Bodies Found

Does anyone have any info on the 13 bodies that were discovered??

Body count is now 42

42+ is a lot of missing people. I’ve never heard of any missing gringos. Maybe some could be migrants, but even 3 or 4 missing locals should have made the news. Obviously this group was out looking for missing family members, so they knew something I didn’t.

Sooo this was South Phoenix right?
LMAO the cheerleaders are waking up with a headache today!

Idyllwild said:

42+ is a lot of missing people. I’ve never heard of any missing gringos. Maybe some could be migrants, but even 3 or 4 missing locals should have made the news. Obviously this group was out looking for missing family members, so they knew something I didn’t.

Can someone please provide some detail, additional info, story lines ?

Haven’t heard anything about this.

Thank you

rplarry said:

Can someone please provide some detail, additional info, story lines ?

Haven’t heard anything about this.

Thank you

I guess I was late to the news. Here is an article for those who might not have heard

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/searchers-say-42-bodies-found-in-rocky-point

Mass grave was discovered half way down the road to the oyster farm and then 1/4 mile south on a cross road.

Idyllwild said:

42+ is a lot of missing people. I’ve never heard of any missing gringos. Maybe some could be migrants, but even 3 or 4 missing locals should have made the news. Obviously this group was out looking for missing family members, so they knew something I didn’t.

That was my reaction. Does not say how long they were searching but that number found in 3 days? They must have had some information. There have been stories about how bodies end up out in the desert. I'm not gonna repeat them though !!

Recent.https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2019/10/26/number-bodies-found-mass-grave-near-rocky-point-puerto-penasco-mexico-rises-42/2476140001/

Of course all of the MORONS are coming out of the woodwork talking about, "this is why if I want to use the beach I drive to California...". Idiots. The never Mexico folk. High horse dumb asses that have no idea what they're talking about.

Not much news today. Very sad.

Mexico Joe said:

Of course all of the MORONS are coming out of the woodwork talking about, "this is why if I want to use the beach I drive to California...". Idiots. The never Mexico folk. High horse dumb asses that have no idea what they're talking about.

Mexico Joe said:

Of course all of the MORONS are coming out of the woodwork talking about, "this is why if I want to use the beach I drive to California...". Idiots. The never Mexico folk. High horse dumb asses that have no idea what they're talking about.

In reality the count would be almost an average weekend in Chicago.

dirtsurfer said:

In reality the count would be almost an average weekend in Chicago.

Come on, only about 11 homicides per week, only 561 last year, they're trying. Sad that anyone has to be killed anywhere.

brokenwave said:

Come on, only about 11 homicides per week, only 561 last year, they're trying. Sad that anyone has to be killed anywhere.

My niece is an ER doc in Chicago and although my death count comparison may be off the number of people shot but not killed in Chicago is a much higher number. I believe that on both sides of the border the death count would change along with the dynamic if all drugs were legalized.

Been here at the beach since Saturday morning and there is little to no concern by the locals here. Bigger story in the States apparently.

It's a big story everywhere because of its shock value. Look up how many people are missing in the USA at any given moment in time. It is estimated that 90,000 people or more are missing. Many are found but many are not found, where are they?
It is disturbing to us that this happened or happens but it is unique to a limited portion of our population. The saying when translated from Spanish makes sense....."If you don't touch it..... it won't touch you, however if you touch it.....it becomes you" it's sad but true

dirtsurfer said:

My niece is an ER doc in Chicago and although my death count comparison may be off the number of people shot but not killed in Chicago is a much higher number. I believe that on both sides of the border the death count would change along with the dynamic if all drugs were legalized.

I definitely feel more at ease in Penasco than most big US cities. The gang activity in those places is bad.
What Russ said is so true.

Be real. If a US resort community the same size as Penosco had the same thing happen the news would be much more dramatic. But because it happened in a resort community in Mexico it's not spun up like in the US because this IS the norm in Mexico. Just another "Move on folks, nothing to see here "

Here is just released homicide data on the 50 “most dangerous“ metropolitan areas in Mexico.

https://elcri.men/en/municipios-mas-violentos.html

Many of these are coastal tourist destinations.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coastal-tourist-destinations-among-most-violent-locations/

The mass grave may not help our next ranking, but we look pretty good compared to some of the alternatives like Rosarito.

