ALL INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL. Says avoid so they're still asking, not telling. Yet. This is so surreal. Stock market crashed hard and now possibly 3 million unemployed by July. Sadly, Rocky Point will resemble 2010, 2011 again.
From RP Times earlier today...
We are very sorry to say, Its official, the beaches are closed following orders from the Health Department.
Once again we ask you to stay home, and follow the recommendations.
Order Mayor Kiko Munro shutdown of beaches of Puerto Peñasco; decree Ministry of Health Contingencia Health
• Requests State support with public force
• Says health protocols to control the covid-19 emergency are being implemented for two weeks now.
Mayor Kiko Munro ordered the closure of beaches to the public, after Secretary of Health Enrique Claussen Iberri confirmed the instruction in this regard and that health contingency would be decreed for the Sonorean coast.
The Municipal President asserted that he instructed the Municipal Police, the Tourist Assistant Unit and the Directorate of Federal Maritime Land Zone to instrumentalize the logistics necessary to start avoiding access to the coast and invite beach users to withdraw from them.
He clarified that the closure of the spas of Peñasco had not been ordered because no official decree was generated, however, as the Secretary of Health already announced it to the media, the necessary strategies will be applied to allow concentration of people on the coast.
"We obviously have the vocation to continue adding to any preventive effort, therefore we will abide by the determination and decision that the state government has made for the closure of beaches", he exposed.
He warned that, in that sense, the state authority is expected to provide accompaniment to the City Council, not only with mere instruction, but with unrestricted support.
" I would require the government of the state that as well as orally instructed, send us also state of strength to support that instruction, to cover the 110 kilometers of beach we have and protect the 6 thousand 500 rooms hotel that are already booked and the 150 thousand people expected to visit us this season ", he said.
That implies, he said, to enable hospitals and health center with medicines; to send auxiliaries to detect and care for people who could have this condition and everything that is necessary to attend the problem arising from a decision as drastic as closing of the coastal.
" It is worth throwing the ball and then not corresponding with the proportional part of responsibility; I join, reiterate, at the disposal and decree, so, with a lot of emphasis, I make the manifesto that we will coordinate in all the aspects, to seek these measures to be implemented, but we definitely cannot do it alone; full and unrestricted support from the state government and federal government is needed ".
Kiko Munro warned that the closure of beaches is a major decision and hence the importance of decreed health contingency in a formal and legal way, to operate the necessary logistics and support the productive sector of Puerto Peñasco in protection and preservation from the sources of work.
Preventive accines are two weeks old
The Municipal President stated that the health problem is being addressed in its phase 1, in accordance with the recommendations of the government of the state and promoting the #QuédateEnCasa campaign, since no case has been detected in Peñasco that presents table compatible with Coronavirus.
He ratified that in Puerto Peñasco, the extraordinary strategies of federal and State prevention are in force, as well as the World Health Organization (WHO) against the contingency derived from Covid-19.
" We have been in direct communication with representatives of the State Government to implement the protocols and take all the measures and recommendations instructed by Mrs. Governor, Claudia Pavlovich, because what we seek is to be well communicated and coordinated to keep the community well informed from Puerto Peñasco ", he said.
He detailed that the municipal government has decided the suspension of massive government public events of civic, social and cultural nature, as well as activities in sports municipal leagues and all activities in the community centers of the city hall.
In terms of tourism, he added, it was decided not to grant consent for mass events on beaches, cancel licenses for Sinaloan bands of music so traditional this time of year, remove permits for public bars in tourist areas such as 13th Street. and the Founding Malecon.
The Municipal President reiterated the call on the population to abide by the recommendations made by the Ministry of Health, especially to residents, to stay at home, if there is no preponderant activity on the public road.
These measures, he insisted, are carried out in care and follow-up to the indications made by the Intersectoral Health Table of the State Government, where the recommendations that are made will continue to implement the operational provisions required to strengthen prevention against possible infections by Covid-19.
If you are a citizen of the USA you will still be getting back to the USA anytime you need to. The border is restricted not closed except from midnight to 6 am. The word essential has been used in regards to travel. Anything can make your travel essential.
If your a US citizen Im sure you can get back in the US. But If your a Mexican citizen wanting to vacation in the US I don't think they will let you in and vise verse.
“We want to make sure that cargo continues, trade continues, heath care workers continue to be able to traverse that border. But tourism, some recreational activities and other things needs to stop during this crisis," he said.
I have my Residente Permanente but my wife does not. Wondering if We can get into Mexico not too worried about getting. Also hearing some of the resorts are shutting down?
I have my Residente Permanente but my wife does not. Wondering if We can get into Mexico not too worried about getting. Also hearing some of the resorts are shutting down?
“We want to make sure that cargo continues, trade continues, heath care workers continue to be able to traverse that border. But tourism, some recreational activities and other things needs to stop during this crisis," he said.
When was the last time crossing Lukeville in either direction, there was a line of trucks, cargo containers, medical workers, groups of students(ok groups visit ceda or shuk toak) essential for medical proceedures. Oh and the paperwork (sorry no pens!) (forms are downloaded!) What a nightmare
and delays. The main commercial crossing for trade and medical is Nogales or Juarez. "I'm visiting Sonoyta for medical purposes" Ha LOL.
"I'm visiting Penasco for education"... Sure! No Problemo! Wait till they tell you Lukeville is closed, San Luis or Nogales is open, 15 minute wait.
I'm at Playo de Oro campground with friends. We are all staying until the end of the month as scheduled.I have not seen any issues yet. Restaurants still open as well as the supermarkets.
The only thing I heard as the MX Fed. were stopping large gatherings on the beach up near the a Reef.
Americans can cross the border north bound with no issues any time.
Everyone I have spoken with says everyone is making up stuff which causes more false messages and gets people scared even more than necessary.
We are good here and heave plenty of toilet paper. lol
we have a rental in PP and have been making weekly trips with belongings for home we are building. not sure if those trips will be considered essential
Keep informed... a good source of news and info is the San Diego Tribune. www.sandiegouniontribune.com . Their city is so connected
to border issues with their employment, commerce and a major intl airport. Any border problems they are the first to report from the ground.
be safe
Keep informed... a good source of news and info is the San Diego Tribune. www.sandiegouniontribune.com . Their city is so connected
to border issues with their employment, commerce and a major intl airport. Any border problems they are the first to report from the ground.
be safe
Got a notice from my property manager that they are going to shut the water valves off as there is no renters in the foreseeable future. Usually this time of year is busy.
