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Worth a read

Started by dirtsurfer · Jul 21, 2020 · 40 replies
dirtsurfer
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/after-a-20-year-relationship-im-giving-up-on-mexico/?fbclid=IwAR228TuzVao7Y8pM5Woh6WahxhLtUpurcQoxqv1-rH6-dmRUOOVaS2Mi1rg
Waiting
Wow that is quite the story and cause for concern.
Stuart
Kind of reinforces my belief about owning any property in Mexico - never invest more than you can afford to walk away from at a moment's notice. This guy had invested millions. For me, it would be a trailer or RV. Maybe a small casita.

Still sad to see how it all crumbled for him.
Buffalo Marty
Stuart said:

Kind of reinforces my belief about owning any property in Mexico - never invest more than you can afford to walk away from at a moment's notice. This guy had invested millions. For me, it would be a trailer or RV. Maybe a small casita.

Still sad to see how it all crumbled for him.

Stuart, unfortunately you are 100% correct. Your comment is a good corollary to previous advice I think you also gave about buying a house in Mexico, i.e. "never purchase property in Mexico unless you are immediately handed a title and keys"
If you go into Mexico with eyes wide open it is much less likely to wind up jaded and bitter...
playaperro
I don't know who's selling at encantada towers in encanto, first tower sold out, hate to see that place end up like sandy beach.
brokenwave
I Totally agree with Stu and Marty,
When I told friends we were going to build a house in Mexico, I was asked "Are you crazy? there's
Cartels down there and Mexico will nationalize everything again".

I had a hand shake agreement with the developer who was drunk at La Curva restaurant to purchase the lot.

That was in 1988, Well most everything has gone well with some little speed bumps, a few break-ins, a hurricane, a water spout,
termites and lastly Covid-19.

It's still there, and if I was to lose it, I'd be angry, but would get over it because I invested what I could afford to lose.
Which wasn't that much in 1988, under $30k for a simple house and lot 100 feet from the ocean, but we've added on
and modernized it so the investment into it went up to make it better and more comfortable.

I never thought of it as an investment to get rich off of it, I think of it as a place to enjoy, watching our kid's grow up also enjoying it.

We've seen it too many times where people have sunk a lot of $$ into projects in Mexico and other places only to watch it disappear
from their mismanagement or things out of their control.
Roberto
QUOTE="Waiting, post: 397615, member: 18699"]
Wow that is quite the story and cause for concern.
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WELL, HERE IS CAUSE FOR GREATER CONCERN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. CATCH THE RECENT CLIP TAKEN IN OREGON OF A LARGE GROUP OF MASKED UNIFORMED WITHOUT INSIGNIA OR ID, CLUBBING AN ELDERLY UNARMED MAN WHO JUST WALKED UP TO THEM AND ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.. ONE MASKED WONDER HIT HIM REPEATEDLY LIKE HE WAS SWINGING AT A BASE BALL. THE OLD NAVY VET REFUSED TO GO DOWN. AT LEAST THE SPINELESS WONDERS HAD THE NERVE TO WEAR ID WHEN CLUBBING PEOPLE DURING CIVIL RIGHTS STUFF. TESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANY FASCIST ngo. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANY MEXICAN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE HERE. A SPINELESS CROWD OF ONLOOKERS JUST STOOD BY. WE ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL IN THE 6O'S & 70'S. hAS TRUMP GOT THEM SCARED. TIME TO LOAD THE BUSSES FOR OREGON.
Roberto
dirtsurfer said:



WORTH A READ II ---DON"T MISS THE VIDEO. THEY COULD BE A GROUP FROM OREGON
ernesto
One of the best things I ever did buying my mexico home. Zero regrets. 26 years and counting
Queen of Kings
Roberto said:

QUOTE="Waiting, post: 397615, member: 18699"]
Wow that is quite the story and cause for concern.


