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Burglars Active in the Mirador

Started by Roberto · Aug 4, 2015 · 71 replies
Roberto
If you own in the Mirador be alert. Lots of action right now. Watch for suspicious vehicles. Police are saying if you see strangers walking around the neighborhoods to call them.
Hobie Vern
We're at PDO we've got security ???
Darlene Sadusky
Roberto, do you have any specifics? We are absentee owners but coming down this weekend and was hoping for more detail.

Thanks
Roberto
I spoke with a resident in the Mirador who related some friends of his had two gents enter their home, while they were there. The man was beaten with a shovel. He's OK. At the Comandancia to report the event they met with a couple of other Mirador owners reporting burglaries. This withing the past 10 days or so.

I lived in the Mirador for 6 years and the burglaries were cyclical. During one cycle the neighbor's house was being burgled at night and another neighbor phoned the police but gave poor directions to the house being robbed. He was afraid of the burglars and did not want to be identified so he would not meet the police. I was sleeping and heard a noise in the living room, went out to face an officer with his pistol aimed at me 6 feet away. A friend from Kino was visiting and had left all the doors and gate unlocked. Cop found everything unlocked and wandered in thinking it was the location.


I was robbed tree times while I lived there. Last cycle when I lived there a guy got on the neighbor's roof and climbed onto the balcony of my rental apt. Neighbor heard him on his roof, thought it was a cat, looked out and the burglar was lounging on the balcony as if he lived there. Burglar went in while the resident was napping, took his vehicle keys and wallet off the night stand. That guy and a brother were working together and one got shot and killed by the police while breaking into a trailer on the Mirador beach. Some will remember that one.

There was a white van hauling out entire home loads at one time. There was a spotter who would call the van and they would strip the house in a few minutes, broad daylight acting as if they were supposed to be there. Neighbor got hit twice on a vacant property so we started a neighborhood patrol. I spotted the van in the street, stopped looking around. I jumped in the truck and chased the van for several miles while calling the neighbor to alert the police, cause his spanish is better. Finally gave up the chase but the van did not come back to the neighborhood.

Conventional wisdom is that the guys wandering the neighborhood, walking and on bicycles, looking in the trash are spotters who report empty homes with infrequent visitors. The spotters make a call and earn a fee. Some believe the police make a fee for a quick release if they catch them.

What to do? The usual stuff. Double key deadbolts and stout doors help. Hard to take big stuff out the window. I still keep a can of wasp and hornet fast discharge spray handy for intruders..
janice neal
Roberto said:
I spoke with a resident in the Mirador who related some friends of his had two gents enter their home, while they were there. The man was beaten with a shovel. He's OK. At the Comandancia to report the event they met with a couple of other Mirador owners reporting burglaries. This withing the past 10 days or so.

I lived in the Mirador for 6 years and the burglaries were cyclical. During one cycle the neighbor's house was being burgled at night and another neighbor phoned the police but gave poor directions to the house being robbed. He was afraid of the burglars and did not want to be identified so he would not meet the police. I was sleeping and heard a noise in the living room, went out to face an officer with his pistol aimed at me 6 feet away. A friend from Kino was visiting and had left all the doors and gate unlocked. Cop found everything unlocked and wandered in thinking it was the location.


I was robbed tree times while I lived there. Last cycle when I lived there a guy got on the neighbor's roof and climbed onto the balcony of my rental apt. Neighbor heard him on his roof, thought it was a cat, looked out and the burglar was lounging on the balcony as if he lived there. Burglar went in while the resident was napping, took his vehicle keys and wallet off the night stand. That guy and a brother were working together and one got shot and killed by the police while breaking into a trailer on the Mirador beach. Some will remember that one.

There was a white van hauling out entire home loads at one time. There was a spotter who would call the van and they would strip the house in a few minutes, broad daylight acting as if they were supposed to be there. Neighbor got hit twice on a vacant property so we started a neighborhood patrol. I spotted the van in the street, stopped looking around. I jumped in the truck and chased the van for several miles while calling the neighbor to alert the police, cause his spanish is better. Finally gave up the chase but the van did not come back to the neighborhood.

Conventional wisdom is that the guys wandering the neighborhood, walking and on bicycles, looking in the trash are spotters who report empty homes with infrequent visitors. The spotters make a call and earn a fee. Some believe the police make a fee for a quick release if they catch them.

