. I always drop the pressure to 10 psi. then check it again in a few miles as the now soft bulging tire builds up heat and the pressure increases. So you just might need to let more air out to bring them down to the 10 psi. range. Since you mention that you will be getting new tires you might consider buying a set of rapid air down valves. I have them on both of my TJ's and they save a lot of time letting the air down like maybe ten seconds at the most for each wheel. They will require drilling and additional hole in the wheel as they are only for deflating and your original valve will be used to inflate.

When you are ready to hit the pavement air the tires back up to highway pressure. This can be a slow process depending on the inflation system that you have like a bicycle tire pump, an electric compressor or a 3200 psi. Scuba tank. I carry a Scuba tank in my vehicles everywhere I go. With it I can inflate each tire to highway pressure in about thirty seconds. One of those Scuba tanks can easily inflate ten or fifteen big off road type tires, as long as you keep the tank topped off.

Carry more recovery gear than you will ever expect to use. Of course it's an issue in a little TJ Jeep but make the space for it. First would be at least one of the longest pull straps that you can find, next would be at least two but three or four would be better, steel shackles to connect the strap to your Jeep and the vehicle that will be pulling you out or maybe to another strap or two depending on how far from solid ground you might be bogged down in.

Carry a real full sized shovel that can move some dirt, not one of those folding toys they sell that might be good enough for digging a poop hole. You might be bogged down to the frame and have to move hundreds of pounds of dirt in order to get the wheels back on solid ground to drive out.

Carry an extra hydraulic jack or two. Your stock jack is designed to lift the axle with stock tires on flat pavement, not lift it when the axle is under two feet of sand or mud. Keep two or three wood blocks to increase the height of the jack. I keep a 2x4, a 4x4 and a 4x6 block in every vehicle.

Carry a High Lift jack. These are the ultimate for a speedy lift if you can find room for it. Don't forget they cannot lift your axle or wheel as they require a solid, not body sheet metal point to do the lift. That point will be the front or rear frame mounted bumper which means the lift will probably be more than two feet in order to get the wheel up off of the ground. They make a 12" x 12" base plate for those jacks for use in sand and mud otherwise the jack will just sink into the sand and lift nothing.

Carry a functional winch. This will be helpful especially if you have something to attach it to. Good luck if your out miles on a muck beach or out in the dunes. The last resort for a solid pull point will be your spare wheel, if you planned ahead and have the strength and balls to attempt this: walk out with your winch cable as far as it goes, did a DEEP hole, wrap the cable around the wheel thru the center hole and bury it. You now have a solid pull point and just might be able to get moving. You might have to repeat this ordeal several times depending on how far out you ended up.

Carry a CB Radio that works. Good luck trying to explain where you are stuck, especially in Spanglish!

By the way, I have never been stuck or marooned in a spot that I couldn't get out of on my own even if it took two days! Some day let me tell you about the adventure that I had in a four hundred foot deep swale of talcum powder sand in the dunes on the west side of the Pinacate....

Thank you Jim for the above information. Yes, his rig is loaded for bear.

AZ_Mike...

And dont do this…really sad…...https://www.gofundme.com/f/jt9b7-the-woods-family
Tmecke
Old55 said:

And dont do this…really sad…...https://www.gofundme.com/f/jt9b7-the-woods-family


Yup. Same thing happened on a job site in B.C. CanaDUH I was working on a few years ago. A young engineer trying to get his coworker unstuck. The ball and hitch part came through the rear window and squared him in the head, the hard hat he was wearing did little to protect him from the missile.
Old55
https://fb.watch/eFB8B2_t6F/ did you guys see this ?
Tmecke
Old55 said:

Matt fished with Woody or Tom yesterday in Lobos .He caugt a beautiful Roostertail but I cant post it even though it is only 90kb?


No more posting photos on this site, I guess. I still have many pics from the early days to share. Maybe some geeks on this forum can start a new everything PP+ site.
joester
Good luck on your new Ford truck order, unless you'll be happy with losing some items off your build sheet.
Fwiw- I ordered a 2022 F-150 screw on 4/15 this year - got vin# and finally got to see window sticker a couple weeks ago -
SiriusXm and Navigation have been deleted - and Ford can't/won't add on later.
Ford now shows truck as built, with a forecasted arrival date in early September. I've already told salesman
that this is a deal breaker, I won't pay 60K for a truck that is not exactly as ordered.
Chip supply issued blamed. I'll wait to see how 2023 orders look before ordering a 2023.
Reason for order, is to get HDPP - those trucks are a unicorn unless special ordered - there have been zero available in Az
for over a year. Good thing I don't need it just yet.
Jungle Jim
I ordered my Raptor R on 18 July. Got my confirmed order and build sheet later that day. The truck does have SiriusXM and Navigation.
My truck is #718 on the assembly line of only 2500 to be built on the special edition first run.

JJ
Old55
Joester, Sirius sort of sucks anyways in my opinion.I wouldn't kill the buy over it.
Maybe buy a used on from say Green valley (owned by some geezer that never used it hard?)
joester
Old55 -
We've had Sirius in every vehicle since 2004, and currently have 4 subscriptions. When travelling, I won't rent a vehicle without Sirius.
You may not find it important, but we do.
There are literally NO used or new F-150 trucks with HDPP, so finding one isn't possible.
Old55
joester said:

Old55 -
We've had Sirius in every vehicle since 2004, and currently have 4 subscriptions. When travelling, I won't rent a vehicle without Sirius.
You may not find it important, but we do.
There are literally NO used or new F-150 trucks with HDPP, so finding one isn't possible.

Cant you go after market ?
Old55
Jungle Jim said:

I ordered my Raptor R on 18 July. Got my confirmed order and build sheet later that day. The truck does have SiriusXM and Navigation.
My truck is #718 on the assembly line of only 2500 to be built on the special edition first run.

JJ

Man that is quite the turtle egg crusher I bow down !
Old55
I like this idea …. https://carbuzz.com/news/fords-new-invention-will-help-broncos-stuck-in-the-sand