WELL, HERE IS CAUSE FOR GREATER CONCERN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. CATCH THE RECENT CLIP TAKEN IN OREGON OF A LARGE GROUP OF MASKED UNIFORMED WITHOUT INSIGNIA OR ID, CLUBBING AN ELDERLY UNARMED MAN WHO JUST WALKED UP TO THEM AND ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.. ONE MASKED WONDER HIT HIM REPEATEDLY LIKE HE WAS SWINGING AT A BASE BALL. THE OLD NAVY VET REFUSED TO GO DOWN. AT LEAST THE SPINELESS WONDERS HAD THE NERVE TO WEAR ID WHEN CLUBBING PEOPLE DURING CIVIL RIGHTS STUFF. TESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANY FASCIST ngo. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANY MEXICAN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE HERE. A SPINELESS CROWD OF ONLOOKERS JUST STOOD BY. WE ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL IN THE 6O'S & 70'S. hAS TRUMP GOT THEM SCARED. TIME TO LOAD THE BUSSES FOR OREGON.
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Fake News. The rioters in Portland have been getting more and more bold thanks to Wheeler and Brown. The Portland Police have been neutered by the mayor and city council. The Feds are there to protect federal property because the police have been ordered to stand down. The poor, poor vet you mention was not innocent and you only regurgitated the liberal side. Typical. If you think things are worse in the US than Mexico, you truly are ignorant or completely dishonest.
richwi
It's interesting to me you continually use "fake news" when you disagree with something, especially when your comments are based on your opinion as though your opinion is fact. It's like someone saying "my bad" rather than apologizing. Just trite phrases without real meaning.
wendell
Stu-- isn't there some place else for political posts? This site is rockypointtalk, not portlandtalk
Stuart
There is... Off Topic. Why, you want to try herding cats, Wendell? (kidding mostly). Hope you and the missus are well.
Queen of Kings
richwi said:

It's interesting to me you continually use "fake news" when you disagree with something, especially when your comments are based on your opinion as though your opinion is fact. It's like someone saying "my bad" rather than apologizing. Just trite phrases without real meaning.

The term 'fake news' is a generic term used when an article or headline is completely biased, half true, completely untrue etc. Most articles and headlines in the Fake News Media fall under this category. Get it now? It has become popular since President Trump became a candidate for office because 90%+ of the Fake News Media will print any article to hurt him and/or Conservatives.
richwi
We have been fortun
Queen of Kings said:

The term 'fake news' is a generic term used when an article or headline is completely biased, half true, completely untrue etc. Most articles and headlines in the Fake News Media fall under this category. Get it now? It has become popular since President Trump became a candidate for office because 90%+ of the Fake News Media will print any article to hurt him and/or Conservatives.

Like I said, a trite phrase without real meaning
Kenny
"Fake news" is the security blanket for the weak-minded.
Queen of Kings
richwi said:

We have been fortun

Like I said, a trite phrase without real meaning

Of course it has no meaning to snowflake liberals. They just drink the kool-aid and deny reality. To those with common sense and logic, Fake News makes perfect sense.
Queen of Kings
Kenny said:

"Fake news" is the security blanket for the weak-minded.

You mean like the term 'racist' is to liberals? Ouch, that one had to sting......
Petrose
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-settles-nicholas-sandmann-defamation-lawsuit-in-covington-catholic-high-school-controversy
richwi
Queen of Kings said:

You mean like the term 'racist' is to liberals? Ouch, that one had to sting......

Not in the least.
Maduro steve
It's obvious rules do not apply to the lefties look at Portland and Chicago . Fake news has finally been challenged .


































Kenny
Oh boy, now here's Petrose getting political. These guys are like Lemmings, but they are not as intelligent.
Maduro steve
You people bring it up. Fake news and all .
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Kenny
Maduro steve said:

You people bring it up. Fake news and all .

"people", what people? Bring what up?
Kenny
Some people don't seem to understand that saying something about what they have no knowledge of doesn't make what they say true. And those people have no clue about what I just wrote.
Queen of Kings said:

WELL, HERE IS CAUSE FOR GREATER CONCERN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. CATCH THE RECENT CLIP TAKEN IN OREGON OF A LARGE GROUP OF MASKED UNIFORMED WITHOUT INSIGNIA OR ID, CLUBBING AN ELDERLY UNARMED MAN WHO JUST WALKED UP TO THEM AND ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.. ONE MASKED WONDER HIT HIM REPEATEDLY LIKE HE WAS SWINGING AT A BASE BALL. THE OLD NAVY VET REFUSED TO GO DOWN. AT LEAST THE SPINELESS WONDERS HAD THE NERVE TO WEAR ID WHEN CLUBBING PEOPLE DURING CIVIL RIGHTS STUFF. TESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANY FASCIST ngo. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANY MEXICAN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE HERE. A SPINELESS CROWD OF ONLOOKERS JUST STOOD BY. WE ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL IN THE 6O'S & 70'S. hAS TRUMP GOT THEM SCARED. TIME TO LOAD THE BUSSES FOR OREGON.