Let's see, the total travel time is the same, I'm just not waiting in line for 2+ hours,
Rental rates are pretty close
Getting tough to justify RP sometimes.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-fbi-crime-20180925-story.html

Or I could join the dozens of people who vacation at the rough areas of Chicago. SMH

Just to put things in perspective, Mexico ranks 22nd in the world for homicide rates at 21.5 per 100,000 population. The US ranks 111th with a rate of 4.7 per 100K. Just sayin'...

I agree with Petros. If 42 bodies were dug up in Ft. Lauderdale, the entire US would know it. And we might even find out who was behind it.

Say what you want about Chicago, but I've never known Chicago to put on a show like they saw in Culiacan the other day.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexicos-culiacan-tries-to-regroup-after-fierce-gunbattles/2019/10/28/22bd793e-f93d-11e9-9e02-1d45cb3dfa8f_story.html

There are 2 sides to the Mexico violence "argument" that can both be true at the same time:
(A) certain types of shocking events such as mass graves/assassination of public officials/etc are unthinkable to the average US observer and are symbolic of sickening levels of corruption and impunity in Mexico
(B) 99% of the victims in these shocking events were involved in the drug trade in one way or another (either participating in it or fighting against it) and thus the potential risk to the average guy walking down the Malecon with a beer is almost invisibly low.
As I said, it is possible (and I think likely) that both (A) and (B) are true at the same time.

I agree that A and B are both generally true, which is why I still go to Mexico. But I don't like hearing the US is just as dangerous because that simply isn't true. One rule applies in both countries. If you live a high risk lifestyle (drug dealing, gang membership, etc.), you're far, far more likely to be killed than if you have a more conventional lifestyle. In Mexico and other Latin American countries, criminal gangs have become so entrenched and pervasive that far more people are living that lifestyle even though many probably didn't choose it. I've read that many Mexicans feel their government leans too heavily on victims' involvement in illegal activities as an excuse for rampant murder. Mexico needs to complete re-tool its criminal justice system from the courts through the police and into the prisons. Most Latin American countries have about a 98% "impunity rate" meaning that for every serious crime (murder, rape, armed robbery and assault) reported, 98% don't result in anyone being punished. Mexico is no exception. Simply put, they haven't caught and locked enough of the bad guys. Instead the bad guys remain out there running around free and the poison just spreads.

Meanwhile, in this country a criminal justice "reform" movement is trying to convince us we have too many people locked up and that's unfair, inhumane and expensive. Bleeding heart Democrats are pushing it and tightwad Republicans who never saw a public expenditure they wouldn't like to cut are getting on board. Pretty soon we'll have more sh*tbirds on our streets too.

Many of the bodies here in the USA are dumped into commercial trash bins out of convenience.
At the collection stations hubs in Phx and other cities bodies are found regularly.
Talk to some of the workers at them, they have many stories to tell.

Written by a Mexican friend of mine here in Peñasco on this subject.


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Good job Russ! You were able to dehumanize the people found dead without a thought, and then throw in a little commercial as a kicker. Bravo.

Kenny said:

Good job Russ! You were able to dehumanize the people found dead without a thought, and then throw in a little commercial as a kicker. Bravo.

just sharing the local sentiment not my post just a share but hey at least you got to call me out on it.

I'll delete it

mexicoruss said:

just sharing the local sentiment not my post just a share but hey at least you got to call me out on it.

"Not my post, just a share" That's stellar.

mexicoruss said:

I'll delete it

I saw the ugly rant you had a few weeks ago that you deleted also, so what's up?

audsley said:

Instead the bad guys remain out there running around free and the poison just spreads.

Meanwhile, in this country a criminal justice "reform" movement is trying to convince us we have too many people locked up and that's unfair, inhumane and expensive. Bleeding heart Democrats are pushing it and tightwad Republicans who never saw a public expenditure they wouldn't like to cut are getting on board. Pretty soon we'll have more sh*tbirds on our streets too.