What to do? The usual stuff. Double key deadbolts and stout doors help. Hard to take big stuff out the window. I still keep a can of wasp and hornet fast discharge spray handy for intruders..
janice neal
I live at #11 at Las Brisas on the beach. In the past month, I have had at least six persons come to my door. They ask for food, water, etc. Last week it was 1 am. The man asked for water. Then he lay down on the patio next door. I didn't call police because I was afraid he would retaliate. In the morning I went out and he was washing himself in the faucet on the other side of me. My maintenance man came and ordered him to leave. The police are now aware, and promised to keep watch as much as possible.
Roberto
You hate to be like that but if you give one time they tend to come back and send their friends. I send them over to the two fish ministry for food and water. Under no circumstances let them into your house. Most are OK but it only takes one.......
Roberto
Today , Thursday August 6 at 1:30 pm. Another burglary in the Mirador within the past hour. Guy got away. Home owner was in residence but apparently unmolested. Was prolly drunk !! Home 1 block away was burgled
Roberto
Three more, count em, 3 last night alone. Hope they get the goofballs soon.
GV Jack
Well, the cops better get after them in a hurry, because the Green Valley Desperado will be there next weekend and that will keep the gendarmes busy.

Once again, women, children and sheep have been warned.
mexicoruss
stay tuned more police blotter action coming
Roberto
Your snide remark makes me think this information should not be posted here.

If that is the sense of the forum I'll stop.
mexicoruss
Do what you want, post what you want....I do.
DiD
Roberto...I appreciate your updates since we have a place on the Mirador. Do you know if these recent burglaries have been on the beach or on the other streets? We are on the beach and I worry about a couple of older folks who live there full time.
Roberto
Thanks DID. I had just decided I would not post anymore. The burglaries have been all around, but closer to the beach than in the old neighborhoods. Yes, on the beach as well. Two more reported last night.

Some of the residents are patrolling and I understand that the police are responding to reports of people in the streets walking around.

Apparently one suspect was taken to the Commandancia and given the full treatment. No sure if they got a confession but he was back on the streets.
Last edited: Aug 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Hillbeartoe
Fine job Roberto.
I have tried to not wade into this but even at La Palapa, second week of July some renters had supposedly been flashy with their moolah and some dude followed them back. Somehow got to balcony and tried to burgle sleeping tenant.
My understanding is tenant bum rushed the burglar and went out the glass sliding door and over the rail together. Tenant got hurt but the burglar got totally f'd up.

1, I don't think people bringing up the troubles going on are intended to dis-wade people from visiting. If anything it makes people more aware and could change their behavior when they are visiting.
More aware more power to be safe.
2, Russ makes a valid point with everyone of these threads that this shit happens almost everywhere. Mesa is quiet but we have shit going on here all the freakin time. Mesa has a huge police presence and they don't stop anything. I see them in mass getting ready to raid homes for whatever reason every week.
But that doesn't mean that these things should not be posted here IMO.
There is a bigger picture down there that some would like to edit. If it's reliable info then make it known.
Last edited: Aug 10, 2015 at 8:29 AM
jerry
ok....the bottom line is Sonora is not a safe place to invest at this time.....
Kelney
Post away Roberto. Just because the 1% population has their head in the sand does not mean the 99% population does not appreciate hearing about what really goes on in the place we all love. Most of us see the good, bad and the ugly of RP and that is quite ok and that is how it should be. Just because we recognize and acknowledge the warts does not mean we diss the place. Every one on this forum is looking forward to the time they can head back to RP for their own reasons.
TICO-T
Kelney said:
Post away Roberto. Just because the 1% population has their head in the sand does not mean the 99% population does not appreciate hearing about what really goes on in the place we all love. Most of us see the good, bad and the ugly of RP and that is quite ok and that is how it should be. Just because we recognize and acknowledge the warts does not mean we diss the place. Every one on this forum is looking forward to the time they can head back to RP for their own reasons.

