The drive from border to RP is perilous!

Getting through Sonoita was a piece of cake. We have been driving down here for years but this was the first drive that was truly scary. Truck after truck and some cars going 110-120 mph pulling trailers kept passing 3 cars in a row that were going 75 mph. They were barely feet from our car!! We saw several near head on collisions. This was Friday, daytime. Years ago we were the first car to come up to a head on collision. American kids vs a truck with a Mexican family. Beer cans and bodies everywhere. Quite a few injured and we rendered aid and called for help. It was nighttime. I don't want to ever see that again. It's not worth getting to town a half hour faster. I hope the drive home is safer. What is wrong with people? The police should set up a speed trap in the middle of the two towns to save lives! They could also make a lot of money! True speeders.

Yet most of the people on these boards claim nobody ever speeds and the cops that stop them are all corrupt.......

Queen of Kings said:

Yet most of the people on these boards claim nobody ever speeds and the cops that stop them are all corrupt.......

LOL, the only one who don't speed are the delivery trucks or Mexican's driving older cars.

Once cleared of Sonoyta, most US plated cars are going north of 75mph with many doing 85-100mph.
Way too many trucks pulling toys or trailers have no business even trying to pass lines of cars, I've seen too many close calls
or the aftermath of one of them not quite making it.
You are correct many of the Sonoyta Policia tend to look at corruption and preying on visitors as an income booster.

Queen of Kings said:

Yet most of the people on these boards claim nobody ever speeds and the cops that stop them are all corrupt.......

No they don’t , you purposeful instigator.

99.9% of the comments on this board and thread revolve around shake downs and corrupt cops in Sonoyta pimping people who have OBEYED the law , stopped at stop signs and have driven the speed limit and still have been illegally pulled over for mordida and extortion.

And, 99.9 of those same people agree that there are assholes who drive way to fast and reckless when they get past Sonoyta.

We are talking two completely separate conversations here you instigator little guy.

Show us all 1 time whenever anybody has been ticketed within 2 miles outside of Sonoyta. It has never happened because the cops do not run speed traps outside of the 40 km crawl and stop sign trap of Sonoyta.

If they were at all interested in public safety, they would have a heyday pulling people over and taking them to jail for driving like idiots after they get out of town. That is not their interest. It’s the easy money, with their fat bellies and their slow squad cars, that have no interest in pulling over real criminal traffic violations.

And you know it, you dipshit

Hit the border about 10:30 Sunday morning. Got the green light like everyone else. No stop at the National Guard. Eased through town didn't see one cop. Did have one A$$HOLE headed North out in the passing lane making Southbound traffic pull over to the side, otherwise there would have been a head on!!!

rplarry said:

No they don’t , you purposeful instigator.

99.9% of the comments on this board and thread revolve around shake downs and corrupt cops in Sonoyta pimping people who have OBEYED the law , stopped at stop signs and have driven the speed limit and still have been illegally pulled over for mordida and extortion.

And, 99.9 of those same people agree that there are assholes who drive way to fast and reckless when they get past Sonoyta.

We are talking two completely separate conversations here you instigator little guy.

Show us all 1 time whenever anybody has been ticketed within 2 miles outside of Sonoyta. It has never happened because the cops do not run speed traps outside of the 40 km crawl and stop sign trap of Sonoyta.

If they were at all interested in public safety, they would have a heyday pulling people over and taking them to jail for driving like idiots after they get out of town. That is not their interest. It’s the easy money, with their fat bellies and their slow squad cars, that have no interest in pulling over real criminal traffic violations.

And you know it, you dipshit

You know you have lost the debate when you resort to name calling. 99.9% of people claim to be little angels on the road. When they rightfully get stopped for speeding or other unlawful activity, they proclaim their innocence. Most people hate the police until they need them. All police are not perfect, but the vast majority of them are honest humans trying to do an incredibly difficult job.
The reason they patrol the city is that is what they are paid to do. Speeding is infinitely more dangerous in the populated areas. I am surprised you don't know that. Actually, I lied, I am not surprised you don't know that.

Bus collides with tractor-trailers in Sonora, killing 16

The bus collided with one truck and then was struck in turn by another

Published on Friday, September 3, 2021


A stationary tractor-trailer on a highway in Sonora appears to have triggered an accident that left 16 people dead early Thursday.
State officials said 22 people were injured in the crash involving a bus and two tractor-trailers, one of which had stopped near the side of the road. The bus struck the latter truck and was in turn hit by the other, which was approaching from the other direction.
The accident occurred at 4:30 a.m. on the Sonoyta-San Luis Río Colorado highway.