So true. I has already spread to the highest office in the land when you have a sh*t bird in the Whitehouse modeling and defending being immoral and a crook.
It's not just that locking up too many people is unfair, it's stupid. The US needs to spend less energy on punitive measures of all kinds and start realistic preventative measures.

Kenny said:

I saw the ugly rant you had a few weeks ago that you deleted also, so what's up?

I don't post ugly must have been someone else

mexicoruss said:

I don't post ugly must have been someone else

Some drunk must have hacked and impersonated you.

Kenny said:

Some drunk must have hacked and impersonated you.

wow just wow! talk about an ugly post...When have I attacked you?

mexicoruss said:

wow just wow! talk about an ugly post...When have I attacked you?

What? You say you have no recollection of that rant post with your name on it that was deleted, so it must have been someone else. Or do you remember it now? Can't have it both ways you know.

Boys, boys....stop it!

Roberto said:

So true. I has already spread to the highest office in the land when you have a sh*t bird in the Whitehouse modeling and defending being immoral and a crook.
It's not just that locking up too many people is unfair, it's stupid. The US needs to spend less energy on punitive measures of all kinds and start realistic preventative measures.

Except for violent crime. Violent criminals need to be removed from society if not from life.

Roberto said:

So true. I has already spread to the highest office in the land when you have a sh*t bird in the Whitehouse modeling and defending being immoral and a crook.
It's not just that locking up too many people is unfair, it's stupid. The US needs to spend less energy on punitive measures of all kinds and start realistic preventative measures.

Yeah right....the house dems can't even agree on what bathroom to use. Realistic preventative measures seems like a bit of a stretch.

Kenny said:

The reds don't even try to find a bathroom, they just defecate in each others mouths.

Full blown TDS....."Don't believe it, Good for you!".......LOL

Hey Kenny , have you been to San Francisco lately and Chicago both run by your lib friends ?? . The body count of the homeless in l. A. is piling up also lib run , I could go on and on but I think you get the point .

What happened to no political views.

Oops !!

Hobie Vern said:

What happened to no political views.

Maduro here just parrot's what to him are feel-good talking points that he's memorized watching fox. So he's safe here, free pass.

And the truth speaks for itself .

California has had a program to reduce their prison population by using early release of prisoners. They try to release non-violent offenders but many convictions are plead down from very violent crimes that were committed.
To be honest, the extreme partisanship being expressed above is exactly the problem in our government and both sides are not without guilt. Just expressing ridiculous rhetoric similar to what is written above fans the flames, creates polarization and exhibits sophomoric thought and behavior.

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Roberto said:

OK lets kill them all off . You decide who..

I would flip this on you and ask that you decide what violent offenders are let loose in your neighborhood. Nationally, in America, violent crime has been on a downward trend so something about the system must be working correctly. If you look at each individual law, the crime for breaking it and the punishment meeted out you would be hard pressed to argue against the sentence , especially with the victims in the same room as you. The system, except in the case of maybe non-violent drug offenders or victimless crimes Seems to be working. I was just making a flippant remark about hardened criminals who are repeat offenders of violent criminal acts. These types I could easily put down or put away for life.

Roberto said:

The government reflects the attitude of the people, the voters. so take responsibility don't blame "the Government:" whoever they are. You are the government, it is YOUR responsibility. Bitch all you want. But don't get involved in changing things.

And you re 100% wrong in that the government reflects the attitude of the voters. In a divided country like the U.S. the government reflects the attitude of half of the voters.

Let me decide who to kill.... Let me decide.

I'm about to kill this whole thread.

dele ted

Stuart said:

I'm about to kill this whole thread.

Excellent idea. Thank you Stu!! BUT wait, wait, that means YOU get to decide who to kill !!! Ja ja ja ja

November 2020 we will know what the people want !!

So I guess it's OK like I mentioned for the right-wingers to pop up at any time with their BS. So, here's my shortlist.

“An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"

The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant, and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought, "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, about how he turned his back, and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"

That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters, and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating, and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water, and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand, while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals,” - and you say, “well, ok then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.

What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2018, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

Let's see if I, a progressive, gets the same consideration.