Fake News. The rioters in Portland have been getting more and more bold thanks to Wheeler and Brown. The Portland Police have been neutered by the mayor and city council. The Feds are there to protect federal property because the police have been ordered to stand down. The poor, poor vet you mention was not innocent and you only regurgitated the liberal side. Typical. If you think things are worse in the US than Mexico, you truly are ignorant or completely dishonest.
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Petrose
Kenny said:

Oh boy, now here's Petrose getting political. These guys are like Lemmings, but they are not as intelligent.

Oh my goodness Kenny! Was my post demeaning? It was ment as just an example of fake news consequences. You decided to use as a scale of my intelligence that you want so much to judge. Worry about the log in your eye, not the splinter in mine. Hope you have a better day today.
Last edited: Jul 25, 2020 at 4:58 AM
JoseAz
richwi said:

Not in the least.

Im using the ignore function for Queen of Kings. Makes for a much better forum!
Stuart
The rise of "fake news" is in direct proportion to the decline of journalistic integrity. Stories and sources used to be researched and vetted before being ran. In the current 24/7 news cycle in which we live, all that went out the window. It's who breaks the story first these days, facts be damned.

Add to that the "news" is now more of an agenda or opinion piece, rather than a non-biased reporting of facts/events. Doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, both sides spin everything to their advantage.

It's why I no longer even read a newspaper or watch the news, other than to catch the weather report occasionally.

Please don't make this thread political.
brokenwave
There are so many articles out there that are mainly click bait for the questionable headline.
So fake news is the game of the decade now.
It seems like the word integrity has become much less important vs getting ratings.
There are only a few news outlets in the US that still hold high values for their reporting.

There are many news hacks out there that don't really review their pieces because they have writing errors and
obvious spelling errors. That wouldn't have happened in the News reporting golden years.
Kenny
Petrose said:

Oh my goodness Kenny! Was my post demeaning? It was ment as just an example of fake news consequences. You decided to use as a scale of my intelligence that you want so much to judge. Worry about the log in your eye, not the splinter in mine. Hope you have a better day today.

Demeaning? To me? Sorry, I forgot how sensitive you are. So, suck it up buttercup and take some deep breaths and you'll be fine. You are very much like our troll Queenie it seems because you show up to put a like on his nonsense consistently.
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Queen of Kings
richwi said:

Not in the least.

Denial aint just a river in Egypt......
audsley
The New York Times masthead displays the slogan "All the News That's Fit to Print." But today's slogan should read "All the News That Fits Your World View" and applies to the Times, New York Daily News, Washington Post, Washington Times, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Time, Newsweek, NPR, PBS and every other news outlet except, in my opinion, the Wall Street Journal. Viewership/readership drives advertising revenue, so the trick is to offer consistent bias confirmation and compete with the other outlets that are confirming the same biases. Fox and CNN don't compete with each other because they design their content for different and mutually hostile audiences. Viewers are like sports fans rooting for their team without having to think.

I regret that Donald Trump popularized the phrase "fake news." In my mind, fake news is when someone fabricates a story that Hillary is running a child prostitution ring out of a pizza parlor knowing there is a demand for that kind of inside "information," and sells advertising on its site. Biased news is what we get in the mainstream media, and reporting can be afford to be sloppy because most of the audience is loyal and won't question errors, exaggerations or misinterpretations. The distinction is important. Major news outlets don't really offer fake news. They simply tailor their facts to the kind of sermon their congregation came to hear. And they all do it, both liberals and conservatives.
ernesto
On a brighter note.... I just had a beautiful week down in our Pueblo. Weather was nice , got a bit of deferred maintenance done. Some great sunsets,warm in the early afternoon but not unbearably humid. Was going to the mountains next weekend, now thinking Mex again. Had not been in 4 months. No hassles, used the resident card.
joester
speaking of "worth a read" - I read this and thought it explained a lot of the discourse: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/role-cognitive-dissonance-pandemic/614074/
audsley
I just read the article in The Atlantic. Reminded me of F. Scott Fitzgerald's famous comment that "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." The article was talking about the people who can't function while holding two opposing ideas simultaneously, and nowadays that seems to be most Americans.

