Kelsey I think it is...many times cults make use of failed cults compounds.This group gives finders fees to recruiters equaling the first month of room and board.The guy in the photo may be running the deal...Mormon that drinks and does not practice what he preaches.Trying to find out a few things. I need help answering several questions:
Who is the director of these programs?
About many kids are currently in them?
About how many employees do they have?
What is the ratio of Mexican to American staff?
How much are Mexican staff paid?
What is the level of local awareness that this exists? Are they hiring?
Here's what I know:
The director will be a devout Mormon man and drawn from a very small pool of people with familial or business ties to Robert Lichfield. He will go to every LDS function in town with his family. I will recognize his name.
It has been open since some time in 2014. Children are being transported from another WWASP program in Louisiana to seed this one with the necessary "culture" of peer confrontation and abuse to carry out this scam.
Robert Lichfield's son, Robbie/Rob Lichfield was involved in the setup of this school in late 2013. I do not know how involved he is aside from that - but it's more than enough for me (I have other evidence) to satisfy the connection to WWASP.
"Tuition" is $2000/month + various fees they tack on. The first month's tuition goes to the 'educational consultant' who gives the parent the hard sell. The former Midwest Academy employee who accepted the position at this school is bragging to friends and family that he will make $125,000 and drive a company car. In the past it has been alleged that around half of this 'tuition' money finds its way back to WWASP/Lichfield as profit (where it must be further divided as protection). What this means is that they are planning for this to be quite large.
All WWASP programs exist at the permission or invitation of local authorities, who will be expected to return escapees to the program if the other kids aren't able to catch them.
Roberto describes the prison camps location "
The entrance to Playa San Jorge is a bit further past the entrance to Estero La Pinta. In fact if you drive down the beach at Estero La Pinta it's an easy 4 wheel drive to playa San Jorge. Have not been by there in awhile but there was a gate and a home at the gate on the Caborca highway. A family was living in there and would come out to open the gate. The road was OK all the way to the sea. You will pass a very large group of buildings on the right. That used to house the family that operated a boat tour business. Others can contribute to the stories about them but they all had a particular tatoo in a particular place and all the women were belly dancers !! They left town unders murky circumstances and are rumored to be living in Hawaii !!
The beach is rather flat there and connects to La Pinta to the north and the big clam flats at Almejas to the south. South is a lot of estuary country. Along the sea there are homes on the beach and back. This area was and maybe still is an Ejido. Rumor has it that the homes were all built on land acquired via illegal 'green lesases'. If that is true, they cannot be sold. I spoke with a gent a few years back who said he had a 5 bedroom beachfront he wanted to sell in San Jorge. To prove he owned it he said "I have a piece of paper somewhere" and that's a quote !! Was a rumor not too long ago about conflict between the Ejidio people and the 'owners' of those homes. Rumor was that the new generation of Ejido owners were taking the land back and there was a lot of vandalism. These are or were rumors so if someone can correct them, sign on!!
Other than the history of San Jorge, La Pinta has more to offer. Nicer beaches, easy access and lots of interesting history. Visit the site of Bernard Gillespie's gold stamping mill on the beach, drive the old narrow gauge railroad bed up into the sierras to visit the gold mine, stop at the site of Gillespies well and Orange orchard on the way, tour Gillespie's abandoned hacienda on the beach, fish, dig clams and walk the beach. Find the book "Gillespie's Gold" for the fabulous history of La Pinta. It's really a 'must read' book for those interested in this area.
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I know we are all pretty much focused on cheap shrimp,fishing our depleted sea and getting as drunk as possible but if anyone wants to go out there in April send me a message.....just heard another worrisome story.."if you try to escape they run you down and lock you in small rooms that you cannot even lay down in" .....but hey the fucking parents get a free stay at a near by Pigeon Coop so I guess it works out....