Kelney, your post is right on the money! Thank you!
mexicoruss
FYI I didnt get robbed today
mexicoruss
Oh wait maybe I did but my head was so deep in the sand I missed it
jerry
mexicoruss said:
FYI I didnt get robbed today

ha, note all the comments yesterday...polite all but calling you for trolling the crime issue.... in Sonoyta the new president is bringing hope but the police that were not crooks have quit,the chief is compromised and the cadets are already under huge pressure by cartel.Get that money ready because they are so broke the fines are keeping them afloat
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mexicoruss
jerry said:
ha, note all the comments yesterday...polite all but calling you for trolling the crime issue.... in Sonoyta the new president is bringing hope but the police that were not crooks have quit,the chief is compromised and the cadets are already under huge pressure by cartel.Get that money ready because they are so broke the fines are keeping them afloat

Blah blah blah. It is simply amazing how much you know.........trolling? not me I live here and have a vested interest. It cracks me up when people are surprised that they get robbed when they aren't home. It made me mad when I went to my house in Cottonwood AZ and all the windows were open and all of the kitchen appliances were missing......but this did not show up on some sort of Cottonwood police report warning possible tourist about coming to charming Cottonwood. Because shit happens that's all. Oh but it happens in Mexico and all of a sudden it is major news.........crap - all of it. Protect your belongings if you want to keep them.
dry heat
Of course bad things happen everywhere, just like good things. No where is safe to invest and everywhere is safe to invest (depends on countless factors). The reporting of good or bad news for Penasco should be expected on a blog. Similar to what would be found in a 'local' news section of a city. I would expect one to report what they see (especially crime). I would also expect sensationalism to come along (then again we are all adults and hopefully can decipher what is cheerleading and what is constant negativity.) This blog is no different than any news publication in the world. Just pick up your local newspaper and you will see that 80% of the info shared is negative (does not make it wrong, just makes it what it is). Those that want only good news shared will be upset when someone always reports bad news. Those that want bad news, will be upset with those that only want good news. Either way, report what is factual and let me decide how to take the info.
Hillbeartoe
Maybe the next Mermaid gathering should be a promotional effort geared towards public safety.
Russ could introduce everyone to the people that keep him safe and sound. Maybe these people can help the "other locals" that aren't privileged enough to live in gated communities or secured condos.
You know come up with citizen block watch programs etc. .
If the "other locals" are feeling secure in their neighborhoods then anyone reading these posts, thinking of visiting, should have no issues with visiting.
(About 50/50 Sarcastic, probably not a bad idea...)

For myself, knowing about possible water issues, gas prices, crooked police, trying to figure out which cartel is going to be in charge (hell who is in charge anyways), fish mongers with "special" scales for tourists, rules and regulations, which restaurants to try or if the ones you like are even open month to month, etc. etc. etc., my friends and family still keep going!

As a matter of fact we will be there again in 2 weeks for the 3rd time this summer and are already making plans for the September visit.

After meeting you Russ I have no desire to argue with you. And you living there I envy completely. But if these "negative" posts in these forums affected your business and your wife's business then I could see being so defensive.
I doubt that's the case.

If I felt that the subject matter was flat out driving people away from PP then I would be up in arms over what is said.

But being informed, truthfully informed, is the reason people come to this forum and is the responsibility of the members to provide. In My Opinion.

A Trolls a Trolls a Troll!
Hillbeartoe
dry heat said:
Of course bad things happen everywhere, just like good things. No where is safe to invest and everywhere is safe to invest (depends on countless factors). The reporting of good or bad news for Penasco should be expected on a blog. Similar to what would be found in a 'local' news section of a city. I would expect one to report what they see (especially crime). I would also expect sensationalism to come along (then again we are all adults and hopefully can decipher what is cheerleading and what is constant negativity.) This blog is no different than any news publication in the world. Just pick up your local newspaper and you will see that 80% of the info shared is negative (does not make it wrong, just makes it what it is). Those that want only good news shared will be upset when someone always reports bad news. Those that want bad news, will be upset with those that only want good news. Either way, report what is factual and let me decide how to take the info.

I wish I could like a reply more than just once.
Likex3...
mexicoruss
Well Gil.

I live on a dirt street not in a walled or secured neighborhood. I know my neighbors and they know me. The sense of community is strong and I appreciate it. Naomis business is doing great, my business is as well. I simply dislike negative BS just for the sake of being..............there is much more to life than just being a downer eve though I am having one of those days
mexicoruss
By the way Gil the next Mermaids Market is at the Sonoran Spa and Josh Kennedy and the Black moods are playing an acoustical set for us.........just sayin, thanks for promoting the Mermaids, it's an awesome event! Sept 5th
Hillbeartoe
mexicoruss said:
Well Gil.