We could get through a slow season but what about the locals? No restaurant, bar or shopping income and what about the cleaners?
Are there enough retirees still there to help the local economy? Are the beaches closing down going to hurt things? I hope this thing passes fast.
Got a notice from my property manager that they are going to shut the water valves off as there is no renters in the foreseeable future. Usually this time of year is busy.
We could get through a slow season but what about the locals? No restaurant, bar or shopping income and what about the cleaners?
Are there enough retirees still there to help the local economy? Are the beaches closing down going to hurt things? I hope this thing passes fast.
The border being closed is hurting things. The beaches being closed doesn't help. Most tourists travel to RP for the beaches. No, a few retirees won't help the economy from free fall. Here in Vegas we are bracing for a 2008 type recession, possibly a 1929 type depression. It is going to be bad for the whole world, not just the locals in Rocky Point.
See ya Rocky Point. This is worse than the financial crisis of 2008 economically. Rocky Point will be a ghost town again unfortunately. Sad. I think reality is setting in. This is a very surreal time in American history.
I look around my hood.....I don't see people in panic mode. I just got back from grocery shopping this morning, nobody was in panic mode. There was plenty of food and plenty of toilet paper although there was a sign in English that said no more than 3 packages per cart. My friends here the locals live very close to the ground most do not have a high lifestyle so when things go downhill they can adapt more easily than if you are in a big mortgage...car payments...gotta have the newest things...mode. Take care of yourselves and don't be overly concerned about us. The town has taken harsh reality steps to combat this thing, the hood is quiet and traffic is almost non-existent. When the storm clears we will be back, better than ever. Check out the video that came out last week in response to this crisis. It is fun and up-building. VIDEO
In the US there were many people who became paper millionaires over the past 5 years and are now watching it unravel before their eyes.
How this trickles down to RP, hopefully won't destroy the economy in Mexico.
A simpler life style is very appealing right now.
Naomi and I live a very simple lifestyle. All of our obligations amount to about 850.00 usd per month. That's food, water, electric, internet...pretty much everything but travel..
.that's extra...its not for everybody but it works for us and especially now!
In the US there were many people who became paper millionaires over the past 5 years and are now watching it unravel before their eyes.
How this trickles down to RP, hopefully won't destroy the economy in Mexico.
A simpler life style is very appealing right now.
You only lose if sell , it will come back when dust settles and the election is over , my bet it will come back like gang busters . Relax !!
It always does, but this time it will be different from what happened in past downturns,
this time it's happening much, much quicker than anytime before.
Also those in power by still dragging their feet which is accelerating this mess.
It's funny we didn't hear any of this back in 2009 when the other guy was in charge and 18,000 died , hell l just got the update that 23,000 have died in this year's influenza out break , why isn't anybody talking about that??
It's funny we didn't hear any of this back in 2009 when the other guy was in charge and 18,000 died , hell l just got the update that 23,000 have died in this year's influenza out break , why isn't anybody talking about that??
Possibly because it doesn’t travel as fast as covid - 19 or could it be the virus can live on surfaces for up to 3 days. Just might be that you can be a carrier and not know. How about it take 14 days to find out if your sick. I’m sure there is a few more reason we dont here of the flu related deaths.
It's funny we didn't hear any of this back in 2009 when the other guy was in charge and 18,000 died , hell l just got the update that 23,000 have died in this year's influenza out break , why isn't anybody talking about that??
A bit more info is needed on that statement. Here is a quote from the CDC response to the H1N1 flu in 2009.
"The agency said the first case was reported on April 15, 2009, and the government declared H1N1 a public health emergency on the April 26. The first test to detect the new virus was approved by the FDA two days later. Shipments of the new CDC test began May 1".
It took Obama team 11 days to spring into action. (I'm not a big Obama fan either)
Current guy in charge was saying the CV-19 was just the flu in early Feb and by April it would be over,
NOT going to happen, it won't peak for 4-6 weeks? longer? Now 6 weeks later he changed his tune.
So compared to the 2009 we're still in the first couple of innings of the ball game. Swine flu, it took 16-18 months to run it's course
Only in 2012 did all the numbers get compiled together on how bad the 2009-10 Swine flu really was.
Npr really . 60 million infected 18,000 dead and nothing close to level of hysteria that media has put out on the airwaves . They have caused all this panic buying at the stores . I blame those fear mongers .
A bit more info is needed on that statement. Here is a quote from the CDC response to the H1N1 flu in 2009.
"The agency said the first case was reported on April 15, 2009, and the government declared H1N1 a public health emergency on the April 26. The first test to detect the new virus was approved by the FDA two days later. Shipments of the new CDC test began May 1".
It took Obama team 11 days to spring into action. (I'm not a big Obama fan either)
Current guy in charge was saying the CV-19 was just the flu in early Feb and by April it would be over,
NOT going to happen, it won't peak for 4-6 weeks? longer? Now 6 weeks later he changed his tune.
So compared to the 2009 we're still in the first couple of innings of the ball game. Swine flu, it took 16-18 months to run it's course
Only in 2012 did all the numbers get compiled together on how bad the 2009-10 Swine flu really was.
Very historically accurate article, written by an MD out of Denver. He does a comparison time-wise as to where swine flu and covid reactions were by the federal govt and the massive difference in MEDIA HYPE.
Not downplaying the seriousness of those who are seriously affected, however seems the media is playing a role with the hysteria. Fox, CNN, et al.
And the US and Penasco economy are being devastated.
Npr really . 60 million infected 18,000 dead and nothing close to level of hysteria that media has put out on the airwaves . They have caused all this panic buying at the stores . I blame those fear mongers .
I agree with you 100%. The media doesn't want you to compare so they keep this generation in the dark.
Thanks for bringing it up. No matter what the disease look at the number infected and the true deaths.
The only reason this one is different it wasn't know early enough to have shot for it.
But again the numbers are low compared to past viruses.
Everyone is forgetting to Thank the Chinese for not informing anyone when the virus was first noticed last year in Nov. Thank them also for F@!king up everyone's lives, the economy, people losing their family members, people losing their income, losing their homes and etc. And they had the gull to try blaming the US Army for infecting their country. Was eating dirty nasty bats worth all this.
A couple things to note: one of the Princess cruise ships that had some covid-19 infected passengers, still had active virus in some rooms 17 days after ship was emptied. Also, the White House closed the pandemic office and staff in 2018, as non-essential. Also ignored reports from early 2019 that a possible pandemic could cripple the country. Now half the country doesn't believe anything the other half says. Stay safe people, this will be worse before it gets better.
