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Watch Your Trucks Closely - Part II!!

Started by Stuart · Apr 18, 2010 · 110 replies
Stuart
Sad as I am to report this, my good friend Mark had his truck stolen last night, right from in front of the Penasco Del Sol, parked next to the Security Guard shack. F-350 diesel. Just got off the phone with him; he's still in Penasco right now trying to get a Police report and such. Videotape clearly showed a car come down the street, two guys got out and approached his truck, then his truck driving away within a minute or so.

He and I talk a lot and he was aware of the attempt to steal my truck last week. He took extra precaution and felt safe being right next to Security. Doesn't seem to matter.

Talked to Audi, on his way back from fishing. He reported that Friday, just coming into town, there was a wrecked Dodge Durango surrounded by cops and police tape. Turned out that it was a narco shooting. The two guys in the Durango had been shot, the truck then careened off the highway and rolled.

It's getting very bad, folks. Watch yourselves!!
JimMcG
Stuart said:
Sad as I am to report this, my good friend Mark had his truck stolen last night, right from in front of the Penasco Del Sol, parked next to the Security Guard shack. F-350 diesel. Just got off the phone with him; he's still in Penasco right now trying to get a Police report and such. Videotape clearly showed a car come down the street, two guys got out and approached his truck, then his truck driving away within a minute or so.

He and I talk a lot and he was aware of the attempt to steal my truck last week. He took extra precaution and felt safe being right next to Security. Doesn't seem to matter.

Talked to Audi, on his way back from fishing. He reported that Friday, just coming into town, there was a wrecked Dodge Durango surrounded by cops and police tape. Turned out that it was a narco shooting. The two guys in the Durango had been shot, the truck then careened off the highway and rolled.

It's getting very bad, folks. Watch yourselves!!


Sad news indeed on both counts, as Mexico allows itself to again self inflict wounds, against its own interests. Thanks for the heads up.

Bye the way, as a followup to the prior flare gun discussion, I saw one with 4, 12 guage flares for less than $40 at Walmart the other night.
Submarine
I think you've probably watched too many movies if you go up against someone who might be armed with a flare gun.
I'd seriously consider just bringing my 1911 like I used to in the old days and just hiding it where I used to(not going to say on an open forum, but it worked for over a decade.).

Haven't heard one word about the narco shooting or stolen trucks in the 'lamestream' media. Guess they are too busy "reporting" about Sarah Palin needing water! and a bendy straw! and wanting to fly First Class!!!
jerry
Submarine said:
I think you've probably watched too many movies if you go up against someone who might be armed with a flare gun.
I'd seriously consider just bringing my 1911 like I used to in the old days and just hiding it where I used to(not going to say on an open forum, but it worked for over a decade.).

Haven't heard one word about the narco shooting or stolen trucks in the 'lamestream' media. Guess they are too busy "reporting" about Sarah Palin needing water! and a bendy straw! and wanting to fly First Class!!!

This might be why you heard no discouraging words:
Murdered former host of Televisa Chihuahua

She was host of a news broadcast Televisa Chihuahua (Photo: Taken from leggonline.it)
CHIHUAHUA (SUN)
A former host of Televisa Isabella Maria Cordero was shot to death along with her friend by an armed commando in the northern city of Chihuahua, officials said Monday.

The bodies of two women, aged 23 and 22 years, were found inside a car late Thursday night.

Lamb currently works as Public Relations Officer of the National Chamber of Commerce (Kanak).

In the scene of the incident were found belonging to plain assault rifle, the usual weapon of organized crime. For the time is unknown motive.

With Lamb are now six journalists killed so far this year, in 2009, twelve journalists were killed.

The journalistic community has protested their lack of protection, as almost all the killings remain unpunished. Two other journalists remain missing.

Since 2000, the number of reporters killed about sixty, according to Reporters Without Borders (RSF), which makes Mexico the most dangerous country to practice journalism in America, according to the calendar.

The state of Chihuahua, which borders the United States is the most violent in Mexico. In its territory have produced about one third of the over 22,750 murders in the country since December 2006 war between cartels.

Although there are deployed across the nation a total of 65 thousand military and police federal public security work, could not stem the tide of killings.

Another violent incident took place last night in the northern state also of Nuevo Leon, whose capital Monterrey, an officer was shot dead by drug hit men and another was wounded , according to police reports.

In this event, add five policemen and two former officers killed this week by organized crime in Monterrey and its metropolitan area.

During the month were recorded in Nuevo Leon, about a dozen attacks on leaders and police officers, some of the policemen who were attacked were under investigation for alleged links with criminal groups.
jerry
Well it could be worse.We could hang in Creel: I love this video
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/04/sicarios-from-creel-massacre-ids.html
Stuart
Talked to Mark a few minutes ago. He said it's been a long day with the police, consulate, insurance adjuster etc. Said he was sitting on the beach, drinking a six pack. Probably same thing I would do. He also revealed something else of interest - police said his was the 4th Ford truck stolen in Penasco this weekend. There was one stolen in the spot next to where his was parked at Penasco Del Sol 12 hours earlier.

I am (personally) not going back to Mexico until I have the Ravelco system installed in my truck 1st week of May. My son and I installed Jimmi Jammers in all four doors yesterday. This is reaching epidemic level.

PS- I don't want hear one F'in word about how many trucks are stolen in the US everyday. If you drive a Ford, you're might as well paint a bullseye on it in Penasco right now.
Submarine
Well I have to agree with you Stuart and won't be making any trips anytime soon until I figure out something else too. I used to have a GPS tracking device installed in my truck that I could monitor via wireless internet, but my wireless card rarely works down there and how do you monitor it at the beach?
It was pretty cool though as it would send an alarm if the truck moved a pre-programmed distance.
dmcauley
I thought I'd never say this but Penasco is getting a bit dangerous. Without saying things in public that I shouldn't, I feel we need to be more careful in RP. Tourism is sure to take another blow but that's the price we are going to pay for sure.
Rhino
Here We Go Again!

I couldn't agree more that we have to be more careful....Everywhere. I'm not sure one truck stolen and another attempt in Penasco consititutes an epidemic. My Mexico vehicle is an F150 which is pretty cool and I will be more diligence but paranoid? I don't think so. In the past 3 or 4 years, I've had 2 trucks stolen out of my drive way and I live in North Scottsdale. One of them was taken by Hispanic crackheads. I know that because when it was recovered 2 days later there was a crack pipe in a sock and a Spanish rap/hip hop CD in the player and others in the cab. My guess is those are the same kind of guys who were involved in your incidents.
Stuart
Rhino - did you not read what I posted? FOUR stolen this past weekend. Mine almost a statisitic the weekend prior. For someone who's been going to Penasco for over 25 years, this is indeed an epidemic. It ain't crackheads stealing them for a joyride! They're being specifically targeted by/for the narcos to haul loads. Your truck gets stolen in Mexico, you'll never see it again. Probably wouldn't want to anyway, because it won't be anything but a burnt shell, somewhere in the desert.
rockyptjoe
Anyone have any experience with the "Boot" used by some cities for parking violators? Are they easily removed?

