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Rancher killed near Douglas in Eastern Arizona

Started by jerry · Mar 28, 2010 · 46 replies
jerry
You have to live down here to realize what a big deal this is.This guy was a big rancher and really connected politically.This could bring the guard back to the border.it does make you think about shooting someone that comes up to your ranch in the middle of the night.
Cochise County Rancher Murdered Cochise County rancher Rob Krentz was shot and killed on his ranch some time Saturday, presumably by a drug smuggler. The death, which being investigated as a homicide, occurred in the San Bernardino Valley, part of the Malpais region. The event has rocked the towns of Douglas and Portal, and the ranches in between, both of which have been under siege by cross-border smugglers for years.
Kenny
Jerry right, so hang on to your hat, this could get rough.
Last edited: Mar 28, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Mentiras y Traición
Does Arizona have the "make my day" law? Some states have different names for it...basically if someone comes in your home or on your property and you think they intend to hurt you, you can shoot to kill them?
Kenny
Arizona Self Defense Laws


"I don't even call it violence when it's in self defense; I call it intelligence."
- Malcolm X

http://www.ehow.com/about_4683313_gun-self-defense-rights-arizona.html
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm

"Arizona has always cherished the right to bear and use arms as needed. An Arizona saying about gun use was "Don't kill no one that don't need killing." Men walked the streets with hogleg pistols visible on their hips and rifles under the wagon seat. Even saloon girls had a Derringer in their garter, just in case. Today, it is not unusual to see pistols, rifles and even semi-automatic weapons on dashboards or rifle racks of trucks passing you on the street."
Last edited: Mar 28, 2010 at 7:14 PM
waterkids
Our family friend is a large ranch owner down by Douglas who has dealt with illegals coming on his property for decades, cutting fences, killing cattle etc. Last year he had to defend himself on a 32
million dollar lawsuit. He was charged with assault and violating their civil rights. He held them until the border patrol could pick them up. They were trespassing and illegal. What civil rights?

He kicked one over with his foot and was charged with assault. I am sure you all have seen his story. I am glad he didn't get killed.

I own in RP and love it and feel okay going down. It is important to be aware of other areas and what is going on. It is not the same.
Last edited: Mar 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM
dmcauley
Maybe they should take some agents from non-violent areas, such as Lukeville, and concentrate them where they are needed.
Drug runners and undocumented are two different areas of concern but the ranchers can't tell the difference and they shouldn't have to worry about protecting their property. This is what we pay Border Patrol to do.
garyd
Arizona Castle Doctrine explained - In plain English


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May 14, 2008 - 3:13 PM

"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense."
- John Adams

From her beginning territorial days up until 1997, a person in Arizona was innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Then in 1997, through a quiet and political trick, prosecutors had the law changed in their favor so that people involved in self defense had to admit guilt before proving their own innocence by "justification," which resulted in a complex and extremely expensive legal process for the innocent.

It was a return to the Napoleonic Code, with a relatively small group of prosecutors sneaking this through our legislature without any form of public debate. It was a citizen's worst nightmare and a prosecutor's wet dream. Many of your fellow Arizonans suffered under this law, as it now made it extremely simple for prosecutors to reach a conviction.

The adaptation of the Arizona Castle Doctrine (Senate Bill 1145) reversed the laws back to be in favor of individual citizens, not prosecutors. The Castle Doctrine has 5 main points:

(1) Previously, "justification" defenses, including self-defense, were affirmative defenses. The defendant (or self-defender) had to prove them by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., proof of "more likely true than not). Under SB 1145, if the defense presents "evidence" (quantum undefined) of justification, the prosecution must disprove justification to a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. This change is not limited to defense of home or car, but applies anywhere.

(2) No duty to retreat before using force to prevent certain serious offenses, including aggravated assault. Again, this applies anywhere, any place a person has a legal right to be, in the language of the law.

(3) A person is presumed to be justified in using force or deadly force if he/she reasonably believes they or another person are in imminent peril and the attacker has entered or is trying to enter a residence or occupied auto. Once again, there is no duty to retreat.

(4) A person is generally presumed to be justified in use of force if the attacker has unlawfully forced his way into residence or car or is trying to do so (with certain exceptions, such as if the person forcing in had a legal right to be in there). This means that justification is automatically presumed when a person uses physical or deadly force against an intruder. It is now the prosecutor’s job to prove there was no justification, which once again falls within our legal system’s concept of innocent until proven guilty.