A couple things to note: one of the Princess cruise ships that had some covid-19 infected passengers, still had active virus in some rooms 17 days after ship was emptied. Also, the White House closed the pandemic office and staff in 2018, as non-essential. Also ignored reports from early 2019 that a possible pandemic could cripple the country. Now half the country doesn't believe anything the other half says. Stay safe people, this will be worse before it gets better.
Misinformation is tearing this country apart. Who knew that the internet and free speech would undo society?!
Misinformation DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I would suspect that if you had proof that I pushed and mislead Steve Maduro into believing and subsequently ingesting a toxic drug under false pretense and he died that I could be possibly tried for manslaughter. What is different about the girl that suggested her boyfriend kill himself? She got prison. 2 years I believe.
Ultimately I feel bad for these types. Ignoring what a DOCTOR has to say because the president knows more about anything than any of the professionals in a specific field. He knows more than the CDC, FAUCI, the top generals when the subject matter is war... the list goes on. He's a stable genius that just killed two people with misinformation.
The Russians must be having a field day right now. Sow disinformation. Let us fight ourselves. Enemy becomes weaker. Divide and conquer.
Misinformation DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I would suspect that if you had proof that I pushed and mislead Steve Maduro into believing and subsequently ingesting a toxic drug under false pretense and he died that I could be possibly tried for manslaughter. What is different about the girl that suggested her boyfriend kill himself? She got prison. 2 years I believe.
Ultimately I feel bad for these types. Ignoring what a DOCTOR has to say because the president knows more about anything than any of the professionals in a specific field. He knows more than the CDC, FAUCI, the top generals when the subject matter is war... the list goes on. He's a stable genius that just killed two people with misinformation.
The Russians must be having a field day right now. Sow disinformation. Let us fight ourselves. Enemy becomes weaker. Divide and conquer.
Stupid people gonna do stupid things. You and your fake news post is a perfect example. The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!
Actually, the Chinese (virus) is coming! The Chinese (virus) is coming!
Stupid people gonna do stupid things. You and your fake news post is a perfect example. The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!
Actually, the Chinese (virus) is coming! The Chinese (virus) is coming!
Fake news? What the hell are you talking about? This is real news that I placed a hyperlink to. If you choose to live in an alternate universe so be it but it doesn't change facts my man. Continue spouting the garbage that Putin wants you to spout. Where's Iggy and Steve M? Maybe they can chime in and help out.
Fox got real sneaky reporting this story. Took me five minutes to find it. Way too much time for the desire of a low info person like Queens. But, it was there. What does it say Queens? Care to read it to us?
Fake news? What the hell are you talking about? This is real news that I placed a hyperlink to. If you choose to live in an alternate universe so be it but it doesn't change facts my man. Continue spouting the garbage that Putin wants you to spout. Where's Iggy and Steve M? Maybe they can chime in and help out.
You have convinced me that you are truly nuts and full of hate . Reading your post tells me you have lost all reasoning and common sense . God help you .
Joe, sorry, but like all of us can do from time to time, you fell for the main stream media hysteria and their Trump Derangement Syndrome.
You posting all those stories, regardless from where they are from, just shows how irresponsible the news media can be, and how stupid people can be (to be clear, I am not saying you are stupid, but the couple who drank the fish tank cleaner).
And then the media blames everything on Trump, because people are complete idiots!?
Joe, even you have to admit these people are idiots. They went into the pantry and found something that sounded like the drug Trump was speaking of, and they took it. First of all, it was not a prescription, not suggested by a doctor, and took it while it was a cleaning substance.
If trumps press conference was so egregious, and the information he gave out so outlandishly reckless, there would be multiple, multiple cases of people drinking fish tank cleaner.
So what we have are really desperate, and or low IQ people, who drank fish tank cleaner. One case, that’s it.
Reminds me how when the virus first hit the media, corona beer sales fell 30%, and people thought they could get the virus from drinking corona beer. I’m sure this was probably Trump’s fault as well.
Come on now, you have to give this one back Joe. these people are right up there , or close to first place, for the Darwin Award!
Joe, sorry, but like all of us can do from time to time, you fell for the main stream media hysteria and their Trump Derangement Syndrome.
You posting all those stories, regardless from where they are from, just shows how irresponsible the news media can be, and how stupid people can be (to be clear, I am not saying you are stupid, but the couple who drank the fish tank cleaner).
And then the media blames everything on Trump, because people are complete idiots!?
Joe, even you have to admit these people are idiots. They went into the pantry and found something that sounded like the drug Trump was speaking of, and they took it. First of all, it was not a prescription, not suggested by a doctor, and took it while it was a cleaning substance.
If trumps press conference was so egregious, and the information he gave out so outlandishly reckless, there would be multiple, multiple cases of people drinking fish tank cleaner.
So what we have are really desperate, and or low IQ people, who drank fish tank cleaner. One case, that’s it.
Reminds me how when the virus first hit the media, corona beer sales fell 30%, and people thought they could get the virus from drinking corona beer. I’m sure this was probably Trump’s fault as well.
Come on now, you have to give this one back Joe. these people are right up there , or close to first place, for the Darwin Award!
Cant make this stuff up.
Larry, I haven't fallen for anything. I read and use discretion. I ultimately don't know as much as scientists and doctors. I listen and use best judgement. The news is NOT the enemy. I don't know what you're talking about when you say how irresponsible the media can be. First off, JOURNALISM is NOT the MEDIA. There is a difference between OP ED and JOURNALISM. I don't get facts from OP ED shows. I read JOURNALISM. Hannity is NOT news or journalism!
Again, maybe it's hard to get a point across on the internet because you're literally making my point for me. Yes, these people were morons to do that. But people that aren't as aware are taking advice from the president. Touting this as a immediate cure so of course people that aren't as smart are resorting to these measures. You can literally watch the president speak in real time so how is that MEDIA?! Please stop.
Yes, we are in agreement that it would be moronic to not CONSULT a doctor. Again, this is my point that people are consulting what the president is saying instead of the doctors standing behind him. Dr. Fauci has clarified this point multiple times now.
You have convinced me that you are truly nuts and full of hate . Reading your post tells me you have lost all reasoning and common sense . God help you .
Standard answer for you. Must have racked your brain coming up with that sentence and a half answer. An irrational person that doesn't believe in journalism and facts telling me that I'm crazy. This is why you can never win an argument with an irrational person. Steve you're great at gaslighting. I'll give you that.