I live on a dirt street not in a walled or secured neighborhood. I know my neighbors and they know me. The sense of community is strong and I appreciate it. Naomis business is doing great, my business is as well. I simply dislike negative BS just for the sake of being..............there is much more to life than just being a downer eve though I am having one of those days


Let me make sure to say I didn't assume you lived in a protected environment. And I tried to make sure that I get what you are saying. Compared with some individuals I did not get that you are completely disconnected from the "other locals". Quite the opposite. You are out and about mixing it up with people. I do not lump you in with the "locals" that others refer to.

I think the forums are reasonably balanced but maybe tends towards the negative more often if you only read one section of the forums. I know you and your comments would be missed here by the very people you are generally point/counter pointing with day in and day out.

I don't like arguing but I have to say, it's been pretty quiet here lately. Almost dead. I think it sucks that negative pops that bubble more often than not but it's valid.
Hillbeartoe
mexicoruss said:
By the way Gil the next Mermaids Market is at the Sonoran Spa and Josh Kennedy and the Black moods are playing an acoustical set for us.........just sayin, thanks for promoting the Mermaids, it's an awesome event! Sept 5th

Yeah I saw that, couldn't remember the day though. We will be there at the Spa Aug 22-25. Never stayed resort style!
mexicoruss
This forum has lost a lot of valuable info because of the extreme negativity that some feel is the way to be. I miss post by Mark, Char and others who find it more peaceful to just live their lives without the social media retards. I am leaning that way myself . Life is good, neighborhood quiet, tortillas hot and beer is cold. Ajua, I will take this anyday compared to up norte.
brokenwave
mexicoruss said:
This forum has lost a lot of valuable info because of the extreme negativity that some feel is the way to be. I miss post by Mark, Char and others who find it more peaceful to just live their lives without the social media retards. I am leaning that way myself . Life is good, neighborhood quiet, tortillas hot and beer is cold. Ajua, I will take this anyday compared to up norte.


Do miss some of the names from the past that Russ quoted and many others are not active here anymore, but that is the nature of most forums.

People are active while they are interested when something is new and life changes for many people.
You see that with all those people who make their 1st trip to RP, just love it and report it here.
And after 10 posts become invisible, people become bored after awhile and find other things to interest them.

Because I have a place in Cholla, I keep coming back because RP news can be somewhat limited.
While there is some good info reported here, as well as some WhatTheHeck posts when you read them.

I can tolerate all of that and the negative for those slivers of good info found here. Keep up the good work. :)
ben21
Indeed, the site is slow right now. Most likely because it's the worst time of year in RP and nobody is visiting, therefore no trip reports. I don't want anyone to leave the site, all perspectives are appreciated. Especially local residents.
mexicoruss
The ocean is calm, the water is warm and my personal company (Naomi) is great so it is a good time to be in RP
GV Jack
I don't care how hot it is, whether the water is calm or whatever.

If the Seat of Cortez is there, my friends are there, the beer is cold, the tacos are warm, I've never
had a bad time in Rocky Point. As this ballgame is drawing toward the final innings, I'll go there every chance I get.

I don't scare easy.
JimMcG
GV Jack said:
I don't care how hot it is, whether the water is calm or whatever.

If the Seat of Cortez is there, my friends are there, the beer is cold, the tacos are warm, I've never
had a bad time in Rocky Point. As this ballgame is drawing toward the final innings, I'll go there every chance I get.

I don't scare easy.


My sentiments exactly.
Hillbeartoe
ben21 said:
Indeed, the site is slow right now. Most likely because it's the worst time of year in RP and nobody is visiting, therefore no trip reports. I don't want anyone to leave the site, all perspectives are appreciated. Especially local residents.

Funny cause, the resorts consider it to be peak season with their pricing! lol. I am wondering what will even be open when we come down in a couple weeks. Seems the resorts are filled? I don't get it.
Estero
Hillbeartoe said:
Funny cause, the resorts consider it to be peak season with their pricing! lol. I am wondering what will even be open when we come down in a couple weeks. Seems the resorts are filled? I don't get it.

If your going to be hot you might as well be hot on the beach!
jerry
mexicoruss said:
Well Gil.