Lee County officials now say Iowa's Division of Criminal Investigation has recruited the FBI to work on the probe, and the state attorney general and the U.S. Attorney’s office have been consulted as the case progresses.
One of the five complaints alleging sex offenses was filed in January on behalf of a former student who said she was sexually assaulted by an 18-year-old in December. Another complaint was made last April. A student in May was accused of forcing another person to perform oral sex.
And Ben Trane, Midwest Academy's director, reported last year that a female teacher said she was sexually assaulted by a student, records show.
In his recorded Woodbury Reports interview, Trane said his academy still specializes in youth with emotional, behavior and drug and alcohol problems. But he said its programming differs from that used by the other facilities.
EDITORIALS:
Who is looking out for these kids?
Who is behind Midwest Academy?
The 2009 federal lawsuit was filed against World Wide, Midwest Academy and other defendants.
The former Midwest Academy students named as plaintiffs in the lawsuit alleged practices at the facility similar to those leveled at World Wide Association and other schools. They said they were strip- and cavity-searched in front of others; denied medicine, food, toilets and showers; forced to exercise until they vomited and passed out; denied medical care and sleep, and isolated from family.
I think about being thrown in "the box" in the dark at San Jorge and then think about what would crawl in there with you. Bart said the place was infested with scorpions and rattlesnakes. Said they were constantly killing snakes their dogs had cornered. Real scary stuff...a living nightmare.
I think about being thrown in "the box" in the dark at San Jorge and then think about what would crawl in there with you. Bart said the place was infested with scorpions and rattlesnakes. Said they were constantly killing snakes their dogs had cornered. Real scary stuff...a living nightmare.
Imagine running for it .....maybe stealing a kayak and head for miramar......A extort urged student from a sister school wants to know if there are Mexican staff and what training they have........
from the similar school in Iowa....
"Midwest Academy also is accused in the lawsuit of misleading parents about the widespread use of segregation “boxes;” false claims of being an accredited education program tied to the local high school; and billing for therapy and other treatments that were never provided.
In the lawsuit, students recount allegations of a rape in the shower, a female staff member having sex with a student, male students being sexually assaulted by other male students, and a staff member with a criminal record acting as a counselor without proper training. One of the plaintiffs said he lost 40 pounds because he was underfed. Others recounted being told to sit absolutely still for 19 hours a day in the out-of-school suspension, or isolation, rooms, until a mattress was provided at night.
The lawsuit also alleges Trane instructed female students in a "body image" class to enter a uniform room, undress in front of two mirrors and come out and describe to him their body type.
the "schools" have 29 male students at San Jorge and 9 girls at Luna Blanca or a house near . A new headmaster has come down from Iowa.A rightwing nut if there ever was one who has bragged to friends he is making 115k a year on this prison camp for uppity teens.
The girls program is a bargain at 2k a month! Bet el Top Ramin is on the menu . http://beachhouseprogram.com/
Rob Lichfield is the treasurer of Luna Blanca HOA and seems to be running things when not out in his boat
Update..Recieved "unlikely that the girl's program is in a separate facility. More likely, they punish boys and girls for looking at one another with the same severity as if they had sex for "breaking separation" - a fun mindgame played in every 'co-ed' WWASP program. In recent days more photos have been uploaded to the websites and Instagram accounts that make it looks though at least a dozen kids are currently at the facility."
Jerry, just curious... weren't your earlier rantings on this the reason you got paid a visit? (or maybe one of the reasons)
I don't think any of it is right, but just saying... it's Mexico. Money can make "problems" go away. You know that as much as I do.
Yes I think so but still worry about those kids.....my "visitors" did come from a ejido point leader ( a local defense force that subcontract to a cartel faction to watch for rivals.They also do their own thing as in this case) very close to there...he had an accident I heard
So I heard it has been forced to close.Lots of pressure from the capital after news reached them... and a near death experience in the middle of nowhere ...what a stupid idea...