(5) If the aggressor is foolish enough to sue, and the defender wins, the defender recovers attorney fees and lost income (presumably, lost while at the courthouse). This not limited to the home invasion situation.

Why is the Castle Doctrine necessary?

The Castle Doctrine comes from the idea that "A man's home is his castle", as stated in English Common Law. It establishes that an individual has an undeniable right to use any type of physical force against an attacker or intruder.

The Castle Doctrine established redundancy is to further defend the corresponding law and its original intent. Most importantly, it stops self-important fools like the 9th Circuit Court and biased judges from trying to legislate from the bench.
InkaRoads
in other words, someone breaks in your home or car you can shoot to kill!! I love this country!!
garyd
Or "is trying to enter...."
garyd
I LIKE THIS PART THE MOST Most importantly, it stops self-important fools like the 9th Circuit Court and biased judges from trying to legislate from the bench.
Mentiras y Traición
It's better than having to try to determine if they "mean" to hurt you. Can you imagine if they had to wait til the knife was halfway in, or there was "proof" the trigger was pulled...
jerry
I've gone down to my barn in the middle of the night and found people getting out of the cold and rain.I've helped people with sprained ankles get down from the mountains behind the house and I've given food to guys waiting to be picked up but lately there has been a new more hard edged type around.My guess is if you lose a load you die. Wait time for law enforcement is up to 2 hours and they are pretty worthless when they do show up. I think legalizing dope and building Mexico's economy are the only long term answers.In the meantime we are in a bit of a pinch unless Gov. Brewer sends in the guard.
InkaRoads
I agree with deadly force used when needed, I did everything by the law to become a naturalized citizen of this country and I am proud of it as well as proud of the country that gave me birth, one can never forget the grounds one has grown no matter what!!
I also agree that undocumented or illegals do take advantage of the system and it cost me as well as you money that we work hard for, but at the same time I do realized that many of them just want a better life and are good people, those are the ones that deserve to be given a second chance, unfortunately many of them do use the wrong way to arrive here and it makes them be part of the problem!!
I feel sorry for the ranchers along the border because thay fight with it all day long.
playaperro
Posted by Sonoran Alliance under Border , Crime and Punishment , Illegal Aliens , Illegal Immigration
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This is a reprint from the DiggersRealm.com.
Our prayers and thoughts go out to Bob’s family.
<IMG style="BORDER-BOTTOM: black 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: black 1px solid; MARGIN: 7px; BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: black 1px solid" title="Bob Krentz" alt="Bob Krentz" align=left width=300 height=200>The body of Rancher Rob Krentz and his dog were found shot to death on his ranch. Krentz, who always was good-natured and willing to help people, had called in that he had found an illegal alien at one of his watering holes and was assisting him. That was the last that was heard from him before his body was discovered.
Rob Krentz was a lifelong rancher in Southeastern Arizona, 12 miles north of the U.S./Mexico border and 25 miles northeast of the city of Douglas. He was the father of three children. The ranch has been in his family for three generations, more than 100 years – since 1907, and sits on about 35,000 acres with 1,000 head of cattle. Running a ranch is hard work and with the influx of illegal aliens increasing, Rob was at ground zero of the stampede that is destroying the fragile desert landscape.
The Krentz family has received numerous threats in the past by illegal aliens trespassing on their property. In 2002, the family was physically threatened when one of them stumbled upon a group of 39 illegal aliens. They were told to get off the land and they made threats. The Border Patrol did catch the illegal aliens after they were called, but we all know that illegal aliens, if deported, come right back across.
In 1999, Krentz and his wife Susan did an interview with PBS when they came around asking about the issue of illegal immigration and its impacts on the local ranchers.
“We’ve been broken into,” Susan Krentz told PBS.
Rob and Susan Krentz
“One time,” Rob said “You know, we’ve personally been broke in once. And they took about $700 worth of stuff. And you know, if they come in and ask for water, I’ll still give them water. I – you know, that’s just my nature.”
In 2003, Congressman Tom Tancredo mentioned the challenges of the border ranchers, and in particular highlighted the the Krentz family’s plight.