Right now I'm holding two opposing views of my choices in the Presidential election, but I'm not sure I'll be able to function on election day. Last time I wrote in a favorite Congressman who wasn't even running because I couldn't bear to leave my fingerprints on a victory for either of the two reprobates on the ballot. I can't really count that as functioning.
joester
I'm not sure how anyone can be on the fence at this time, seems the choice gets more clear with each lie.
Maduro steve
joester said:

I'm not sure how anyone can be on the fence at this time, seems the choice gets more clear with each lie.

By just watching the actions of certain parties (Portland Seattle ) tells me the obvious choice .
rplarry
joester said:

I'm not sure how anyone can be on the fence at this time, seems the choice gets more clear with each lie.


Go back and read your Atlantic article, reverse the bias in the article towards yourself and how you view of Covid and Trump, etc and drink in some of your own cool-aid.

Your DTS bias is so hypocritical towards the post you said, “worth a read” it is laughable.
IggyAZ
Roberto said:

QUOTE="Waiting, post: 397615, member: 18699"]
Wow that is quite the story and cause for concern.


WELL, HERE IS CAUSE FOR GREATER CONCERN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. CATCH THE RECENT CLIP TAKEN IN OREGON OF A LARGE GROUP OF MASKED UNIFORMED WITHOUT INSIGNIA OR ID, CLUBBING AN ELDERLY UNARMED MAN WHO JUST WALKED UP TO THEM AND ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.. ONE MASKED WONDER HIT HIM REPEATEDLY LIKE HE WAS SWINGING AT A BASE BALL. THE OLD NAVY VET REFUSED TO GO DOWN. AT LEAST THE SPINELESS WONDERS HAD THE NERVE TO WEAR ID WHEN CLUBBING PEOPLE DURING CIVIL RIGHTS STUFF. TESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANY FASCIST ngo. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANY MEXICAN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE HERE. A SPINELESS CROWD OF ONLOOKERS JUST STOOD BY. WE ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL IN THE 6O'S & 70'S. hAS TRUMP GOT THEM SCARED. TIME TO LOAD THE BUSSES FOR OREGON.
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MORE Untrue comparison of US and Mexico. LOL
This is not true. Please read the full story from real media.


The only thing true is:
An older man identified as John Blum was hit in the head, causing him to bleed, during a street brawl at a rally in Portland.
He was part of the brawl.
Find another faake news storey to relate to Mexico murderers cartel.
Queen of Kings
IggyAZ said:

WELL, HERE IS CAUSE FOR GREATER CONCERN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. CATCH THE RECENT CLIP TAKEN IN OREGON OF A LARGE GROUP OF MASKED UNIFORMED WITHOUT INSIGNIA OR ID, CLUBBING AN ELDERLY UNARMED MAN WHO JUST WALKED UP TO THEM AND ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.. ONE MASKED WONDER HIT HIM REPEATEDLY LIKE HE WAS SWINGING AT A BASE BALL. THE OLD NAVY VET REFUSED TO GO DOWN. AT LEAST THE SPINELESS WONDERS HAD THE NERVE TO WEAR ID WHEN CLUBBING PEOPLE DURING CIVIL RIGHTS STUFF. TESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANY FASCIST ngo. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANY MEXICAN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE HERE. A SPINELESS CROWD OF ONLOOKERS JUST STOOD BY. WE ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL IN THE 6O'S & 70'S. hAS TRUMP GOT THEM SCARED. TIME TO LOAD THE BUSSES FOR OREGON.


MORE Untrue comparison of US and Mexico. LOL
This is not true. Please read the full story from real media.


The only thing true is:
An older man identified as John Blum was hit in the head, causing him to bleed, during a street brawl at a rally in Portland.
He was part of the brawl.
Find another faake news storey to relate to Mexico murderers cartel.
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The 'peaceful' protesters are actually riotous mobs just looking to spread anarchy.
InkaRoads
and going back to the original article seems like many miss the "me, me, me" attitude of a flashy rich man with a "whity mighty help everybody" way with houses and jobs larger than the next one, in a cartel ridden state, obviously that after 20 years he did not learn his lesson, like many say modest, comfy and non-flashy is the way to go in MX, unless you are in the rich side of town then its OK, however, still need to drive your vocho around town, by the way do you know that cartels are all over MX including RP they LOVE tourist and any foreigner around they NEED them. but if they are flashy....