Kenny, just say’n (lovingly, mind you!) -- you’re kinda looking like a beached fish flopp'n around. If this were a forum for political discourse, some might amuse themselves by jumping in to challenge you. But it is a forum for a Penasco community who has no interest nor authorization to discuss politics.

Southbeacher said:

Kenny, just say’n (lovingly, mind you!) -- you’re kinda looking like a beached fish flopp'n around. If this were a forum for political discourse, some might amuse themselves by jumping in to challenge you. But it is a forum for a Penasco community who has no interest nor authorization to discuss politics.

Look above and at the other past posts that have thrown politics onto a thread without an excuse or prompting, then get back to me. Better yet, amuse yourself with them, after all they're your team. I suggest you start with the ones who say they want to be an executioner. They are sure to be a fun group.

Kenny, have you noticed at this hour, the sun as it plays upon the water? It looks somewhat like sequins. And at sunset -- wow! The colors are amazing. Earlier this week, I helped a stranded Mexicano who took a wrong turn and high-ended himself on the sand en route to Mayan with a delivery of produce. Was awarded a fresh watermelon. So delicious!

Southbeacher said:

Kenny, have you noticed at this hour, the sun as it plays upon the water? It looks somewhat like sequins. And at sunset -- wow! The colors are amazing. Earlier this week, I helped a stranded Mexicano who took a wrong turn and high-ended himself on the sand en route to Mayan with a delivery of produce. Was awarded a fresh watermelon. So delicious!

Excellent! And to think, you have chosen to interact with me about it all.

Time after time on here I read threads where politics are mentioned, and it's often "those democrats" did this or that, but that doesn't count with you. Why not?

Why, it doesn't count with me because I signed up for a forum that forbids political discussion, and then I abide by my commitment.

Did anybody catch the score of the Bears game ?

Southbeacher said:

Why, it doesn't count with me because I signed up for a forum that forbids political discussion, and then I abide by my commitment.

Specific. I watched the Democrats getting slammed on here for no other purpose but politics, and almost always without a response of any kind except from a liked-minded member. That was OK with you. Why?

The “slamming” has – for years – come from both sides. And yes – the lack of response is okay with me because to respond to partisan comments on this venue is to take the bait.

Look, there's more than a few on here who consistently, and whenever the whim strikes them to lash out at Democrats with impunity, certainly not a peep from you; but you sought me out like a heat-seeking missile today. Bipartisan is ya now?

Soooo! Does anyone have any info on what this thread is about? Probably not! Kill it, Stuart.

Kenny said:

Look, there's more than a few on here who consistently, and whenever the whim strikes them to lash out at Democrats with impunity, certainly not a peep from you; but you sought me out like a heat-seeking missile today. Bipartisan is ya now?

No, Kenny. I'm quite partisan. But I just don't share it here. And I didn't seek you out. I merely locked onto the one who made the first predatory comment on this thread, and called it out.

Southbeacher said:

No, Kenny. I'm quite partisan. But I just don't share it here. And I didn't seek you out. I merely locked onto the one who made the first predatory comment on this thread, and called it out.

Oooooooo "predatory". And this is what then, looking for love in all the wrong places or what? "Hey Kenny , have you been to San Francisco lately and Chicago both run by your lib friends ?? . The body count of the homeless in l. A. is piling up also lib run , I could go on and on but I think you get the point. " THAT WAS BEFORE MY POST and that crap goes unnoticed by you, but you found yourself on the list and it bothered you. It should.

Hey guys, the newby here wonders if the thread may disapear. It might be for the best. In truth, I am very interested in the subject of the thread such as the actual location since the reference point did not provide enough clarity. I have been visiting RP more often and may be interested in a condo purchase. This subject of bodies has caught my attention but not the politics....

Idyllwild said:

42+ is a lot of missing people. I’ve never heard of any missing gringos. Maybe some could be migrants, but even 3 or 4 missing locals should have made the news. Obviously this group was out looking for missing family members, so they knew something I didn’t.

Wake up Puerto Penasco! You wonderful community is being taken over!