“In the month of November, 2002, in the Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol … where the Krentz ranch is located, the Border Patrol apprehended 23,000 border crossers,” Tancredo wrote. “many people would suggest that the [apprehension] ratio is just about maybe one in five, and that is a very conservative estimate. … I think it is closer to one in ten”.
That means in that sector alone for one month, 8 years ago, the most conservative estimate is that 115,000 illegal aliens crossed the border in that one chunk of land in the Tucson sector. All of the illegals are unknown.
Tancredo notes that the Krentz’s did mention to him that they called the Border Patrol. In one instance illegal aliens had butchered one of his calves.
In February [2002] … a calf was butchered by illegal alien trespassers. Two men responsible were caught. They were tried. They were found guilty. They served a total of 51 days in jail. They were also ordered to pay $200 in restitution to the Krentz ranch. The Krentz ranch has not seen a cent of that money; and, of course, our best guess is they will not because these people have been released. They either came back into the population up here in the U.S.A. or returned to Mexico.
Tancredo goes into the cases of deliberate sabotage of the Krentz ranch’s water supply and the other impacts on the Krentz’s by illegal aliens. You can read more, where Tancredo dubs the Krentzs American Homeland Heroes
6 years after the PBS interview, in 2005, Krentz did an interview with KOLD as the number of illegal aliens exploded.
“We’re being over-run, and it’s costing us lots and lots of money,” Krentz said.
“We figured it up over the last five years and it’s cost us over $8 million,” Krentz said. “Cattle don’t like people walking through, so they move. So, cattle weight loss, destruction of fences, breaking our pipelines, they break them in two and (the pipes) run for two or three days before we find it.”
Krentz went on to say that when he was a boy he actually knew the few illegal aliens that came through looking for work, he said it’s nothing like that now as hundreds of unknown illegals stream across his land.
Rob Krentz is just one of the many people who live and work along our southern border. A tough, hard working man who was trying to make a living and doing what he loved. Those who support illegal aliens will talk about “human rights”, but where were the “human rights” when it came to Rob Krentz? Where was the government to protect our border and prevent this from happening, though they’ve been told time and time again? They didn’t protect his property rights, nor his civil rights.
This country failed Robert Krentz, his family and all who work for him. As they have failed countless families all across this country. The number of deaths is estimated to be from 15-25 deaths caused by illegal aliens each day in this country.
It is not known yet whether Krentz was specifically targeted or whether it was just one of the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who come across our border every year who have actual criminal records, but in the end does it matter? A hard working man was killed on his own land. And all for just trying to help out someone in need.
And that is simply outrageous.
Rest in peace Robert Krentz, the country will surely miss a great and kind man like you.
Stuart
It's a shame that a man who strongly believed in helping others had his life taken. While I agree everyone has the right to defend themselves, their family, their homes and property by deadly force if necessary, my biggest fear is that this incident will cause an "open season" on illegal immigrants all along the Arizona border. People will now be more inclined to shoot first and ask questions later. There will be more bloodshed.
joester
our condolences to Rob Krentz's family and friends - this is not how it should end for any of us.
By all accounts, this man had spent his life taking care of his family and being a good steward of his ranch.
this just plain sucks - it needs to stop.
RIP Rob Krentz.
garyd
I agree this sucks. Sorry to say this Stuart but if had shot first he may still be here to ask questions. Hidsight is always 20/20. Maybe asking questions later is what is called for in these times
garyd
Maybe his family shoud request state or federal military assistance to protect his home from invaders
Submarine
jerry said:
I've gone down to my barn in the middle of the night and found people getting out of the cold and rain.I've helped people with sprained ankles get down from the mountains behind the house and I've given food to guys waiting to be picked up but lately there has been a new more hard edged type around.My guess is if you lose a load you die. Wait time for law enforcement is up to 2 hours and they are pretty worthless when they do show up. I think legalizing dope and building Mexico's economy are the only long term answers.In the meantime we are in a bit of a pinch unless Gov. Brewer sends in the guard.