Here's a link to a price list..... http://www.mitico.com/Catalog/Rhino/RhinoPriceList.pdf
Last edited: Apr 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM
jerry
rockyptjoe said:
Anyone have any experience with the "Boot" used by some cities for parking violators? Are they easily removed?

Here's a link to a price list..... http://www.mitico.com/Catalog/Rhino/RhinoPriceList.pdf


they are easy to open when a gun barrel is put to the back of the owners head
rockyptjoe
jerry said:
they are easy to open when a gun barrel is put to the back of the owners head

Very funny Jerry.....NOT!!!:evil:

I guess the best way to prevent theft is to make it so time consuming for the thief to steal YOUR vehicle...that they go steal someone else's!!!

Or wire in a self destrut mechanism!!!:stir: One less thief..... Anybody remember those devices that I believe someone in Australia came up with years ago....had flames come out the side of your vehicle engulfing the "culprit"????

Sorry to those of you who were victims for making light of the situation....I know that I would be very pissed if it happened to me........and that's putting it mildly!!! I can imagine the grief that person went thru with the insurance company/police in Penasco...I know it was grief when I just had an accident....
Last edited: Apr 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM
bahiatrader
It is quite probably crack or meth heads that are stealing the vehicles though. The actual trafficers aren't going to jeopardize themselves when it's too easy to trade dope for a vehicle. I've noticed the theft rate in Rocky Point has amplified along with increased meth use. Tons of marijuana has gone through Puerto Peñasco for years with little or no theft increase until meth started to become prevalent.
jerry
bahiatrader said:
It is quite probably crack or meth heads that are stealing the vehicles though. The actual trafficers aren't going to jeopardize themselves when it's too easy to trade dope for a vehicle. I've noticed the theft rate in Rocky Point has amplified along with increased meth use. Tons of marijuana has gone through Puerto Peñasco for years with little or no theft increase until meth started to become prevalent.


You are wrong...the narcos have keys to everything and thanks to ex-workers at Ford dealers and DMV everything else they need too (titles etc.)

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/04/military-to-rescue-but-they-forgot-rest.html
bahiatrader
I don't think so Jerry. Not by choice, I happen to be on speaking terms with some of the trafficers. They're not about to risk a lucrative business by getting busted for something as petty as stealing trucks. One trip will sometimes net enough to buy several new vehicles. One truck, motorhome, or fairly new Lexus is good for about three trips before it starts to raise suspicions. There are body shops in Rocky Point that specialize in hiding stuff in vehicles. I was once offered $10 K just to ferry a motorhome from Rocky Point to Phoenix. I declined of course. The trafficers also hire someone to do the driving for them. I know of two college girls who got fairly new high-end vehicles just for driving them from Phoenix to Rocky Point and back three times. Customs keeps track of vehicles making frequent trips. After three trips fairly close together they'll usually search a vehicle thoroughly. They just don't have the time or manpower to search every vehicle. I got this from the horse's mouth so to speak.
Mexico Joe
Stuart said:
Sad as I am to report this, my good friend Mark had his truck stolen last night, right from in front of the Penasco Del Sol, parked next to the Security Guard shack. F-350 diesel. Just got off the phone with him; he's still in Penasco right now trying to get a Police report and such. Videotape clearly showed a car come down the street, two guys got out and approached his truck, then his truck driving away within a minute or so.

He and I talk a lot and he was aware of the attempt to steal my truck last week. He took extra precaution and felt safe being right next to Security. Doesn't seem to matter.

Talked to Audi, on his way back from fishing. He reported that Friday, just coming into town, there was a wrecked Dodge Durango surrounded by cops and police tape. Turned out that it was a narco shooting. The two guys in the Durango had been shot, the truck then careened off the highway and rolled.

It's getting very bad, folks. Watch yourselves!!

Stuart, I would agree that 4 trucks in one weekend and almost yours the previous weekend is excessive and abnormal. It's unnerving to hear about these accounts because I love Penasco so much and have for more than 10 years now. I go a lot, maybe not as much as others that "own" in Penasco, but more than your average Rocky Point tourist. I average a trip a month and am coming down this weekend of the 23rd. Having said that, should I be worried about my truck? It's a Toyota Tacoma Desert Prerunner with a lot of aftermarket work done to it, fox racing shocks, front bumber with skid plate, flaired fenders, the whole nine yards. The good thing is, its not the typical "Narco" truck as you have mentioned and its only 2wd. However it is an extremely nice truck. I would go on life tilt and be so pissed if something happened to it while I was there. Before this truck I had a 2000 Chevy Silverado with 22's and it was a really good looking truck. Im very acculturated with the latin community and I know for a fact that having a Chevy or Ford truck that is flashy is a status symbol. In saying this I always figured that it was possible for something to happen to it down there, but honestly I never had one issue with theft. So now after reading Stuarts post last week I started thinking a little more about it. I fully have anxiety now after reading this latest post by Stuart and coinsidently Im headed down this weekend which has really got the nerves going. So I guess my question to Stuart or anyone else that spends a significant amount of time down there is, should I be worried even though I dont have a FORD SUPERDUTY? I wonder what the stats are on auto theft in RP? If its really just a FORD SUPERDUTY problem I would feel much more comfortable. Does Mexican auto insurance cover against vehicle theft or just accident liability? STUART you have me all nervous now!
herradura
Has anybody tried the the Turbo Lifesaver? Works with diesels only. Plugs into wire loom under steering column cover on my Ford Super Duty.
Has two switches one you poke and it will beep for each minute you want for cool down up to 10 min. Pull keys out lock truck if some one tries to take truck when they touch break pedal everything shuts down can only be started with key. The switch is a toggle switch flip it over and everything shuts down can not start even with key . I installed both switches under dash by steering column sometimes hard for me to find. Has saved truck twice from being stolen.
Jim
I just drive a 1999 Chevy Blazer and I never wash it. Doesn't really matter if I lock it or not. I don't leave any money or important papers in it. No one wants it and that works for me. Theft has always been a problem, but here as anywhere else, you need to take the normal precautions.
rockyptjoe
bahiatrader said:
I don't think so Jerry. Not by choice, I happen to be on speaking terms with some of the trafficers. They're not about to risk a lucrative business by getting busted for something as petty as stealing trucks. One trip will sometimes net enough to buy several new vehicles. One truck, motorhome, or fairly new Lexus is good for about three trips before it starts to raise suspicions. There are body shops in Rocky Point that specialize in hiding stuff in vehicles. I was once offered $10 K just to ferry a motorhome from Rocky Point to Phoenix. I declined of course. The trafficers also hire someone to do the driving for them. I know of two college girls who got fairly new high-end vehicles just for driving them from Phoenix to Rocky Point and back three times. Customs keeps track of vehicles making frequent trips. After three trips fairly close together they'll usually search a vehicle thoroughly. They just don't have the time or manpower to search every vehicle. I got this from the horse's mouth so to speak.

I was just wondering....since the Customs people input your license plate number into the computer when you cross, isn't it cross-referenced against a stolen vehicle database? If so, all sorts of bells and whistles should go off...or am I asking/assuming too much from our wonderful Government????
dmcauley
Rhino, wake up! The narcos are not in the closet anymore. Be More careful than before but not paranoid. We used to walk the streets 24/7, sadly, not anymore. I don't give a rat's behind about the trucks, its the stray bullet that's bound to come.
PitiquitoRosy
Mexico Joe said:
Does Mexican auto insurance cover against vehicle theft or just accident liability? STUART you have me all nervous now!