You have convinced me that you are truly nuts and full of hate . Reading your post tells me you have lost all reasoning and common sense . God help you .
God doesn't exist. I have lost all reasoning and common sense because I'm advocating for the direction of the medical professionals instead of the words coming out of the presidents mouth.
You have convinced me that you are truly nuts and full of hate . Reading your post tells me you have lost all reasoning and common sense . God help you .
Hey Steve, ever considered that I'm trolling you? Or maybe you're trolling me? Maybe you're a troll and you really don't believe what you write. That would be a win win.
Larry, I haven't fallen for anything. I read and use discretion. I ultimately don't know as much as scientists and doctors. I listen and use best judgement. The news is NOT the enemy. I don't know what you're talking about when you say how irresponsible the media can be. First off, JOURNALISM is NOT the MEDIA. There is a difference between OP ED and JOURNALISM. I don't get facts from OP ED shows. I read JOURNALISM. Hannity is NOT news or journalism!
Again, maybe it's hard to get a point across on the internet because you're literally making my point for me. Yes, these people were morons to do that. But people that aren't as aware are taking advice from the president. Touting this as a immediate cure so of course people that aren't as smart are resorting to these measures. You can literally watch the president speak in real time so how is that MEDIA?! Please stop.
Yes, we are in agreement that it would be moronic to not CONSULT a doctor. Again, this is my point that people are consulting what the president is saying instead of the doctors standing behind him. Dr. Fauci has clarified this point multiple times now.
Mexico Joe said:
Larry, I haven't fallen for anything. I read and use discretion. I ultimately don't know as much as scientists and doctors. I listen and use best judgement. The news is NOT the enemy. I don't know what you're talking about when you say how irresponsible the media can be. First off, JOURNALISM is NOT the MEDIA. There is a difference between OP ED and JOURNALISM. I don't get facts from OP ED shows. I read JOURNALISM. Hannity is NOT news or journalism!
Again, maybe it's hard to get a point across on the internet because you're literally making my point for me. Yes, these people were morons to do that. But people that aren't as aware are taking advice from the president. Touting this as a immediate cure so of course people that aren't as smart are resorting to these measures. You can literally watch the president speak in real time so how is that MEDIA?! Please stop.
Yes, we are in agreement that it would be moronic to not CONSULT a doctor. Again, this is my point that people are consulting what the president is saying instead of the doctors standing behind him. Dr. Fauci has clarified this point multiple times now.
Mexico Joe said:
Larry, I haven't fallen for anything. I read and use discretion. I ultimately don't know as much as scientists and doctors. I listen and use best judgement. The news is NOT the enemy. I don't know what you're talking about when you say how irresponsible the media can be. First off, JOURNALISM is NOT the MEDIA. There is a difference between OP ED and JOURNALISM. I don't get facts from OP ED shows. I read JOURNALISM. Hannity is NOT news or journalism!
Again, maybe it's hard to get a point across on the internet because you're literally making my point for me. Yes, these people were morons to do that. But people that aren't as aware are taking advice from the president. Touting this as a immediate cure so of course people that aren't as smart are resorting to these measures. You can literally watch the president speak in real time so how is that MEDIA?! Please stop.
Yes, we are in agreement that it would be moronic to not CONSULT a doctor. Again, this is my point that people are consulting what the president is saying instead of the doctors standing behind him. Dr. Fauci has clarified this point multiple times now.
To your Last paragraph, I can’t help what stupid people do. The president has a duty to talk about all options out there, and if someone is going to drink fish tank cleaner, then they’re going to drink fish tank cleaner.
If the President said it’s good to go take a walk, it’s good to exercise, and someone walked into head on traffic and was killed, he would be blamed for telling people to go take a walk and told by someone like yourself, that was irresponsible. He can’t win.
To be clear, only 1 couple was dumb enough to drink fish tank cleaner. Not a great sample size to say the President talking about a possible treatment or medication was irresponsible.
And, after a French Dr.’s utilization of the prescription drug combo has been successful, if Trump did not mention it he would be lambasted for not mentioning it.
And this guy and his friends and family heard Trump’s press conference clearly, and it saved his life. And they didn’t even have to go to the fish store for help.
Really need to bite the bullet on this and shut everything down for 3 weeks, Not the popular choice but what's really needed,
so we're not bitching about this in June.
Cree Hardegree
March 21 at 7:51 PM
The Great Atlanta Flood dropped 20 inches of rain on my home in 20 hours in September 2009. Electrical poles were uprooted shutting off our power. Four days of non-stop rain raised the rivers and overwhelmed the sewer capacity; main pipes burst all over the county cutting off our water supply; roads washed out locking us into our homes. I emptied our 90 gallon trash receptable, held a 5 gallon bucket under the gutter spout and dumped the water into the trash receptacle, 30 times or so; we used that to flush toilets over the next eight days when we had no water.
Down the street an 18 year-old college student called her daddy from inside her vehicle that had been swept off the road into a “lake” that had formed in the large ditch along the side of the road. She either couldn’t, or didn’t think of, rolling the window down. That was their last conversation. Ever.
She was one of 10 people who died in that 2009 flood.
But did we blame those deaths on President Obama?
Of course not; there was nothing he had done wrong to cause those ten deaths.
But wait… four years earlier, we blamed Bush for many of the deaths in the flooding that occurred in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
Isn’t this the same thing? If Bush was responsible for his inept and incompetent response to the Katrina flooding, shouldn’t we blame President Obama for The Great Atlanta Flood of 2009?
Of course not. Not even Republicans (at that time) were fool-headed enough to try to blame the The Great Atlanta Flood on President Obama.
Because the only thing the two situations had in common, was water.
Just like the only thing Trump's 2020 Covid-19 has in common with Obama's 2009 H1N1 swine flu, is snot.
A handkerchief full of snot.
That’s all.
If you want to identify who among us is a stark raving ignorant-headed imbecile, look for the blubbering fool who says, “Now do N1H1,” as a response to you pointing out how President Obama abated EBOLA and Trump exacerbated COVID.
Other ignorant utterances by idiotic imbeciles:
“What about the 12,000 people President Obama let die of the swine flu?”
“President Obama let 1,000 people die of the swine flu before he deployed the CDC.”
This is the biggest boondoggle of bogus batshit ever spread by brain-dead Trumpers.
Some medical stuff for you:
* H1N1 Swine Flu
* H1N1 Seasonal Flu
* H1N1 Influenza B
* H3N2 Influenza A
* H3N2 Seasonal Flu
All of it — ALL OF IT, FOLKS — is “the flu.”