Too late Jerry, they sent the AZNG to Afghanistan today.

Look at the bright side, if the ranchers declare open season maybe the illegals will try the Lukeville route. On the east side of 85 you've got deadly terrain and no water. On the west side is a free-fire zone for the military. Hmmm. Well I guess there isn't a bright side.
jerry
Meanwhile in safe Tucson:
Two people were killed and a 3-year-old child suffered life-threatening injuries following a home invasion on the southwest side Monday night.
The Pima County Sheriff's Department was called to the 7800 block of West Spiney Lizard Lane, near South San Joaquin Road and West Bopp Road, just after 11:30 p.m. Monday after getting calls of a shooting, department spokesman Jason Ogan said.
Deputies found a home that had signs of forced entry, and inside they found a man and a woman dead, Ogan said.
A 3-year-old child was found critically injured and was transported to a local hospital, while a 10-year-old child was found unharmed, he said.
Investigators were expected to be working the scene overnight to determine what happened.
cheatka
Its a very sad situation down there

and there's no end in sight. I heard these people are streaming over here in the thousands just because they may get amnesty if they're already here and the gov passes it. Add that to the fact that the drug runners are getting bolder and meaner and we've got a mess on our hands. I certainly wouldn't want to be living anywhere near that border, no one is safe. Its really unfortunate that Bob didn't get a chance to shoot the person but then on the downside, the way the laws are he probably would have been proscecuted for it if he had. Things need to change somehow, someway.
doeadeer
waterkids said:
Our family friend is a large ranch owner down by Douglas who has dealt with illegals coming on his property for decades, cutting fences, killing cattle etc. Last year he had to defend himself on a 32
million dollar lawsuit. He was charged with assault and violating their civil rights. He held them until the border patrol could pick them up. They were trespassing and illegal. What civil rights?

He kicked one over with his foot and was charged with assault. I am sure you all have seen his story. I am glad he didn't get killed.

I own in RP and love it and feel okay going down. It is important to be aware of other areas and what is going on. It is not the same.




I do remember this story and it made me sick that he had to go through so much crap because of it! In fact, when I heard about this rancher's murder....I wondered if it was this guy (your relative).
playaperro
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/09/16-illegals-sue-arizona-rancher/

Here's the link for Roger...
maricopaTitan
bring our guys back from Iraq, and post them 100 yards into USA territory, and 150 yards apart along the border, 4 hour shifts, with orders to shoot to kill any one that comes into the USofA. Problem solved
Norcal Guy
I don't think I would leave the States if we could take a vacation along the border and start plinkin off border jumpers like I do ground squirrels in Oregon. Your right.. that would solve the problem right there. Heck that would even increase tourism in AZ and bordering states.
Kenny
will know you when they see ya.

Welcome to the forum, and how lucky that you two have found each other in such a short period of time. Seems to me that both of you could be "natural born killers". How exciting is that! Tell me, you don't actually plan on going into Mexico do you? You do! How about a picture then, so your new friends will know you when they see ya.

Kenny
Last edited: Apr 14, 2010 at 3:19 PM
PitiquitoRosy
Kenny said:
Welcome to the forum, and how lucky that you two have found each other in such a short period of time. Seems to me that both of you could be "natural born killers". How exciting is that! Tell me, you don't actually plan on going into Mexico do you? You do! How about a picture then, so your new friends will know you when they see ya.

Kenny


Trust me Kenny, no one needs a picture of this fool. We'll know him by the way his beady little eyes dart around in the fear that immigrants might be darting out at him from every corner trying to take what measly little he has amassed. Or possibly by the swagger meant to convince people that he isn't just another loser needing to blame those less fortunate than himself for his own inadequacies. And if those don't work, we'll smell the stench of hatred and violence. This type does all but carry a neon sign around announcing his need to be made miserable.

It's enough to make even me believe in target practice after all...
Ladyjeeper
The stench of hatred........Well said Rosy! Where's the humanity? I keep asking these people where it says in the Bible that charity depends on where you were born but I just keep getting yelled at and called nasty names. Now that's Christian behavior for you! :confused::sad::eek3::fail:

I've got my flame suit on..........
PitiquitoRosy
Ladyjeeper said:
The stench of hatred........Well said Rosy! Where's the humanity? I keep asking these people where it says in the Bible that charity depends on where you were born but I just keep getting yelled at and called nasty names. Now that's Christian behavior for you! :confused::sad::eek3::fail:

I've got my flame suit on..........


Chari, humanity, charity, respect and kindness all existed prior to current fences, borders and law enforcement agencies. And as we all know, even family ties and history bind the Mexican Northwest with the Southwestern U.S. No border fence, walls or patrols can sever those ties.

If you look at the history of the world and its greatest cultures and governments, it becomes obvious (at least to me) that the biggest threat to so-called American supremacy comes from the those very people who consider themselves and their culture (in the loosest sense of this word) superior to cultures that have existed and survived for centuries.

While they protect themselves from "outsiders", they themselves are eroding their society...not to mention their gene pool.

They blame external forces for eroding what they think they have while ignoring that it is their own "dumbing down" effect that is the biggest threat. Case in point: the idiot who has already told us that in Oregon his pastime is picking off squirrels as if they were immigrants. Perhaps he would stand a better chance of advancing his society or of making a contribution to his community if he spent that time reading a book or tutoring a child in something other than how to hate.