When you buy your Mexico insurance you decide whether you want full coverage or just liability. The first thing to do is ask your U.S. carrier if they cover you this distance into Mexico. As has been discussed in another thread, some do cover their clients to Rocky Point. If your carrier won't cover you while in RP, then you might want to get full coverage. The deductibles are high: $1k for car and $1.5k for pickup.

Understand that insurance companies will never give you full retail, regardless what your vehicle is worth. Wholesale is tops, so don't buy $35k worth of insurance unless you're reasonably sure we can get that back for you in the event of a total loss.

If you just wonder what insurance would run...just go to the website and play around with the automatic quoter. Enter different amounts and see what it says. If you have further questions, feel free to pm me.
jerry
Mexico Joe said:
Stuart, I would agree that 4 trucks in one weekend and almost yours the previous weekend is excessive and abnormal. It's unnerving to hear about these accounts because I love Penasco so much and have for more than 10 years now. I go a lot, maybe not as much as others that "own" in Penasco, but more than your average Rocky Point tourist. I average a trip a month and am coming down this weekend of the 23rd. Having said that, should I be worried about my truck? It's a Toyota Tacoma Desert Prerunner with a lot of aftermarket work done to it, fox racing shocks, front bumber with skid plate, flaired fenders, the whole nine yards. The good thing is, its not the typical "Narco" truck as you have mentioned and its only 2wd. However it is an extremely nice truck. I would go on life tilt and be so pissed if something happened to it while I was there. Before this truck I had a 2000 Chevy Silverado with 22's and it was a really good looking truck. Im very acculturated with the latin community and I know for a fact that having a Chevy or Ford truck that is flashy is a status symbol. In saying this I always figured that it was possible for something to happen to it down there, but honestly I never had one issue with theft. So now after reading Stuarts post last week I started thinking a little more about it. I fully have anxiety now after reading this latest post by Stuart and coinsidently Im headed down this weekend which has really got the nerves going. So I guess my question to Stuart or anyone else that spends a significant amount of time down there is, should I be worried even though I dont have a FORD SUPERDUTY? I wonder what the stats are on auto theft in RP? If its really just a FORD SUPERDUTY problem I would feel much more comfortable. Does Mexican auto insurance cover against vehicle theft or just accident liability? STUART you have me all nervous now!


You have the truck of choice for honest mexicans.Check out the Toyota pulling a Toyota I=10 craze(HATE THEM!) They are taking a truck like yours towing a crappier truck like yours to a crossing in texas where the fix is in once or twice a month.
Stuart
Mexico Joe - Why be worried now? Seems like they have plenty of Ford trucks for the next week or so!!
Believe it or not, there was a time when small Toyota pickups were the most stolen vehicle in Mexico. Why? Everybody drove them; big trucks stood out like a sore thumb!

Obviously, I have no crystal ball, but I think you'll be fine. Layers of protection. Keep that thought in mind. Locked, alarmed, a Club, disabled if possible. You could pull the coil wire or an ignition fuse under the hood on that truck real easy once you're parked and in for the night. The longer it takes them to try and steal it, the more likely they are to abandon the attempt.

As far these guys being crack or meth heads, who knows? It doesn't matter; they seem to be pretty damn good and quick at stealing these vehicles. They know *exactly* what to do and execute very quickly. No, it is not the narcos themselves doing the stealing. The narcos simply put out a "shopping list" of the vehicles they need. Going rate is about $1000 per delivered vehicle to the narcos.

As for insurance coverage - check your policy carefully - it all depends on what you paid for. Know if you have full coverage or only liability. I have full coverage that includes theft (so did Mark), but the bottom line is they pay based strictly on BlueBook value. Says so right in the policy. Vehicles newer than 7 years - they pay average of high and low BlueBook figure. Vehicles older than 7 years, they pay low BlueBook. So, you're going to take it in the shorts for all the fancy-schmancy stuff you have on your vehicle. For example, Mark just put $1500 in new tires on his truck last week. It's unlikely he'll see a dime of that. I don't know how much room there is for negotiation with the insurance company, if any. The policy is pretty darn clear on what they pay. (Policy issued by Ad-Vis Global through Vagabundos Del Mar). I also supposedly have coverage up to 65 miles into Mexico on my US policy, but I certainly wouldn't want to have to test it. God help you if you've got a newer truck and are upside down on the loan value -- you'd likely be taking money out of your pocket to pay it off.

There's a bigger issue that comes into play for me. My truck is paid for; I don't owe any money on it. That makes it worth a fortune to me, because if I had to replace it like and kind, I'd be looking at forking out $50k + for a new one. Given what the insurance settlement would be, it would be a drop in the bucket as a down payment -- I honestly don't know if I could afford a big loan payment right now. Even if I could, I certainly don't want a big payment. I'd have to find some way of compromising because I'd still need a big truck to get the boat around.

Herradura - I've heard of the Turbo Lifesaver thingie on one of the Ford forums. I'm still going Ravelco because it's a completely passive solution.

:stir::stir::stir:
Now for the stir, stir, stir... it's been conspicuously silent from the "Penasco is Safe" cheerleaders. I'd like to hear something "official" from the powers that be - at least acknowledging what in the heck is going on with the sudden rash of vehicle thefts and what (if anything) they intend to do about it. The Internet is a powerful tool. There's a bike run, a grouper tournament -- a couple big events coming up in the next week or so. We all know how easy it is to "spook" the general public about safety and Mexico. A lot of those bikes that come down get to Penasco in trailers towed behind trucks. Yes, a lot of them actually get ridden, too. But if people get to feeling their vehicles are at risk (Mexico Joe above, *ME* as perfect examples), start rolling up the carpet and turning out the lights -- they'll just stay home.