Roberto describes the prison camps location "
The entrance to Playa San Jorge is a bit further past the entrance to Estero La Pinta. In fact if you drive down the beach at Estero La Pinta it's an easy 4 wheel drive to playa San Jorge. Have not been by there in awhile but there was a gate and a home at the gate on the Caborca highway. A family was living in there and would come out to open the gate. The road was OK all the way to the sea. You will pass a very large group of buildings on the right. That used to house the family that operated a boat tour business. Others can contribute to the stories about them but they all had a particular tatoo in a particular place and all the women were belly dancers !! They left town unders murky circumstances and are rumored to be living in Hawaii !!
The beach is rather flat there and connects to La Pinta to the north and the big clam flats at Almejas to the south. South is a lot of estuary country. Along the sea there are homes on the beach and back. This area was and maybe still is an Ejido. Rumor has it that the homes were all built on land acquired via illegal 'green lesases'. If that is true, they cannot be sold. I spoke with a gent a few years back who said he had a 5 bedroom beachfront he wanted to sell in San Jorge. To prove he owned it he said "I have a piece of paper somewhere" and that's a quote !! Was a rumor not too long ago about conflict between the Ejidio people and the 'owners' of those homes. Rumor was that the new generation of Ejido owners were taking the land back and there was a lot of vandalism. These are or were rumors so if someone can correct them, sign on!!
Other than the history of San Jorge, La Pinta has more to offer. Nicer beaches, easy access and lots of interesting history. Visit the site of Bernard Gillespie's gold stamping mill on the beach, drive the old narrow gauge railroad bed up into the sierras to visit the gold mine, stop at the site of Gillespies well and Orange orchard on the way, tour Gillespie's abandoned hacienda on the beach, fish, dig clams and walk the beach. Find the book "Gillespie's Gold" for the fabulous history of La Pinta. It's really a 'must read' book for those interested in this area.
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The family that ran the lobo Del mar. The belly dancers are now in Washington. Here is their website, I was interested in what happened to them
What a cool life they live. Basically they went full circle.
“Lobo Del Mar” is Spanish for “Sea Wolf”, and is the name of our family owned and operated activity & entertainment company. The “Sea Wolf” was one of our first live-aboard boats, taking us from the west coast of the United States up north to Alaska, where we lived and worked on the water. After many years of adventure in the last frontier, we left the boat behind - taking with us its’ name, and uncountable memories. Eventually, we made our way down to Old Mexico, and then on to the beautiful Big Island of Hawaii. Now we've pulled-up anchor once again and have relocated to to the beautiful Puget Sound area of Washington State where many of us lived years ago.
So Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeeeeey.......................................................................................
WTF does that link have to do with the Lobo Del Mar cult? Why do you despise them so much?? Didn't get into the belly dancing young blondies silky undies??? I came close a few times. Whew, thanks a los dios that didn't happen. I'd be a white haired dancing old fool in a kilt with my junk swinging between my naked thighs in the frigid Puget Sound breeze.
They sold their place to the current operation and left no one behind from the original extended family. There are "boot camp" operations like that everywhere since kids now days can't even cope with taking a leak due to questionable gender issues.
When a snowflake melts it becomes a first class undeniable DRIP.
jj...well nothing...the link is about the teen reform school....boys at San Jorge girls at a condo tower.....the staff came from Iowa where the sex with students trial is going on. I was contacted by a exstudent of these criminals.He described the weeks spent in shit filled cages,beatings,near suffucations.....strangley after Iposted this and reached out to some Mexicans that could look into it I recieved a visit....scary one...
A scary one... I always thought that was due to running yer yap about the Caborca boys.
well the guys were from Ultima area...was told it wasnt about our new management and instead a local real estate deal in San Jorge I blew up by talking shit...