Thursday's accident scene in Sonora.

Where did this happen ? There no exact location .

I live in Penasco and go to Az at least twice a month. Be aware that in the past few months I have seen Sonoyta cops with people pulled over south of town past where the speed increases to 80kph

Queen of Kings said:

Yet most of the people on these boards claim nobody ever speeds and the cops that stop them are all corrupt.......

Wrong again. You got nothing but two wrong feet! I have seen NO ONE state that speeding is not a problem between the two cities. I have seen ONLY talk of the corrupt cops in Sonoita harassing non-speeders.

dirtsurfer said:

Wrong again. You got nothing but two wrong feet! I have seen NO ONE state that speeding is not a problem between the two cities. I have seen ONLY talk of the corrupt cops in Sonoita harassing non-speeders.

Ahh, you woke up. The speeding you witness between the two towns OFTEN continues into Sonoyta. Slow down and you won't have problems. Oh, those non-speeders you mention, they were most likely speeding. You can go back to sleep now.

Maduro steve said:

Where did this happen ? There no exact location .

The accident occurred at 4:30 a.m. on the Sonoyta-San Luis Río Colorado highway.

Queen of Kings said:

Ahh, you woke up. The speeding you witness between the two towns OFTEN continues into Sonoyta. Slow down and you won't have problems. Oh, those non-speeders you mention, they were most likely speeding. You can go back to sleep now.

Wrong again! No one can speed going north in to Sonoyta due to the always present radar cop and the red cross stop. The speeding between the two towns is very dangerous. One note: my friend was driving way too fast about half way between Sonoyta and Penasco, several years ago and we were pulled over by a Federal Highway officer, who was very nice, polite, told us he could confiscate our truck if he wanted to and then told us to be smart and slow down. So I know there are patrols out there between the towns sometimes.

In the Yucatan, on major 50 mph highways they have installed double speed bumps- they are well marked and have good signage and these speedbumps definitely slow traffic down.

Looks like a 3 hour wait at the border, ugh

ernesto said:

Looks like a 3 hour wait at the border, ugh

We were keeping up with that all day yesterday from about 1030am to 8pm... At 9pm we read posts of people returning to RP for the night. SO ROUGH!!!

Queen of Kings said:

You know you have lost the debate when you resort to name calling. 99.9% of people claim to be little angels on the road. When they rightfully get stopped for speeding or other unlawful activity, they proclaim their innocence. Most people hate the police until they need them. All police are not perfect, but the vast majority of them are honest humans trying to do an incredibly difficult job.
The reason they patrol the city is that is what they are paid to do. Speeding is infinitely more dangerous in the populated areas. I am surprised you don't know that. Actually, I lied, I am not surprised you don't know that.

One part I forgot to include in our trip report mainly because the report was for the boat, was that we were almost a victim of the Sonoyta Police Shakedown.

About 100 yards or more from the 40kph sign I started to slow from 80kph. This is well before the little "knoll" that the 40kph sign is on. At this point there is no line of sight in either direction from BUEN VIAJE sign to this position. As we came up the "knoll" still yards short of the 40kph sign I was already going 20mph. We got to the 40kph sign right at the top of the "knoll" doing 18-20mph and now in direct line of sight with BUEN VIAJE sign. I put the PUERCO PLATA in first gear to slow our pace to a mere 15mph crawl as we came down the "knoll" now noticing that there were two cops standing in the road where the normal red cross collection is under BUEN VIAJE sign.

It was 7:30pm and more than DUSK at this point as well. I proceeded with the exceedingly slow speed of 15 to 18mph. As we got within 50 feet we could see one officer had the radar gun pointed at us and the other officer was standing there holding a clipboard.

He motioned us TO STOP. Now kind of frustrated I pulled up and rolled down the window and sarcastically said, QUE ONDA? Almost like, what could you possibly need from me right now??????!!!! I clearly wasn't speeding.

The guy looked at me, then looked at Claudia and saw her pointing her phone right at him understanding that we had been recording the ENTIRE TIME from before the 40kph sign until that point exactly.

WE ALSO BOTH HAD OUR MASKS ON!!!!

So now what?! Now what COULD BE the next issue???? Nothing....

He said have a good day.

So 100% that was about to be some bullshit about some unknown law or speeding or masks or seat belt or YOU NAME IT... 100%. Plane and simple. We were about to be harassed.