I live on a dirt street not in a walled or secured neighborhood. I know my neighbors and they know me. The sense of community is strong and I appreciate it. Naomis business is doing great, my business is as well. I simply dislike negative BS just for the sake of being..............there is much more to life than just being a downer eve though I am having one of those days

You need to watch True Detective season 2 on hbo ....it will cheer you up... On the subject been thanked by more than a handful of potential real estate marks ,gas station tip off victims,speed trap survivors ( badge 18 no longer works...he has left) Those guys that left were mostly politics related or religion..Stewart solved that nicely. They should come back I bet a buck Mark and AZ hate that stupid homeport too.
Hillbeartoe
jerry said:
You need to watch True Detective season 2 on hbo ....it will cheer you up... On the subject been thanked by more than a handful of potential real estate marks ,gas station tip off victims,speed trap survivors ( badge 18 no longer works...he has left) Those guys that left were mostly politics related or religion..Stewart solved that nicely. They should come back I bet a buck Mark and AZ hate that stupid homeport too.

Lol, sometimes I feel like I need a special monocle to make sense of some stuff you say.
I love you guys.
Hillbeartoe
Estero said:
If your going to be hot you might as well be hot on the beach!

Weathers looking to be 15 degrees lower than normal for this coming trip as well. Same as our July visit. Can't wait.
The day we leave it will be 105 with 56% humidity in Mesa. Will be 91 down there! WOOT.
Roberto
If anyone thinks I post about every isolated burglary, robbery, assault, abduction I know about here you are wrong. I think this series of burglaries needed some airing simply because of the frequency and the violence of a home invasion as well. It's complete bullshit to be whining about it. Why anyone would object to passing this along to interested people is beyond me. I know I want to know about things that happen here, positive and negative and someties it's damned difficult to find out stuff even living here.
brokenwave
Hillbeartoe said:
Weathers looking to be 15 degrees lower than normal for this coming trip as well. Same as our July visit. Can't wait.
The day we leave it will be 105 with 56% humidity in Mesa. Will be 91 down there! WOOT.


Enjoy the 91 degrees, not bad, but sorry, the 80+% humidity is the deal breaker for me. :eek:
Makes 90 feel like 110 with the humidity.:eek::eek: Since it cools down to only 85-87 with 85+% humidity at night,
there isn't much relief. But the beer is usually cold. :)
But I'm biased, I just came back from San Diego which was 75-78 with 50% humidity which was very pleasant.:cool: Even the Ocean temps were decent, 72ish.
October is what I'm waiting for to return to RP.:)
HB, You will enjoy it anyway.
MIRAMAR
We were down last weekend, and yes, the 93 degrees w/ humidity was hot, but sitting on the beach, or swimming, it was really beautiful. If you think this is a slow time, you should see the parking lot and pools at the Mayan- it's packed. California, Baja, New Mexico, Arizona, Sonora, Chihuahua, and Utah-they're all enjoying the Sea of Cortez.
JimMcG
This time of year is busy with middle class Mexicans heading to the beaches of the Sea of Cortes for summer vacation. There were far more Mexican plates than US when I was last down in both San Carlos and Penasco.
Hillbeartoe
JimMcG said:
This time of year is busy with middle class Mexicans heading to the beaches of the Sea of Cortes for summer vacation. There were far more Mexican plates than US when I was last down in both San Carlos and Penasco.

Yes when we were down on the July 25th weekend thats how is was too. So many rentals out it was cool.
Bob Oso
Roberto said:
If anyone thinks I post about every isolated burglary, robbery, assault, abduction I know about here you are wrong. I think this series of burglaries needed some airing simply because of the frequency and the violence of a home invasion as well. It's complete bullshit to be whining about it. Why anyone would object to passing this along to interested people is beyond me. I know I want to know about things that happen here, positive and negative and someties it's damned difficult to find out stuff even living here.


Speaking for myself Roberto I truly appreciate your input here, being it this recent rash of break-ins or pretty much any other s subject you comment on. Your spot-on, positive or negative I would like to think I'm still somewhat in the loop of what going on in RP, and thanks to you and people like you on this forum I can have from my home in the states. Again, thanks for your contribution to this forum.
brokenwave
Bob Oso said:
Speaking for myself Roberto I truly appreciate your input here, being it this recent rash of break-ins or pretty much any other s subject you comment on. Your spot-on, positive or negative I would like to think I'm still somewhat in the loop of what going on in RP, and thanks to you and people like you on this forum I can have from my home in the states. Again, thanks for your contribution to this forum.