Kenny said:

Oooooooo "predatory". And this is what then, looking for love in all the wrong places or what? "Hey Kenny , have you been to San Francisco lately and Chicago both run by your lib friends ?? . The body count of the homeless in l. A. is piling up also lib run , I could go on and on but I think you get the point. " That crap goes unnoticed by you, but you found yourself on the list and it bothered you. It should.

Kenny, did you get a score yet on the Bears game ?

LAS CONCHAS UNDERGROUND said:

Wake up Puerto Penasco! You wonderful community is being taken over!

Arm yourselves and don't let this happen! Oh wait, this is Mexico. Only the criminals are allowed to possess guns....

rplarry said:

Did anybody catch the score of the Bears game ?

I heard they brought in George Blanda at the half but still lost.

Stuart, Please kill this thread so that we can get rid of this political garbage.

ron said:

Stuart, Please kill this thread so that we can get rid of this political garbage.

You encourage it with your likes and crap like below. Phony
@ron
Well Known Member
Yesterday at 6:43 AM
#50
Let me decide who to kill.... Let me decide.

Kenny said:

You encourage it with your likes and crap like below. Phony
@ron
Well Known Member
Yesterday at 6:43 AM
#50
Let me decide who to kill.... Let me decide.

We are so fortunate to have Kenny replace Jerry as the forum dork, I mean police.

Petrose said:

We are so fortunate to have Kenny replace Jerry as the forum dork, I mean police.

Jerks that used to be in the basement and others post derogatory political stuff about Dems all the time, but you have a problem when I get fed up and fire back? What, did you see yourself on the list too?

Dang, see things haven't eased up much since Friday, including what appears to be some kind manifesto. Kenny, I can't for the life of me figure out the reason for your relentless anger. Also find it hard to believe a few political barbs tossed about has you straight off the rails. And what's worse is you believe they're directed specifically at you. You're living too much a good life to let this stuff eat at you like it does. All it does is makes you easy pickens' for people that like to push your buttons, so much so that if your were Chinese, they probably call you Lo Hung Fruit. So, I apologize to you for anything I've said that may have started any of this, and try to be more respectful in the future.

Bob Oso said:

Dang, see things haven't eased up much since Friday, including what appears to be some kind manifesto. Kenny, I can't for the life of me figure out the reason for your relentless anger. Also find it hard to believe a few political barbs tossed about has you straight off the rails. And what's worse is you believe they're directed specifically at you. You're living too much a good life to let this stuff eat at you like it does. All it does is makes you easy pickens' for people that like to push your buttons, so much so that if your were Chinese, they probably call you Lo Hung Fruit. So, I apologize to you for anything I've said that may have started any of this, and try to be more respectful in the future.

The political stuff is not supposed to be directed at anyone, but it's always directed at progressives and Democrats in particular. So just be a good boy and stay away from the political stuff and badmouthing Democrats, and you'll be just fine.

Kenny said:

The political stuff is not supposed to be directed at anyone, but it's always directed at progressives and Democrats in particular. So just be a good boy and stay away from the political stuff and badmouthing Democrats, and you'll be just fine.

Kenny, quit playing your brothers keeper and you’l be fine. Now that Jerry is gone, you are being the keeper of an entire ideology of Dems, or libs, or progressives, or leftists.

that’s a lot of responsibility to worry about.

Take a chill pill and get back to the buried bodies, or fishing.

rplarry said:

Kenny, quit playing your brothers keeper and you’l be fine. Now that Jerry is gone, you are being the keeper of an entire ideology of Dems, or libs, or progressives, or leftists.

that’s a lot of responsibility to worry about.

Take a chill pill and get back to the buried bodies, or fishing.

Why don't you tell that to the ones who throw the crap out there too begin with, or complain when they do? Go ahead, call them out. No? Of course not, you like it their nonsense and I'm sure you found yourself on my shortlist too.

Sounds to me that a few ladies in here need to change their tampons.

Well, in non partisan morbid thought I wonder how the bodies made it to the pits? Were they shot on site or trucked? Who’s heavy equipment dug the pit, who was tipped off the to bodies whereabouts?