This story and the slow but sure reaction after people figured out how f..ed up these places were ended with them first changing operations in San Jorge so the kids didn't die of exposure , then finally shut down….One victim from a school in the US and some mexican officals stepped up an deserve most of the credit……..but again the forum : helped people in bad shape ,stuck on a beach ,being ripped off,wondering where to buy shrimp,fishing tips,construction suggestions,where to stuff or this one ( trapped in a ttorture camp….this Forum helps people..
it seems the elder Robert is a bit more difficult to find than some of his friend. But, there were rumors that he may be living in out there.
I was in one of his WWASP abuse warehouses in upstate New York when I was 13. He owned the property, his brother, Narvin was a “silent partner” and his abusive brother in law, Jason Finlinson was the director. Before that, Jason ran a program called Casa by the Sea in Ensenada, there were rape and abuse allegations against him, so they decided to gift him with his very own program in NY. Makes sense right? Then after that program closes in 2009 due to educational fraud, Jason went to work for Sunset Bay in Rosarito.
is Richard in this thread? So, they were running a program from the hotel?
No but he is tied into Luna Blanca condo real estate and would know if he is still there. That the girls program was moved to after bad shit happened at San Jorge…..really bad….
it seems the elder Robert is a bit more difficult to find than some of his friend. But, there were rumors that he may be living in out there.
I was in one of his WWASP abuse warehouses in upstate New York when I was 13. He owned the property, his brother, Narvin was a “silent partner” and his abusive brother in law, Jason Finlinson was the director. Before that, Jason ran a program called Casa by the Sea in Ensenada, there were rape and abuse allegations against him, so they decided to gift him with his very own program in NY. Makes sense right? Then after that program closes in 2009 due to educational fraud, Jason went to work for Sunset Bay in Rosarito.
He always kept a arms length from the public abuse it seems. Sorry that happened to you.This setup was a Mormon based prison with a MLM angle added.You get more friends to commit their kids you get a discount….Who would believe that Paris Hilton would play such a big part in this industry getting smacked down.
He always kept a arms length from the public abuse it seems. Sorry that happened to you.This setup was a Mormon based prison with a MLM angle added.You get more friends to commit their kids you get a discount….Who would believe that Paris Hilton would play such a big part in this industry getting smacked down.
The one I was at, same setup plus ‘Human Potential’ cult mind control/attack therapy. They forced our parents to go these seminars that basically brainwashed them into believing we would die or be incarcerated if we didn’t complete “the program.” We did the same, slightly more intense seminars meant to break our will, strip us of our identity and force compliance. If you happen to know how to get into contact with Richard, I’d be interested. This the first I’ve heard of Luna Blanca.
Anyone with any additional info on this nightmare or another side to the story please post....
Have you looked into Casa by the Sea or High Impact by chance? Any idea if Lichfield still owns Luna Blanca or any programs in the area? I’m curious to know more about what happened here. I was at Academy at Ivy Ridge, a WWASP program in upstate NY for a year and a half.
Have you looked into Casa by the Sea or High Impact by chance? Any idea if Lichfield still owns Luna Blanca or any programs in the area? I’m curious to know more about what happened here. I was at Academy at Ivy Ridge, a WWASP program in upstate NY for a year and a half.
It is not Luna Blanca’s hoa best moment ( allowing this reform school on site) and I doubt if it will be easy to look into it. Lichfield flunkies got pretty mad when they were exposed….when the sale of San Jorge property started going south I was visited by local goons and told to butt out ( scary)….by that time they were told to get the F… out by Sonora authorities so things ended without the deaths that could easily have happened in that dangerous location.
The Program on Nexflix is a amazing look at these WWASP programn like ours….. the kids were awesome…saved themselves!
Midwest Academy was the link to the Luna Blanca and The SanJorge child prisons…
Roberto really helped end it by knowing the honest locals with the power to help and the ones to avoid if you didnt want to be floating in the estuary with a bullet in the back of the head! pretty spooky stuff! https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2024/03/04/the-program-review-netflix-cons-cults-kidnapping-documentary-academy-ivy-ridge