For all purposes except formulating the annual "flu shot" and preserving statistical research, there is no difference whatsoever between “swine flu” and common “seasonal flu.”
None.
NONE.
The SYMPTOMS of swine and seasonal are identical.
The TREATMENT for swine and seasonal is identical.
The FATALITY RATE for swine and seasonal is identical.
The THROAT/NASAL SWABS for swine and seasonal are indistinguishable.
EVERY YEAR, “the flu” kills between 3,300 and 49,000 people in America.
Every year.
And we don’t blame presidents because the flu is an unavoidable routine sickness for which we have no advance notice and for which we have treatments and vaccines and an extremely low fatality rate.
We had a flu epidemic in the 2007-2008 season and we did not blame Bush for it.
The most flu deaths in one season in the past few years was 48,000 deaths in 2004 when Bush was president.
And we did not blame Bush for the 48,000 flu deaths on his watch in 2004.
WE DO NOT BLAME PRESIDENTS FOR THE FLU-SEASON EACH YEAR.
There are four reasons for that:
1.) Regardless of who is in office, each year WE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to mitigate the flu. Each season, “the flu” includes many different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu. Prior to each season, epidemiologists try to guess which strains are going to circulate so they can formulate a season-specific vaccine. In 2009, they missed a particular strain of swine, just as they miss strains every year — it’s not an exact science.
2.) “The flu” is NOT AN UNCOMMON VIRUS for which we have a three-month ADVANCED WARNING of a highly contagious and highly lethal virus on the way, where different presidents can opt to act different ways, like Obama abating EBOLA and Trump exacerbating COVID — there is no specific window of opportunity to block different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu before entry into our country; and, they often BEGIN in our country.
3.) There is no known identified “INDEX PERSON” carrying "the flu" (swine or seasonal), who we can quarantine like Obama did with the EBOLA index person and Trump failed to do with COVID index person — there is no specific window of opportunity to quarantine a first carrier.
4.) There is NO SPECIFIC DIAGNOSIS POINT where a particular strain of flu can be identified before it has already circulated. This is because the symptoms are IDENTICAL between all strains of swine flu and seasonal flu; meaning, different strains have already spread before they are even identified, because the first cases of flu each year are usually diagnosed as "seasonal flu" since that is the most common, and it is usually after-the-fact, when epidemiologists reverse-track the strains at the end of each season, that we discover the different strains that started out the season.
And it DOES NOT MATTER that we don’t have an index person or a specific diagnosis point before a strain has already spread each year, because CONTAINMENT PROTOCOLS and TREATMENT PROTOCOLS and FATALITY RATES are exactly the same, regardless of the strain of swine flu or seasonal flu — NOTHING would be done ANY DIFFERENTLY if one particular strain were to be identified over another at the beginning of the season.
WE DO NOT SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY FOR THE FLU SEASON EACH YEAR.
There are three reasons for that:
1.) Swine and seasonal flus are COMPLETELY TREATABLE with antivirals like Tamiflu and Xofluza; a diagnosis of "the flu" is not even close to being a death sentence. Obama’s EBOLA and Trump’s COVID are not treatable.
2.) We have a PREVENTATIVE VACCINE for the different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu. There is no vaccine for Obama’s EBOLA and Trump’s COVID.
3.) The fatality rate for the flu (.02%) is exactly the same for both swine flu and seasonal flu and is only a FRACTION OF THE FATALITY RATE for Obama’s EBOLA (50%) and Trump’s COVID (3.5%).
To get from .02% fatality rate for swine and seasonal flus to the 3.5% fatality rate for Trump’s COVID, you have to multiply .02 by 175. This means if the 2009 swine flu had the same fatality rate as Trump’s COVID, instead of 12,000 dying in 2009, that number would have been 2.1 million (12,000 x 175). If President Obama had been facing a fatality rate with the swine flu in 2009 that was as high as the rate for Trump's COVID, shutting down the country possibly would have been a consideration.
But President Obama didn't even shut the country down when he was dealing with the *MUCH* more lethal EBOLA virus.
EBOLA, with a 50% fatality rate, is 2,500 times more lethal than swine flu and seasonal flu (.02% x 2,500 = 50%). If the 2009 swine flu had the same fatality rate as EBOLA, the number of deaths would have been 30 million instead of 12,000 (12,000 x 2,500).
Instead of shutting down the country, President Obama deployed resources to the originating-country three months before the virus arrived on our shores and he prepared here at home, insted of mocking here at home.
When two cases of EBOLA came into the country, he confined the spread to an additional two cases for a total of FOUR cases, which drove conservatives and Fox to scream about President Obama trying to "intentionally spread EBOLA to make America like West Africa since that is where he is from."
Trump's sin was scoffing at the coming COVID instead of preparing for it, even though our intelligence community was telling him in January how bad it was going to be. With that foreknowledge of certain coming disaster, he continued calling it a hoax and members of congress began quietly selling off their stock, while they, also, lied to the Ameican public by claiming it was all a mere overblown tale to try to make Trump look bad.
Republicans speak in single-word code. “Benghazi” means a 34-volume encyclopedia set’s worth of lies and misinformation to them. Same for “emails” and “fast and furious” and “Burisma.”
And now, “H1N1.”
A lie is half way around the world before the truth gets its boots on.
Unless conservatives are true intellectuals interested in the truth (costal property in Kansas, etc.) it is impossible to show them the truth.
Please share this far and wide; feel free to condense portions or cut small portions to be used as rebuttals in comment threads where conservatives say “Cool. Now do H1N1” and other asinine statements trying to liken a regular flu season in 2009 to Trump’s criminally-negligent response to COVID in 2020. I only ask that you tag me so people can come here for the original.
And please always refer to Covid-19 as “Trump’s Covid-19” because he and his failed presidency are solely responsible for it spreading inside our borders.
Cree Hardegree
March 21 at 7:51 PM
The Great Atlanta Flood dropped 20 inches of rain on my home in 20 hours in September 2009. Electrical poles were uprooted shutting off our power. Four days of non-stop rain raised the rivers and overwhelmed the sewer capacity; main pipes burst all over the county cutting off our water supply; roads washed out locking us into our homes. I emptied our 90 gallon trash receptable, held a 5 gallon bucket under the gutter spout and dumped the water into the trash receptacle, 30 times or so; we used that to flush toilets over the next eight days when we had no water.