The progress of the best spring break and Semana Santa in the last few years is going to be lost to a long, hot, no tourist summer. Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Rocky Point... nope.
Kenny
I have a good looking Chili pepper red Jeep Cherokee with some nice wheels and tires, and it's lifted just enough for my needs. I've noticed for some time now that the Jeep Cherokee is a very popular vehicle with the locals, and they even seem to like my color too! Anyway, that observation was all I needed to put me on my toe's, and way before this rash of truck thefts.
I'll be down Thursday evening for the weekend, and I just might have my coil wire off more than usual... I mean who knows, it could be like a cold, contagious.
dmcauley
The going rate is 20 thousand bahia and I've crossed frequently in upscale vehicles for years without one full search. Careful Bahia. Who you know, might not like you announcing it.
Ladyjeeper
Yeah, they look at my Chili Pepper red Wrangler with a 4 inch lift, 33x12:50 mud tires and a gazillion other upgrades, too. I'm really glad I have a gas kill. They can beat her up while she b$%&#%s at them but they can't steal her unless they tow her. I had a Cherokee go to Mexico without me in 1995. They stole her out of my driveway at 2 A.M. in downtown Phoenix while I was out in my backyard with my 2 dogs!!!!!!!! That's how quiet they can be. They found my Cherokee 6 months later in Hermosillo. The mayors son had been driving it around and pi$$ed off somebody who turned him in. Can't be afraid but ya gotta protect yourself.......Yeah, I'll still go to Rocky Point. But, I'm a fatalist. If it's my time to go......But, I can outrun anybody in the desert! I know how to wheel! You guys with the big pretty pick ups, I feel for you. Hide a start button somewhere no one would think to look. Make it a complete the circuit thing so even of they find it, they can't make it work. That's what my second Cherokee had. They tried to steal it 3 times in Mexico that I know of and couldn't. So far, I've been lucky with the Wrangler. No one has tried to steal it, yet.....
jerry
Hate to say it but the Pigeon Coops and their gated parking will be a strong selling point from now on
bahiatrader
Thanks for the warning dmcauley. I'm not particularly concerned since Rocky Point is no longer my first choice of places to go in Mexico.
ernesto
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for a bait truck. Or should this post go on the fishing forum?
dmcauley
Yeah, I've seen your posts in SC. Need to go there one of these days.
bahiatrader
I've been far more comfortable in SC and Kino Bay the last several years. A little further, but great fishing both places. Top water gamefish in the summertime are my favorites anyway.
Bosty
I was just wondering....since the Customs people input your license plate number into the computer when you cross, isn't it cross-referenced against a stolen vehicle database? If so, all sorts of bells and whistles should go off...or am I asking/assuming too much from our wonderful Government????

Reply to this- I had my 2005 F-250 diesel stolen from costco in northwest tucson, had lo-jack in it (worthless) and when I finally got ahold of someone who new what thay were doing- TPD- auto theft task force- told me my truck had crossed into mexico 2 days later, lojack, and license plate-(so they do track plates just don't do anything about it) then a phone call a day later saying he was going to get my truck in Nogales son.- Was hoping he didn't find it, which he didn't. Found it 4 months later in the desert around Agua Prieta, stripped, painted a different color and worthless. I now have an 07 F-250 diesel thayt I am taking down on the 29th- has remote start and alarm, someone tried to steal it a year ago and the system worked- just $125 to fix ignition. But I am having a kill switch installed next Tuesday before I go $50. Am going to relax and don't want to worry about my truck when we go into town- staying at the Reef.
Last edited: Apr 20, 2010 at 8:08 AM
JimMcG
www.killswitchcentral.com/dieseltrucksantithef.htm
Mexico Joe
Stuart said:
Mexico Joe - Why be worried now? Seems like they have plenty of Ford trucks for the next week or so!!
Believe it or not, there was a time when small Toyota pickups were the most stolen vehicle in Mexico. Why? Everybody drove them; big trucks stood out like a sore thumb!

Obviously, I have no crystal ball, but I think you'll be fine. Layers of protection. Keep that thought in mind. Locked, alarmed, a Club, disabled if possible. You could pull the coil wire or an ignition fuse under the hood on that truck real easy once you're parked and in for the night. The longer it takes them to try and steal it, the more likely they are to abandon the attempt.

As far these guys being crack or meth heads, who knows? It doesn't matter; they seem to be pretty damn good and quick at stealing these vehicles. They know *exactly* what to do and execute very quickly. No, it is not the narcos themselves doing the stealing. The narcos simply put out a "shopping list" of the vehicles they need. Going rate is about $1000 per delivered vehicle to the narcos.

As for insurance coverage - check your policy carefully - it all depends on what you paid for. Know if you have full coverage or only liability. I have full coverage that includes theft (so did Mark), but the bottom line is they pay based strictly on BlueBook value. Says so right in the policy. Vehicles newer than 7 years - they pay average of high and low BlueBook figure. Vehicles older than 7 years, they pay low BlueBook. So, you're going to take it in the shorts for all the fancy-schmancy stuff you have on your vehicle. For example, Mark just put $1500 in new tires on his truck last week. It's unlikely he'll see a dime of that. I don't know how much room there is for negotiation with the insurance company, if any. The policy is pretty darn clear on what they pay. (Policy issued by Ad-Vis Global through Vagabundos Del Mar). I also supposedly have coverage up to 65 miles into Mexico on my US policy, but I certainly wouldn't want to have to test it. God help you if you've got a newer truck and are upside down on the loan value -- you'd likely be taking money out of your pocket to pay it off.

There's a bigger issue that comes into play for me. My truck is paid for; I don't owe any money on it. That makes it worth a fortune to me, because if I had to replace it like and kind, I'd be looking at forking out $50k + for a new one. Given what the insurance settlement would be, it would be a drop in the bucket as a down payment -- I honestly don't know if I could afford a big loan payment right now. Even if I could, I certainly don't want a big payment. I'd have to find some way of compromising because I'd still need a big truck to get the boat around.

Herradura - I've heard of the Turbo Lifesaver thingie on one of the Ford forums. I'm still going Ravelco because it's a completely passive solution.

:stir::stir::stir:
Now for the stir, stir, stir... it's been conspicuously silent from the "Penasco is Safe" cheerleaders. I'd like to hear something "official" from the powers that be - at least acknowledging what in the heck is going on with the sudden rash of vehicle thefts and what (if anything) they intend to do about it. The Internet is a powerful tool. There's a bike run, a grouper tournament -- a couple big events coming up in the next week or so. We all know how easy it is to "spook" the general public about safety and Mexico. A lot of those bikes that come down get to Penasco in trailers towed behind trucks. Yes, a lot of them actually get ridden, too. But if people get to feeling their vehicles are at risk (Mexico Joe above, *ME* as perfect examples), start rolling up the carpet and turning out the lights -- they'll just stay home.

The progress of the best spring break and Semana Santa in the last few years is going to be lost to a long, hot, no tourist summer. Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Rocky Point... nope.

Stuart, wasnt trying to upset you when i said I would feel more comfortable knowing this is only a FORD problem. Im very sorry to you and your friends that have been targets down there. If my truck got stolen in Mexico you wouldnt want to be around me because I would have steam coming out of my ears for weeks and on top of that the hassel Im sure you have to go through just to get some kind of money back from the insurance. I was mearly trying to assertate if this is an auto theft problem or just a niche market problem. Looks to me like obviously they are going after a particular type of vehicle. After posting my reply yesterday I remembered reading an article on azcentral.com about the increase of truck theft from the I-10 corridor near Arizona Mills Mall. The article went on to say that a special task force has been tasked to investigate why this is so prominant in that area. They concluded that it is the Narcos and human smuggling organizations out of Mexico that are in charge of these thefts. The article went on to say that they mainly target FORD and DODGE Deisel type trucks, obviously for a particular reason. The task force has also found that the vehicles are only used a few times and then dumped in the same area that they are stolen from. The task force believes this is a hot spot off of the I-10 because people shopping inside the mall dont realize that they have been victomized for hours, allowing the trucks to run south on the 10 to Mexico. They have made their conclusions based off of a number of things Im sure, but one of them was the fact that they are finding the same stolen vehicles back where the trucks originally have been stolen from along the I-10 corridor near the AZ Mills Mall with alterations and customizations for smuggling. I definitely will be pulling a fuse or two for sure this weekend. Thanks for the tip and once again Im sorry to you and your friends, I really wasnt trying to joke at all. More or less just trying to clearify.
Stuart
Joe - No offense taken on my part at all, buddy! We're cool. I do think it's a niche problem as you described. You're perfectly right to be concerned and I understand the anger you'd feel if it were you.