We executed our plan to perfection and I believe it was the difference in this instance. This was the same advice that I gave to the NEW forum member that posted a week or two ago that I'm sure will never return to the forum again.

I actually thought this might have been the first time being PULLED OVER for GOING TOO SLOW... Still waiting for that one. I think if I was a gambling man I'd say we'll hear it eventually!

One other note from that night that pertains to this thread.

Right before the incident posted above we almost had a similar situation as this tour bus incident. I don't know which KM post it was but it was the first long straight away south of Sonoyta so about 10 minutes south of Sonoyta heading north. It was dusk and up in the distance I could faintly see what I thought was a stationary car/truck/semi on fire. I didn't see flames but faint red light and black smoke. I was only doing about 68mph but as we got up on it, it was actually moving at about 5 to 10mph. It was not on fire but it was a big rig or tractor trailer that was barely running just dumping smoke with the most faint NON WORKING tail lights being covered in this smoke you could barely see this fucking thing.

This guy was only half way on the shoulder though... like the mexicans like to do when letting you pass... EXCEPT! Right at that moment another car was coming the other way and there was NO WAY we were all fitting. Luckily enough I have enough wherewithal to understand WTF is happening in SPLIT SECOND DECISIONS despite what Hobie Vern believes. I got on the brakes so damn hard and basically almost came to a complete stop to avoid killing anyone or myself.

DUSK and DAWN are dangerous because your headlights aren't as effective. I've come up hard on cars that were moving but only going 25 or 30 mph with no working tail lights more than one time over the years. It's by far the biggest liability in Mexico. Highway driving.

dirtsurfer said:

Wrong again! No one can speed going north in to Sonoyta due to the always present radar cop and the red cross stop.

Yeah, you must be right. No one can speed going north into Sonoyta....
Do you even read what you write?

Queen of Kings said:

Yeah, you must be right. No one can speed going north into Sonoyta....
Do you even read what you write?

Yes, and I also have comprehension. NO ONE can speed going north to Sonoyta with the ever present radar cop & Red Cross stop. Please read Mexico Joe’s post.

I almost rear ended a tractor at night that was cruising at about 15 MPH halfway between Penasco & Sonoyta. There were no lights or reflectors on the tractor.

dirtsurfer said:

Yes, and I also have comprehension. NO ONE can speed going north to Sonoyta with the ever present radar cop & Red Cross stop. Please read Mexico Joe’s post.

Well, the King has spoken. According to dirtboy, you CANNOT speed going north into Sonoyta. So it shall be spoken, so it shall be done! Thank you for your declaration. Please make more so we can all be safer....

Queen of Kings said:

Well, the King has spoken. According to dirtboy, you CANNOT speed going north into Sonoyta. So it shall be spoken, so it shall be done! Thank you for your declaration. Please make more so we can all be safer....

It wouldn't matter for you anyway... you don't go to Rocky Point.

Mexico Joe said:

It wouldn't matter for you anyway... you don't go to Rocky Point.

Another declaration? We know how dumb that made dirtboy look.

Queen of Kings said:

Another declaration? We know how dumb that made dirtboy look.

"Remember it, write it down, take a picture. I don't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!"

-Smokey

Queen of Kings said:

Another declaration? We know how dumb that made dirtboy look.

How's the recount coming troll? Still waiting for them to reinstall JESUS... Thought that was supposed to have happen by now. Q really needs to get his shit straight. I think he's too busy fucking dolls in Japan. What a D-Bag!

Queen of Kings said:

Another declaration? We know how dumb that made dirtboy look.

I have a couple of jacks in me if you want to go for a late night showdown... I know you stay up laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate troll! I've seen your post times. Reminds me of when I was on tilt in 2010-2011. 3:45am posts will get you. I'm waiting right here though if you want to dance TROLL

Mexico Joe said:

I have a couple of jacks in me if you want to go for a late night showdown... I know you stay up laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate troll! I've seen your post times. Reminds me of when I was on tilt in 2010-2011. 3:45am posts will get you. I'm waiting right here though if you want to dance TROLL

You are seriously deranged. Did something trigger you? And physical threats really should be deleted. Not that I am afraid, but deranged people often do crazy stuff. All the mass shootings in America over the last 20 years.
Are you going to roll over me with your gimp chair?

ExJefe should have run.