Down the street an 18 year-old college student called her daddy from inside her vehicle that had been swept off the road into a “lake” that had formed in the large ditch along the side of the road. She either couldn’t, or didn’t think of, rolling the window down. That was their last conversation. Ever.
She was one of 10 people who died in that 2009 flood.
But did we blame those deaths on President Obama?
Of course not; there was nothing he had done wrong to cause those ten deaths.
But wait… four years earlier, we blamed Bush for many of the deaths in the flooding that occurred in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
Isn’t this the same thing? If Bush was responsible for his inept and incompetent response to the Katrina flooding, shouldn’t we blame President Obama for The Great Atlanta Flood of 2009?
Of course not. Not even Republicans (at that time) were fool-headed enough to try to blame the The Great Atlanta Flood on President Obama.
Because the only thing the two situations had in common, was water.
Just like the only thing Trump's 2020 Covid-19 has in common with Obama's 2009 H1N1 swine flu, is snot.
A handkerchief full of snot.
That’s all.
If you want to identify who among us is a stark raving ignorant-headed imbecile, look for the blubbering fool who says, “Now do N1H1,” as a response to you pointing out how President Obama abated EBOLA and Trump exacerbated COVID.
Other ignorant utterances by idiotic imbeciles:
“What about the 12,000 people President Obama let die of the swine flu?”
“President Obama let 1,000 people die of the swine flu before he deployed the CDC.”
This is the biggest boondoggle of bogus batshit ever spread by brain-dead Trumpers.
Some medical stuff for you:
* H1N1 Swine Flu
* H1N1 Seasonal Flu
* H1N1 Influenza B
* H3N2 Influenza A
* H3N2 Seasonal Flu
All of it — ALL OF IT, FOLKS — is “the flu.”
For all purposes except formulating the annual "flu shot" and preserving statistical research, there is no difference whatsoever between “swine flu” and common “seasonal flu.”
None.
NONE.
The SYMPTOMS of swine and seasonal are identical.
The TREATMENT for swine and seasonal is identical.
The FATALITY RATE for swine and seasonal is identical.
The THROAT/NASAL SWABS for swine and seasonal are indistinguishable.
EVERY YEAR, “the flu” kills between 3,300 and 49,000 people in America.
Every year.
And we don’t blame presidents because the flu is an unavoidable routine sickness for which we have no advance notice and for which we have treatments and vaccines and an extremely low fatality rate.
We had a flu epidemic in the 2007-2008 season and we did not blame Bush for it.
The most flu deaths in one season in the past few years was 48,000 deaths in 2004 when Bush was president.
And we did not blame Bush for the 48,000 flu deaths on his watch in 2004.
WE DO NOT BLAME PRESIDENTS FOR THE FLU-SEASON EACH YEAR.
There are four reasons for that:
1.) Regardless of who is in office, each year WE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to mitigate the flu. Each season, “the flu” includes many different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu. Prior to each season, epidemiologists try to guess which strains are going to circulate so they can formulate a season-specific vaccine. In 2009, they missed a particular strain of swine, just as they miss strains every year — it’s not an exact science.
2.) “The flu” is NOT AN UNCOMMON VIRUS for which we have a three-month ADVANCED WARNING of a highly contagious and highly lethal virus on the way, where different presidents can opt to act different ways, like Obama abating EBOLA and Trump exacerbating COVID — there is no specific window of opportunity to block different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu before entry into our country; and, they often BEGIN in our country.
3.) There is no known identified “INDEX PERSON” carrying "the flu" (swine or seasonal), who we can quarantine like Obama did with the EBOLA index person and Trump failed to do with COVID index person — there is no specific window of opportunity to quarantine a first carrier.
4.) There is NO SPECIFIC DIAGNOSIS POINT where a particular strain of flu can be identified before it has already circulated. This is because the symptoms are IDENTICAL between all strains of swine flu and seasonal flu; meaning, different strains have already spread before they are even identified, because the first cases of flu each year are usually diagnosed as "seasonal flu" since that is the most common, and it is usually after-the-fact, when epidemiologists reverse-track the strains at the end of each season, that we discover the different strains that started out the season.
And it DOES NOT MATTER that we don’t have an index person or a specific diagnosis point before a strain has already spread each year, because CONTAINMENT PROTOCOLS and TREATMENT PROTOCOLS and FATALITY RATES are exactly the same, regardless of the strain of swine flu or seasonal flu — NOTHING would be done ANY DIFFERENTLY if one particular strain were to be identified over another at the beginning of the season.
WE DO NOT SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY FOR THE FLU SEASON EACH YEAR.
There are three reasons for that:
1.) Swine and seasonal flus are COMPLETELY TREATABLE with antivirals like Tamiflu and Xofluza; a diagnosis of "the flu" is not even close to being a death sentence. Obama’s EBOLA and Trump’s COVID are not treatable.
2.) We have a PREVENTATIVE VACCINE for the different strains of swine flu and seasonal flu. There is no vaccine for Obama’s EBOLA and Trump’s COVID.
3.) The fatality rate for the flu (.02%) is exactly the same for both swine flu and seasonal flu and is only a FRACTION OF THE FATALITY RATE for Obama’s EBOLA (50%) and Trump’s COVID (3.5%).
To get from .02% fatality rate for swine and seasonal flus to the 3.5% fatality rate for Trump’s COVID, you have to multiply .02 by 175. This means if the 2009 swine flu had the same fatality rate as Trump’s COVID, instead of 12,000 dying in 2009, that number would have been 2.1 million (12,000 x 175). If President Obama had been facing a fatality rate with the swine flu in 2009 that was as high as the rate for Trump's COVID, shutting down the country possibly would have been a consideration.
But President Obama didn't even shut the country down when he was dealing with the *MUCH* more lethal EBOLA virus.
EBOLA, with a 50% fatality rate, is 2,500 times more lethal than swine flu and seasonal flu (.02% x 2,500 = 50%). If the 2009 swine flu had the same fatality rate as EBOLA, the number of deaths would have been 30 million instead of 12,000 (12,000 x 2,500).
Instead of shutting down the country, President Obama deployed resources to the originating-country three months before the virus arrived on our shores and he prepared here at home, insted of mocking here at home.
When two cases of EBOLA came into the country, he confined the spread to an additional two cases for a total of FOUR cases, which drove conservatives and Fox to scream about President Obama trying to "intentionally spread EBOLA to make America like West Africa since that is where he is from."