My "stir the pot" comments weren't directed at you at all. What I was getting at is that us gringos often have love affairs with our vehicles. Next to our homes, it's the single biggest thing we buy, often making payments and taking years to pay off. When people feel their nice shiny truck or car is at risk of being stolen, they freak out. And even when there is security in place, you have to wonder if they're complicit or simply turning their heads and looking the other way because they don't want to put themselves or families at risk from the narcos. In essence, go ahead and take the gringo truck, it's not worth my life.

Consider this carefully - one of the other trucks stolen this past weekend was stolen 12 hours earlier from the exact same spot where Penasco Del Sol insisted Mark park his truck. Sheer coincidence?? C'mon, I have an extremely difficult time believing that!! They knew of the prior theft (Mark didn't at the time). They didn't do one damned thing to beef up security, but instead put another truck right there in the same place to be stolen?? Then, after notifying the Hotel of the theft and asking them to call the police, two hours later, no police. Mark actually flagged down an officer on the street to report the theft and was told that the Hotel never even called it in!! The Hotel is either the most incompetent place on the planet or complicit. Make your own decisions about that!

I live about 1.5 miles from AZ Mills Mall. Very rarely do I go there. We jokingly refer to it as the "Ghetto Mall." It should have been built in South Phoenix somewhere, not Tempe, because the only folks that patronize the place are from South Phoenix. It was okay when it opened for a year or so, but it's pretty much gangbanger central these days. And they have *always* had a vehicle theft problem there. As you said, so easy to "jack and go" right on down the I-10.
InkaRoads
Stuart said:
.....Now for the stir, stir, stir... it's been conspicuously silent from the "Penasco is Safe" cheerleaders. I'd like to hear something "official" from the powers that be......

One thing is for sure, and I will be :deadhorse: again, it happens all the time, here, there and everywhere, it just happen to be Stuart and his friend Mark and it happens to be first hand instead of the second hand twice remove cousin of your friend in Germany!!
I feel sorry for you guys and I hope it does not happen again, however it will to someone else, I am not a cheerleader of PP but I love the place and where I go I feel very secure and have never been robbed or have anything stolen, for which I am gratefull!!
Again you do not have to spend hundreds of dollars to make your car theft proof and for what I have heard and see you guys talking you are more than capable to come up with a better idea than give some audio/car alarm your money for a worthless piece of feces alarm that will not work!!
Fish on Bait
Im Mark the friend of Stuart he started the post about my truck being stolen ,I haven"t read all the previous posts so I mightbe duplicating or pissin some off anyway , First I would like to thank Stuart , Connie & all the members of this forum that called to help & all that did help Thanks Ed &Marsha for the ride home. It is very important to my wife & I that we stress the appreciation that we have for everyone that helped or tried to help, we do go out of our way to help people in need, & its nice to see that help returned.
Here goes Stuart & I had talked at length about the Ford truck theft in R.P. previous to my trip down being aware of this & my wife with I decided to stay at the Penasco Del Sol Hotel thinking nicer hotel better security(wrong) After a day at the marina & dinner we pulled into the full hotel parking lot , so I pulled into the handicapp parking. The lot attendant called our room & informed me I have to move my truck. He wanted me to park down the street I informed him I would checkout of the hotel first because I was aware of the bullseye on my truck & didnt feel the parking lot at the end of the street was very secure. He didnt want me to leave so he called security , who told me to park my truck along the curb directly in front of their Security Kiosk & gate 3:45 am they stole my truck
Fish on Bait
When I discovered the truck gone I went to the front desk asked her to call the manager & the police , a hour & half goes by before any help from the hotel comes the video shows the truck being stolen , the security equipment is in a broom closet way in the back, you have to walk in sideways to view the very distorted 12 inch screen , only enough room for one person at a time to see the screen . So after repeatedly asking the front desk & security where are the police & they kept saying they are on the way, three hours go by, I flag a police officer down, its now 11a.m 7 hours after they stole my truck the police tell me the hotel had never called them to report my truck being stolen & I need to go to the police station. A hotel employee takes me, The detective their informs me the hotel never called to report the theft & the day before a ford truck like mine parked in the handicap spot was stolen the day before . She just stared at the hotel employee like how stupid do you think we are?? Now to give any credit due to the Penasco Del Sol Hotel who assisted in the theft of my truck . They did provide transportation to the police station & a translator.
mexicoruss
So I guess figure out what the bad guys want (they always get it) and drive something else. duh! You guys are starting to sound like the rver community from Canada (nothing bad happens in Canada) but because it happens in Mexico it is ten times worse - get a grip. If you park your car out front of your hotel, Phoenix, Vegas, Penasco, you stand a good chance of not seeing it int he morning. Good grief. I hope none of you have anything stolen from you in the states as you will have nowhere to go.....By the way, I have lived here for almost 4 years, nothing stolen! Conspiracy? Maybe so..........Maybe not maybe just careful.
jerry
OK everybody just move along...nothing to see here...Russ did you have a part in the Jaws movie? You know the chamber of commerce guy pushing to open the beach before the second shark attack!
mexicoruss said:
So I guess figure out what the bad guys want (they always get it) and drive something else. duh! You guys are starting to sound like the rver community from Canada (nothing bad happens in Canada) but because it happens in Mexico it is ten times worse - get a grip. If you park your car out front of your hotel, Phoenix, Vegas, Penasco, you stand a good chance of not seeing it int he morning. Good grief. I hope none of you have anything stolen from you in the states as you will have nowhere to go.....By the way, I have lived here for almost 4 years, nothing stolen! Conspiracy? Maybe so..........Maybe not maybe just careful.
mexicoruss
Come on man, bad crap happens everywhere the world is a cesspool. Be realistic. If you have a nice piece and someone wants it it does not matter if they speak Spanish or English, if they are bad and they want your crap they will get it. Its just so sexy to talk about how your piece got jacked in Mexico instead of AZ Mil small or whatever. Crimes in Phoenix or Tucson NEVER get the same kind of coverage on the net as do the crimes in Mexico. I have been here for a long time. I worry about having my stuff jacked and I do everything I can to prevent it. If it does happen it will be because people in general have no center point balance and they dont care about you or what you consider to be yours.

Penasco happens to be ( for the time a tourist town) it is the target for everything that can go wrong but does not necessarily deserve it. When you stay at the end of 13th street in Penasco, pretend you are on Van Buren in Phoenix. Leave your truck out front in Phoenix and let the betting begin. I take odds that it will get jacked.

Chamber of commerce or chamber of reality --- get a grip.
Kenny
I can see where your "center point balance" is. It's right below your signature.
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mexicoruss
Thanks Kenny! I appreciate your comment. -It is what it is- sorry if that does not work for ya'all. Despite my efforts to help the community in general, the unbalanced reporting is always more fun to talk about.
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mexicoruss
How many "I never had my truck stolen" does it take to equal " I had my truck stolen" unknown I am sure.
How many "I had my truck stolen in Arizona" does it take to equal "I had my truck stolen in Mexico" once again unknown

Numbers dont matter when it happens to you. It is an angry thing to be victimized. It makes me mad , it makes you mad. I do not believe it has anything to do with where you happen to be at the time of the assault. My comments are only to add color to a black and white discussion from the perspective of a white guy living in Mexico. I will gladly never post another thing here if you want it your way all the time. Sorry for any offense it was not intended.