+1 on this.
ben21
Has anyone here used NextDoor? It's basically a popular app/website where people talk about happenings in their specific neighborhood. I see this website as very similar. In my neighborhood on NextDoor, all kinds of things are discussed. Anything from new restaurants opening, lost pets, to mailboxes being broken into. Sound familiar? People on there don't hate the neighborhood they live in, they just like to participate in a forum to be aware of all happenings, good, bad, and in between.
Tedram
Bob Oso said:
Speaking for myself Roberto I truly appreciate your input here, being it this recent rash of break-ins or pretty much any other s subject you comment on. Your spot-on, positive or negative I would like to think I'm still somewhat in the loop of what going on in RP, and thanks to you and people like you on this forum I can have from my home in the states. Again, thanks for your contribution to this forum.

^^^^ This guy nailed it!
Thanks Roberto for the information, say it like it is, the media is always pushing an agenda. I miss the days when they just reported facts.
See you guys on Labor day! You cant scare me away.
Stuart
**I** value Sherlock's, errr, ahhh.. Roberto's input here. Always.

Viva Roberto!
playaperro
Roberto again, Heard sex shop was HELD UP yesterday, wonder what they took.
Roberto
Thanks for the support. :D Now let me tell you about who my neighbor is having an illicit affair with........................
Roberto
playaperro said:
Roberto again, Heard sex shop was HELD UP yesterday, wonder what they took.


What I heard was that business at the sex shop was limp so someone tried to jack it up but there was no happy ending !!
playaperro
Roberto said:
What I heard was that business at the sex shop was limp so someone tried to jack it up but there was no happy ending !!


It was actually a couple, 25ish or so slender women, thug looking guy. I'm pretty sure I've seen them hanging about town Roberto, you see pic?
Hillbeartoe
Roberto said:
Thanks for the support. :D Now let me tell you about who my neighbor is having an illicit affair with........................

Probably their cousin! Lol, they just don't know it.
Roberto
playaperro said:
It was actually a couple, 25ish or so slender women, thug looking guy. I'm pretty sure I've seen them hanging about town Roberto, you see pic?


Where is the pic??
playaperro
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Kenny
Roberto said:
Thanks for the support. :D Now let me tell you about who my neighbor is having an illicit affair with........................

Well if it's a women, you!:eek:
Hillbeartoe
Pretty clear photos , cant imagine if the put it in the paper that someone won't know. Hell a $50 reward would put their asses in jail in a couple minutes.
Roberto
Thanks for the Pics Dog. Looks like some handcuffs in that one display cabinet there !! Hmmm guess I need to check it out. Looks much bigger and cleaner. The outside is tatty looking.
Kenny
dry heat said:
Of course bad things happen everywhere, just like good things. No where is safe to invest and everywhere is safe to invest (depends on countless factors). The reporting of good or bad news for Penasco should be expected on a blog. Similar to what would be found in a 'local' news section of a city. I would expect one to report what they see (especially crime). I would also expect sensationalism to come along (then again we are all adults and hopefully can decipher what is cheerleading and what is constant negativity.) This blog is no different than any news publication in the world. Just pick up your local newspaper and you will see that 80% of the info shared is negative (does not make it wrong, just makes it what it is). Those that want only good news shared will be upset when someone always reports bad news. Those that want bad news, will be upset with those that only want good news. Either way, report what is factual and let me decide how to take the info.

You have to be like the modern MMA fighter for this forum, effective in all disciplines of the sport.
Kenny
Hillbeartoe said:
Maybe the next Mermaid gathering should be a promotional effort geared towards public safety.
Russ could introduce everyone to the people that keep him safe and sound. Maybe these people can help the "other locals" that aren't privileged enough to live in gated communities or secured condos.
You know come up with citizen block watch programs etc. .
If the "other locals" are feeling secure in their neighborhoods then anyone reading these posts, thinking of visiting, should have no issues with visiting.
(About 50/50 Sarcastic, probably not a bad idea...)

