playaperro
El Pirata
The neighbor said it didn’t have a roof windows doors toilets.
Had been abandoned for 10 years.
You know HOA’s have bylaws or rules
Anyways you got pic’s?
This doesn't help tourism!
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Had been abandoned for 10 years.
You know HOA’s have bylaws or rules
Anyways you got pic’s?
Old55
Guest
I think that is bull shit …seen photos…looked ok to me but this forum is so 1990s a text photo is too big….I can text it to you
playaperro
El Pirata
I believe a person using their real name backed up by another person saying the same You can post the pics on your Facebook for a bit. Till he surfaces with Rocky Point James real name I’m not buying.
Old55
Guest
Send me you phone # in the private message function…you should see them
playaperro
El Pirata
Ok I’m in las Conchas right now I will see if I can get an American phone.
playaperro
El Pirata
Thanks
Old55
Guest
No worries…I just posted one from above…on the fans site so you can see it ….the guy had already knocked the porches down ,began rewiring and plumbing and had all the roof coating stuff…..it looked ok inside…just had people in the picture so I didnt post it
playaperro
El Pirata
Sad to be living next to that in a beautiful beach area. The land without the house is worth more than the land with the house.
Don’t matter now it’s after the fact.
You know when O’farell came to town and did those bank trusts he left just as fast.
Don’t matter now it’s after the fact.
You know when O’farell came to town and did those bank trusts he left just as fast.
Old55
Guest
Isnt he in Phoenix now? I just dont see what they got out of knocking it down and if you had seen some of the owner built shitboxes we stripped out and reimaged in Tucson this place could be reworked….no garage,porch all around,maybe some indoor space turned into a screen room. Those houses our tour guide buddy reworked in Cholla are a great example….everything doesnt have to be perfect…a Monet is ok…right now this one is a picasso!….hell after 15 years 90% of the people I have met in my life are sick of their vacation house anyways….a lead weight ..
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playaperro
El Pirata
He can’t do anything to anyone now except Rocky Point agent, I have no clue why they plaster their mugs all over town so many of them it must work.
Well I’m done with this and I wish Ed the best with his venture.
Well I’m done with this and I wish Ed the best with his venture.
I was reading through the responses on the facebook post. Some very insightful comments mixed with a few with poor reading comprehension.... this is long winded. Sorry in advance.
Samuel keeps repeating the same things and ignoring any other information and doesn’t answer any questions...
He wasn’t involved in any of this but knows of it though his briothers. I never knew he existed until I read his response….that's probably why he keeps getting details wrong. The following is the correct information
I explained that the main road wasn't the only way to the property and you can get to the house without going past the sign. Hopefully that explains how the sign wasn’t helpful to me.
He says I turned down omar's offer. Not true. The last thing said was I needed to do research into the whole mess and explore my options, and omar hasn't returned a call or message since. I’ve reached out to work out the details of his offer but he wouldn’t come to the table.
The house was not abandoned construction, rather it had fallen into disrepair as the prior owners couldn't keep it up and hadn't visited in some time. It has been lived in previously.
It definitely was a fixer upper. I was a general contractor in arizona for many years. it's bones were good. It would have been refurbished for $16,000 in repairs. I already had the work started and a property manager to help with rentals to help supplement the cost of the house before access was denied. How fancy the house is has nothing to do with this....Anyone giving this discussion more than a cursory glance will see this is deflecting from real questions I asked and haven't been answered.
I asked what makes my home purchase invalid when it was processed like every other house on the beach in accordance with local and state law.
his response is that the house was ugly anyway. I do have pictures of the house, as well as measurements of everything. But it doesn’t matter how it looked.
Of all the incorrect details from Samuel Saenz, the most important one is he keeps repeating that I was told before hand. NOT TRUE. this is the actual sequence of events,
I found the house listed online for sale.
I took myself down the beach to check it out. Went back too look it over a second time.
Then contacted a licensed realtor and made an offer....closed about a month later.
SQ advisors in rocky point was The closing agent
not a single hiccup until until my contractor called to say he wasn't allowed back to the property were work was already started, and the contractor (who is a great guy, ...we agree on that) obliged the Saenz wishes and didn't go back and things stood at a deadlock until a few weeks ago when the house was demolished. I had heard that months ago, the roof was demoed but never saw the house to confirm
I dont know what realtors, public officials, notaries were told....if he says he told them, I cant dispute that. But it is not true to say I was warned. Seriously? who would even spend a dime on a property in Mexico that was locked in a dispute? The allegation isn't even logical.
Mr Saenz, if you are the rightful owner of the property and have the documentation that proves it, it seems the logical thing to do would be to meet up and prove it, and educate me about how "Mr. Ed bought the trust that was defeated"--sam saenz
It was defeated how? If I was sold a trust that was defeated in court, then I have a slam dunk case against all those involved in the sale. should be easy to prove. If you could do that, I would turn my attention to finding other remedies for my loss. I am trying to get to the bottom of this issue and find the truth Wherever it lies.
If the sellers, their realtor, or others had been told by you not to sell this property, that is information I need. If you have more facts, please share them.
People have made the comment that this negativity about RP is not helpful. It seems This land issue has been unresolved for 30 years, and the city has ignored pleas for help finding a solution. It may have started as just a venting about an ongoing problem, but the people of RP were all very helpful in their suggestions and ideas. I think it demonstrated the good nature of the people here, so it actually is a positive reflection on the area.
Ive had a few people PM me who are curious about the house…Im trying to include pictures….too big for this site. As much as I avoid social media in my life, I’ll go over to Facebook to put up a few pics.
Samuel keeps repeating the same things and ignoring any other information and doesn’t answer any questions...