Southbeacher said:

Kenny, have you noticed at this hour, the sun as it plays upon the water? It looks somewhat like sequins. And at sunset -- wow! The colors are amazing. Earlier this week, I helped a stranded Mexicano who took a wrong turn and high-ended himself on the sand en route to Mayan with a delivery of produce. Was awarded a fresh watermelon. So delicious!

Absolutely wonderful!

Kenny, mi Amigo, you gota just accept the fact that your country has been taken over by a bunch of As# Ho%#s. You cannot do anything about it so do as I did, get out of the country. We have been amigos for many years. Let them stew in their own juices and come on down a fish !!

From aholes to drug cartels?

More bodies found
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2019/11/04/armed-men-scare-off-mothers-searching-bodies-near-rocky-point/4158550002/

hey Kenny -
are you coming down for Thanksgiving?

joester said:

hey Kenny -
are you coming down for Thanksgiving?

I haven't been down for Thanksgiving, I think since I shot these pictures and others. You two have a great time my friend.

Kenny,
That was 2008 I think. Good luck to you wherever you fish - tight lines and bloody decks!

dirtsurfer said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/at-least-21-killed-in-gun-battle-as-mexican-cartel-battles-security-forces-south-of-us-border/2019/12/01/722ae348-1450-11ea-80d6-d0ca7007273f_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2fWBMX8zvF0bXue5IAfv9ppQ-O9EPQ9ZwkstWhvpBW51t2nNb6rh0AbvA

Yep that has a lot to do with Rocky Point.

mexicoruss said:

Yep that has a lot to do with Rocky Point.

Meh. It's not right now, but point being it could be, and has come close a time or two.

Don't cheerlead, Russ.

It could all change tomorrow. Love you man, no homo.

mexicoruss said:

Yep that has a lot to do with Rocky Point.

It is an example of the Mexican government not being able to handle their problem, which was a part of the discussion.

Remember the shot out at the hotel on sandy beach awhile back. That was in RP. No one but the military knew it was going to go down.

Yep a week before X-mas 2013 at the Bella Serena Resort.
There were people driving the resort loop doing FB videos of the dead victims
that were left on the roadside for 5+ hours after it happened.
You don't see that in the USA. (either censorship or we're more civil here)?

brokenwave said:

Yep a week before X-mas 2013 at the Bella Serena Resort.
There were people driving the resort loop doing FB videos of the dead victims
that were left on the roadside for 5+ hours after it happened.
You don't see that in the USA. (either censorship or we're more civil here)?

Many here in the states can't even look at a whole-body frying Chicken, and more than a few would run out the room, not laugh if you walked it around holding it up by its legs. I remember, and not too long ago when a man was left in the middle of Ferguson street for 4 hours after he was shot right here in the states.

dirtsurfer said:

My niece is an ER doc in Chicago and although my death count comparison may be off the number of people shot but not killed in Chicago is a much higher number. I believe that on both sides of the border the death count would change along with the dynamic if all drugs were legalized.

Just like alcohol it would eliminate the need for the Capones.

brokenwave said:

Yep a week before X-mas 2013 at the Bella Serena Resort.
There were people driving the resort loop doing FB videos of the dead victims
that were left on the roadside for 5+ hours after it happened.
You don't see that in the USA. (either censorship or we're more civil here)?

Yes the states are much better in our response time when called out for the murdered. Maybe if our children see what can happen when you make bad choices they may may make good choices. jmo

Idyllwild said:

Here is just released homicide data on the 50 “most dangerous“ metropolitan areas in Mexico.

https://elcri.men/en/municipios-mas-violentos.html

Many of these are coastal tourist destinations.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coastal-tourist-destinations-among-most-violent-locations/

The mass grave may not help our next ranking, but we look pretty good compared to some of the alternatives like Rosarito.

I'm not afraid in Puerto Penasco. You have more chance of being shot and killed in the states. Up north where every idiot thinks they are John Wayne with their six shooters. Most are legally nuts (they get a check from the government that says so) and they're up here showing everyone that they ARE nuts. You can get shot in Phoenix just for pissing off another driver. People are just getting used to it. Till it happens to one of theirs