If I lived in Phoenix or Tucson I would pull my car or truck inside the garage at night. If I live in Mexico I pull my car or truck inside at night because I know what a crappy place this world has become. Later................. I have to park my cars for the night
Mentiras y Traición
Mark, I am so sorry to hear about your theft. Wherever something like that happens, it sucks! I have a Wrangler and have known for years that it is one of the most frequently stolen so I watch it as much as I can-in the US and Mexico, but can't live in the darn thing....Penasco is definitely changing from the little fishing town it was in the late '50's. I think we all need to change our attitudes as the environment changes...and it's changing at a rapid pace. Penasco is as safe as any other place if you are cautious and aware, and as unsafe as any other place if you aren't. The consequences and the actions (or should I say non-actions) of the authorities are what differ so much from the US...and I know what it feels like to know there is a piece of crap in possession of something that is yours and there is nothing you can do about it. I hope it all works out for you.
ernesto
The Ford truck ripoff has been going on for some time now. I had a friend down 2 years ago whose truck was stolen on calle trece and the cops told him at that time that bad guys had keys for Fords. The ignition was not damaged. Who knows? It's easy to jump the gun and call it Narco stuff. Just like up here there are alot of punks and they do bad stuff. Doesn't mean it's organized or Narco oriented.
dmcauley
Hey Russ, everybody on this forum is a regular of RP and doesn't want this sh-- happening but the facts are facts. Congrats on your 4 years in RP, I celebrated being a 4 year every weekender 20+ years ago. What does that have to do with Mark being set up. You are right about calle trece it has turned into a cesspool and there your analagy to Van Buren is spot on.
dmcauley
Mark, Ed told me about him meeting you Sat. night. I had given Stu Ed's # while you were with him. Small world.
Fish on Bait
Mexicoruss Im gonna guess you are the security gaurd at Penasco Del Sol where my truck was stolen or maybe the payoff guy if you want to post your address I can have my insurance company just deliver my new truck straight to your teepee in the desert. save you the taxi ride to town.
Penasco Pirate
I've been going to Penasco for 10 years and only had soda and food stolen... that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen to me sometime. My apologies for you guy's losses, I had a vehicle stolen out of my driveway in Mesa a couple years ago! Last new truck I'll EVER own, now I've got a '92 Cummins diesel that ain't pretty to anyone but me, and it sticks out like a sore thumb in RP!

I do feel that things are getting worse and Actually have to think twice when I need a Mexico fix now... total bummer to be scared away from a place we love to go. I've never felt uneasy when we have been there but can't help wondering 'what if'.... I too, live life to it's fullest but don't want to be shot by some effing cartel @$$hole!
Fish on Bait
mexicoruss said:
So I guess figure out what the bad guys want (they always get it) and drive something else. duh! You guys are starting to sound like the rver community from Canada (nothing bad happens in Canada) but because it happens in Mexico it is ten times worse - get a grip. If you park your car out front of your hotel, Phoenix, Vegas, Penasco, you stand a good chance of not seeing it int he morning. Good grief. I hope none of you have anything stolen from you in the states as you will have nowhere to go.....By the way, I have lived here for almost 4 years, nothing stolen! Conspiracy? Maybe so..........Maybe not maybe just careful.


What are you smoking??? I stated facts that happened to me in mexico this weekend !! what you are stating are delusional ,paranoia , & unfounded conspiracy. It might be hard for a day or two sober up & you will see the difference between FACTS & FICTION
JimMcG
Penasco Pirate said:
I've been going to Penasco for 10 years and only had soda and food stolen... that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen to me sometime. My apologies for you guy's losses, I had a vehicle stolen out of my driveway in Mesa a couple years ago! Last new truck I'll EVER own, now I've got a '92 Cummins diesel that ain't pretty to anyone but me, and it sticks out like a sore thumb in RP!

I do feel that things are getting worse and Actually have to think twice when I need a Mexico fix now... total bummer to be scared away from a place we love to go. I've never felt uneasy when we have been there but can't help wondering 'what if'.... I too, live life to it's fullest but don't want to be shot by some effing cartel @$$hole!


Likewise, and the police new exactly where I would find it.......on the Salt River Indian reservation. They were correct; that's where I found it.
mexicoruss
Fish on Bait said:
Mexicoruss Im gonna guess you are the security gaurd at Penasco Del Sol where my truck was stolen or maybe the payoff guy if you want to post your address I can have my insurance company just deliver my new truck straight to your teepee in the desert. save you the taxi ride to town.

Thanks! I wont post here anymore as I have nothing to add

Hey Stuart close my account out here. I have other work to do.
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Fish on Bait
Im sorry if I offended any of you long time residents of R.P. I am new here & I thought this was a forum about rocky point not downtown phoenix, or Canada so I apoligise , my question wood be so do I tell the people at 16th street & van buren about my truck getting stolen in mexico, or in Canada.
So if my truck gets stolen in Canada I tell the people in mexico or phoenix??
playaperro
What kind of security system did you have and was it armed for detection?
jerry
Oh don't be that way man.If you have read this forum for a while you know we always **** with the RP cheerleaders because it's our job!
mexicoruss said:
Thanks! I wont post here anymore as I have nothing to add

Hey Stuart close my account out here. I have other work to do.
jerry
It could have been Canadians...i really don't trust them.Maple syrup junkies with fancy health insurance and hockey sticks for breaking into cars while on vacation in Mexico
Fish on Bait said:
Im sorry if I offended any of you long time residents of R.P. I am new here & I thought this was a forum about rocky point not downtown phoenix, or Canada so I apoligise , my question wood be so do I tell the people at 16th street & van buren about my truck getting stolen in mexico, or in Canada.
So if my truck gets stolen in Canada I tell the people in mexico or phoenix??
Submarine
Jerry: +1000 Hal Holbrook Jaws reference that was freaking CLASSIC!


Russ: Still haven't seen anything in the news about the car thefts or the narco shooting. Just don't point any of your clients in this direction and they'll remain blissfully clueless.
Kenny

Thanks Kenny! I appreciate your comment.

You just can't just discount what has been said on this thread as if it was no big deal, and without merit. You can stick your fingers in your ears, and then make loud noises, but it's not going to change the facts. No one on here is trying to hurt you, or anyone else, but you seemed to have come after the people who are concerned about it in a very condescending way... You see their reaction.
I'll be down Thurday for the weekend.

Kenny
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Submarine
I just had a Canadian try to rip me off on eBay! That country is definitely going to Hell in a Handbasket.
The Canadians. They walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of them here.
InkaRoads
jerry said:
Oh don't be that way man.If you have read this forum for a while you know we always **** with the RP cheerleaders because it's our job!