For myself, knowing about possible water issues, gas prices, crooked police, trying to figure out which cartel is going to be in charge (hell who is in charge anyways), fish mongers with "special" scales for tourists, rules and regulations, which restaurants to try or if the ones you like are even open month to month, etc. etc. etc., my friends and family still keep going!

As a matter of fact we will be there again in 2 weeks for the 3rd time this summer and are already making plans for the September visit.

After meeting you Russ I have no desire to argue with you. And you living there I envy completely. But if these "negative" posts in these forums affected your business and your wife's business then I could see being so defensive.
I doubt that's the case.

If I felt that the subject matter was flat out driving people away from PP then I would be up in arms over what is said.

But being informed, truthfully informed, is the reason people come to this forum and is the responsibility of the members to provide. In My Opinion.

A Trolls a Trolls a Troll!

If you knew the history of our forums you'd know how true some of your thoughts are Hill. There is a reason why our benefactor Tyler has no sponsors of any kind to censure truth about what's going on in RP and the surrounding areas... One of our forums was bought by a certain individual and his company and years worth of valuable information was deleted to suppress the truth about the real-estate market in RP and the unsavory tactics being used to fleece people, a lot of retirees, right before the downturn. As a whole, we have never been a friendly place for those who put the almighty dollar above all else; no matter who they are.
Last edited: Aug 13, 2015 at 4:44 AM
GV Jack
Absolutely Kenny. And any of you that don't want your almighty dollars, just send them my way.

Also, I'll take any non-almighty dollars you feel like discarding. I want all the money in the world because I need it.
apricot
Kenny said:
You have to be like the modern MMA fighter for this forum, effective in all disciplines of the sport.

So what's your point?
Hillbeartoe
Kenny said:
If you knew the history of our forums you'd know how true some of your thoughts are Hill. There is a reason why our benefactor Tyler has no sponsors of any kind to censure truth about what's going on in RP and the surrounding areas... One of our forums was bought by a certain individual and his company and years worth of valuable information was deleted to suppress the truth about the real-estate market in RP and the unsavory tactics being used to fleece people, a lot of retirees, right before the downturn. As a whole, we have never been a friendly place for those who put the almighty dollar above all else; no matter who they are.

You know me bud, I hope at the end of the day, that the forums inform people so that once they do decide to go visit or to go buy that they don't go into it blindly.
Go visit but, visit smart!
Go buy but, buy smart!
Kenny
apricot said:
So what's your point?

That was for the heat, a MMA fan.
Wood Spinner
I remember a story told about a break in in the PDO storage area. One of the sec. guards heard something going on after hours and called for help.
Not the police! Several of the people came in and found the thief. They held him down and smashed his hand. They then told him to tell all his friends that they do not call the police, they handle the problem themselves. They sent him on his way. Seems little problem since then. Sounds good to me.
Roberto
Things have apparently not slowed down in the Mirador. I heard about 2 over the past 2 days. The person who earlier was passing info on to me had been robbed left town so I have not been getting updates. The beachfront town homes up the beach from Mannys are getting hit hard. Friend left to walk down the beach, gone 20 minutes, left dogs inside the home but did not lock the door. Came back to find a slightly opened door on the beach side and ph0nes and computer gone. He told me a neighbor got burgled while napping with an unlocked door.

Incandescent globe lightbulbs are in high demand and often stolen there so you know what that means !!

These people are brassy and bold so if you are in the area and want to keep your stuff keep the door locked at all times.
Last edited: Aug 20, 2015 at 1:51 PM
brokenwave
Roberto-
Incandescent globe lightbulbs are in high demand and often stolen there so you know what that means !! ???

Enlighten us, please.:)
I assume something drug related, last time I was broken into, they took about 10 from the light fixtures and
all the CFL bulbs I had.
Hopefully the alarm and warning stickers deter them.
Roberto
They remove the metal from the glass and cook their drugs in the bulb.

Good if the alarm is monitored. They know to rush the control panel and clip all the wires which will turn off the alarm so it might sound for only a few seconds. The monitoring people are aware of the break in though if monitored. Happened to me one time and the alarm repair guy was at the house in a few minutes. I moved the control box to a less noticeable place after that.
brokenwave
That's why I found a couple of baseless bulb globes with some nasty looking stuff in them last time I was broken into.
Roberto, Thanks for explaining it.