Any woman who has ever been in an abusive relationship (or for that matter, any man who has seen a short guy drunk in a bar and looking for someone to pick on) can tell you that those blowhards who put others down to make themselves feel superior...are their own worst enemy.

P.S. Forget the flame suit...I've just diverted the line of fire.
La Huerita
Norcal Guy said:
I don't think I would leave the States if we could take a vacation along the border and start plinkin off border jumpers like I do ground squirrels in Oregon. Your right.. that would solve the problem right there. Heck that would even increase tourism in AZ and bordering states.


I wonder if you even understand that you're oh so blithely talking about committing murder? Multiple murders. But then, maybe that's always been a dream of yours, unfulfilled due to the fear of getting caught and prosecuted? Happy you if such murder were legalized so you could plink away without fear of consequences...
InkaRoads
Ladies, ladies!!!, do not waste your breath trying to convince a squirrel!!! :eek3:
jerry
InkaRoads said:
Ladies, ladies!!!, do not waste your breath trying to convince a squirrel!!! :eek3:


Hey I didn't know they had squirrels in Peru.
The lack of border patrol out by me (South of Bowie) to the New Mexico line is really surprising.I don't even call them because response is so slow.Guys on the ridge line past my property line are on there own..water.a little food now and then maybe but after this shooting I am a little hesitant to help out too much.Last night during Letterman the dogs went crazy.I put the night vision on a hill behind our place and saw a group moving down the draw...I returned to my TV show...might get a bigger meaner dog too
InkaRoads
Jerry, we do not have squirrels in Peru, we have ardillas ja, ja, ja
I had my fill with illegal crossers when my wife and I were managing a guest ranch in Tubac (Rex Ranch, now it is a spa) every day and night too, I gave lots of food and water away, even to 3 year old kids with thier parents many times, a few times I was affraid for our good being just by looking at the people in front of me, but I said before, not all that come are bad people!! I probably could say that speaking spanish was very usefull during those days and always I told Alicia to hide just in case, also help that the owner of the ranch, at the time, had 2 illegals working for him and that also help with the passer by, I always helped them 'cause to me they were humans not animals and I know it was risky some times!! specially when the coyotes were present.
jerry
Man you have lived a full life and deserve some beach time! I agree on the coyotes.I'm sure the guy who killed the rancher was a local from the other side.High on dope,knows the area waiting and watching.Last month i came upon one while rock hounding that worried me enough to call the law...he looked like a pirate one eye,scarred..jesus he was right out of Treasure of Sierra Madre....2 hours later a fatter older version of me showed up in the Cochise County Sheriff costume ...worthless
InkaRoads
Like I tell my wify, its all in a days life!! might not be the brightest star out but live life to the fullest!! with tecate and corralejo!!
Mentiras y Traición
Shades of Physco! I'm deep in to reading Jerry's post about people creeping past his house in the dark and BOOM - my power goes off - popping loudly and scares the you-know-what out of me! Just like the shower scene! I'm definitely awake now!
playaperro
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_35ef6e3a-5632-5e58-abe7-e7697ee2f0d5.html

Update on this story...must read....
happygirl
Interesting comments/story from Border report

THE BORDER REPORT

Did the Republican governor of Arizona knowingly use a murder that had nothing to do with Mexico at all to propagate the passage of a state law criminalizing illegal immigration? Perhaps.
The Arizona Daily Star in Tucson smoked a great story this morning; saying the killing of a Southern Arizona rancher was not random and that Cochise County Sheriff’s deputies are looking for an individual in the U.S., not in Mexico.
Robert Krentz was murdered March 27, on his ranch in southeastern Arizona. His death prompted much of the latest rancor surrounding the issue of how to control the Arizona border. Gov. Jan Brewer used the murder as the sounding board to call for an increase of federal border security. Though she never tied Krentz’s murder to Arizona’s new law criminalizing illegal immigration, her signing the bill came weeks after the murder. Last month, she approved the spending of $10 million in discretionary stimulus funding to border area law enforcement agencies and called for National Guard training missions on the border. Before Krentz’s killing, Brewer’s administration paid little to no public attention to the border.
The question now becomes whether Arizona state officials knew the sheriff’s deputies were looking for someone in the U.S., someone who plotted to kill Krentz. The Star’s source is identified only as “high level government officials,” it doesn’t specify whether the sources were at the federal, state or county level. But if these government officials knew and presented enough evidence to convince the newspaper that it was true, then I think it’s safe to assume state officials also knew. And if state officials knew Krentz’s murder had nothing to do with the U.S.-Mexico border, then Brewer also had to have known.
Which is interesting. I hope this story gathers some serious legs.
playaperro
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/the-krentz-bonfire/Content?oid=1945848