He wasn’t involved in any of this but knows of it though his briothers. I never knew he existed until I read his response….that's probably why he keeps getting details wrong. The following is the correct information
I explained that the main road wasn't the only way to the property and you can get to the house without going past the sign. Hopefully that explains how the sign wasn’t helpful to me.
He says I turned down omar's offer. Not true. The last thing said was I needed to do research into the whole mess and explore my options, and omar hasn't returned a call or message since. I’ve reached out to work out the details of his offer but he wouldn’t come to the table.
The house was not abandoned construction, rather it had fallen into disrepair as the prior owners couldn't keep it up and hadn't visited in some time. It has been lived in previously.
It definitely was a fixer upper. I was a general contractor in arizona for many years. it's bones were good. It would have been refurbished for $16,000 in repairs. I already had the work started and a property manager to help with rentals to help supplement the cost of the house before access was denied. How fancy the house is has nothing to do with this....Anyone giving this discussion more than a cursory glance will see this is deflecting from real questions I asked and haven't been answered.
I asked what makes my home purchase invalid when it was processed like every other house on the beach in accordance with local and state law.
his response is that the house was ugly anyway. I do have pictures of the house, as well as measurements of everything. But it doesn’t matter how it looked.
Of all the incorrect details from Samuel Saenz, the most important one is he keeps repeating that I was told before hand. NOT TRUE. this is the actual sequence of events,
I found the house listed online for sale.
I took myself down the beach to check it out. Went back too look it over a second time.
Then contacted a licensed realtor and made an offer....closed about a month later.
SQ advisors in rocky point was The closing agent
not a single hiccup until until my contractor called to say he wasn't allowed back to the property were work was already started, and the contractor (who is a great guy, ...we agree on that) obliged the Saenz wishes and didn't go back and things stood at a deadlock until a few weeks ago when the house was demolished. I had heard that months ago, the roof was demoed but never saw the house to confirm
I dont know what realtors, public officials, notaries were told....if he says he told them, I cant dispute that. But it is not true to say I was warned. Seriously? who would even spend a dime on a property in Mexico that was locked in a dispute? The allegation isn't even logical.
Mr Saenz, if you are the rightful owner of the property and have the documentation that proves it, it seems the logical thing to do would be to meet up and prove it, and educate me about how "Mr. Ed bought the trust that was defeated"--sam saenz
It was defeated how? If I was sold a trust that was defeated in court, then I have a slam dunk case against all those involved in the sale. should be easy to prove. If you could do that, I would turn my attention to finding other remedies for my loss. I am trying to get to the bottom of this issue and find the truth Wherever it lies.
If the sellers, their realtor, or others had been told by you not to sell this property, that is information I need. If you have more facts, please share them.
People have made the comment that this negativity about RP is not helpful. It seems This land issue has been unresolved for 30 years, and the city has ignored pleas for help finding a solution. It may have started as just a venting about an ongoing problem, but the people of RP were all very helpful in their suggestions and ideas. I think it demonstrated the good nature of the people here, so it actually is a positive reflection on the area.
Ive had a few people PM me who are curious about the house…Im trying to include pictures….too big for this site. As much as I avoid social media in my life, I’ll go over to Facebook to put up a few pics.
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that is not true. It had roof, windows and doors and toilets. granted, they were old. New custom windows and doorshad already been ordered and paid for. If you go down the beach in Miramar, you see several abandoned houses…at this very moment, several of them are being recoated in stucco and having all windows replaced.
“Sad to be living next to that in a beautiful beach area. The land without the house is worth more than the land with the house.”
not true. You are basing that on bad information that the place was just ruins or structurally bad. If I could have had access to the house, the neighbors would be next to a nice building….it wasn’t going to stay like that. It had been that way for 10 years…no one cared until I started remodeling it.
Im not sure why people don’t understand the concept of remodeling….16-20k to make a house just as nice as the one next door is much cheaper than 280k to rebuild the same floor plan. the entire industry of flipping homes is based on this
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playaperro
El Pirata
You chose to circumvent the sign and virtual fence.
What if you would of pulled up and asked about the property and if it’s for sale. People get scammed on internet every day sorry amigo maybe try to get your money back but blaming owners is not getting you anywhere.
What if you would of pulled up and asked about the property and if it’s for sale. People get scammed on internet every day sorry amigo maybe try to get your money back but blaming owners is not getting you anywhere.
mexicoruss
Lovin it in RP!
The tour guy buddy is doing fine and the houses in Cholla are great and we are down to just one house available now. They are beautiful and the new owners love them!
I'm finding it hard to believe that you can't see Lobonegro has put forth a very convincing case. For anyone that has personally gone through the trust/ property process, he's done it all by the book. It has gone though all the proper channels, and signed off on by all the agencies need to complete the process. "What if's, internet scam, blaming others"? What TF are you talking about? Have your opinion, that's fine, but I'm sure the guy could get along without your useless viewpoint.
Old55
Guest
So it is coming back to me now.Didnt you defend Omar years ago …do you know him? No worries if true just would ad to the picture….Side note The owners and realtors have known for years ( heard it myself) owners were sitting on a time bomb and kept this thing as quiet as possible so the pool of buyers didn't find out….
Old55
Guest
In this case the owners notes what he was doing before Omar blocked him and tore off the roof….he did it! “Fb won’t let me post any more responses. I had a local contractor that had already ordered custom windows and doors, already demoed the porch, run new exterior water lines. Sealed the cistern, cut in plumbing in the garage for a toilet and shower. the bid also included 3 mini splits, re coating stucco cracks and painting. The bid was 16,000. I had paid 10,000 already. I was doing the electrical upgrade. “
playaperro
El Pirata
So I can read the sign and know what it says.
playaperro
El Pirata
30 day close.