Agreed, we, the tourist have a different point of view, even if we have been going to RP for years, ask Kenny, how long now? 40 years? I myself been going 20 years and I know that those living in Phoenix, New York or Vancouver hate when they talk trash about their hood no matter how bad it really is, however tactfully one can put his/her point across and still be a pro at promoting the hood!! :eek3:
azbeachboy
In forty years I've only had a few small things stolen from outside my trailer. I had one break-in at At San Juan trailer park but I left a window open. They only took a boom box and DVD's so it must have been kids. I think the problem is not with the narco people but the outside labor force and their families the condo builders brought in. As I remember it, the gang and street crime was almost non existent before the condos were built. DO you honestly think the crime rate in Rocky Point for stolen cars is higher than the crime rate for stolen cars in Phoenix? How about the murder rate in R.P. compared to Phoenix? or Tucson?

I agree that it is an awful experience to have something stolen - you feel violated and unsafe. Knowing that R.P. has a relatively low crime rate when you are the victim it does not make you feel any less the victim. However, I think we need to keep things in perspective.
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Kenny
It was 57 or 58 the first time Ink. And to tell the truth, as much as I love PP, there's always a little sadness in my heart when I'm there nowadays.

You know what realy bugs me? It's when I've forgotten I've pulled the coil wire just long enough for me to think my car won't start for a second or two.

I can remember my parents talking about, "how you just can't leave things laying around anymore"... Cholla Bay, in 62. The more things change.
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dmcauley
I think you hit the nail on the head chuck.
JimMcG
www.auto-theft.info/Statistics.htm
Jeff
Gonna get my Jimmi Jammers today!
playaperro
You hit the nail right on the head Russ....
Stuart
Yanno - this debate can continue virtually forever. Russ? You *really* want your account deleted? I can do that. Just say the word. Frankly, you're acting like some 5 year old having a tantrum and stomping around in his little blue sailor suit.

I'm once again going to state the purpose of the forum - the exchange of information about Puerto Penasco.

That means information good or bad. The value of this forum is that it is not in anybody's pocket. Not the real estate contingent, not the Penasco cheerleader contingent, not the I Hate Mexico contingent, not the old timer contingent. All views are welcome here (within reason). This is one of the few places you'll see honest discussion about what has happened in Penasco -- whether it's covered in roses or covered in warts.

I see it happen here time and time again - trying to shoot the messenger. This thread is a perfect example - what I reported initially to start this thread is information. A lot of people want to know it - geez, it's good to know that because I don't want my truck stolen. A lot of people could care a less - so what, trucks get stolen all the time. What you do with the information is totally up to you.

Then, come the opinions - good and bad. I personally don't care if you have an opinion one way or the other. You are welcome to express it (again, within reason). But you do not have to try and tear down somebody else because you don't agree with their opinion. That leads to pissing matches, everybody gets into a snit and that's generally when I close a thread -- because it's lost focus and has become nothing but personal attacks.

Your opinion obviously depends on your perspective. You can sit there with your head in the beach sand, saying "I've lived here forever and nothing's ever happened." or you can be realistic and realize that the condos and the narcos are suddenly and drastically changing things in Penasco, not necessarily for the better. What you believe is up to you.

It's my opinion - that the sudden and recent rash of truck thefts in Penasco is directly related to the narcos. The thefts are very specific and they are pulled off with precision in less than 3 minutes. The thiefs are not some crackheads or gangbanging kids that want to go for a joyride. They aren't stealing these trucks to chop-shop them for parts, either. They are professional thiefs that are stealing them with a single purpose in mind - to sell them to the cartels to move illegals and drugs over the border. It doesn't take a freakin' microscope or crystal ball to see that.

Again, you can choose to believe whatever the hell you want, I really don't care. The only thing I do care about it is that I've put the information out there and made others aware of the current situation, in detail. I've also taken the steps necessary to protect my truck from future theft. Will this stop me from going back to Penasco? No, it won't. It only makes me more determined to do everything I can to keep my truck from becoming a statistic. By the way, for all of you who profess to driving a "POS", ain't like my truck is brand new. It's 10 years old, has some dents here and there and is generally dirty and filled or covered with sand. But, it's *my* truck and I want to keep it that way! It was targeted exactly for what it is - an F-250 diesel 4x4.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...
Mentiras y Traición
Rock on, Stuart!
Jeff
:thumbsup:
Seadweller
Jeff said:
:thumbsup:


Jeff... I see your :thumbsup: and raise you a :notworthy:
InkaRoads
Yippi!!! :party:
TucsonRavelco
HAPPY sent me

So I get a phone call from Happy (I won't use his real name here) and he asked me about securing his vehicle. He told me that there was a discussion about auto thefts in Mexico and Southern Arizona. I feel strange about jumping into this discussion, but the fact is that securing vehicles from hot wiring is what I do. My name is Hampton and I own Tucson Ravelco. I won't (because I don't like to and because the product speaks for itself) hardsell anyone. Just check out www.tucsonravelco.com and if anyone has any questions about methods of securing their vehicle I will be happy to answer any questions.

P.S. I got into this business after my 2003 Dodge Ram Hemi was jacked out of Tucson in under 30 seconds. The only new truck I have ever owned. Take care.
Kenny
Use his real name, and he'll hunt you down if it takes him forever... I have a picture of him I took at the race's. I had to turn the camera around so it was pointing toward him, while pretending I was shooting toward the track to get it. We're in negotiations for it now.
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Stuart
Hi Hampton,

Welcome aboard!

Yes, nearly all of us know the "infamous" Happy of whom you speak. He's temporarily... uh... "on leave" from this forum, but he'll be back soon.

No hardsell needed for me; I've already been in touch with Clark Lund and am installing a Ravelco in my F-250 1st week of May. I'm in the Phoenix area, so I tracked down Clark to do the installation. Once that's done, I don't see any way they'll be able to steal it short of winching it up on a flatbed truck and driving it away! When that starts happening, we're all screwed.
InkaRoads
TucsonRavelco said:
So I get a phone call from Happy (I won't use his real name here)......


Do not worry attached is a picture I took of ~~~HAPPY~~~last year during the Tubac meet your neighbors party, he was having to much fun!!!! :eek3:

dirty-old-man2..jpg
Ladyjeeper
Oh, he's gonna die not being able to get into this fray! Ha Ha!
Kenny
like a kid looking through a knot hole

Ladyjeeper said:
Oh, he's gonna die not being able to get into this fray! Ha Ha!

He's like a kid looking through a knot hole because he can't get in, but trust me, he's HAPPY every time we say his name.
Eric
Ive been going to Rocky Point for 20 years now & Ive never lost a vehicle or ever had a friend loose theirs...Not saying it doesnt happen or cant happen...Vehicles get ripped off everywhere....Its funny when anything happens in Penasco paranoiya sets in fast....lol......Im sure glad you guys arent reporting how many vehicles are being ripped off in Phx everyday or how many people are killed in Phx , LA etc...It might make me nervous to drive or park my truck in Phx or go anywhere in the USA........see you on the beach......
jerry
Eric said:
Ive been going to Rocky Point for 20 years now & Ive never lost a vehicle or ever had a friend loose theirs...Not saying it doesnt happen or cant happen...Vehicles get ripped off everywhere....Its funny when anything happens in Penasco paranoiya sets in fast....lol......Im sure glad you guys arent reporting how many vehicles are being ripped off in Phx everyday or how many people are killed in Phx , LA etc...It might make me nervous to drive or park my truck in Phx or go anywhere in the USA........see you on the beach......