How sad

Last weekend my neighbor in Miramar said he was parallel parked on the street, his own car in Park when a local screeched his tires around the corner. A police officer on foot ran over and tried to extort ticket money. My neighbor’s wife just happened to be filming and the incident was also caught on a dash cam. The officer was insistent, my neighbor‘s wife kept calling the officer a mentiroso and said we go to the courthouse-the officer, seeing the phone and the dash cam finally left. My neighbor called the police extorter mentiroso once more upon driving away. It seems cameras and dash cams may help.

We always have our dashcam on driving through Sonoyta. We go back to AZ about 2 a month and its been maybe 3 years since we have been stopped, but the last time we were we showed the officer the dashcam and asked him to watch the video and we were sent on our way. With our crossing back and forth over 20 times a year (40+ trips through Sonoyta one direction or the other) we really haven't been bothered much.

Old55 said:

ExJefe should have run.

what exactly transpired here in this story with the photo ?

Cops got whacked.

dirtsurfer said:

Last weekend my neighbor in Miramar said he was parallel parked on the street, his own car in Park when a local screeched his tires around the corner. A police officer on foot ran over and tried to extort ticket money. My neighbor’s wife just happened to be filming and the incident was also caught on a dash cam. The officer was insistent, my neighbor‘s wife kept calling the officer a mentiroso and said we go to the courthouse-the officer, seeing the phone and the dash cam finally left. My neighbor called the police extorter mentiroso once more upon driving away. It seems cameras and dash cams may help.

In RP or Son?

We went down last weekend no problems either city. Did the speed limit in town when we got out of town opened it up a little but had plenty of open view all around looking for park cops.

Mexico Joe said:

In RP or Son?

Sonoita. I do love to see the Mexican cops get flustered by an angry and wronged female.

dirtsurfer said:

Sonoita. I do love to see the Mexican cops get flustered by an angry and wronged female.

I didn't provide a trip report yet for our trip a week and a half ago but we crossed the border at about 715pm on Friday Sep. 24th. About 100ft south of the first OXXO that's about 100ft south of the border Aduana/Guardia National post that we didn't get stopped at, a MUNI cop got behind us. I don't know how far it is from there to the big VIP market at the Y, maybe 2 or 3 miles??? It felt like 19. The cop followed us the ENTIRE WAY from the border all the way to the VIP market. I had a line of cars behind me that may have been 20 or 30 deep. Claudia had the iphone rolling the entire time focused on the dash and speedometer the entire time. I was going like 18mph. I don't even mess with going the LEGAL 25 because 25mph/40kph IMHO is way too close and gives the PERP way too much lead. Give them an inch and they take a mile. Still haven't been pulled over for going too slow so it's 18mph for me or die. Anyway, IT IS SOOOOOOOOOOO HARD TO DRIVE 18mph for 3 miles with a hungry cop right behind you!!! Damn! We made it to the VIP market without incident. 100% used my turn signal BECAUSE AGAIN..... THE THESIS of everything I say... LOOPHOLE!!!!! CYA COVER YOUR ASS. My mom was teaching me about liability when I was young and I pry used to say every time, yes mom I heard you. Yes mom, I understand. "Joey, you have to be your own advocate".

Turn signal and made a right into the VIP market and the PERPS went on by. FFFFFFFFEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

I was dripping sweat the entire time, shaking!!! LOL The things we do for THE SEA OF CORTEZ BABY!!!!! YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

On the way North on Monday evening we arrived in Sonoyta at about 6pm if I remember correctly. No cops anywhere to be seen. No issue. No use of camera. No sweat was perspired.

However, we did get the nice new X RAY machine. THE BIG ONE. I guess the boat warrants the necessity. I didn't have the balls to decline. Nor the patience for SECONDARY so we said yes sir and proceeded through the machine. At least now I know my BOAT IS 100% NARCOTICS FREE!!!!!!!!

Mexico Joe said:

In RP or Son?

This happened in Sonoita.

Came down yesterday towing a trailer full of stuff. I did not see a cop between Gila Bend and home. I did not get stopped at the border.

Same, we went down last Thursday, avoiding the Columbus Day crowds. One cop in Mexico, doing the "Sonoita Crawl"; no issues. Came back Saturday night. Beautiful weather!

Cool…a 15 kph margin of error !

Now the policia are going need new displays for their radar guns with 67kph instead of 55 being displayed all the time.

Old55 said:

Cool…a 15 kph margin of error !

WOW, I wonder if this will really be practiced???

Why not boycott them from your next RP trip for a month?

Those bastards in So-No-Ita and El Mayor of RP would be having a grand shit fit iffi'n their cash cows didn't show up for a month.

JJ