Trump's sin was scoffing at the coming COVID instead of preparing for it, even though our intelligence community was telling him in January how bad it was going to be. With that foreknowledge of certain coming disaster, he continued calling it a hoax and members of congress began quietly selling off their stock, while they, also, lied to the Ameican public by claiming it was all a mere overblown tale to try to make Trump look bad.
Republicans speak in single-word code. “Benghazi” means a 34-volume encyclopedia set’s worth of lies and misinformation to them. Same for “emails” and “fast and furious” and “Burisma.”
And now, “H1N1.”
A lie is half way around the world before the truth gets its boots on.
Unless conservatives are true intellectuals interested in the truth (costal property in Kansas, etc.) it is impossible to show them the truth.
Please share this far and wide; feel free to condense portions or cut small portions to be used as rebuttals in comment threads where conservatives say “Cool. Now do H1N1” and other asinine statements trying to liken a regular flu season in 2009 to Trump’s criminally-negligent response to COVID in 2020. I only ask that you tag me so people can come here for the original.
And please always refer to Covid-19 as “Trump’s Covid-19” because he and his failed presidency are solely responsible for it spreading inside our borders.
To your Last paragraph, I can’t help what stupid people do. The president has a duty to talk about all options out there, and if someone is going to drink fish tank cleaner, then they’re going to drink fish tank cleaner.
If the President said it’s good to go take a walk, it’s good to exercise, and someone walked into head on traffic and was killed, he would be blamed for telling people to go take a walk and told by someone like yourself, that was irresponsible. He can’t win.
To be clear, only 1 couple was dumb enough to drink fish tank cleaner. Not a great sample size to say the President talking about a possible treatment or medication was irresponsible.
And, after a French Dr.’s utilization of the prescription drug combo has been successful, if Trump did not mention it he would be lambasted for not mentioning it.
And this guy and his friends and family heard Trump’s press conference clearly, and it saved his life. And they didn’t even have to go to the fish store for help.
Again, Dr Fauci already acknowledged that it very well may work in some "portion" of the sample size. That's not how the FDA works. There are many drugs that will work for certain individuals. If 10/100 experience complete relief what is the other 90%? Side effects? Severity? Efficacy rate? That's where trials come in to see how and what the side effects are. Dr Fauci already acknowledged that it is possible for it to be an alternate treatment but that he couldn't recommend using it until more trial data is reviewed. It could also do the complete opposite in another patient. That's how pharmacology works.
What do you want me to do? I believe in facts so if it worked for that guy we can agree that it worked for that guy. If two weeks from now they come out and unequivocally say that it works and is a safe alternative then you saved the world and I will thank you.
Again, Dr Fauci already acknowledged that it very well may work in some "portion" of the sample size. That's not how the FDA works. There are many drugs that will work for certain individuals. If 10/100 experience complete relief what is the other 90%? Side effects? Severity? Efficacy rate? That's where trials come in to see how and what the side effects are. Dr Fauci already acknowledged that it is possible for it to be an alternate treatment but that he couldn't recommend using it until more trial data is reviewed. It could also do the complete opposite in another patient. That's how pharmacology works.
What do you want me to do? I believe in facts so if it worked for that guy we can agree that it worked for that guy. If two weeks from now they come out and unequivocally say that it works and is a safe alternative then you saved the world and I will thank you.
You have an extremely serious case of TDS. What scares me is there are many more just like you. My advice, consume less main stream media. They are feeding your TDS. Just pure hatred.
You have an extremely serious case of TDS. What scares me is there are many more just like you. My advice, consume less main stream media. They are feeding your TDS. Just pure hatred.
Is Fox news considered main stream media ?
Well aware how this has been down played. Regardless of TDS.
AMLO is fucking up hard. I feel bad when reality hits Mexico.
Nobody knows what to do. Our local government and I mean at the state level is taking this very seriously. When they cancelled Semana Santa (100,000) plus tourist who spend tons of money here you know they are serious. Our Mermaids Market is closed, the Oaxacan street fair was cancelled which is a big event. Beaches closed most restaurants that are not closed are take out only or max 10 at a time inside....it is taken very seriously. Naomi and I are in our 10th day of self isolation but we will go out for a walk today. I would rather be here with its screw ups than in a city that hoards paper and food because they are so scared.
Question to anyone living in PP or who has been there recently: To what extent are the beaches closed? Is it to the point where they literally will not let anyone step foot on the beach in any place along the ocean (i.e. public beaches, condos, houses)? Or are they just banning large groups of people from congregating? (i.e. semana santa style where there are hundreds if not thousands of people crammed together)
I was just wondering to what degree they are enforcing the ban. Thanks in advance!
Question to anyone living in PP or who has been there recently: To what extent are the beaches closed? Is it to the point where they literally will not let anyone step foot on the beach in any place along the ocean (i.e. public beaches, condos, houses)? Or are they just banning large groups of people from congregating? (i.e. semana santa style where there are hundreds if not thousands of people crammed together)
I was just wondering to what degree they are enforcing the ban. Thanks in advance!
Another poster reports the policia are running atv patrols on the beach. If they catch you on the beach, they take your picture, kick you out and threaten 36 hours in the gray bar hotel if caught again.
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't really understand what closing the beaches will accomplish. Typically you have some couples or small family groups separated but fairly large distances which to me doesn't seem very risky. Of course as mentioned above, the Semana Santa type situation is different. Maybe the police wanted to get some practice in before that starts.
Question to anyone living in PP or who has been there recently: To what extent are the beaches closed? Is it to the point where they literally will not let anyone step foot on the beach in any place along the ocean (i.e. public beaches, condos, houses)? Or are they just banning large groups of people from congregating? (i.e. semana santa style where there are hundreds if not thousands of people crammed together)
I was just wondering to what degree they are enforcing the ban. Thanks in advance!
nobody on the beach today at Sandy beach and yes police are patrolling...it is serious!
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't really understand what closing the beaches will accomplish. Typically you have some couples or small family groups separated but fairly large distances which to me doesn't seem very risky. Of course as mentioned above, the Semana Santa type situation is different. Maybe the police wanted to get some practice in before that starts.
People come to spend time on the beach. Take the beach away and who wants to come down.
"I was just wondering to what degree they are enforcing the ban. Thanks in advance! "
From what I saw on Tuesday, they are taking it very serious. I stood on the boardwalk at the Playa Bonita RV park ,which is very,very empty, and couldn't see anyone on the beaches. Only thing are the policia on their ATV's.
So, as Dirty Harry said "Do you feel lucky punk, well do you?"