Welcome aboard Eric! Tell us about yourself
Submarine
The whole Phoenix comparison has got to be the most retarded argument. For one, it's completely irrelevant and invalid because the population numbers are skewed. If you want to compare to a Mexican city with comparable population, try Ciudad Juarez (and I guarantee you'll stay in Phoenix).

Who goes to Phoenix for vacation anyway?


Oh and very well said Stuart!
azbeachboy
Talk about scary... Try going fishing with Kenny & Jerry!
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Kenny
What's scary is you sitting around late at night getting **** faced, then looking at those pictures Chuck. Now you know why I didn't show for Thanksgiving this year folks.

I want to thank Ric Felder for the inspiration to wear this, my fish scarin outfit.
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dmcauley
As long as they don't think the worm is bait............
beachgirl
Thanks you guys.....................what a way to start my morning:-D I'll be snickering about this one all day long!!!!!!! You all are too funny:thumbsup:
I tip my hat to you Stuart. Thank you for your very well put (very articulate) statement. I appreciate the information. It really is the pits when it happens to anyone. We had a cd player, a cd case and a tool box stolen from our motorhome a few years back while we were down there. We left the stuff outside because we had become complacent. Now, we no longer leave things like that out. We will be coming down in a couple of weeks in our friends 2002 Chevy Silverado 4x4. Although it is not a Ford, it still will be a concern to us. But not to the point where we're going to become paranoid. This was, how do I say "a perfect time for this to happen" when it was far, far from perfect, because I like to be informed so I can make the decision on how to handle things. We will just be more vigilante in staying aware of our surroundings. (Stuart and Mark, I hope you see my point here and don't take offense to it.....I really feel for you guys).
beachgirl
I just wanted to add one more thing (really I just wanted to look at that picture again LOL).........this will be the only trip down in that truck. All future trips will be in our 2004 Honda Accord. It will be the first time in almost six years that we will be driving a somewhat nice vehicle down there. (It was a sandrail for those six years and not a nice tricked out one). As with anywhere we go, anytime, we will be cautious and aware of our surroundings. Again, I appreciate the information.
rockyptjoe
azbeachboy said:
Talk about scary... Try going fishing with Kenny & Jerry!
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Now this should be an interesting morning.....waiting for the comments from some of the other ladies......Chari, Sheryl????? :rofl:
Kenny
rockyptjoe said:
Now this should be an interesting morning.....waiting for the comments from some of the other ladies......Chari, Sheryl????? :rofl:

Yes, that is one fine looking estuary, isn't it?
jerry
It's good to know AZBeachboy has expanded his pedophilia lite nude photo collection of the drunk 15 year old girls. He enjoys photographing them exchange for new shiny beads.How many beads did you have to give for this crusty old guy shot?
Kenny are you and Happy still selling those outfits on EBAY?
TucsonRavelco
Stolen vehicles

Stuart said:
Hi Hampton,

Welcome aboard!

Yes, nearly all of us know the "infamous" Happy of whom you speak. He's temporarily... uh... "on leave" from this forum, but he'll be back soon.

No hardsell needed for me; I've already been in touch with Clark Lund and am installing a Ravelco in my F-250 1st week of May. I'm in the Phoenix area, so I tracked down Clark to do the installation. Once that's done, I don't see any way they'll be able to steal it short of winching it up on a flatbed truck and driving it away! When that starts happening, we're all screwed.

You must be the one with the 01 F250 7.3. Thats a very desirable truck. Good for you! I had a customer with the identical vehicle that he would not even drive until I installed a Ravelco in it. I installed the device and left his home at 1:00. He called me at 4:00, with news that someone tried to take the truck from Costco. They jimmied the doors and broke the ignition but they did not get the rig. He then put the Ravelco stickers in the windows.

Side note I looked at the crime records for Tucson and in one day last week I counted 13 auto thefts.
Ladyjeeper
Joe,
Sometimes it's best when you say nothing at all.......Especially when it has been beaten to death in previous threads....... :deadhorse::deadhorse: Stuart, I need the Aagh smilie!:-D:-D
playaperro
Penasco is a dumping ground for people that are upside down on their car loans.
InkaRoads
Submarine said:
The whole Phoenix comparison has got to be the most retarded argument. For one, it's completely irrelevant and invalid because the population numbers are skewed. If you want to compare to a Mexican city with comparable population, try Ciudad Juarez (and I guarantee you'll stay in Phoenix).

Who goes to Phoenix for vacation anyway?


Oh and very well said Stuart!


Well Sub, again you fall under the same category comparing apples to oranges, although Phx and CJ have about the same population, they are very different CJ has the highest number of drugs traffikers and human traffikers than PHX, unfortunatelly there is no city in USA that can be compare to any of the bordertowns/cities of Mexico, I think that that will be a better comparition, however all and all no matter where you go, USA, Mexico or China, one must be alert of the surroundings, and like Eric say enjoy the beach!!!

welcome to the forum Eric and I will see you in the beach!! :cheers:
Stuart
Yo dawg... my truck is paid for. So was Mark's. Neither of us were "dumping" anything.

That's a pretty ridiculous statement; where do you come up with this crap? If you really want to dump a vehicle, you certainly don't have to drive all the way to Penasco to do it. You can pull into any Circle K in Phoenix or Tucson, leave it running with the keys in it, and it will be gone in 60 seconds. Oh, it also helps if you leave a couple of kids in the back seat, too! That way, when the thief abandons your little rugrats a couple blocks of way, you'll get plenty of tearful news media coverage, making the story for the insurance company even more legit!

<said totally tongue in cheek; but you see exactly this on the local news about oh, once or twice a week lately>
Mentiras y Traición
Kenny said:
Yes, that is one fine looking estuary, isn't it?


What estuary?
JimMcG
When my truck was taken from my driveway, I took it VERY personally and actually tracked it down and drove it home with the ignition hanging by its wires. In retrospect, it was a good thing for the perps' and myself that I did not find them...............and then there was my own insurance company to deal with. I am not sure which was worse. There is a good argument to be made in not getting personally involved.

However, Stuart, I do know that feeling of being violated and although I consider myself pretty savvy and security conscious, every once in a while I am reminded that I have to ratchet up my security awareness.
Stuart
Point well taken, Jim. I'm in "rachet" mode and will have the truck as theft proof as possible before it crosses back over the border. As Sub mentioned earlier, it will take a gun pointed at my head this time around to get it. When that happens, I simply hand over the keys and will never return to Mexico again.

Wahoo - don't know the origins (plates) of the other 3 vehicles that were stolen.
playaperro
Sonoran Plates..
playaperro
Hey Hey now don't get upset with me like I tell my amigos don't ever take anything I say personal.
Lets brakedown my statement, I know your truck is paid for. so the jab was not thrown at you or Mark.
Don't shoot the messenger.
The jab was for Youhoo about going to the RPTimes to report the trucks stolen. They are a tourist news not a crime beat.
I call it the way I see it and I do not wear any pom poms like others on here.
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