Tucson Weekly This is Last week edition......
audsley
Happygirl,

Channel 11 News explained tonight that the Az Daily Star made an error in reporting what govt officials were saying. The Star's original story stated that the person being sought is a U.S. citizen. The Star later acknowledged that this is an error and that what govt officials had told them was that the person is believed to be in the U.S. The govt officials have said nothing about the nationality of the suspect. The Star blamed the error on an editing mistake, not the reporter.

I've seen nothing to indicate law enforcement believes the Krentz murder was unrelated to border issues. Let's remember that many people living in the U.S. are also involved in smuggling drugs and humans. Smuggling operations utilize U.S. citizens as spotters, drivers and in other roles. Even if it turns out the shooter is someone born and raised in Douglas or Bisbee, that wouldn't mean the killing was unrelated to border smuggling.

Read the Tucson Weekly article posted by Playaperro and decide whether govt officials are just blowing smoke for political reasons or if perhaps our government is failing to protect its citizens.
jerry
There is a lot about this story that is fishy.....Audsley you just keep on wishing it was one of them damn mexicans
and be sad if it wasn't a mexican national

audsley said:
Happygirl,

Channel 11 News explained tonight that the Az Daily Star made an error in reporting what govt officials were saying. The Star's original story stated that the person being sought is a U.S. citizen. The Star later acknowledged that this is an error and that what govt officials had told them was that the person is believed to be in the U.S. The govt officials have said nothing about the nationality of the suspect. The Star blamed the error on an editing mistake, not the reporter.

I've seen nothing to indicate law enforcement believes the Krentz murder was unrelated to border issues. Let's remember that many people living in the U.S. are also involved in smuggling drugs and humans. Smuggling operations utilize U.S. citizens as spotters, drivers and in other roles. Even if it turns out the shooter is someone born and raised in Douglas or Bisbee, that wouldn't mean the killing was unrelated to border smuggling.

Read the Tucson Weekly article posted by Playaperro and decide whether govt officials are just blowing smoke for political reasons or if perhaps our government is failing to protect its citizens.
cheatka
here's a little more insight into life in southern az--check out the bit about one of

the people helping the drug runners. I hope they fry her

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/report_from_cochise_county_ari.html
jerry
She might have gotten an offer she couldn't refuse...In Bowie where I've been for 9 years on and off I know a store owner,a tow truck driver,a phone company installer,a rancher,a fire department acting chief that all are either involved in drugs and illegal smuggling or look the other way(my MO)
What do we all have in common? we are all white !
cheatka said:
the people helping the drug runners. I hope they fry her

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/report_from_cochise_county_ari.html
Kenny
jerry said:
She might have gotten an offer she couldn't refuse...In Bowie where I've been for 9 years on and off I know a store owner,a tow truck driver,a phone company installer,a rancher,a fire department acting chief that all are either involved in drugs and illegal smuggling or look the other way(my MO)
What do we all have in common? we are all white !

One big difference there Jerry, she wasn't "the secretary for the Drug Enforcement Division of the Cochise County Attorney office", who well may have taken a oath of to uphold the laws of AZ. At the very least, she was stabing her co-workers in the back!
JimMcG
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/271473 Add her to the list.
jerry
Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:18 pm
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Legalize all drugs.......
A Santa Cruz County sheriff’s deputy is facing drug trafficking and weapons charges after he was accused of smuggling cocaine through a U.S. Border Patrol checkpoint.
Deputy Jesus R. Contreras, 29, and another man, Ernesto Castro, 38, were indicted on the charges after authorities determined the men conspired to transport five kilograms of cocaine beginning at a time unknown and March 2, according to a U.S. Attorney’s Office press release.
Contreras is accused of transporting the cocaine through an Interstate 19 checkpoint in his marked patrol vehicle while in uniform.
He was fired from the sheriff’s department and taken into custody by FBI agents Tuesday, authorities said
bahiatrader
A lot of smuggling operations have family on both sides of ther border. Some are even involved in law enforcement. It's pretty hard to cope with operations like that.