As of 8 pm Wednesday night March 25th there is a National curfew, individually locally managed from 8 pm until 6 am. If you don't have business outside you will be told to go home. Serious stuff? Yes I think so....What are they doing where you live? I think they are being tough...for the right reason.
From watching news clips from Mexico. The President must have an ace up his sleeve or he lost his mind. He's have rallies telling people nothing to worry about and shaking hands touching peoples faces.
He either has a big supply of the two drugs or a screw came lose. There still 5 more days of the 15 day try to self isolate left. We are trying to order things we need or place an order for pick up at the stores. Today Walgreens will start having drive thru shopping. My daughter lost her job at a fast food place, not enough costumers buying from curb side pick up. Construction doesn't seem to be impacted everyone is staying clear from one another and dust masks are being worn. Soap and water or hand sanitizers are provided and anyone showing signs of being sick are being sent home. New York is in real bad shape.
A woman in Columbia broke the quarantine and was humiliated on TV then she will be doing some time in prison. Nuts. California people are not lisening and gathering at parks with other groups of people. Stores are still bare around me.
Heard from a friend yesterday that she was the only one on Sandy beach in front of the resorts. Policia came over and told her to immediately leave. Cant be mad at the policia its not their decision. Wondering how semana santa going to shape. Are the beaches being shut down to discourage tourist from coming?
Its the same in the US and all over the world beach's, casinos, movie theaters. Any place where groups of people could gather are closed. Its not to detour visitors its a health order.
Heard from a friend yesterday that she was the only one on Sandy beach in front of the resorts. Policia came over and told her to immediately leave. Cant be mad at the policia its not their decision. Wondering how semana santa going to shape. Are the beaches being shut down to discourage tourist from coming?
Nobody knows what to do. Our local government and I mean at the state level is taking this very seriously. When they cancelled Semana Santa (100,000) plus tourist who spend tons of money here you know they are serious. Our Mermaids Market is closed, the Oaxacan street fair was cancelled which is a big event. Beaches closed most restaurants that are not closed are take out only or max 10 at a time inside....it is taken very seriously. Naomi and I are in our 10th day of self isolation but we will go out for a walk today. I would rather be here with its screw ups than in a city that hoards paper and food because they are so scared.
Poor reasoning Russ. The only number you should be concerned with is how many beds and ventilators the city has. What are the hundreds of people that become ill going to do when the 1 ventilator is in use? Major US cities are running out of supplies, what does that mean for a place like RP in the middle of the desert in Sonora? Where are patients getting shipped to? Mexicali? San Luis? Hermosillo? This is about mitigating risk. How can you start to mitigate risk when AMLO is going out telling people to "hug each other"?
This virus is like a biological weapon that China deployed.
On themselves and their allies and the rest of the world... When you tell yourself these ridiculous theories, do you ever ask what is the end game? Take any conspiracy theory and ask what was the end game? As in MOTIVE?!
First trial started Tuesday in New York... only time will tell which of these theories is correct. Obviously if it doesn't work for the president you'll never hear him say he was wrong. You will however hear it from me. That's how rational people operate.
Poor reasoning Russ. The only number you should be concerned with is how many beds and ventilators the city has. What are the hundreds of people that become ill going to do when the 1 ventilator is in use? Major US cities are running out of supplies, what does that mean for a place like RP in the middle of the desert in Sonora? Where are patients getting shipped to? Mexicali? San Luis? Hermosillo? This is about mitigating risk. How can you start to mitigate risk when AMLO is going out telling people to "hug each other"?
I don't think that is my concern, we were told what to do by the government that we live under and we are doing that. I can't help how many ventilators there are here anymore than you can help how many thousands are sick where you live so get off your high horse...We are doing what we are told to do. Mitigation by distancing and quarantining.
First trial started Tuesday in New York... only time will tell which of these theories is correct. Obviously if it doesn't work for the president you'll never hear him say he was wrong. You will however hear it from me. That's how rational people operate.
First trial started Tuesday in New York... only time will tell which of these theories is correct. Obviously if it doesn't work for the president you'll never hear him say he was wrong. You will however hear it from me. That's how rational people operate.
I have a hard time understanding people like you Joe. But there are so many, that’s why it is confusing....
you consider yourself a “rational person”, so why would you not root for the drug that Trump is suggesting to succeed??
and why would you ‘let him hear it’, or give him shit, if it fails ??
The converse is also true, if he didn’t mention the drug and somebody else ended up bringing it out and it saved lives, you would hammer Trump for not initiating trying the dug.
I have a hard time understanding people like you Joe. But there are so many, that’s why it is confusing....
you consider yourself a “rational person”, so why would you not root for the drug that Trump is suggesting to succeed??
and why would you ‘let him hear it’, or give him shit, if it fails ??
The converse is also true, if he didn’t mention the drug and somebody else ended up bringing it out and it saved lives, you would hammer Trump for not initiating trying the dug.
CNN does this on an hourly basis.
TDS I guess ...
I call bullshit. You think Trump gives a rats ass about you. All he cares about is how history will be written. Really you think this dork came to realize that a malaria drug is going to fix the US because he brought it up in a news conference. Who the fuck filled his tiny stupid head with this information. I’m sorry but the entire world is laughing at your moron of a commander in chief. Very sad. To all that disagree run to the bodega and load up on toilet paper and run back to Arizona. What ever you do please tip the baggers at leys. Morons the whole damn bunch of you.
I call bullshit. You think Trump gives a rats ass about you. All he cares about is how history will be written. Really you think this dork came to realize that a malaria drug is going to fix the US because he brought it up in a news conference. Who the fuck filled his tiny stupid head with this information. I’m sorry but the entire world is laughing at your moron of a commander in chief. Very sad. To all that disagree run to the bodega and load up on toilet paper and run back to Arizona. What ever you do please tip the baggers at leys. Morons the whole damn bunch of you.
I think you have cheddar on the brain. At least you don't claim to be rational. Another severe case of TDS. We will pray for you.
I call bullshit. You think Trump gives a rats ass about you. All he cares about is how history will be written. Really you think this dork came to realize that a malaria drug is going to fix the US because he brought it up in a news conference. Who the fuck filled his tiny stupid head with this information. I’m sorry but the entire world is laughing at your moron of a commander in chief. Very sad. To all that disagree run to the bodega and load up on toilet paper and run back to Arizona. What ever you do please tip the baggers at leys. Morons the whole damn bunch of you.
You guys are filled with so much hate that you can't see straight . Lost soles all . What my concern is what is going to go you when he's reelected in November . God help you .